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Cano

Buster Olney reported that every team that needed a second baseman has contacted the Yankees about Cano.  Most of you may think that Manny is the solution at 2nd, but I would rather see his range at short and put Cano at second.  If you give him a pass on him April numbers, he hit .297 for the season.  Ya down form the .330 he usually sits at, but still really good.

Here is the proposal you will all hate...

Cano for Sanchez and Sandoval.

Sanchez is good enough, but Cano could be a HOF player, and Sandoval is a few years from not having a spot on our team anyways with Connor, Buster, and Angel taking over the only spots he can play. 

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I would also like to take this opportunity to mention that I drink beer because I don’t trust the water supply.

by Evan on Oct 3, 2008 8:34 AM PDT   0 recs

Absolutely effing not.

I wouldn’t do Cano for either of them straight up.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Oct 3, 2008 8:36 AM PDT   0 recs

Straight up now tell me
Do you really want to lose Pablo forever oh oh oh

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 8:37 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pablo’s made for the hit and run

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Oct 3, 2008 8:40 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hell No..

to Cano for Kung Fu Panda. If I’m going to sit through two more years of mediocrity, I at least want some one exciting to watch besides Timmy.

My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.

by nvsfg on Oct 3, 2008 10:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

…or is he a page in our history?

by rotorueter on Oct 3, 2008 11:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

say no to kano

Rafael Rodriguez: More tools than Home Depot.

by BrianBokake on Oct 3, 2008 3:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Robbie Cano.

I worry about guys like Cano who need to hit .320+ to be valuable. He was awesome defensively at 2B last year (+17 by Dewan) but this year he was the exact opposite (-16).

I like Sandoval too much to trade for him, even though in the past, Cano has been a pretty good player. From 2005-2007 his BABIP was .363 and .331, this year it was .286. We know that hitters can influence their BABIP more than their pitching counterparts, but which one is the real Cano?

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 8:36 AM PDT   0 recs

Also, before anyone points it out, his LD% suggests that he was a little unlucky this year. His xBABIP is closer to his career levels.

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 8:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Tell us how you really feel!

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Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 8:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Cannot

Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil

by SoFa King Mike on Oct 3, 2008 10:41 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Computer says , " Nnaahh."

We have to have like 6 possible second baseman candidates for the next 4 years already. Left side of the infield please.

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

by daveinexile on Oct 3, 2008 8:47 AM PDT   0 recs

Seriously?

Jesus…

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 3, 2008 8:49 AM PDT   0 recs

Now that’s a guy I’d love to see playing 2B for us. I bet Jesus can really pick it!

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My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 8:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And who wouldn't want

a guy who could instantly make booze out of water!?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Oct 3, 2008 9:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That’s great news for Goofus, Groug, Evan, Natto, Xanthan, and WalrusMan.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Oct 3, 2008 9:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That’s why I drink so much beer!

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Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 9:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You forgot the one that would be most grateful; PBB !

My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.

by nvsfg on Oct 3, 2008 10:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, But

I was referring to this shtick.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Oct 3, 2008 11:13 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh....

/ slaps forehead in stupid delayed recognition moment

My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.

by nvsfg on Oct 3, 2008 2:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

OK, before anyone makes that joke for the 206th time

No, xanthan did not mean Jesus Alou.

..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.

by Cookyman on Oct 3, 2008 9:04 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

pretty sure

Jesus wouldn’t pee on his own hands.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Oct 3, 2008 9:34 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He plays like he’s got a hole in his glove

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Oct 4, 2008 9:57 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I might do a Sanchez and Sosa deal. Yankees would want more though.

Oh and…

I am Cameron Wood and this is my son and business partner CW Culberson.

by camwoody on Oct 3, 2008 8:51 AM PDT   0 recs

I've got an idea

How about we trade for a position other than the one where we have the most candidates.

Trading for a 2b is like trading for a CF, C, or lefty hitting platoon only 1b on this team.

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 3, 2008 8:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

or big headed manager.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Oct 3, 2008 10:46 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Buster Olney reported that every team that needed a second baseman has contacted the Yankees about Cano.

