Listening to KNBR...

by kvdp12 on Oct 8, 2008 4:51 PM PDT Comment 157 comments

Sooo, i was listening to a bunch of recent KNBR stuff where they were talking to Larry Baer, Krukow and Kuiper and they all kinda hinted at trades and possibly signing Sabathia. So i made this up. what we should do and what the team would look like.

Trade Matt Cain and Henry Sosa to the Milwaukee Brewers for Prince Fielder and J.J. Hardy. Both are arbitartion eligible, they need pitching and they have a young star SS that is blocked by Hardy.

Emmanuel Burriss will move to 2B where 'blocking' Frandsen shouldnt be that big of a deal.

Pablo Sandoval will move to 3B where he played an errorless 85 innings. Doesnt mean he'll be a gold glove winner, just means its possible he can handle himself there.

Sign CC Sabathia who is from the Bay Area, has expressed interest in playing close to where he grew up, and who is friends with Prince Fielder.

Sign Juan Cruz to be a set up man for the team.

Trade Randy Winn. Maybe for a minor league pitcher to replace Sosa.

Trade Dave Roberts for anyone, or release him.

GIANTS LINEUP

Burriss

Lewis

Sandoval

Fielder

Hardy

Molina

Rowand

Schierholtz

PITCHER

GIANTS PITCHING ROTATION

L..........CC Sabathia

R..........Tim Lincecum

L..........Jonathan Sanchez

L..........Barry Zito

R.........Brad Hennessey

CL Brian Wilson

SU Sergio Romo

SU Juan Cruz

MRP Alex Hinshaw

MRP Billy Sadler

MRP Geno Espinelli

LRP Kevin Corriea

GIANTS DEPTH CHART

..................................................................................................Rowand

..................................................................................................Lewis

...................................................................................................Velez

.......................Lewis.......................................................................................................................................Schierholtz

......................Bowker.....................................................................................................................................Bowker

.................................................Hardy.................................................................................Burriss

.................................................Burriss...............................................................................Frandsen

.............................................................................................................................................Denker

..............................................................................................................................................Velez

........Sandoval.......................................................................................................................................................Fielder

........Frandsen.......................................................................................................................................................Ishikawa

........Denker...........................................................................................................................................................Bowker

..................................................................................................Molina ..................................................................................................Sandoval

2 of the best pitchers in the game (Lincecum, Sabathia), 4 good relievers (Wilson, Romo, Cruz, Hinshaw), and 5 players who can hit homeruns (Fielder, Hardy, Molina, Sandoval, Rowand). 2009 NL West champs/ National League pennant/ World Champions. hahaha.

And instead of 'hijacking' a Giants baseball forum that is talking about Giants baseball, why not just NOT POST. Let those who wish to respond about whats written do so. If you wanna list 50 reasons why whats written is dumb, Ill at least respect that.

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they were talking to Larry Baer, Krukow and Kuiper and they all kinda hinted at trades and possibly signing Sabathia.

When you say “hinted”, what exactly were they saying to give you this impression? Do you recall any exact quotes?

by deuce deuce on Oct 8, 2008 5:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice Depth chart..........................................................

Pac Bell, SBC, AT&T, 2010=???

by jt_7241 on Oct 8, 2008 5:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I donno if you're sarcastic

but I like it

proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..

by Azmanz on Oct 8, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why trade Winn? Just for the sake of trading him? He is solid on offense and excellent on defense. Unless the Giants get someone decent for him in a trade, I’d rather keep him on the team.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
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by Natto on Oct 8, 2008 5:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If we’re trading for Fielder and Hardy then I would assume we’re going for it. Then keeping Winn makes the most sense.

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by oldjacket on Oct 8, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nate Schierholtz is why. The bigger question is why give up Cain AND Sosa if the Brewers are so desperate to unload their guys?

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Oct 8, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you want to win baseball games, Randy Winn is the better bet than Nate Schierholtz.

