Cano
by gimpsta7 on Oct 3, 2008 8:29 AM PDT
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Buster Olney reported that every team that needed a second baseman has contacted the Yankees about Cano. Most of you may think that Manny is the solution at 2nd, but I would rather see his range at short and put Cano at second. If you give him a pass on him April numbers, he hit .297 for the season. Ya down form the .330 he usually sits at, but still really good.
Here is the proposal you will all hate...
Cano for Sanchez and Sandoval.
Sanchez is good enough, but Cano could be a HOF player, and Sandoval is a few years from not having a spot on our team anyways with Connor, Buster, and Angel taking over the only spots he can play.
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No.
I would also like to take this opportunity to mention that I drink beer because I don’t trust the water supply.
by Evan on Oct 3, 2008 8:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely effing not.
I wouldn’t do Cano for either of them straight up.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 3, 2008 8:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Straight up now tell me
Do you really want to lose Pablo forever oh oh oh
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pablo’s made for the hit and run
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Oct 3, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell No..
to Cano for Kung Fu Panda. If I’m going to sit through two more years of mediocrity, I at least want some one exciting to watch besides Timmy.
My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.
by nvsfg on Oct 3, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
say no to kano
Rafael Rodriguez: More tools than Home Depot.
by BrianBokake on Oct 3, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robbie Cano.
I worry about guys like Cano who need to hit .320+ to be valuable. He was awesome defensively at 2B last year (+17 by Dewan) but this year he was the exact opposite (-16).
I like Sandoval too much to trade for him, even though in the past, Cano has been a pretty good player. From 2005-2007 his BABIP was .363 and .331, this year it was .286. We know that hitters can influence their BABIP more than their pitching counterparts, but which one is the real Cano?
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 8:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, before anyone points it out, his LD% suggests that he was a little unlucky this year. His xBABIP is closer to his career levels.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
no
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Oct 3, 2008 8:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tell us how you really feel!
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cannot
Sergio Romo will gladly hand you a bench to sit on / GIANTSPACE™ / Adopted brother of the AnVil
by SoFa King Mike on Oct 3, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peddlin' for Robinson Cano...
that’s a paddlin’
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 3, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Computer says , " Nnaahh."
We have to have like 6 possible second baseman candidates for the next 4 years already. Left side of the infield please.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
by daveinexile on Oct 3, 2008 8:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
Jesus…
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Oct 3, 2008 8:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Now that’s a guy I’d love to see playing 2B for us. I bet Jesus can really pick it!
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And who wouldn't want
a guy who could instantly make booze out of water!?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 3, 2008 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s great news for Goofus, Groug, Evan, Natto, Xanthan, and WalrusMan.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Oct 3, 2008 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s why I drink so much beer!
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot the one that would be most grateful; PBB !
My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.
by nvsfg on Oct 3, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, But
I was referring to this shtick.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Oct 3, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh....
/ slaps forehead in stupid delayed recognition moment
My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.
by nvsfg on Oct 3, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, before anyone makes that joke for the 206th time
No, xanthan did not mean Jesus Alou.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on Oct 3, 2008 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure
Jesus wouldn’t pee on his own hands.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 3, 2008 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He plays like he’s got a hole in his glove
Zooperstars, they quack me up!
by Goofus on Oct 4, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might do a Sanchez and Sosa deal. Yankees would want more though.
Oh and…
I am Cameron Wood and this is my son and business partner CW Culberson.
by camwoody on Oct 3, 2008 8:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've got an idea
How about we trade for a position other than the one where we have the most candidates.
Trading for a 2b is like trading for a CF, C, or lefty hitting platoon only 1b on this team.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Oct 3, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or big headed manager.
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Oct 3, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buster Olney reported that every team that needed a second baseman has contacted the Yankees about Cano.
I like Cano a lot. But think about it — if every team wants him, then you’re essentially in an auction. You’re going to have to outbid everyone. That’s no way to build a team. That’s how you end up paying $126 million to Barry Zito.
Far better to find a talented player everyone is down on, as the Reds did with Brandon Phillips three years ago.
by Evan on Oct 3, 2008 8:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Have you considered
Trading Sanchez for Phillips? I think this idea has merit!
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Oct 3, 2008 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you’re saying it’s likely that Sabean will acquire Cano this off-season, then.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Oct 3, 2008 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Oct 3, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget that Zito “turned down an offer for 15 million more” to go with the Giants
by Fresburg on Oct 3, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps.
But Cano has had a bad year, both offensively, AND defensively. There have been some questions on his attitude / makeup. If you want to buy low, if you believe that he can rebound from this season, now is probably the time to do so.
Just because teams have enquired about him doesn’t necessarily mean that they are willing to give much for him.
Sure, it’s better for a team to try to get a Brandon Phillips, or an Alexei Ramirez.
ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524
by rfloh on Oct 3, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd think about Sanchez
but not Sandoval
And my reasons for thinking about Sanchez for Cano has more to do with how I think about Sanchez than how I think about Cano
by NeifiChicken on Oct 3, 2008 9:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this a Yankee fan trolling?
