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Your 2008 Giants: Playoff Edition

This is a fantasy thread of sorts. In our own minds, we’re all great G.M.’s. Like many of you, as a Giants fan, I spend thankless hours tooling and retooling the Giants. It’s an imperfect science. I make roster tweaks. In reality they go unrequited. So a couple weeks later I take the roster at face value and start the rebuild all over again. Well, in my infinite boredom with no team for which to root at the outset of this year’s postseason, I got to thinking. What if all the best case scenarios of my wishful G.M. thinking of years passed had panned out? What would the 2008 Giants have to consist of to be a playoff-caliber team?

So I invite everyone to play along. The parameters for my team are as follows: 1) everyone on the team is someone that could have been acquired. 2) Over past years I had a real-time scenario to acquire each player. 3) There are no overly ridiculous chemistries in the financial or personality departments (no cost-prohibitive combos like Soriano, Beltran, and Guerrero … no impossible clubhouse mixes like Mesa and Omar). 4) Taking the draft curve into consideration, I have taken liberties to add or subtract actual draft picks to adjust for where a better Giants team would have selected over previous drafts.

Those are simply my personal parameters, because if I don’t keep this thing real, I lose sleep at night. I’m sure some of you understand. Please employ your own parameters, rules, gravity, etc. in making your World Series-bound 2008 Giants team. And, please feel free to bag on my team all you want.

So without further pomp and happenstance, I give you MY … ahem … I mean YOUR 2008 World Series Champion Giants:

Lineup:

RF – Randy Winn (would have traded for him with Tampa before ’03)

2B – Craig Counsell (signed before ’07 to platoon with Kevin Frandsen)

CF – Carlos Beltran (one of two big free agent signing before ’05)

1B – Derrek Lee (acquired from Florida before ’04)

LF – Raul Ibanez (acquired for Nate Schieholtz before ’08 trade deadline)

SS – Orlando Cabrera (second big free agent signing before ’05)

3B – Pablo Sandoval (called up during ’08 for injury-plagued Bard)

C – Jason Kendall (signed before ’08 season after retirement of Doug Mirabelli)

Bench:

IF – Rich Aurilia (signed before ’08 to platoon at 3B with Counsell)

IF – Emmanuel Burriss (eventually called up and excelled after Frandsen injury)

OF – Fred Lewis (good starter for first half of ’08, made way for Ibanez acquisition)

OF – Jose Cruz Jr. (resigned before ’08 for defensive purposes)

C – Josh Bard (acquired before ’07 season)

Rotation:

RH – Tim Lincecum

LH – Barry Zito

RH – Matt Cain

LH – Randy Wolf (acquired at ’08 deadline to strengthen rotation)

LH – Jonathan Sanchez

Bullpen:

CL – Brian Wilson (started ‘08 as setup man, but took over closer with Aardsma injury)

RH – Ryan Madson (acquired before ’07)

LH – Jeremy Affeldt (signed before ’08)

RH – Doug Brocail (signed before ’08)

RH – Josh Fields (drafted in ’08, and was fast-tracked to solve Oscar Villareal debacle)

LH – Alex Hinshaw (called up in ’08 and thrived)

RH – Kevin Correia (started ’08 in rotation, valuable bullpen add after returning from DL)

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Kind of sad that your imaginary team has Jason Kendall and Craig Counsell as starting players, and that Zito remains.

by rotorueter on Oct 5, 2008 10:42 AM PDT   0 recs

this

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Oct 5, 2008 12:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My favorite part was “the Oscar Villareal debacle.” ’Cuz, you know, we have to have some way to keep track of the various debacles.

your 2008 SF Giants: this isn’t totally insane, just really stupid

by Lyle on Oct 6, 2008 5:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yep

I highly doubt this would be anything close to a world series team.

Less arm, more talk. Raisingcain is a GAMER.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa

by raisingcain on Oct 5, 2008 6:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Fantasy/Mock Roster/Mock Draft/Mock Trade Thread...