Travis Denker can hit a little. That's why I drive his bus. Not much about baseball here .

by oldjacket on Oct 8, 2008 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

winning in 2009

shouldn’t be our top priority. If we’re shooting toward 2010/11 I’d rather get Schierholtz some ABs sooner than later

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Oct 8, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, but . . .

If you’re trading for Fielder and Hardy, then you’re trying to win in 2009. You see where we’re going with this?

Travis Denker can hit a little. That's why I drive his bus. Not much about baseball here .

by oldjacket on Oct 8, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

“winning in 2009 shouldn’t be our top priority”

It should be if you want to keep a fanbase.
Sure, the unconditional fans like us will always exist, but we’re a small minority.

by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 11, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But I should also bring up the point...

Sabean or Magowan had clearly stated years ago that they never wanted to rebuild the way that the Indians did after their dynasty days. Where they went young for a few years. Their fanbase was just like “we’ll see you when you have a good team.”
Sabes and Magowan said they’d never do such a thing.
One year of “rebuilding” was probably all that they had in mind. Expect them to make a splash this offseason and do everything in their abilities to create a winning team.

by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 11, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You really expect Schierholtz to be better than Winn? Next year?

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Oct 8, 2008 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would attack this for being another “trade Cain” thread, but I admire the work put into the depth chart.

Travis Denker can hit a little. That's why I drive his bus. Not much about baseball here .

by oldjacket on Oct 8, 2008 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Oct 8, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

YESSSSSSS!!!

I’m shocked that nobody else has mentioned any of these ideas. I think we should do all these moves and maybe trade durham for sexson too.

Proud father of Eric Surcamp!

by The Thrill on Oct 8, 2008 5:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I got an idea… how about Benitez for Burrell?

by kingofthacove on Oct 9, 2008 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jason Schmidt for Ryan Howard is the way to go.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 9, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Feliz for Pujols, obv

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Oct 9, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Matt Williams for Jeff Kent

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 9, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

After this offseason I’m going to be really confused on opening day when Hardy and Fielder aren’t in our starting lineup.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Oct 8, 2008 5:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't Worry

Barry Zito will be starting and and everything will seem to be in it’s right place to you.

by giantsrainman on Oct 8, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

OMG!!!! ANOTHER FREAKING TRADE MATT CAIN THREAD

/head explodes

Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on Oct 8, 2008 6:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

ITS A TRAP!!

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Oct 8, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

:-(

Poor kitty….

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by WalrusMan on Oct 8, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And instead of ‘hijacking’ a Giants baseball forum that is talking about Giants baseball, why not just NOT POST.

Resistance is futile.

Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.

by thehavenot on Oct 8, 2008 6:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Highjack topic

Top 20 reasons why highjacking a topic is lame.

What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC

by jcb9 on Oct 8, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can’t think of any.

by chilibean_3 on Oct 8, 2008 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Earthquakes.

by WalrusMan on Oct 8, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't like hijacks..

because I’ll see there are 100 “new posts” and click to see that everyone is telling me what they had for breakfast.

proud father of the newly acquired Brandon Crawford..

by Azmanz on Oct 8, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Honey Nut Cheerios with a sliced up banana in it.

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Oct 8, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I had blueberry muffin bread slice thingies.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Oct 8, 2008 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t eat breakfast.

by Natto on Oct 8, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

sausage omelette with some tapatio on top.

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Oct 9, 2008 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

chorizo y huevos burrito con salsa fresca

Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Oct 9, 2008 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It seem there is a bakery here that sells just the muffin tops. Some one brought in a box and that is my breakfast. I can’t believe someone is actually doing this.

by chilibean_3 on Oct 9, 2008 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope Elaine is getting a cut of the profits.

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by SoFa King Mike on Oct 9, 2008 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I made a quesadilla.

