Rooting Around
No more Dodgers. No more Red Sox. I was certainly looking forward to typing those words, but I’m suddenly so… so… hollow. The hate nourished me. Gave me sustenance. Warmed the Brian Bocockles of my heart, it did. And now I have to sit by the fire and sip on a steaming mug of what now, wondering for whom I should root in the World Series. There just isn’t a good way to get riled up against either one of these teams. I’ll actually have to root…for a team instead of against another one? Craziness.
Arguments for the Phillies
- For three games in the Series, the Phillies will be the vanguards of justice, liberty, and all that is right with our national pastime when they tell the Rays to stick their DH in their DH-hole. NL forever! AL never! Keep your designated-hitting by-laws off of my body! Wolveriiiiiines!
- It’s been a while for Philly in any sport. The 76ers, Eagles, Flyers, and Phillies have all had some interesting runs over the past 25 years, but it’s always ended in anger, tears, and scores of assault charges. I tend to pull for the cities with long championship droughts. Like, oh, San Francisco, for example. Suddenly, 1995 isn’t recent history anymore.
- The Phillies play outside. In a real stadium, with real grass. Sorry, Tampa. It makes a difference.
- The Phillies beat the Dodgers. C’mon. That’s not enough to name my firstborn Colehamelia, but it’s close. The least I could do is root for them in the Series.
Arguments for the Rays
- You heartless, non-Rays rooting pinkos make me sick. This is America. We like apple pie, huge cinematic explosions, and underdogs. Don’t like it? Take the DH and your Gorky Park albums, and go back to Russia. The Rays in the World Series? That’s so counterintuitive, it hurts me in the awesome.
- The Rays give me unrealistic hope that the Giants will contend soon. Not because of any similarities between the two rosters, mind you, but because if the Rays can go from a team ERA of 5.53 to the World Series in one year, the Giants can go from 94 home runs and an OPS+ of 89 to the World Series in one year. Don’t try and poke holes in that logic; it’s irrefutable.
Conclusion:
Phillies. It was close, but there’s no other choice. Phoenix has had a championship parade. Miami has already had two championship parades. And now Tampa/St. Petersburg wants one? That’s too much. Dallas, Houston, Seattle, Milwaukee, and, oh yes, San Francisco are already in line. No cutting. You can almost steal our franchise, and you can steal our first-round picks (as long as they’re expensive busts), but hands off an out-of-turn championship, Tampa.
And you know what? All of those circa-‘60s and -‘70s franchises can get bent too. San Francisco’s had baseball since the ‘50s without a parade down Market Street. But I'll reserve the bulk of my ire for the newfangled expansion teams trying to make the Giants look bad. Worse, I mean.
So go Phillies. Kind of. I mean, it’d be cool if Tampa won too. I already miss the legitimate hate. It nourished me so.
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The reasons for the Phillies are good but the Rays are just too adorable.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Oct 20, 2008 1:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Red Dawn was filmed in New Mexico by the way.
by Dan from NM on Oct 20, 2008 1:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There is nothing better than warm bocockles
Phillies.
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 20, 2008 1:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do the Phillies have team mowhawks?
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Oct 20, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mowhawks?
More like failhawks.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Oct 20, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had photoshop skills, I’d be working on an image of hawks pushing lawnmowers.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the NL team is anyone but the Braves or Dodgers (and maybe the Cubs), and the AL team is anyone but the Blue Jays, I root for the NL team.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Phillies. Just on the off-chance that Jeannie Zelasko has to present the MVP trophy to Pedro Feliz.
No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.
by Kitspool on Oct 20, 2008 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just on the off-chance that Jeannie Zelasko has to present the MVP trophy to Pedro Feliz.
This sounds like a weird fetish.
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Oct 20, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rays. I’ll marry Joe Maddon if they win.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 1:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s the glasses, isn’t it?
#1 JUDY STEFFES FAN
My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor)
Bay City Ball
by xanthan on Oct 20, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every man who wears glasses is serious studmuffin material. I’m pretty sure it’s a law.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true
/adjusts glasses
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 20, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The exception that proves the rule?
