Reminiscing and Predicting
When Comcast Sports Bay Area Net Net ran a series of classic Giants games this year, I tried to save a few on my DVR for the dark, baseball-free, winter days. I tucked them away in the deep recesses of my DVR for a baseball-withdrawl emergency, and I made it all the way to last night. Couldn't sleep, wasn't feeling well...if I went to see a doctor, he just would have told me to watch Don Robinson pitch, so I probably saved a $10 co-pay. Medicine is mostly Don Robinson-related these days.
So this was the game that was on the DVR. I remember this game well, even though I was only 10. The Giants were about to clinch their first division title since 1971, and my sister went into labor about the eighth inning. My mom wasn't sure what to do. Sure, her first grandchild was pretty exciting, but it was the Giants clinching the division. I could only hear one side of the phone conversation, and it went like this:
Long anecdote short: I was old enough to watch and understand baseball. A game from 1989 was the context in which I learned baseball. So why did the game seem so freaking alien to me when I watched it last night?
- Every middle infielder swung the bat like Barry Zito. I'm not saying the results were the same, but guys like Joey Cora and Garry Templeton were just throwing the bat out, hoping to dunk it somewhere, and skitting along like waterbugs. Juan Pierre is the anomaly today, but it seemed like every team had five Pierres on their roster in 1987. Maybe I'm just not gamer enough, but it kind of annoyed me.
- Don Robinson, who relieved for most of the '87 season, came in and pitched the final five innings, even though it was an incredibly close game. I doubt that we'll see that kind of usage pattern ever again. Heck, it's kind of unusual how David Price was used last night for the Rays.
- When the Giants clinched, a bunch of mullet jockeys jumped on the field to celebrate with the Giants. This was only 21 years ago. When did storming the field become unacceptable?
- Tony Gwynn looked like an athlete. He was still a decade away from buying Salacious Crumb at a swap meet.
- Remember how big and menacing Jeffrey Leonard used to seem? He'd fit in with Jose Castillo and Fred Lewis today.
A lot of these might be obvious differences, but it made me wonder what part of today's game will weird us out in 20 years. Everything I can think of is more of a return to the past, as in, "In the year 2028...relievers will follow the Goose Gossage usage pattern!" My best attempt at predicting the future:
- Under 6' ft.-tall players will litter the rosters. The hegemony of the tall will be no more.
- Mustaches will be so in again.
- No DH.
- The progression will continue, and the average shortstop will be 8'1", 450 lbs.
Eh, I have nothing. A big pile of nothing. But that's where you come in, gentle reader. Today's comment starter: When the Giants take the field in 2028, what will be different about the game of baseball?
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At least 50% of the leagues pitchers mimic Tim Lincecum’s pitching motion. Because of this there is a huge discrepancy between pitchers who throw in the mid 90’s to the ones who throw in the mid 100’s. That and robot bullpen catchers.
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Oct 24, 2008 12:56 PM PDT 0 recs
The Giants move the fences in 300ft and allow teams to use metal bats.
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by xanthan on Oct 24, 2008 12:58 PM PDT 0 recs
I agree the progression continues
Players will all be 9 foot tall power swinging galoots.
It will take 8 hours to complete 9 innings.
I liked my idea in another thread to have pitchers throw out of a hole in the ground so I am including it again here.
Tickets will cost 600 dollars for the bleachers and it will take a 2nd mortgage if you want to drink beer at the park.
NO MOREPARKING LOTS! We will all fly to the game in our Jetson cars.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 24, 2008 1:02 PM PDT 0 recs
The game will not be televised anywhere, as Fox’s newest MLB contract will contain a clause banning the broadcasting of any games on TV or radio. Those without tickets to the game will gather along the promenade by McCovey Cove to hear one of Dave Flemming’s daughters describe the action in Esperanto.
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by Kitspool on Oct 24, 2008 1:05 PM PDT 0 recs
[…] Dave Flemming’s daughters describe the action in Esperanto
How many of them will there be?
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on
Oct 24, 2008 1:16 PM PDT
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Counting only the natural born ones, or the clones too?
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by EliminateMe on
Oct 24, 2008 1:42 PM PDT
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Mainly the chants and cheers from the dugout that the female players introduce
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Rogers Hornsby
by igotnothing on Oct 24, 2008 1:21 PM PDT 0 recs
The Rockies black uniforms...
will no longer look like they are from the future (or from
the filming of Barbarella). They will, however, still be
fookin ugly.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Oct 24, 2008 1:25 PM PDT 0 recs
Anagram of "How will baseball be different in 2028?"
2028: FLAWED, FALLIBLE, NOBBIEST WHINER
Man, we’re never gonna get rid of Zito.
Anagram of "Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum" = TENSE, CLIMACTIC, TRIUMPHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 24, 2008 1:31 PM PDT 0 recs
Power hitter

Kind looks like Omar
Giants! Giants! HELP US GOD!
by j14 on Oct 24, 2008 1:33 PM PDT 0 recs
In seriousness
75 pitches will be the new 100 pitch count.
And, of course, Bruce Jenkins’s head will have exploded numerous times.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 24, 2008 1:36 PM PDT 0 recs
2028 Giants Manager

