Jed Lowrie, JT Snow, and some good ol' fashioned envy....
by Grant on Oct 7, 2008 11:55 AM PDT
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I understand why Carlton Fisk's home run was a big deal when it happened. Game Six, extra innings, walk-off home run, and all that. It must have been absolute mayhem. But the next day, the Red Sox lost the World Series when a reliever gave up a leadoff walk, a sacrifice, and a bloop single in the ninth inning. No championship. No joy in Beantown. They'd have to wait about 30 more years. Yet for those 30 years, we've all had to watch a decades-long loop of Fisk trying to wave the ball fair. In isolation, it was a great moment. In the context of the series, it just set up a deeper pain.
Even if the Red Sox lose the ALCS or World Series, Jed Lowrie's walk-off dribbler will always have a proper place in Boston lore. It won a playoff series. See, there's a hierarchy here, from greatest to lamest:
- Walk-off homer that vaults the Giants into the World Series (Bobby Thomson)
- Walk-off homer that wins a World Series (Bill Mazeroski, Joe Carter)
- Walk-off hit that wins a playoff series (Jed Lowrie, Kenny Lofton)
- Walk-off homer that wins a single game in an eventual series win (Kirk Gibson, Kirby Puckett)
- Walk-off homer that wins a single game in an eventual series loss (Carlton Fisk)
- Two pigeons mating in a camera well during a regular season game
- A fourth starter giving a decent-enough performance (5.2 IP, 3 ER) in NLDS game.
- Home run that temporarily ties a game for twelve minutes, though the team doesn't win the game or series (J.T. Snow)
Yet for some reason, I'm still watching replays of Snow raising his fist in the air. When I left that game, my heart had melted into my toenails. Something called Timo Perez did something, an old friend Darryl Hamiton stabbed us in the soul, and Barry Bonds was called out on strikes on a John Franco breaking ball that crossed the plate by Bonds's neck. I died a little inside, and the Mets won the next two games, and I died a little more inside. I take the offseason to think about the Giants' place in the universe's latrine, and when I come back in March, the replay of Snow's homer is everywhere.
Lowrie's single last night reminded me of just how silly it is to celebrate that home run. The Giants need a couple of new "signature playoff moments" for Mays Field, so we can push the danged Snow homer into the footnotes of Giants lore.
Dang, I still hate Timo Perez.
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I rarely think about Snow's HR
The all-time greatest moment in Mays Field history was Lofton’s hit that beat the Cardinals.
Man, I miss Kenny Lofton.
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 7, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Strangest, most inappropriate thing I've ever heard Jon Miller say
I’ve seen that play so many times now, and heard the Jon Miller call, in all its craziness. The year that Jack Buck and Daryl Kile both died, the Giants knock the Cards out of the playoffs, and Jon Miller is yells out, “The Cardinals are dead!”
Years later, I still cringe every time I think about that.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Oct 7, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jon Miller is yells out
Well there’s a massive fail of a sentence…
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Oct 7, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
Still, I can just imagine if it had been someone like Hawk Harrelson:
“The Cardinals are dead, literally AND figuratively!”
Anagram of "Giants pitcher Matt Cain" = TRAGIC MAN, ISN'T PATHETIC
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 7, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or more to the point “They gone!!”
A gamer does NOT wear a foam finger, a dork does.
by SFGuy on Oct 7, 2008 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I remember about that moment
I was watching the game on TV, but also had KNBR on in the background. After he said that, I had a similar reaction, thinking “of all the things you could say, you chose that?”
In the end, I knew it was pure emotion and only Giants fans would be hearing it. Plus, I was tired of hearing about the Cardinals after the constant Fox lovefest, topped off with that awkward montage at the end of their broadcast.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 7, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First thought: Noooooooo, he didn’t mean it like that.