"he walked 18; new league record! Struck out 18, another new league record! He also hit the sportswriter, the PA announcer, the bull mascot twice..."
by i did my job on Oct 3, 2008 9:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly!!!
So instead of just a one-for-one trade, you propose we trade MORE of our above average talent for a smaller return.
That’s so brilliant, I might just NOT swear at you in this post.
It’s simple… We’re not a great team right now. If the Giants are going to make any trades this offseason that cost them even one of their above average players, they should be getting younger players in return, and more of them. The other team needs to want what we’ve got more than vice versa. Anything else is stupid.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Oct 3, 2008 9:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cano was benched for a couple of days by Girardi in September for playing like a dog. I wouldn’t say no to a deal for him, because he’s better than anyone we have in that spot, but I wouldn’t trade either of the two you mentioned, let alone both of them. We all know the Yankees need a centerfielder and more gamers on their team. The player we should give you for Cano is obvious.
Brian Sabean's new dad: Firm believer in corporal punishment
by rxmeister on Oct 3, 2008 9:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rowand and Winn for Cano?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 3, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aside from everything say above, it’s my impression that most folks here prefer Burriss at shortstop over second base.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 3, 2008 10:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s the part that irked me. I hate when people who have no clue what’s going on, come in and tell us how we’re all thinking something.
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Oct 3, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IAWTC
Perhaps the poster was confusing the groupthink with the grougthink.
Scott McClain: Great story, no place on the 2009 Giants.
by EliminateMe on Oct 3, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And for his trouble, we’re dosing him with groupstink.
by Moggeee on Oct 3, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think what?
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on Oct 3, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deep thoughts
I think, therefore, I groug
by Moggeee on Oct 3, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I KNOW EVERYBODY HERE THINKS WE SHOULD TRADE CAIN, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY KEEP HIM!
by chilibean_3 on Oct 3, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when did this become a Trade Cain thread!
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Oct 3, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All roster threads are Trade Cain threads in disguise. They are hiding around every corner, ready to annoy people.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 3, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It starts innocently enough....
1) Upgrade to Cano
2) Upgrade Trade up to Cano
3) Trade up to Cano Caino
4) Trade up to Caino
5) Trade Caino Cain
by Moggeee on Oct 3, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right about now
ya funk soul brother
Zooperstars, they quack me up!
by Goofus on Oct 4, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aside from everything say above, it’s my impression that most folks here prefer Burriss at shortstop over second base.
Personally if the Giants some how picked up good under age 32, team controlled, SS that could handle the position I would not be against shifting Burriss back to second should he get beat out at SS. As long has he get frequent playing time so he can keep developing. Its very possible Burriss’ future (2+ seasons down the road) is at season or playing both 2nd & SS.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
by daveinexile on Oct 3, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
Hopefully Emmanuel can become a good shortstop, since his bat will likely play better there.
by sharksrog on Oct 4, 2008 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that hope. I just don’t view it as a Fait Accompli. If 2+ years down the road the Giants have a much better S.S. & 2nd baseman he would be an extremely nice utility man to have.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
by daveinexile on Oct 4, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fairly certain
That your average baseball video game would reject that
by woomikee on Oct 3, 2008 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Paraphrased:
Sandoval is expendable because of three guys, none of whom have gotten to San Jose yet.
C’mon, we’ve all got high hopes for those kids, but at this point they could just as easily be a bunch of Torcatos.
Scott McClain: Great story, no place on the 2009 Giants.
by EliminateMe on Oct 3, 2008 10:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fresno dreams unfulfilled
A bunch of Torcatos, from the boulevard of broken taco shells.
by Moggeee on Oct 3, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez and Sandoval for Robbie Cano
(y/n)
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Oct 3, 2008 11:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No
Needs more Brandon Phillips
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Oct 3, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nay
is this were i ask does he play 3rd base?
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
by daveinexile on Oct 3, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Zimmerman does!
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 3, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing good will come of this.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
by daveinexile on Oct 3, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’d do that trade in a heartbeat if you threw in Matt Cain
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Oct 3, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fruit pies?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 3, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for this deal
If they throw in Hughes.
Proud father of Eric Surcamp!
by The Thrill on Oct 3, 2008 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is probably the only fan-site I regularly visit where the trade proposals are consistently skewed in favor of the opposing party. The intention is to make the home team better! A promising left handed starter for Robinson Cano – That I could see. That’s appropriately skewed towards the home team. The Yankees wouldn’t do it, but at least it’s in the ballpark.
But adding in Sandoval, who’s almost a carbon copy of Cano – Well except Pablo has more power potential – Oh and one of the three positions he plays is catcher.
Here’s Cano’s career path.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/C/Robinson-Cano.shtml
and Pablo’s
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/S/Pablo-Sandoval.shtml
This is a good indication how similar these player are, and likely will remain.
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Oct 3, 2008 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, and...
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Oct 3, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe no one has yet said “Cano? How about Ca-NO!”
by Evan on Oct 3, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Canotifihaveanythingtosayaboutit
Zooperstars, they quack me up!
by Goofus on Oct 4, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sandoval
he’s one of the few reasons to be excited about this team. The team won’t trade him. Cano can’t replace that. and we have 2nd basemen.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 3, 2008 9:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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