Also, it’s possible he’s made of antimatter, so the reverse of every rule applies to him.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you think howtheyscored scores?
It’s the glasses!
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yee Yee!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
howtheyscored scores?
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
by WalrusMan on Oct 20, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yee Yee!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And mohawk.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BaronVonBigamy?
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
[Fred Lewis immediately races over to Lenscrafters.]
No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.
by Kitspool on Oct 20, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s in the constitution.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd have to say the rays
i’m sure they have at least a few hundred die-hards… people who have endured a decade of last place. and they have NEVER had success at any level; imagine being a teen in tampa in the late 90’s, being excited you now had a major league team, and they were terrible each year and are now in the world series!
also, the tampa fans have probably never thrown batteries at their own players.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
by redhornet78 on Oct 20, 2008 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
also, the tampa fans have probably never thrown batteries at their own players.
Pretty much this. I have no problem seeing Philly fans’ drought prolonged.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 20, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand, if you’re going to throw batteries at a player, it might as well be JD Drew.
by cornball on Oct 20, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rachel Ray and Ray Villenueve both have terroist ties. Since Rays are clearly associated with terrorists, I’ll root for the Phillies.
Zooperstars, they quack me up!
by Goofus on Oct 20, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh I do hate Rachael Ray.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t disagree more.
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Oct 20, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Horrible voice, terrible food, average looks, pass.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, anyone who refers to sandwiches as “sammies” doesn’t deserve to live.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of Food Network is a trainwreck anyway. I’ve since seen the Light and turned to America’s Test Kitchen and Sara Moulton on PBS. You know, good cooking shows?
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last cooking show I enjoyed was The Frugal Gourmet, when I was pre-pubescent. My wife loves Alton Brown, though.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one who really drives me nuts, though, is the Barefoot Contessa, whatever her name is. As I call her, The Boring Woman. Aside from being boring, her show mainly seems to be about how her home is fabulous and her friends are fabulous and how, if she doesn’t make everything perfect, her husband will leave her.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s disturbing that so many women eat that shit up with a spoon.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear she’s not even really barefoot.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2008 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at the gym the other day and they had the food network on. Some chubby older lady was making something with what looked like a pound of butter, a pound of cheese, and a bunch of greasy meat. The old lady next to me was offended when I asked her if the show’s name was “Kardiac Kitchen” I really didn’t think anybody ate like that anymore! I guess I was WRONG!
by Merope on Oct 20, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was almost certainly the Barefoot Contessa lady.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said older lady. That would be Paula Dean.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2008 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ina Garten is 60 if Wikipedia is to be believed. Depends on your definition of older, I suppose.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
She’s 60?! Sweet dancing jehova. If I look that decent when I’m 60 then I’ll consider myself blessed.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giada is NOT a trainwreck

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on Oct 20, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never watched Giada, but
I’m a major fan of Remy Hadley (13 on house).
by Jakespaar on Oct 20, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you mean
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on Oct 20, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Her first name's Remy?
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on Oct 20, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, 13's first name is Remy
but, as wJackalope astutely pointed out, the actress’ first name is Olivia.
by Jakespaar on Oct 21, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
I like 13. Apparently she kisses other girls this week. OMGZ
by bondslegend on Oct 20, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The weird thing is that it’s not even sweeps yet.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on Oct 20, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did that the last time Olivia Wilde was a regular on a TV show.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes she is. Her head is way too big for her body and she’s incredibly full of herself. No thanks.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
big headed
literally and figuratively.
still doesn’t make her a trainwreck.
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on Oct 20, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t stand her, so that’s why I would call her such.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
but to belabor the point – I once made a recipe I saw on her show and it was damn good
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on Oct 20, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, she’s really funny looking. I’ve always been baffled by the notion that she’s attractive.
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m always amused by guys on the internet who criticize these women on TV when they probably haven’t even touched a woman who comes within 6 of that.
6 what, you ask? You know what.