What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC

by jcb9 on Oct 8, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Apple Strudel Pop Tarts. They suck, but some stupid person at work keeps eating all the ones in the vending machine until it gets to Apple Strudel again, and then if I want Pop Tarts, I have to get Apple Strudel. And then this jerk gets to cycle through the good flavors again until it gets to Apply Strudel and I want Pop Tarts again.

I would have had cereal, but I slept in until 15 minutes before I had to leave for work. Basically shower, dress, drive, Pop Tart at that point.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Oct 8, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

toast and peanut butter. don’t knock it before you try it, it’s really filling, which is what i look for in my breakfasts

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Oct 8, 2008 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

missed breakfast so I had an awkward in between lunch an dinner meal that I am going to call dunch

by HitorMisch on Oct 8, 2008 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

lunner.

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by WalrusMan on Oct 9, 2008 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’ve been known to base dinners around that.

by rotorueter on Oct 8, 2008 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

nice

I should try that sometime

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Oct 9, 2008 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Peanut Butter Toast is better when....

you add bacon, but then every thing is better with bacon

by Angry Dwarf on Oct 9, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You got it dude!

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by WalrusMan on Oct 9, 2008 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

sweet cheese pastry from Peet’s Coffee…

by tyrannoman on Oct 9, 2008 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can't eat breakfast

gives me butt pee…

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Oct 9, 2008 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Then don’t eat chicken for breakfast

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by SoFa King Mike on Oct 9, 2008 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

trust me, my friend

it is not limited to chicken, unfortunately.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Oct 9, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually..

I’d say it’s pretty concentrated near Beef. At least bean and beef.

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by WalrusMan on Oct 9, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Post Honey Bunches of Oat cereal and a peanut butter sandwich

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 9, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cup o’ coffee.

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Oct 9, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cup o' coffee

is all J.R. Phillips really deserved.

Ralph Barbieri, heal thyself.

by ThrillisGone22 on Oct 9, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope the Giants don’t go after and overpay a guy like Juan Cruz. I like Romo in the setup role. I’d rather mix and match with some veterans (Embree/Brocail) because I got sick and tired of our middle relievers crumbling (I am talking to you Sadler and Walker) – a proven veteran would at least provide some stability.

Also, Hardy and Fielder for Cain would be stupid for the Brewers. They can get pitching for a fraction of the cost. Fielder would be fun and so would Hardy but I think we are missing the point that even Neukom isn’t trying to contend realistically in ‘09 – of course they would never say that publicly – this team is being built for 2010. I don’t want to trade for a masher at 1B because he might block AnVil – I’d rather see the Giants go after Cantu or Atkins – guys who can play both corners and will cost less.

by JackoASU on Oct 8, 2008 6:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If you suggest Embree again I will murder you

Tentatively adopting Dan Ortmeier. And Boom Goes the Dynamite.

by Andy from DC on Oct 9, 2008 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I respect the depth chart

beyond that…. no

Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!

by j14 on Oct 8, 2008 6:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Sooo, i was listening to a bunch of recent KNBR stuff

That’s where you went wrong.

by chilibean_3 on Oct 8, 2008 6:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Burriss over Frandsen?

Huh?

Trading Cain for Fielder and Hardy? Not again…

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 8, 2008 6:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Oct 8, 2008 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

HI GUYS ITS AD

ADMIRAL AKBAR

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 8, 2008 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didnt see this one, i posted a variatiion above

I see the future, and it is Pablo

by CB30 on Oct 8, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

MATT CAIN TRADES MAKE ME REDDER THAN A CRAYON

by rotorueter on Oct 8, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

There’s – blinking repeatedly – too many of them…

Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.

by ResDog on Oct 8, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m kinda tired of trading Jonathan Sanchez, too.

Travis Denker can hit a little. That's why I drive his bus. Not much about baseball here .

by oldjacket on Oct 8, 2008 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know

We’ve traded him so many times already…

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 8, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah that depth chart is pretty neat...