Sorry, but you’re not fooling me…it looks like every other one out there. I’ll pass.

Omar...I'm done with you. Hello Darren Ford! Come to papa.

by PacBellBoozer on Oct 5, 2008 10:42 AM PDT   0 recs

I hate the Dodgers, I hate the Angels, I hate the Red Sox, and I can’t root for an expansion team like the Rays to go to the World Series. I have personal reasons for hating on the Brewers big time and hoping their team completely falls apart.

This playoff series, I’m a HUGE Phillies fan.

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Oct 5, 2008 10:47 AM PDT   0 recs

Every team was an expansion team once, and it’s been a decade.

Plus, they didn’t get there by signing Curt Schilling and Randy Johnson, so that’s cool with me.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Oct 5, 2008 11:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I’m not saying you don’t have your reasons, nor that those reasons are invalid, just that I feel kindly toward the Rays.

At this point, they’re very nearly the only interesting left for me in the playoffs.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Oct 5, 2008 11:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree.
Rays: definitely. Spunky group of kids, plus a couple of old men.
Dogs: GRRRRR. Usually I feel sorry for the Cubs when they lose, but the mere mention of the Cubs right now pisses me off.
Angels: GRRRRR, just a little less than the Dogs.
White Sox: they have Pierzynski. Come on, I can’t cheer for any team with him on it.
Red Sox: they won a few years ago.
Phillies: Eh, all right. If Tampa doesn’t go, then Philadelphia, I guess.

The Johnnie LeMaster Fan Club vice-president. E6 Forever!

by Van Smack on Oct 5, 2008 5:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Rays (and Red Sox, I have to be fair here) are the picture of how a baseball franchise should be run. I like that.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 5, 2008 10:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think it’s hard to root against the Rays. If you are a fan of scouting and development (which it seems like everybody around here espouses to be) the Rays are a great example of scouting and development done right.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Oct 5, 2008 5:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

True

It’s not that I hate the Rays, I just can’t wrap my head around rooting for a team with 10 years of history. And I agree with Baron that the Red Sox are also a picture of how a baseball team SHOULD be run. It basically breaks down like this:

- Cubs: Swept. I won’t discuss.
- Dodgers: Obvious hatred
- Brewers: Long story, but I’ve now got a massive anti-Brewers bias
- Phillies: No reason for me to dislike them. Plus they have Pedro, and I’ll root for him.
- Angels: I’m not discussing my animosity here, I’m sure y’all have a similar hate for them
- Red Sox: Hate their fans and the media always getting in such a lather over them
- Rays: I can’t root for a team with 10 years of history when my franchise hasn’t won a World Series since they moved to San Francisco. Same reason I didn’t root for the Rockies last year. And I just can’t imagine rooting for a team whose fanbase is all of 300 people, so the thought of rewarding Tampa Bay for never supporting their team makes me sick.
White Sox: AJ. No rooty.

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Oct 6, 2008 12:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Care to elaborate on the anti-Brewers bias?

It might be a fun story, like how I came into my Brewers fandom.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 6, 2008 8:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I had a boss who was a total douchenozzle, and as useless as they come. He’s now an exec with the Brewers.

I guess it’s not that long of a story. But if they win a World Series while he’s working there, I’ll be a little irritated.

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Oct 7, 2008 10:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Understandable.

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 7, 2008 12:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't understand

Where’s the Matt Cain trade proposal?

Greetings, Marklar! I am Marklar! This is Marklar.

by marklar on Oct 5, 2008 11:28 AM PDT   0 recs

Matt Cain for Randy Wolf

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
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by Natto on Oct 5, 2008 11:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It’s at the top of the FanPosts.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Oct 5, 2008 1:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

what’s the payroll of that team?? How do you reconcile that payroll with the fact that Barry Bonds was still there for most of your moves?? With that kind of payroll you had better also assume that the Yankees and Mets had folded and the Giants had moved their franchise back to New York.

Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment

by rxmeister on Oct 6, 2008 6:32 AM PDT   0 recs

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