/weirdo moment from last week.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2008 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HILARY DUFF IS TOTLY UGLY BUT SHE WUZ FUNNY IN MEAN GIRLS
by Natto on Oct 20, 2008 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG
you mean there are…real girls??
by bondslegend on Oct 20, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, I was just teasing.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree with this.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Oct 21, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yummy
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone made the “trainwreck in my pants” joke yet? No? Excellent.
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Oct 20, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that anything like building a little birdhouse in your soul?
by Merope on Oct 20, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nigella Lawson!

British accent, nice rack, pretty face, professional chef… basically your perfect MILF.
‘Course, she makes crappy English food, so that’s a -1.
Giada – Nigella is a nice top of the rotation. Would that make Rachel Ray the Barry Zito of the Food Network?
by Ed Jew on Oct 20, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
omg, My general manager is Rachel Ray in like 20 years. She sounds and looks like her, only taller. It can be so irritating sometimes.
"You lost me at carrots, which was the first draft of 'you had me at hello'".
by giantscatcher on Oct 21, 2008 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phillies
I guess. Maybe. I’m not sure. Don’t look at me that way! AAUUUGH STOP IT *jumps out of window *
by Natto on Oct 20, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Phillies.
There are underdogs…then there is the cheeky paperboy who thinks he can make a move on my wife. Tampa, or Tampa Bay, or the Rays, or the Devil Rays, or whatever cannot win the World Series. It would upset the natural order and render illegitimate notion of paying your dues. Betcha didn’t know that the Marlins have had their WS titles expunged from the record books for the same reason. Look it up.
I swear I’m gonna pop the smarmy little head off of the paperboy’s neck next time he sleeps with my wife. Bastard.
…
Wait, am I using my out-loud voice again?
Patron saint of pesky hitters.
by younghutch on Oct 20, 2008 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Phillies - FTW
I totally agree with your point about the n00b teams. Let them wait! This is a very easy decision for me, for three reasons:
1). The Phillies knocked the Dodgers out of the Playoffs! They deserve our undying gratitude for this…
2). The Phillies are in the National League.
3). The Rays are n00bs. It’s enough that they made it to the WS.
by Jakespaar on Oct 20, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am going for the Phillies. Which means the Rays will actually win.
by satyricrash on Oct 20, 2008 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cowbells...
I remember being in a city for two games in 1987
where all you could drink was Budweiser and they
wrang (wring/wrang/wrung?) cowbells a bunch.
I didnt enjoy it.
That said, I’ll probably root for the Phils (NL and ex-G’s
factor), but could be swayed to the Satan R*ays once
it begins.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Oct 20, 2008 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There you go again with the proper placement of prepositions and the correct usage of “whom.” Do you really think we care? You write a baseball blog, you jackass. Stop pretending you’re Truman Capote, and work on a new Matt Cain trade scenario. Jackass.
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by WalrusMan on Oct 20, 2008 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
to be honest, what I’m really rooting for is a 7 game, entertaining series.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
by jponry on Oct 20, 2008 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be nice. The WS in the past five years or so have been far too short.
by Natto on Oct 20, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Gimme seven games
Gimme seven games Mister
And you’ll never see me no more.
Anagram of "Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum" = TENSE, CLIMACTIC, TRIUMPHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 20, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phillies
The American League is an abomination. The Phillies have more tradition. These hip AL youngsters have no respect. But of chain-snatching whippersnappers. Philadelphia has done their time, now it’s their turn (I think we stepped out of line to get a churro).
But I guess the Rays are young & inspirational and stuff. Meh, I won’t be upset either way.
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Oct 20, 2008 1:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But = bunch
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Oct 20, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the AL are a bunch of sandal-wearing goldfish tenders
but i can’t i good conscience root for anything from Philadelphia.
Go DEVIL rays.
what’s that now? the Devil Rays changed their name because they didn’t like seeming to invoke Satan? Even when it’s clear they are named after a cartilaginous fish?
I guess all that’s left is to hope both of these team just completely embarrass themselves. I’m hoping both teams commit a record number of errors.
"ever so cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"
by The Gene Hackman on Oct 20, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that really why they changed their name!?