I like Cano a lot. But think about it — if every team wants him, then you’re essentially in an auction. You’re going to have to outbid everyone. That’s no way to build a team. That’s how you end up paying $126 million to Barry Zito.

Far better to find a talented player everyone is down on, as the Reds did with Brandon Phillips three years ago.

by Evan on Oct 3, 2008 8:54 AM PDT   0 recs

Have you considered

Trading Sanchez for Phillips? I think this idea has merit!

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 3, 2008 8:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So you’re saying it’s likely that Sabean will acquire Cano this off-season, then.

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Oct 3, 2008 8:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, but it will be Magowan’s fault.

by Evan on Oct 3, 2008 8:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

lol.

#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 9:00 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Don’t forget that Zito “turned down an offer for 15 million more” to go with the Giants

by Fresburg on Oct 3, 2008 10:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Perhaps.

But Cano has had a bad year, both offensively, AND defensively. There have been some questions on his attitude / makeup. If you want to buy low, if you believe that he can rebound from this season, now is probably the time to do so.

Just because teams have enquired about him doesn’t necessarily mean that they are willing to give much for him.

Sure, it’s better for a team to try to get a Brandon Phillips, or an Alexei Ramirez.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Oct 3, 2008 10:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd think about Sanchez

but not Sandoval

And my reasons for thinking about Sanchez for Cano has more to do with how I think about Sanchez than how I think about Cano

by NeifiChicken on Oct 3, 2008 9:22 AM PDT   0 recs

Is this a Yankee fan trolling?

"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."

by i did my job on Oct 3, 2008 9:28 AM PDT   0 recs

Honestly!!!

So instead of just a one-for-one trade, you propose we trade MORE of our above average talent for a smaller return.

That’s so brilliant, I might just NOT swear at you in this post.

It’s simple… We’re not a great team right now. If the Giants are going to make any trades this offseason that cost them even one of their above average players, they should be getting younger players in return, and more of them. The other team needs to want what we’ve got more than vice versa. Anything else is stupid.

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Oct 3, 2008 9:28 AM PDT   0 recs

Franny for 2b

and Pablito for 3b

by wilriv21 on Oct 3, 2008 9:35 AM PDT   0 recs

Cano was benched for a couple of days by Girardi in September for playing like a dog. I wouldn’t say no to a deal for him, because he’s better than anyone we have in that spot, but I wouldn’t trade either of the two you mentioned, let alone both of them. We all know the Yankees need a centerfielder and more gamers on their team. The player we should give you for Cano is obvious.

Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment

by rxmeister on Oct 3, 2008 9:40 AM PDT   0 recs

Rowand and Winn for Cano?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Oct 3, 2008 10:14 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Aside from everything say above, it’s my impression that most folks here prefer Burriss at shortstop over second base.

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by jcb9 on Oct 3, 2008 10:00 AM PDT   0 recs

Yeah, that’s the part that irked me. I hate when people who have no clue what’s going on, come in and tell us how we’re all thinking something.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Oct 3, 2008 10:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

IAWTC

Perhaps the poster was confusing the groupthink with the grougthink.

Scott McClain: Great story, no place on the 2009 Giants.

by EliminateMe on Oct 3, 2008 10:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And for his trouble, we’re dosing him with groupstink.

by Moggeee on Oct 3, 2008 10:40 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i think what?

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Oct 3, 2008 11:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Deep thoughts

I think, therefore, I groug

by Moggeee on Oct 3, 2008 11:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I KNOW EVERYBODY HERE THINKS WE SHOULD TRADE CAIN, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY KEEP HIM!

by chilibean_3 on Oct 3, 2008 10:37 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Since when did this become a Trade Cain thread!

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Oct 3, 2008 10:46 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

All roster threads are Trade Cain threads in disguise. They are hiding around every corner, ready to annoy people.

by chilibean_3 on Oct 3, 2008 10:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It starts innocently enough....

1) Upgrade to Cano

2) Upgrade Trade up to Cano

3) Trade up to Cano Caino

4) Trade up to Caino

5) Trade Caino Cain

by Moggeee on Oct 3, 2008 10:55 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

Right about now

ya funk soul brother

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Oct 4, 2008 9:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Aside from everything say above, it’s my impression that most folks here prefer Burriss at shortstop over second base.