But yeah other than that.

Also you could have used Paint. Probably would have been easier.

Barry Zito - Mildly half-OK! Sometimes.

by Revolution1 on Oct 8, 2008 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I do like that Pablo is placed in a class by himself.

by rightcenterfielder on Oct 8, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I shudder imagining any scenario that considers Velez a backup CF

Todd Jennings: If he's on the DL, he can't suck as much, right?

by Speedforthewin on Oct 8, 2008 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh god how did I miss that

Thats the stuff my nightmares are made of

Barry Zito - Mildly half-OK! Sometimes.

by Revolution1 on Oct 8, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That

And trading Matt Cain

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 8, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

There are many things my nightmares are made of.

Like going down the worlds longest escalator that changes direction randomly. Eugh.

Barry Zito - Mildly half-OK! Sometimes.

by Revolution1 on Oct 8, 2008 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, Ironically

I think the farther Velez has to run to field the ball, the better chance he has to let his speed overcome his judgment deficiencies.

So maybe CF wouldn’t be the worst after all.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 8, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm. That may be true...

But just to clarify…

Barry Zito - Mildly half-OK! Sometimes.

by Revolution1 on Oct 8, 2008 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Oct 8, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You are making me cry :(

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 8, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here

Have a laugh

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by SoFa King Mike on Oct 8, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah, that old chestnut.

by rotorueter on Oct 8, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

SUCCESS

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Oct 9, 2008 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He did end up running pretty far after the ball he let go over his head in Arizona

by Fresburg on Oct 8, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by groug on Oct 8, 2008 9:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

sup

Barry Zito - Mildly half-OK! Sometimes.

by Revolution1 on Oct 8, 2008 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ITS G

GROUG

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 8, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow. really?

Its nice to see that not EVERYONE on here was dick.

Baseball talk in a baseball forum?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?! no.

“Honey Nut Cheerios with a sliced up banana in it” mmmmmmm.

That is why we are all here, so lets talk about that.

No seriously. we are all on the same team here. We all wanna see the giants get better. You all obviously care about the team enough to where youve come to this forum to talk about the team, so why so upset when someone wants to TALK ABOUT THE TEAM?

I mean, its a forum. Its kinda the only thing you can do here. Unless… anyone need a date? singles?

I dont know gang. Ive been reading here for a while now. pretty new to writing on here. Just dont really understand the whole bashing on other people for talking about the team that the website is based on. In a forum no less, where all you really can do is talk. just dont get it. Is everyone really that bored to where theyd rather look at the oh-so humorous off topic pictures that people have laying around on their computer, that they post?

Or is everyone just confused. “God damnit… someones bringing up the Giants again on that Giants website. Fuck. Ok.. think, think. Got it.” (typing) ‘Highjack. What is your favorite flavor of vitamin water/gatorade. Im a tropical citrus vitamin water fan myself’.

by kvdp12 on Oct 9, 2008 2:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

We all like to TALK ABOUT THE TEAM. But before you make a FanPost, just take a minute and make sure that this exact same subject hasn’t been discussed a million times already. Cain for Fielder and/or Hardy was discussed in these FanPosts:

Similar deal with Sabathia:

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/10/6/629852/what-single-change-could-i
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/9/7/609626/now-and-then
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/9/5/608589/just-my-2-cents-on-next-ye
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/9/8/610247/cc-and-the-fodgers
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/8/28/603144/offseason-cc-zito-rollins
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/8/25/600920/cc-to-the-giants

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Oct 9, 2008 4:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow. Nice research.

How about a Crede thread? We haven’t had one of those in a while.

by Evan on Oct 9, 2008 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Velez sucks!

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by WalrusMan on Oct 9, 2008 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice!

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 9, 2008 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice!