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is Florida, dude
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that you mention it, when my parents first moved to Florida (Tallahassee) in the 90s, the first thing their neighbors asked them was, “You are church-going folks, right?”
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough call
This is one of those Serieses where I wait for it to start and then see who I find myself pulling for. Or, I may just watch it indifferently.
But in any case, I will LOVE watching it. No pissant Red Sox, no pigfucker Dodgers, no asswipe Cubs bandwagoneers, and no AJ PierShitStain.
I guess if the hate truly nourished you, we still have Buck and McCarver.
Oh, Jayson Stark would seem to agree that we don’t need those steengking Sox or Dodgers or Torre or Francona or Manny being Asshat to have a compelling Series.
Anagram of "Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum" = TENSE, CLIMACTIC, TRIUMPHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 20, 2008 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't diss McCarver
He invented the game dontcha know…
I for one simply cannot wait for the cute Fox gimmick that should arrive this year. I mean,. c’mon, who else offers up such gems as “Slider”? Or the WebMD hurt zone (did you know that the wrist is at the end of the forearm? The glowing area should’ve alerted you).
I soothe myself by imagining that Buck reaches over constantly and fiddles with McCarver’s “waddle” or turkey-neck-skin.
And then they both giggle, off-mike of course.
Patron saint of pesky hitters.
by younghutch on Oct 20, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
I just discovered that the above post is my 1500th.
Anagram of "Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum" = TENSE, CLIMACTIC, TRIUMPHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 20, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I do
when I don’t know who to root for. Like grant says, there are compelling reasons both ways. I just watch the first game, and by the end I’ve usually found someone/thing that I can root for/against.
I’m undecided!
I also love how Grant puts those third options in the polls. Makes it much easier to decide.
by bondslegend on Oct 20, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I do
when I don’t have serious hate for either team. I will generally side with the NL team, but the presence of rectum face is pushing me to the dark side this year.
My adopted son Matt Downs. Lost in the wilderness of mediocrity.
by nvsfg on Oct 20, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I truly don’t have a favorite yet but fully intend on watching every game and think it’s going to be a great series. I’ll probably end up rooting for the NL but, in my mind, if the Rays, Marlins or D-Backs win the World Series it invalidates the entire season. “2003? Oh, that Marlins won that year, that year doesn’t really count.” So if the Rays win, it means we didn’t start Brian Bocock at shortstop at any point in our franchise’s history.
by saveuszito on Oct 20, 2008 2:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Phillies?
Do you not remember this? or this? or this?
Also, if the Phils lose the WS, then the Dodgers lost to a team that didn’t even win the WS, thus making them appear even worse than if they lost to a team that eventually won it all (thus giving them a decent excuse as to why they lost). Think about that.
Go Rays.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2008 2:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
On a related note
Am I the only one still bitter slightly about the Giants almost moving to St. Petersburg in 1992?
What man? Which man? Who’s the man? When’s a man a man? What makes a man a man? Am I a man? Yes. Technically I am. - FotC
by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2008 2:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In other news
Timmy wins Players Choice Award for Outstanding NL Pitcher.
Anagram of "Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum" = TENSE, CLIMACTIC, TRIUMPHING
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 20, 2008 2:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can a People’s Choice Award be far behind?
No, my Crazy Crab bobblehead is not for sale.
by Kitspool on Oct 20, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Golden Globe?
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comment Hijack!
Best Anagram of “Stuttering John Tamargo.”
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
by WalrusMan on Oct 20, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since we're doing other news
Thought I’d share that I had a dream Friday night that Sabean traded Sanchez away for Mark Kotsay. I think my expectations are low enough now for the offseason.
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Oct 20, 2008 2:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m just hoping that Sabean didn’t happen to see just how laden with veteran savvy Jason Veritek was. Or what a gamer Mike Lowell was on the bench, spitting out sunflower seeds and all.
Patron saint of pesky hitters.
by younghutch on Oct 20, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m rooting for the Phillies. I spent about half my childhood in the ’burbs of Philly rooting for the likes of Jay Johnstone, Greg Luzinski, and Tug McGraw. Somewhere I still have newspaper clippings and a pocket schedule from the 1975 season.