Immediat second thought: …maybe he did.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 7, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew it sounded weird when I heard it
but forgot why. That’s actually sorta creepy
by bondslegend on Oct 7, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t even find a video of Snow’s HR online…
by kingofthacove on Oct 7, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You can never take away the memories...
but if you want to see them, you’ll have to pay MLB.com $89.95. But you get 14 free issues of Sports Illustrated!
No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.
by Kitspool on Oct 7, 2008 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah those fuckers auto bill you if you don’t cancel. Stupid SI
Tentatively adopting Dan Ortmeier. And Boom Goes the Dynamite.
by Andy from DC on Oct 7, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NEVER
opt for those “free” magazine offers. They suck
by bondslegend on Oct 7, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I tread on shaky ground by bringing this up, but I thought I was going to explode with joy when sucktacular Shawon Dunston hit that home run in the World Series.
by rotorueter on Oct 7, 2008 12:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess this wasn’t at Mays Field, though. Read fail.
by rotorueter on Oct 7, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here
I was thinking “That’s an awesome way to end a career”.
Then, Dusty went out to the mound to tell Ortiz they were canceling the rest of the Series and that everything after that point was pure exhibition.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 7, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn you to hell, Felix Rodriguez
Seriously. Look at our playoff misfortunes in 00, 02 and 03 and he’s right in the middle of it each time.
That’s why I’m dying for us to make the playoffs again – I wanna see how well we do without him around to fuck it all to hell.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 7, 2008 12:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From J.T. Snow’s homer — I can still hear Ted Robinson’s call: “High into the San Francisco night!” — to being one-hit by Bobby Jones in three excrutiating days. Man, that sucked.
No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.
by Kitspool on Oct 7, 2008 12:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
FINALLY
i’ve been bitching about that homer since they used it in that ad campaign, where they play that song “downtown” by petula clark over the homerun. Nevermind that we didn’t even win the series, but we didn’t even win the fooking game. Ridiculous. I do not need to see that hr.
"They can trade me," Bonds said. "I don't think they will, though. It's not like I want to be traded, man. I'm a Giant. I'm stuck here till the end."
by GameSix on Oct 7, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was another year that broke my heart. Bobby Jones, Benny Agbayani and Timo Perez were not worthy. I imagine there are a lot of Cubs fans right now who feel the disappointment I felf in October 2000.
by out machine on Oct 7, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Those are the type of players that win playoff games. It’s more likely going to be a Jed Lowrie then a David Ortiz or a Shane Victorino then a Ryan Howard.
A gamer does NOT wear a foam finger, a dork does.
by SFGuy on Oct 7, 2008 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, it was Timo Perez? All these years, I’ve been remembering it as Benny Agbayani. Am I crazy?
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 7, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They all played a part
Agbayani hit the walkoff in the 13th in Game 3.
Perez just came out of nowhere to get 5 hits and 3 RBI for the series.
Even Edgardo screwed us over with 5 hits, 5 RBI, and a game-tying double off Nen in Game 3.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 7, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but Edgardo was actually good then.
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by groug on Oct 7, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And 40 lbs. lighter.
Patron saint of pesky hitters.
by younghutch on Oct 7, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And 8 years younger.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
How is my adopted son almost twice as old as I am? Nevermind...Go Omar! Warm the Bench!
by WalrusMan on Oct 7, 2008 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, good to hear I’m not imagining things.
Agbayani-related side story: I once knew a Mets fan, and also general jackass, who once went on a rant about the Mets front office was so stupid because they brought it worthless players like Raul Mondesi and let great players like Agbayani go. He repeatedly referred to them signing Raul Mondesi. When I pointed out Mondesi had never played for the Mets, it turned out he meant Roberto Alomar. Apparently, it was a “typo.”