I think it’s important to note that pretty much all of those posts were made in the last month and a half.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Oct 9, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

by timmeh on Oct 9, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I understand

its been talked about. But what else is there to talk about. I mean its post season, the giants are out of it. I mean Iphones, Delmon young, and the A’s future are some of the most recent topics on fanposts. Id personally rather talk about CC with you all. If YOU dont want to talk about, then you dont have to read what i wrote or comment. I mean, you have other things going on in your lives right, no ones forcing you to be on here.

I think its just got to the point where everyone is upset if someone wants to talk about something thats been talked about.

That was great research Cookyman, the only thing is in those listed links, the following hijacks took place:
Favorite Chips
What FM radio stations people listen to
Favorite position to play on the baseball diamond
What was your first car?
What are you reading right now
Worst uniform of all time
Favorite fast food
Favorite non-alcoholic drink
Most interesting thing you’ve ever found in your food
Best condiment ever
What people had for breakfast.

So do you like to TALK ABOUT THE TEAM?

I mean I consider myself a pretty big baseball nerd. Just look at the depth chart.

But I dont think I could ever be such a nerd to where I come to a baseball forum to NOT talk about baseball. I just dont get it. I couldnt wast my time like that. I know you guys are all legit die hard fans, but I dont understand actually spending time feeding into the most recent Hijack.

Im a pretty imature person. Love alot of dumb jokes, but even I looked down upon that after the second time I saw one.

If you dont like a post that someone wrote, you can always just stay away, you dont have to comment. think about it.

Just been seeing ALOT of hijacking on people who are here to talk about the team.

by kvdp12 on Oct 9, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The reason all of those topics you see were hijacked

Is because the topic of trading Cain for Fielder had already been beat to death before even those were posted. You are Months behind the curve on this one.

There was, a long time ago, a legitimate Cain for fielder Fanpost or three. The topic was discussed, analyzed, and retired.

Some thought it was a good idea, the others (correctly) thought it was poor. Some people even changed their mind.

But it has literally been brought up some umpteen times in the last few months, and there is no new information to inject into the discussion.

I understand your desire to talk about baseball, and trust me – everyone here shares it. We are about the biggest group of baseball nerds in existence.

But If you do want to do so, try bringing up a topic that has not been beat to death dozens of times before you got here.

If you think you have something new to bring to an old discussion, then post that. Saying “I’ve read the Cain for Fielder arguments, but I think that people are failing to consider _” will get you a lot farther than “hey guys, I’ve got an idea! Let’s trade Cain for Fielder!”.

The only reason this post did not get immediately and thoroughly hijacked is because you obviously put a lot of effort into thinking your POV through, which is a lot more than I can say for most of those other Cain for Fielder outbursts. You did bring some other angles to the conversation, and as a result got a little bit of positive feedback.

But the Cain v. Fielder debate has at this point elevated itself into the stupid fanpost hall of fame (Joining Crede, Cain Sucks, Etc), and anyone who invokes that as even part of their topic risks harsh knee jerk retribution.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 9, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't be talking trash about Crede

Your 2009 Giants 3B wouldn’t be too happy with such criticism!

Seriously though, his logic is flawed. If he’s going to invoke, “If you don’t like the topic, then don’t read it”, then we’ll happily invoke, “If you don’t like the hijack, then don’t read it.” You can look at the serious responses to the topic and respond to them if you like. However, you won’t find many, for the reasons FWF listed.

It’s a democracy here (as opposed to the dictatorship that Grant would lead you to believe), and if you’re upset that people don’t want to talk about it, then try to bring something new to the table. It’s like watching politics these days…every day you get pounded with “Obama sucks because __” or “McCain sucks because _”. Eventually you get tired of it and switch the channel.

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by UnleashTheGore on Oct 9, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Basically what FWF said, just a couple more things

its been talked about. But what else is there to talk about. I mean its post season, the giants are out of it. I mean Iphones, Delmon young, and the A’s future are some of the most recent topics on fanposts.