The DEVIL Rays have served their purpose and ousted the Sox. I just can’t abide by changing a team’s name, because you think God cares about it. It will just make the wacky religious folks even wackier if they are given the opportunity to think that removing the “devil” from the team’s name resulted in a World Series win.
by Merope on Oct 20, 2008 3:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Serriously, a hockey team named the New Jersey …s?
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Oct 20, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is your stance on the Anaheim Ducks? The lost the “mighty” in their name and won a Stanley Cup.
Is removinge the word devil from your name kinda like trying to distance yourself from Disney?
by chilibean_3 on Oct 20, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's my stance on the ducks
I effing hate the cheating bastards.
by bondslegend on Oct 20, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve always thought Disney was in league with the Devil…so maybe….
and Pronger is the devil incarnate
by Merope on Oct 20, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do think that "9=8,4,2" thing
is pretty stupid, though. The Rays are a bunch of GAMERRSS!!! Jason Bartlett is their MVP1!1
by bondslegend on Oct 20, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it me or does “Colehamelia” belong in a medical journal?
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on Oct 20, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, she might grow up to be a doctor, but you’re putting an awful lot of pressure on a little girl who hasn’t even been born yet.
Scott McClain: Great story, no place on the 2009 Giants.
by EliminateMe on Oct 20, 2008 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well I'm rooting for the Rays
Although Grant’s arguments for the Phillies are actually very compelling, and it would be nice to see the NL take one. But I just like the Rays more. They are young, fun, fresh, and they don’t have any players worthy of my ire. I like that they drafted well, made smart decisions in FA’s and trades, and are in their first winning season ever.
The Phillies? Well, now that they’re not facing the Dodgers, I hate rectum face once again. And honestly, while I respect Happy Pete, I don’t think he’s worthy of a ring. They do play outside, on grass, in the NL, which is all good, but the Rays can’t be blamed for their own shitty stadium, which was, IIRC, built with the Giants in mind. Ok after some research I see that last sentence isn’t true, although it was built in an attempt to possibly lure an MLB team.
Anyway, I’m for the Rays, sometimes your heart doesn’t listen to logic. I guess something about them gives me hope. Hope we can turn it all around also.
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on Oct 20, 2008 3:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll be rooting for the Rays.
Usually I’d be rooting for the NL, but I enjoy Philadelphia fans’ suffering. They truly are horrible people. I don’t really understand all this “They are a newer team and newer team’s don’t deserve to win!” nonsense. I think the true Rays fans have more than paid their dues and this team was built the right way.
Either way, I’m just hoping for a good series.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 20, 2008 3:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"true Rays fans"
I’m pretty sure they showed both of them on TV last night.
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll have you know they number in the dozens. THE DOZENS!
by chilibean_3 on Oct 20, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And one is an obnoxious college basketball guy from ESPN…“IT’S AWESOME BABY!!!!” At lease he got season tickets the first year of the Devil Rays in 1998.
A gamer does NOT wear a foam finger, a dork does.
by SFGuy on Oct 20, 2008 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the crap people are giving him is pretty out of line. He’s always been a fan of that team.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 20, 2008 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phillies fans
I could stand for them to suffer just a little bit longer. I wouldn’t say that the Rays fans have suffered because they didn’t really have fans before this year, so “what suffering?”
Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal
by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Did the the Phillies fans go through 10 years of last place and being a punchline? There wasn’t even a reason to watch for Rays fans.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 20, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would encourage everyone to check out the Phillies Team History between 1948-1918. The 1932 season was the pinnacle with a 78-76 record and a 4th place finish. Every other year was a losing record, mostly 8th & 7th place finishes…FOR THIRTY YEARS they were a joke.
The Phillies have lost more games than ANY PROFESSIONAL FRANCHISE.
So…why are their fans so insufferable?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 20, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many fans today were fans during that time?
by chilibean_3 on Oct 20, 2008 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do not mock Jamie Moyer!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 20, 2008 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He will be around and pitching long after most of us are dead!