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by Kitspool on Oct 24, 2008 1:36 PM PDT 0 recs
Go get ’em, Buster.
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by xanthan on
Oct 24, 2008 1:37 PM PDT
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Will he replace Steve Decker?
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on
Oct 24, 2008 1:40 PM PDT
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2028 Giants (Player) Manager
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on
Oct 24, 2008 2:50 PM PDT
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Sadly...
This Guy could still be managing somewhere :-(

1987 Backup Catcher FTL !!
75 AB/ 12 Hits / .160/ .264 / .280 / 47 OPS+
My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.
by nvsfg on
Oct 24, 2008 3:50 PM PDT
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that helmet is way too small
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on
Oct 24, 2008 10:16 PM PDT
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Nah..
Omar will still be there.
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by WalrusMan on
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In the year 2028 there shall be ...
)Foul lines will be monitored by a similar system that tennis uses.
2) Pitches also will likewise be monitored. A pitch that is definitively inside the plate between the arm pits and knee caps will generate an eltric shock to the home plate ump’s right arms. A pitch well off the plate will generate a shock in his left leg. A borderline pitch will generate no shock and be up to the ump to call.
3) Expeirments will be run with using micro dots & GPS systems for homer runs but not yet implemented.
4) Thanks to harvesting organs from his own clones Selig will remain Commish for 200 more years. Resulting in #5.
5) The Commishinners office tries to ban Tim and fine the Giants by defining a Cyborg as a P.E.D.
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by daveinexile on Oct 24, 2008 1:45 PM PDT 0 recs
RE #5
And Gene Wojciechowski keeps his job for another year at the WWL.
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by UnleashTheGore on
Oct 24, 2008 2:53 PM PDT
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nice.
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by daveinexile on
Oct 24, 2008 5:37 PM PDT
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2028...
Oh those were the days when I used to have to walk uphill both ways to school, cell phones had to kept in your pocket destroying my sperm explaining your third nipple and guys like Zito only made 126 million dollars over seven years instead of over a single season.
by covenant on Oct 24, 2008 2:02 PM PDT 0 recs
Explain something to me...
…how is it a cell phone in my pocket destroys your sperm?
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by EliminateMe on
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2028
1) Free-Agency as we know it will be a thing of the past. Players begin and end their careers with the same team
2) Pitch counts will be a thing of the past, it will be more fatigue and performance based pitcher management.
3) Following the great war and economic crash of 2012, a salary cap is introduced.
by OmahaGiants on Oct 24, 2008 3:14 PM PDT 0 recs
In the year 2028
short shorts will return to the NBA.
Speed, defense... and an almost fanatical devotion to getting picked off.
by SF Pete on Oct 24, 2008 3:20 PM PDT 0 recs
more instant replay. pitchers won’t ice after starts. Sunflower seeds will be shown to cause cancer. A beer at the ballpark will cost over $100.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 24, 2008 3:21 PM PDT 0 recs
one more
rosters will have to be proportionally divided among the races.
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by nostocksjustbonds on
Oct 24, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
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A beer at the ballpark will cost over $100.
I think we’re supposed to be predicting how things are different.
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by groug on
Oct 24, 2008 3:25 PM PDT
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Sunflower seeds will be shown to cause cancer.
Not my only joy! I’M NOT GOING TO QUIT GODAMIT
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by WalrusMan on
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MLB will feature “No Pants Fridays” nationwide.
Patron saint of pesky hitters.
by younghutch on Oct 24, 2008 3:27 PM PDT 0 recs
starts in SF, of course.
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by UnleashTheGore on
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technology everywhere
the field will light up one color when a ball drops in fair and another when it’s foul, same for homeruns/non HRs, the uniforms will be some crazy space age material and if we don’t look out they’ll be one-piece jumpsuits. They’ll eventually ban wood bats after one shatters and kills the pitcher – they’ll go to some kind of indestructible resin that exactly mimics wood without breaking. Every player will take an instantaneous blood test for PEDs before every game along with a chip in their head that alerts the MLB if they’re lying.
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on Oct 24, 2008 3:41 PM PDT 0 recs
But they will spot singing God Bless America during the 7th inning stretch. Instead giving us jello wrestling.
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by daveinexile on
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God Bless America...
between every inning.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Oct 24, 2008 3:52 PM PDT 0 recs
The uniforms will be the most different. They go to all cotton.
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by WalrusMan on Oct 24, 2008 4:10 PM PDT 0 recs
i'm sorry grant
…but did you really just use the phrase “kind of unique”
by brandollars on Oct 24, 2008 4:11 PM PDT 0 recs
Big Brother is always right.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
by Cookyman on
Oct 24, 2008 4:20 PM PDT
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The distant future; the year 2000
As the pace of life continues to become more frenetic, and attention spans wane:
1. Less time between innings
2. Less time allowed for pitching changes
3. Batters cannot call “time”
4. Pitch clock (similar to NBA’s shot clock)
5. Baseball games average 39 minutes shorter length than today
Computer/radar detected balls/stikes, and four/fair.
Also, look for corporate advertising on uniforms in all sports.
Defender of Noah Lowry.
by Kid Fresh on Oct 24, 2008 4:19 PM PDT 0 recs
2000 is the distant future?
Turn around , Bright Eyes!
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by victor frankenstein on
Oct 24, 2008 4:24 PM PDT
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the giants are dead
i kicked them, they’re really dead.
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by UnleashTheGore on
Oct 24, 2008 4:57 PM PDT
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DH
I think it’s very likely that both leagues will have adopted the DH. I don’t think the DH will ever leave, since it’s equivalent to taking away a job, which the union probably wouldn’t allow. I know it’s blasphemy to say this, but I will be happy. I’m sicking of watching pitchers hit. The majority of them suck at it and the core of the game is the batter/pitcher matchup. Give me more Ortiz and Hafner ABs and less Randy Johnson hacks.
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by marcello on Oct 24, 2008 4:59 PM PDT 0 recs
Just say no
to the designated fat guy!
VOTE NIBLETS!
by Lars The Wanderer on
Oct 24, 2008 5:04 PM PDT
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BOO
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by groug on
Oct 24, 2008 6:34 PM PDT
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Hmmm
So THIS is why I didn’t win most informative.
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by marcello on
Oct 25, 2008 10:38 AM PDT
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You had it coming.
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by groug on
Oct 25, 2008 11:58 AM PDT
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Well
If this is your POV, then why not just go football style and have an offensive team and a defensive team?
Then you could have a whole lineup of David Ortiz/Ryan Howard/Jack Custs and a field full of Ivan Ochoa’s and Bococks.
Lame!
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on
Oct 25, 2008 5:50 PM PDT
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Nah.
The owners agree to make it 26 man active roster & the DH goes away in both leagues. The bad news it with in a few seasons most mangers use it to carry an extra left hander reliever.
Ivan Ochoa - Heir to the legacy of Rob Andrews & Rikkert Faneyte!
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by daveinexile on Oct 24, 2008 5:36 PM PDT 0 recs
reply fail
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Flying proudly above
Mays Field at Rice-a-Roni Park will be six World Championship banners, the most recent of which honors the Giants victory in the 2027 World Series over the Mexico City Caballeros.
by baseballjunkie on Oct 24, 2008 6:43 PM PDT 0 recs
2028 fielding coach!

Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on Oct 24, 2008 7:26 PM PDT 0 recs
I thought this guy would be Team Nutritionist

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by giants9107 on
Oct 25, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
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nope, Team Kinesthesiologist.
He’ll show you how to sweat without doing enough work to break one.
Uncle Sabes...How much longer til we get there?
by NorCalGiant on
Oct 26, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
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In all seriousness
Expansion into Mexico
Increased use of technology/instant replay.
Insane salary inflation.
Smaller and smaller parks to encourage ZOMG HOMERUNZ
And yes, that is a palindrome if you look at it right.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Oct 25, 2008 5:52 PM PDT 0 recs
ZNUR EMOHGMOZ!
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by WalrusMan on
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In the year 2028.....IN the YEAR 2028...
They will have GPS sensors in the ball, in home plate, along the foul lines, and along the wall. The umpires will be all but moot as instant replay just goes to show how wrong they are all the time, but the Union fights to have them left on the field and make strange, insignificant gestures as the ball flies, bounces and rolls around the ballpark as computers have all but completely taken over the officiating of the game.
They will have computer emulators for announcers, bringing back all the great voices of baseball past, shoring up the desire to “bring back the time when the game was really a game”.
Since there is no more paper money or credit cards, we have all of our bank info on a chip under our skin, everything we purchase, ever will be implanted on that chip, and instead of blood, piss, or hair tests, they will just scan you chip to see what drugs you had taken and if they are appropriate for that day/part of the season, since nearly all athletes will be using drugs of some kind to enhance their “well-being” and “ability to be competitive”.
All surgeries will be in cybernetics; giving pitchers cyborg shoulders, and elbows, allowing them to throw 120 mph curveballs and 140 mph fastballs with pinpoint accuracy; giving hitters cyborg legs and eyes, allowing them the ability to know where the ball is at all times, whether to swing, or take an extra base without having to actually see the ball.
Beer will not only be disallowed at the ballpark, it will stop being made period, as after the war of 2012, prohibition went back into effect, as did mandatory neural stimulators to relax the general public. You will now be charged $125 for a glass of sweet tea, and the effect of sugar will end up bring the same effect as alcohol.
Uncle Sabes...How much longer til we get there?
by NorCalGiant on Oct 26, 2008 9:20 AM PDT 0 recs
I predict
still zero world series wins for San Francisco.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN
by zenbitz on Oct 26, 2008 4:36 PM PDT 0 recs
Well at least no more then 3 wins in any given World Series appearance.
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