What’s wrong with talking about trading for Delmon Young?

I think its just got to the point where everyone is upset if someone wants to talk about something thats been talked about. (…) If you dont like a post that someone wrote, you can always just stay away, you dont have to comment. think about it.

I agree. But you also don’t have to post new FanPosts. If you know that everyone is sick of discussing a certain topic, why write a FanPost about it? We all love baseball, but I prefer to talk about books or music or whatever rather than explain to Sharksrog for the 5th time why I don’t think that it’s a good idea to trade Cain for Fielder.

But I dont think I could ever be such a nerd to where I come to a baseball forum to NOT talk about baseball. I just dont get it. I couldnt wast my time like that. I know you guys are all legit die hard fans, but I dont understand actually spending time feeding into the most recent Hijack.

And now you’re just insulting people for no reason.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Oct 9, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s also inaccurate to call anybody on the internet a nerd.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Oct 9, 2008 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude

You come into our domain and simultaneously talk down to us and tell us how we should spend our time in a community that we built.

That’s pretty arrogant, right there.

Look, if you feel that on this forum about Giants baseball there should be nothing but talking about Giants baseball, then this probably isn’t the place for you. We aren’t going to change on your account.

Personally, I’d kind of rather you found somewhere else unless you change your behavior a bit. Because I don’t particularly like you; at least, not with how you are acting right now.

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by thehavenot on Oct 9, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’ve been turning into one of the bigger jerkwads on this site lately, and even I’m not going to tell the established people on this site how they should act.

Seriously, a person’s first act on this website shouldn’t be to put up a fanpost. That’s just asking for a beating of the typed-out kind. But to make your first act be a fanpost where you re-hash an old idea, immediately berate the people on the site and try to tell them what NOT to do… Well, that’s just foolish behavior.

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by JRPhillips on Oct 9, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Easy big fella.

We here at the McC are a bit baseballed out, so yea we’re going to go into a bit of off topic stuff. I think it’s just inevitable, we’re really just waiting until the free agency period to pop up so we can see what other rosterbations we can create.

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by WalrusMan on Oct 9, 2008 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Unless… anyone need a date? singles?

Are you offering?

by chilibean_3 on Oct 9, 2008 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

there are other Giants blogs out there

leave if you don’t like how things roll here. and like cookyman said…before you berate people for hijacking, maybe you should take 2 minutes to see if this topic has been discussed at great length already.

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by UnleashTheGore on Oct 9, 2008 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tropical citrus vitamin water is awesome. Dragonfruit’s not bad, either.

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by Anticon23 on Oct 9, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yellow is by far the best

I like the XXX second best.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 9, 2008 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Acai FTW

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by SoFa King Mike on Oct 9, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn right

Actually all of them are good save for the strawberry kiwi and the lemon lime.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 9, 2008 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed, strawberry kiwi sucks.

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by Takimoto on Oct 9, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

That reminds me of all the shitty strawberry/kiwi Snapple iced tea I downed in high school

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by SoFa King Mike on Oct 9, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They have that in iced tea?

I thought that was just normal Snapple.

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by groug on Oct 9, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, I was thinking of Raspberry. I did drink strawberry/kiwi in “juice” form.

Either way, it’s the gateway drug to diabetes.

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by SoFa King Mike on Oct 9, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

by Natto on Oct 9, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

DIABEETUS

by chilibean_3 on Oct 9, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like the XXX second best.

I BET YOU DO! Hi-YO!

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by marcello on Oct 9, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

SOBE!

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by UnleashTheGore on Oct 9, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sobe Green Tea .

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by WalrusMan on Oct 9, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

YES!

I used to get that all the time whenever I went to cafes with my friend in Santa Cruz. Good times.

by Natto on Oct 9, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

really?

Why not just get it at the store too? I think the only Santa Cruz tradition I had with my friends was to stop at Lil Cesars and get a pizza for every 2 people going, then eat sand encrusted pizza when we got to the beach.