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on Oct 20, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
3rd Option Voter here
I’m undecided and leaning (maybe) towards the Rays. I really won’t know until the game starts and I have that undeniable feeling in my gut.
Phillies Good – Rally Charlie Manuel: classy, old-school manager trying to win it all in the wake of losing his mother. Also I support Happy Pete and Scott Eyre. And I usually root the NL
Phillies Bad – their obnoxious and starved fans (also see: Cubs fans; Dodger Fans)
Rays Good – they play an excellent brand of NL inspired hardball, I love Joe Maddon; DAVE MARTINEZ; having been here in Florida since August I’ve warmed up to the Rays players and love that Cliff Floyd is a veteran presence on this squad. Oh, and 5 Rays players got up early this morning and appeared with Barack Obama in Tampa – including David Price, and Cliff Floyd…refreshing.
Rays Bad – AL, Designated Hitter, etc; Joe Maddon was a coach on some team that was supposed to play in some WS that disappeared into a wormhole; the newbie franchise argument (they can’t win before the Giants, Indians, etc..) – though I cannot decide what would be worse: watching newbie Rays fans celebrate, or the championship-famished (did I mention obnoxious?) Philly fans..
I am leaning-Rays, but wouldn’t be surprised to find myself rooting for the Phils. I just hope it goes 7 games so I’m entertained.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 20, 2008 3:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
GAH’s bong wrote in part:
and love that Cliff Floyd is a veteran presence on this squad
Would that be Cliff ~ Randy Pink ~ Floyd?
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
by bgunn on Oct 20, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll probably go on a game-by-game basis. Root against Brett Myers (always). Root for Cole Hamels. (and his Nuschlerian voice). Root for whichever team has a less annoying bandwagon celebrity fan.
I’m excited that teams I hate aren’t in the Series though.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on Oct 20, 2008 4:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Residents of Tampa, FL have had a victory parade in this millenium; see 2003 – 2004 Tampa Bay Lightning.
Therefore, go Pat Burrell (Bellarmine HS), Jimmy Rollins (Encinal HS), Eric Bruntlett (Stanford), and the rest of your Philadelphia Phillies.
by Ed Jew on Oct 20, 2008 4:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
While I don’t hate the Rays, as my Red Sox are gone, I’m a National League guy so I’ll root for the Phillies despite the fact I think Shane Victorino is a douchebag. Plus seeing a franchise which is only 10 years old win the World Series while a certain team celebrated 50 years but zero rings is something I don’t think I want to see.
A gamer does NOT wear a foam finger, a dork does.
by SFGuy on Oct 20, 2008 5:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Political
The kinder, gentler, liberal-er baseball team: your Tampa Bay Rays: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/20/tampa-bay-rays-come-out-for-obama/?mod=googlenews_wsj
I’m sort of in love with Fernando Perez now. I was just informed that he went to Columbia. As in the university.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 7:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The comments there are colossally stupid. Which reminds me, who thought it was a good idea to add a comments section to MLB.com articles?
by Natto on Oct 20, 2008 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just noticed they started doing that. I’m sure it will provide a world of insight and intelligent discourse.
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More like DISS-course!!! Booya Amirite!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IKR!
"While conservatives tell you 'leave things alone and no one will lose,' and liberals tell you 'interfere a lot and no one will lose,' baseball says 'someone will lose.' Not only says it - but insists upon it! ... Democracy is lovely, but baseball's more mature." BVCE supports SF Dugout and Manny Burriss.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 20, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know if anyone addressed it or not...
But one of the biggest reasons I have for not rooting for the Rays is because of their fanbase. I can’t justify rooting for a team whose own fans can’t be bothered to root for them.
Plus the Phillies are like 200 years old or so. I’ll root for hella old before I root for 10-year-history.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Oct 20, 2008 8:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
who vs. whom
Since you mentioned it, Is “whom” the correct word there? I think it is “who”.
by StickRat on Oct 21, 2008 12:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Since you would answer the question “I am rooting for him,” it is whom.
Him/her = whom.
He/she = who.