Personally if the Giants some how picked up good under age 32, team controlled, SS that could handle the position I would not be against shifting Burriss back to second should he get beat out at SS. As long has he get frequent playing time so he can keep developing. Its very possible Burriss’ future (2+ seasons down the road) is at season or playing both 2nd & SS.

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

by daveinexile on Oct 3, 2008 11:39 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hopefully

Hopefully Emmanuel can become a good shortstop, since his bat will likely play better there.

by sharksrog on Oct 4, 2008 12:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with that hope. I just don’t view it as a Fait Accompli. If 2+ years down the road the Giants have a much better S.S. & 2nd baseman he would be an extremely nice utility man to have.

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

by daveinexile on Oct 4, 2008 9:14 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm fairly certain

That your average baseball video game would reject that

by woomikee on Oct 3, 2008 10:05 AM PDT   0 recs

Paraphrased:

Sandoval is expendable because of three guys, none of whom have gotten to San Jose yet.

C’mon, we’ve all got high hopes for those kids, but at this point they could just as easily be a bunch of Torcatos.

Scott McClain: Great story, no place on the 2009 Giants.

by EliminateMe on Oct 3, 2008 10:22 AM PDT   0 recs

Fresno dreams unfulfilled

A bunch of Torcatos, from the boulevard of broken taco shells.

by Moggeee on Oct 3, 2008 10:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sanchez and Sandoval for Robbie Cano

(y/n)

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Oct 3, 2008 11:48 AM PDT   0 recs

No

Needs more Brandon Phillips

Eugeniooooooo!!!!

by FairweatherFan on Oct 3, 2008 11:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

nay

is this were i ask does he play 3rd base?

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

by daveinexile on Oct 3, 2008 12:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ryan Zimmerman does!

"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 3, 2008 12:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nothing good will come of this.

Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!

by daveinexile on Oct 3, 2008 1:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Cano for Zimmerman?

by Evan on Oct 3, 2008 1:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i’d do that trade in a heartbeat if you threw in Matt Cain

Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.

by delorean on Oct 3, 2008 2:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

threw him in what?

by Merope on Oct 3, 2008 2:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

fruit pies?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Oct 3, 2008 3:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm all for this deal

If they throw in Hughes.

Proud father of Eric Surcamp!

by The Thrill on Oct 3, 2008 6:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This is probably the only fan-site I regularly visit where the trade proposals are consistently skewed in favor of the opposing party. The intention is to make the home team better! A promising left handed starter for Robinson Cano – That I could see. That’s appropriately skewed towards the home team. The Yankees wouldn’t do it, but at least it’s in the ballpark.

But adding in Sandoval, who’s almost a carbon copy of Cano – Well except Pablo has more power potential – Oh and one of the three positions he plays is catcher.

Here’s Cano’s career path.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/C/Robinson-Cano.shtml

and Pablo’s

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/S/Pablo-Sandoval.shtml

This is a good indication how similar these player are, and likely will remain.

"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean

by Smotheredinhugs on Oct 3, 2008 3:15 PM PDT   0 recs

Oh yeah, and...

"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean

by Smotheredinhugs on Oct 3, 2008 3:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I can’t believe no one has yet said “Cano? How about Ca-NO!”

by Evan on Oct 3, 2008 3:23 PM PDT   0 recs

I DONT GET IT

by rotorueter on Oct 3, 2008 3:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No

Proud father of Eric Surcamp!

by The Thrill on Oct 3, 2008 6:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Canah

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear | McFAQ

by Natto on Oct 3, 2008 7:38 PM PDT   0 recs

Canotifihaveanythingtosayaboutit

Zooperstars, they quack me up!

by Goofus on Oct 4, 2008 10:01 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sandoval

he’s one of the few reasons to be excited about this team. The team won’t trade him. Cano can’t replace that. and we have 2nd basemen.

Bonds stands alone.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 3, 2008 9:05 PM PDT   0 recs

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