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by WalrusMan on Oct 9, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I should have added “on campus” to that.

by Natto on Oct 9, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

not a Pizza my Heart fan?

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by UnleashTheGore on Oct 10, 2008 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

$5 hot'n'ready large pizza fan

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by WalrusMan on Oct 10, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

the economic state has hit lil caesar's too

actually it’s almost 6 now w/ tax :(

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by UnleashTheGore on Oct 10, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dragonfruit yum.

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by WalrusMan on Oct 9, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm more of a Propel guy, myself

Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.

by thehavenot on Oct 9, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Have you noticed that most of the posters can disagree on things and live to tell about it the next day? You need to adopt that attitude.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 9, 2008 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

to be clear

most of us have no problem with this post. It is well thought out, presented well and addresses the topic in a way that hasn’t been done. As you can see, there was a lot of positive feedback on this topic. Silliness, well, that’s just what the McCoven are made of and you aren’t going to get rid of it completely. The problem a lot of us have is when a topic gets beat to the ground with consecutive posts that aren’t well thought out and are generally out of the realm of possibility. This is clearly not one of those. relax.

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by Speedforthewin on Oct 9, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea..

I’d say you only really get rid of the silliness in the McCoven perhaps when it’s right after the start of a bad losing streak. Then we’re just all too depressed to be silly.

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by WalrusMan on Oct 9, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We didn't hijack it that badly

But yeah this scenario has been done over and over and there really isn’t much to left to talk about. Let’s save the rosterbation until after the postseason when we may know a little more. Or until we are bored out of our minds in November.

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by Revolution1 on Oct 9, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn’t flavored water just another name for Kool-Aid?

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 9, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn’t flavored water just another name for ~~Kool-Aid~~ Gatorade?

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by UnleashTheGore on Oct 9, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gatorade is realtively recent. Kool-Aid has been around forever.

I wish I would have known people would pay so much for flavored vitamin water. I would have dropped a One-A-Day into a batch of Kool-Aid decades ago.

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 9, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gatorade has been around since 1965. Unless you’re really really old, so 43 years seems relatively recent.

by Natto on Oct 9, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am as old as Gatorade

Kool-Aid has been around since 1927

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 9, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought that flavored water was just another name for [flavor of water].

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Oct 9, 2008 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've heard this before...

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/10/6/629522/giants-attendance-2008#9253262

by Natto on Oct 9, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also, asking for no hijacks is a surefire way to get hijacked.

by Natto on Oct 9, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

especially by the mods

by timmeh on Oct 9, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

NO to CC

That deal could be just as bad as Zito’s. The guy is a breakdown waiting to happen, Zito for all his suckiness, at least has no signs of injury

Do you Wazzel?

by NeifiChicken on Oct 9, 2008 10:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

uh

Zito’s numbers were declining even before we signed him. CC just put up the best season of his career. What’s the sign of injury you speak of?

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by oldjacket on Oct 9, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

HE PITCHED GAMES ON SHORT REST.

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by WalrusMan on Oct 9, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's fat

Hey, where is E these days, anyway? Sure do miss that guy.

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by Skaldheim on Oct 9, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Call home, E.T.

(E Ticket).

by Moggeee on Oct 9, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hasn't been seen in a while...

I think I used my moderating powers once to look up and saw that he still logged on every so often, just doesn’t posts. I hope we get some of his rants this winter, I don’t know if we’ll be able to survive without it. Of course, he could be one who we’ve lost with the new site, along with Dr. B.