That’s the easy way out, anyway.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2008 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re such a whom kisser.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
by WalrusMan on Oct 21, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The official language of McCovey Chronicles is so Sarcasm,
and Doublespeak is a subset of the Sarcasm language. Whatever the case, I am rooting for the Phillies. He is not my favorite team, but I am kinda old school in that I try to root for the National League.
by StickRat on Oct 21, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean ... Him is not my favorite team.
by StickRat on Oct 21, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s “him ARE not my favorite team”.
duh.
Patron saint of pesky hitters.
by younghutch on Oct 21, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are no plural pronouns anymore! Not even of the implied variety.
Next step: eliminate regular pronouns! But then wilriv will have won….
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being an object of a preposition (in this case "for"), the word always has to be “whom”, as “who” is reserved for use as a subject.
by Natto on Oct 21, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could be wrong as I am not exactly a grammar guru, but ...
I’m fairly certain the word “whom” is reserved for the object being an individual person. The perspective object of the question is a group. So the question should read: “For which are you rooting?”. However, if one is to miscreate the question, it would make more sense to use the interrogative “who”, to denote that the object “Phillies” or “Rays” is comprised of people, not a person.
by StickRat on Oct 21, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That all depends on whether you consider a team as an idea or a group of people. If you’re referring to people, you use “whom”, no matter if it’s one or more of them. Which/what is used for everything else.
by Natto on Oct 21, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/stares at hands
whoa.
i think i get it.
whoa
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 21, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, the Rays have the most rooting interest? Rooting for any team in Florida seems sacrilegious, or at least eerily similar to rooting for LA.
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Oct 21, 2008 3:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Immediate disqualification of the Rays for rooting purposes due to the use of a prop (namely a cowbell) by their fans. Too reminiscent of some shitbag fans using something called thunderstix when cheering on their shitbag team in some WS that vanished into the aforementioned wormhole.
Also, their shitbag stadium has “catwalks” which, every time the shitbag announcers mention them, remind me of that shitbag song by Right Said Fred…“I’m too sexy for my shirt…and I do my little turn on the catwalk.”
…
I have rage.
Patron saint of pesky hitters.
by younghutch on Oct 21, 2008 6:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
shitbag thunderstix
I’m pissed off now, thanks.
by bondslegend on Oct 21, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thunder-rage
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 21, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THANKS
THANK YOU for your ever-so-close decision to endorse the Phillies!
http://www.thegoodphight.com
WHY CAN'T US?
by WholeCamels on Oct 21, 2008 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Are there really almost 400 regular members of this site ?
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Oct 21, 2008 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
399
I need to increase my fiber intake.
Patron saint of pesky hitters.
by younghutch on Oct 21, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d describe most of us as irregular.
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
by ResDog on Oct 22, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I eat my fiber.
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on Oct 22, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
also....
…any team that panders to the religious right and takes the “devil” out of their team name, even though the devil ray lives off the coast of Florida, gets a thumbs down from me.
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Oct 21, 2008 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ive changed my mind
<a href=“http://deadspin.com/5065810/the-angryville-chronicles-stories-about-philadelphias-ferociously-loyal-amusingly-vile-fanbase”http://deadspin.com/5065810/the-angryville-chronicles-stories-about-philadelphias-ferociously-loyal-amusingly-vile-fanbase" target="_blank">http://deadspin.com/5065810/the-angryville-chronicles-stories-about-philadelphias-ferociously-loyal-amusingly-vile-fanbase" >Eff the phillies and their horrible fans.
I’m sure it’s just my midwestern sensibilities acting up, but I’m pretty damn sure no 49ers fans pulled this kid of shit back when they were winning superbowls, or ever for that matter. I wouldn’t mind those a-holes suffering for a little lot longer.
GO RAYS
by bondslegend on Oct 21, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The story where they booed everything was actually really funny. Not really mean at all.
"Sandals suck! Next time wear shoes."
That’s just awesome.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 21, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
that was funny, but tackling a dude into a piss plant because he’s wearing a different jersey? Or tipping a dude who’s taking a dump? C’mon. It’s a freaking game, peeps.
by bondslegend on Oct 22, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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