I don’t know what’s sadder: that he fervently believed that Benny Agbayani was a better player than Roberto Alomar, or that he couldn’t tell the difference between Raul Mondesi and Roberto Alomar, even though one of them was playing for his team at the time.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 7, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will predict a future great Mays field playoff moment:
Giants vs. Dodgers, game 7 NLCS. Top of the 9th, scoreless tie. Bases loaded, 0 outs. Wilson on the mound facing Manny Fucking Ramirez (MFR enjoying a robust .890 BA against Wilson). Wilson mows down MFR with 3 fastballs right down the pipe, swings and misses all.
Bottom of the 9th: That shithead Saito on the mound for LA. Burriss on 1st thanks to a Kent error. Steals 2nd. Takes 3rd on passed ball (say it with me: “Suck it, Russell Martin”). Stays at 3rd on Velez’ weak popup to 1B (why is he still here?).
Then,
Burriss steals home to win the NLCS for the Giants. Tommy Lasorda bursts into greasy flames in the stands.
Patron saint of pesky hitters.
by younghutch on Oct 7, 2008 2:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
By the time the Giants are good enough to be in that position, Tommy Lasorda will be dead. Manny Ramirez would of been retired for 10 years and Emmanuel Burris is hitting .300 for the NY Mets. Jeff Kent has been retired for 15 years.
A gamer does NOT wear a foam finger, a dork does.
by SFGuy on Oct 7, 2008 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
While this thread is about context...
the feeling those in attendence shared when it happened,
JT’s homer off Benitez IMO is still the best moment in our
park’s young history.
Prove me wrong oughtNine Giants.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Oct 7, 2008 3:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Two Pigeons Mating in a Camera Well
I’m a little confused here. Is the “camera well” the place where they have multiple cameras and the pigeons are mating in there?
Or is it two pigeons mating in a “camera” and doing it and doing it and doing it “well”? I represent queens she was raised out in Brooklyn,
by hammystyle on Oct 7, 2008 3:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
doin it an' doin it an' doin it well.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Oct 7, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that reminds me of a (not very funny) joke
how many flies does it take to screw in a light bulb?
2, but I don’t know how they got in there.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Oct 7, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Retirement
Walk-off hit that wins a playoff series (Jed Lowrie, Kenny Lofton)
I really think we should retire the phrase “Walk-off hit.”
I wasn’t even a big fan of the use of “Walk-off homer” when it came in vogue, but “Walk-off hit” is ridiculous.
Ralph Barbieri, heal thyself.
by ThrillisGone22 on Oct 7, 2008 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I never got the backlash to “walk-off”.
“Walk-off hit”
vs.
“Hit that a team gets in the last half-inning of a game that leads the home team to victory.”
Someone coined a phrase. It filled a word gap. It didn’t replace a better, older word. I don’t get the hate.
by Grant on Oct 7, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suck-up
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by groug on Oct 7, 2008 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm..
discussion. If a username is lowercase for the first letter, and you start a sentence with it, do you capitalize the word? I see you didn’t with groug.
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by WalrusMan on Oct 9, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I briefly thought about this
I figured I’d keep it lowercase since that’s the way he writes his name.
by Natto on Oct 9, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that’s what they do. They get the hit, and then they walk off the field. Whether it’s a home run, or a Bengie Molina infield single.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Oct 7, 2008 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bengie Molina single...
…I believe qualifies as a walk-on hit.
Scott McClain: Great story, no place on the 2009 Giants.
by EliminateMe on Oct 8, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In case you didnt get enough Frank Caliendo, he is featured in a dugout episode. Pretty funny, especially the end
I see the future, and it is Pablo
by CB30 on Oct 7, 2008 6:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
J.T. Snow
Ugh. That was the first game where I couldn’t get out of bed the next morning. Just skipped all of my classes that day. I watched that game alone in my tiny apartment and when J.T. hit the bomb I jumped up and down and immediately called my family, none of which were Giants fans and none of which were even watching the game. That took a little joy out of it but not as much as the next inning did. Little did I know that would only be one of numerous gut-wrenching moments to be experienced over the next four years.
by saveuszito on Oct 8, 2008 9:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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