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by WalrusMan on Oct 9, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No more Peter Magowan to stimulate his wrath…

Catcher are base running. Hitters are offense.

by thehavenot on Oct 9, 2008 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And no one here can simulate his rant.

by Moggeee on Oct 10, 2008 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually

turns out E actually WAS Peter Magowan’s alter-ego. So, it would be silly for him to continue to post here.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN

by zenbitz on Oct 10, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

it ain't my money

The Giants should just sign CC and Pat Burrell, and trade Randy Winn to the Red Sox for Mike Lowell, and Nate Schierholtz to the Rays for Grant Balfour or Dan Wheeler.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 9, 2008 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

But his name is BALL FOUR

That’s worse than Tyler WALKER.

Why can’t we find a guy named Jim KNOWSWHERETHESTRIKEZONEIS

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 9, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, and we need to sign or trade for Johnny Playsthridbaseandhitsforpower.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 9, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Three Amgios

Teixiera, Burrell and Furcal are three FAs SF should kick the tires, due diligence and at the end of the day consider signing. If too expensive then take a pass and address the needs at the winter meetings.

by wilriv21 on Oct 9, 2008 4:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I can't tell if you're serious to be honest

With all the negativity towards Burrell, as well as Furcal (mostly brought by yours truly, admittedly), I can’t tell if you’re serious or if I just fell into the sarchasm…

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by UnleashTheGore on Oct 9, 2008 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

wilriv is serious business.

by Natto on Oct 9, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If the price is right

Seriously hope Sabean checks out these three players. Know Tex will be expensive but if $17M a season should consider. If can get Burrell on three year deal for decent monies should consider. Would offer Furcal an huge incentive laden deal. If he produces then he makes a ton of money, if not then less risk.

Both Tex and Burrell could hit clean-up and be the run producer necessary. Furcal would be an excellent leadoff hitter and SS needed.

by wilriv21 on Oct 9, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you want to pay $10+ million per year for a quicker Rich Aurilia? That’s what you’re getting with Furcal.

Teixiera, while a solid player, is not someone to build your lineup around. And with the kind of money he’ll demand, that’s what you’d be paying him for. Plus there’s no way he falls to the Giants—if the Angels don’t re-sign him, the Yanks surely will.

Burrell…I don’t know enough about to say anything, really.

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by UnleashTheGore on Oct 10, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do

Burrell is so good a left-fielder that the Philies regularly replaced him in LF for defensive purposes. In the 2008 season, he was taken out of the game in over 100 games, near the end of the game, I counted 102 but lost my count once or twice, close enough.

The only silver lining is that he was originally a 1B and perhaps he can be passable there if we put him there. However, in brief play his first season, he was below average there, both in fielding percentage and range factor per 9 innings.

But given his hitting, he’s going to want a huge contract; he’s made for an AL team.

Plus, he’s going to be 32 next season, probably at least 36 if he gets a 5 year contract, and he’s not going to get better at fielding, plus those last years are the prime years for decline, a risk for at least half of that contract, if not most.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Oct 10, 2008 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wanted Furcal until I found out he had the same back injury as Mark Kotsay.

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by oldjacket on Oct 9, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

and his career numbers

are pretty similar to Rich Aurilia’s…

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by UnleashTheGore on Oct 10, 2008 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m just thankful that we don’t have to read any more posts from GRM insisting the the Giants trade for A-ROD.

Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on Oct 9, 2008 5:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Wait about 30 days

It will happen

by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 9, 2008 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sandoval at 3B

Maybe the reason he didn’t make any errors at 3B was because he couldn’t reach the balls: his range factor is about 1 less than the league average for range factor. Now, perhaps that could be because of the Giants having two lefties in the rotation, plus Misch starting some, plus Lincecum striking out so many batters, yet Castillo, Aurilia, Rohlinger, McClain, even Gillaspie in limited play, had a range factor (per 9 innings) that was over 2, playing at 3B. And the ones I consider true 3B, Rohlinger and McClain, had the best of the group, 2.50 and 2.75, respectively, compared with league average of 2.60 (Sandoval had a 1.80). In fact, I recall Winn saying that McClain had a great glove at 3B when they were on a minor league together.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Oct 10, 2008 5:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs