About last night....
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 17, 2008 1:07 PM PDT
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PrintA vast majority of Red Sox fans annoy me. It started when the Red Sox came to San Francisco in 2004, before the team had won a World Series. The collective arrogance of the fans...it still irritates me to think of it right now.
You know when a team scores a run to tie a game or take a lead, the television camera does a crowd shot, and in that crowd shot, there's an almost-attractive woman dancing? Her eyes are closed, she's biting her lip (maybe just smiling), looking down, and she's just swaying around as if to say, "The fact that my team just did well somehow validates every choice that I've ever made as a person, and I will dance a dance of arrogance to alert you to this fact," and you kind of want to pour a jar of mustard over her and poke her fat, bearded boyfriend in the eye? This demographic comprises about 2% of most teams' fanbases. After the 2004 Red Sox/Giants series, I did some research. It turns out that this demographic comprises 50% of the Boston fanbase. Look it up.
Before the 2004 series, I liked the Red Sox. I really did. Giants were my team, obviously, but if I had to pick an AL team, the Red Sox were right behind the A's. When they came to San Francisco, I was unfortunate enough to attend this game. Nothing brings out arrogant, swaying, almost-attractive quasi-fans and their fat, bearded boyfriends more than comeback victories. The Giants were up 7-2, but the Red Sox scored seven runs in the fifth inning and never looked back. It was ugly. The Red Sox fans were unbearable in a way that I had never experienced before.
So I regret to inform everyone that I kind of enjoyed watching last night's game. I'm still pulling for the Rays; don't get me wrong. But eight unanswered runs to stave off elimination...wow. All I really want to watch in a non-Dodger playoff series is compelling baseball, and, man, did we get some compelling baseball last night.
And, heck, you know there are a bunch of Tampa fans who've been living and dying with their team since its inception. They used to set their VCRs when their team was messing around with Jared Sandberg and Dewon Brazelton. So with those fans in mind, a part of me was hoping the Rays got a chance to win the pennant at home.
Dang, though. What a fantastic game last night. I hate myself for thinking so, but I can't help it.
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I got on the Red Sox Hate bandwagon shortly before Grant. I went to college in New York City, and graduated in 2003. I had planned to stay in NYC for a few more years, but do to circumstances beyond my control, my wife (well, fiancee at the time) ended up moving to Amherst, MA in the late summer of 2003.
After years of living around Yankees fans, I was very willing to give the Red Sox a chance, but I quickly soured on their fans for many of the reasons Grant mentioned. What really sealed the deal, though, was the ALDS. If you’ll recall, 2003 was a year before the Red Sox won the World Series, but that season, they came from behind to beat the A’s in the ALDS.
Well, after their last two ALDS victories, there were widespread riots on the UMass campus in Amherst. We actually lived on the campus, and if you went outside on those nights, you could immediately hear a distant roar. Bonfires were set, beer bottles were shattered everywhere, and a number of cars – including those of several of my wife’s co-workers – were overturned. All for a fucking ALDS victory.
At the time, it was sort of the definitive statement of how pathetic the Red Sox were. Sports victory-related riots are always obnoxious and indefensible, but these seemed especially egregious coming after a mere ALDS victory. So not only were the fans obnoxious and destructive, they were also pathetic and had terribly low standards. I often told the story as an illustration of why the Red Sox were losers and would always be losers. And, indeed, they went on to defeat at the hands of the Yankees in the ALCS shortly thereafter.
And then they won the World Series just a year later. So above all that, they made me look stupid. That’s just rude.
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Only one thing to say..
Screw MLB and TBS.
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I liked....
Chip Carey and Steve Stone when they went anti-Cubs, got the hornets nest all riled up ready for the cannibalization of the team and Tribune Co. and that ultimate winter of loathing and discontent a while back.
Now I just wish a group of Hannibal Lecter’s would attack the broadcasting booth’s en masse to rid us of Chip and Buck. I didn’t know the Red Sox also specialized in network fluffing, but I now see why we’re also hit with all the Cialis and Viagra commericals on TBS in-between innings.
it's always noonan somewhere
agreed
Adopted Giant: Aaron King
Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat
P.S. I Love Matt Cain. but only hetero-ly
I only hated it because just as the rally started the DVR switched over to “The Office”.
Me being "Vic The Savvy Technonerd Plumber " I didn’t know how to stop it. My son , who does , was unresponsive to my plaintive bleating…and then I said "What the hell , that game was toast anyway…no WAY they’ll come back…it’ll NEVER happen…
So actually the hate started this morning when I saw the news.
"Ain't got a hope in Hell - that's my belief." - Bon Scott
by victor frankenstein on Oct 17, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I endorse this post
My second loyalty was also the Red Sox. Back in ‘86, when I was in the fifth grade, my best friend and I made a $5 dollar bet (hey it was a lot back then for me) on the World Series with me picking Boston. To tell you the truth, I don’t know why I liked them, maybe I had a soft spot for underdogs or Roger Clemens or something. Anyways since then I always liked them. Then they won in 2004. The funny thing is you never really hate a team (unless its the Dodgers), you always seem to hate the fans. Probably pre-2004, I hated Yankees because of their fans during their dynasty, but I must admit Boston Red Sox fans probably are the most annoying.
Watching the Phillies clinch the other night in LA, I did find myself very happy, but when I saw their fans, I didn’t feel like jumping up at my TV and yelling “Suck it!” I hate to admit but I kind of felt sorry for them (or at least Alyssa Milano).
There is one thing I will give Red Sox nation and that is they have moxy. Down 5 runs on the brink of elimination, they stood and cheered for their team until the end. Sure the Ortiz and Drew homeruns do help in the hope department, but I am starting to question whether I would do the same for the Giants. It is an annoying fanbase, but it is a loyal fanbase. Damn you Red Sox Nation, damn you for making me question my own loyalty!
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by WilliamVanLandingham on Oct 17, 2008 1:27 PM PDT reply actions
Stood up and cheered for their team until the end?
Yeah, all 1500 of them that hadn’t left after the 6th inning.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Oct 17, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
but it is a loyal fanbase
And those aren’t the annoying ones. The “true fans” for all teams are usually awesome. It’s the other significant majority that sucks.
And the Annoying thing about the Cubs, Red Sox, Yankee’s and Dodgers is that the “true fan” is a much smaller percentage of the overall fanbase.
It at least seems that way. People probably say that about the Giants, too – but fuckem.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Oct 17, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
From reading the news stories, it sounds like, paradoxically, the home losses in Games 3 and 4 reduced the demand for tickets by the corporate types, so the Game 5 crowd was more comprised of “true” Sox fans as opposed to the bandwagoners.
But of course I had a previous engagement and missed watching the game entirely, so what do I know.
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Well
I’m lukewarm on the issue.
In 2004, I spent 4 days in boston in August. That town’s dedication to baseball really impressed me. I immediately started to pay attention to the Red Sox, and got really swept up in that year’s ALCS.
So at that point, I was a Red Sox fan. I knew the team pretty intimately and was really into it.
But then, things changed. JD went to the Yankee’s, Bill Mueller and Kevin Millar left, and it just wasn’t the same anymore.
Bronson “I’ll bean anyone” Arroye and Pedro Martinez left – it just wasn’t the same group of “idiots.”
So my FairweatherFandom faded. Then they started just winning everything in site and became “that team.”
I was really bummed when they destroyed the Rockies last year, and that solidified my Red Sox dislike.
I’ve now come full circle, and I root against the Red Sox. While last night was compelling baseball, and was probably “good for baseball” and all that, I wasn’t happy about it. It would have been a lot better if the Ray’s had won it in extras.
Had it been an elimination game for the Ray’s, I would have been furious.
Of course, if the Red Sox make it into the series (they won’t) it would make it really really easy for me to root for the Phillies.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
I, like Grant, was a Red Sox backer before ‘04. I wasn’t by any means a fan of them, but I at least tolerated the team. We all know the rest of the story. I do anyway.
I imagine it plays out a little like the first book of Eathsea. That would at least explain the hideous scars on your face.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 17, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m willing to bet the Red Sox blog post about last night’s game doesn’t have any Ursula K. LeGuin references.
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And there will be even more once I finish the trilogy!
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by howtheyscored on Oct 17, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
You know it’s not just a trilogy anymore, right? She wrote a fourth book in the early 90s, and more recently wrote a short story collection and another novel.
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I realize that, but my understanding is that those stories standalone from the original story arc, so I don’t like to lump them all together.
My understanding could be wrong.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 17, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really. Tehanu picks up pretty directly from the end of The Farthest Shore, and The Other Wind explores the land of the dead, which plays a big role in the original trilogy.
They are very different in tone, though. They’re meant to be for adults, unlike the original trilogy. Some folks who love the original trilogy don’t care for the newer stuff, from what I understand. I’m a fan of all of them, though.
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Ah, I had been misinformed, then. Since I’ve only read A Wizard of Earthsea, my research into the rest had only been cursory.
Maybe I’ll just think of it as a trilogy the same way that Hitchhikers Guide is a trilogy. You know Eion Colfer has been contracted to write another HGttG?
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by howtheyscored on Oct 17, 2008 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
God our bullpen sucked in '04
Just saying.
Anyway, bandwagons are most assuredly cyclical. It used to be that we rooted for the Red Sox to beat the Yankees because we all hated the Yankees. Then the Red Sox essentially became the Yankees and now we’re rooting for Tampa Bay to beat the Red Sox and the Yankees because we hate the Red Sox and the Yankees.
Four or five years from now, the Rays will be a perennial playoff team, you’ll see Rays gear everywhere, they will come to AT&T and their fanbase will be louder than ours, and we’ll all be jumping out of our shoes cheering on those upstart Blue Jays.
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 17, 2008 1:35 PM PDT reply actions
Way ahead of you
I’ve been cheering for the Blue Jays since 1987!
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I’ve actually never been to a game. I’ve visited Toronto a few times, but never when the Jays were in town.
They became my favorite AL team, actually, because my Little League team in 1987 was the Blue Jays, and we won our league championship. A very sensible reason to support a team, obviously.
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Count me as another member of the McC Blue Jays Fan Club, also because of Little League. Though we didn’t have much success on the field, I did get a default AL team to root for.
If not the Jays, a close second would be the Mariners, because: A) they are a west coast team not called the A’s or Angels, and B) they haven’t won anything either, so no “Nation” of annoying bandwagon fans
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 17, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
The Mariners are okay in my book. I love the city of Seattle and my favorite player is Ichiro.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm with you
100%. I was sad when the Giants signed Zito because I wanted them to use that money the next year to sign Ichiro. It turned out to be a moot point though.
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Mute point.
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I can’t except this.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 18, 2008 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions
this
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Bill Singer = world’s biggest ass.
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I used to like the Mariners more than I do now. Seattle is my third favorite American city, after San Francisco and New York. But early in the decade, there was a really obnoxious Mariners fan on an web message board I participate in. He was sort of an ass in general, but he was particularly bad when it came to baseball, mainly because he thought he was an expert and he really wasn’t. He was IRATE that Troy Glaus made the All-Star Game in Seattle over David Bell, for example, even though Glaus was better in almost every category. And he was just so incredibly smug the year the Mariners had their great season, and then every year after that, he was CONVINCED that the Mariners had made great acquisitions and would dominate the next year, whether or not they actually had.
So now I tend to want the Mariners to lose just to annoy him. Oh well.
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I’ve always liked the Blue Jays. Actually, I’ve had a fondness for any Canadian team for some reason.
I would debate that
the Red Sox have become the Yankees. The Red Sox spend a great deal of money, but nowhere near what the Yankees spend. The core of the Red Sox is either home-grown or acquired by trade. The Red Sox do not buy teams the way the Yankees do. That is why I hate the Yankees and do not hate the Red Sox.
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When the Yankees were winning the World Series every year, you could say much the same about them – Jeter, Posada, Rivera, Pettitte, Soriano, Bernie Williams, and others were all home-grown, and guys like Tino Martinez, Scott Brosius, and Paul O’Neill were acquired via trade or modest free agent contract.
Of course, in both cases, huge free agent signings also played a part (Roger Clemens for the Yankees, Curt Schilling for the Red Sox, etc.), and in both cases, if they hadn’t had huge payrolls to work with, they wouldn’t have been able to afford to KEEP their homegrown players long enough to win multiple World Series (see: Montreal Expos).
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Curt Schilling
was not a FA. They acquired him by trade.
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Okay, you’re right. Substitute Manny Ramirez. Or Pedro Martinez. Yeah, I know they traded for Martinez – but immediately they signed him to the biggest contract ever given to a pitcher at the time.
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Remember that the Giants
also signed an expensive FA named Bonds. At the time it was the largest contract ever. There is nothing wrong with signing FAs. My compaint with the Yankees is they sign expensive free agents to sit on the bench so that they can have depth. No other team does that.
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Did I said there was something inherantly wrong with that? No. I just said that the Red Sox current construction is comparable to that of the Yankees back when they were winning the World Series every year. It’s silly to be indignant over one and ignore the other.
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I'm not indignant
but I do believe you are cherry-picking. Just because there once was a Yankee roster that was close to being reasonable is not the same as other teams being like the Yankees. But even then they were paying big money to guys to sit on the bench.
All of the following were on the 2000 Yankees roster as non-starters:
David Justice
Clay Bellinger
Jose Vizcaino
Glenallen Hill
Luis Sojo
Jose Canseco
Chris Turner
Luis Polonia
Jim Leyritz
Alfonso Soriano
Ryan Thompson
Wilson Delgado
Lance Johnson
Felix Jose
Roberto Kelly
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I’m not sure what your point is. Soriano was, at that point, a rookie getting a cup of coffee, and most of the rest of those guys were washed up veterans or nobodies who were probably best suited to be backups.
And, y’know, the Yankees are hardly the only team to employ a lot of washed up veterans (ahem).
This whole conversation is bizarre, though. The Yankees are my most hated team, next to the Dodgers. How you got me to sort of defend them is quite an accomplishment!
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Sorry for the late reply
My computer at home is a pos Dell and it is in for repair.
My point in posting that list was to point out the number of well-paid veterans that the Yankees could afford to have sit on the bench. You were cherry-picking again by bringing up Soriano. He is only on the list in the spirit of full disclosure; I just listed the entire non-starting roster. Soriano does stick out though as not being like most of the roster. But specifically, there are guys there that were starters on their previous teams, and most of them were acquired as FAs. Bellinger and Soriano are the only guys whose entire tenure was with the club (Leyritz had left and NY reacquired him). Washed up veterans are no rarity, but they usually play for other teams, not sit on the bench as insurance or pinch hit.
This whole thing started by your assertion that the Red Sox were as bad as the Yankees. I took exception to that, and have been trying to demonstrate that no one is as bad as the Yankees. The Red Sox do spend a lot of money, but it is the only way they can compete with the Yankees. The belief that the Red Sox are as bad as the Yankees irritates me. What are the options; losing?
Yeah the Rays won this year, but how much longer will they be around without their payroll burgeoning? MLB Traderumors has the Yankees trying to overwhelm CC Sabathia by offering 30% more than the other offers.
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I think you’re right about this. Though I hope the Rays don’t become unlikeable. I hope they retain their good young core and remain fun to watch.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
That place they play in
is no place to watch a baseball game.
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They might get a new stadium that looks like a sail! Oh boy!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean
Ahoy!
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I'm with Grant...
When the Sox came to AT&Whatever the fans were obnoxious.
They didnt have the same kind of harmless bravado the (then)
Cubs fans had…they were holier-than-thou.
I didn’t find many (any?) traveling Sox fans that weekend (it was
a Fri/Sat/Sun series if I remember correctly—with us winning Sat
and Sun). They were all my least favorite kind of fans—those that
leave a city, relocate to your city, and then tell you how great the
city they left is.
Then they won a couple of WSeries…bravo to the team (minus you
JD Drew—prick), but the fans, no thanks.
They say some players get out of bed hitting; Pablo Sandoval doesn't wait that long
Don’t forget to rescind your bravos for Curt Schilling, too.
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my first encounter with bosox fans came in about 1982, when I spent a couple of weeks of my summer at the “Mike Andrews baseball school” in Waltham, MA. We played some ball, laughed at each others’ accents, and had very little clue that girls were the missing ingredient to our summer. Ah, to be a 10 year-old baseball junkie. Anyway, if I remember correctly, the Sox were doing pretty well, but I was struck by the fact that every last kid (and adult) I met “knew” that the Red Sox would fall apart before the end of the summer. I guess they right, in those days.
that game last night sucked.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 17, 2008 1:53 PM PDT reply actions
and I'll tell you why
it just reminded me so much of Game 6, and not the Buckner Game 6.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 17, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Chain of Fan Suckitude
1. Dodger Fans
2. Yankee Fans
3. Red Sox Fans
Molina's gonna test his arm...
by Victorious Secret on Oct 17, 2008 1:58 PM PDT reply actions
i dunno...
i’m almost willing to move red sox fans up a spot. I was at a Nationals game this summer and there were a couple Red Sox fans sitting behind me… which was fine, I’m a fanicist or anything, but during the entire Nationals game (playing the Astros, so not interleague play) all they did was listen to the radio and shout updates to everyone around about how the Red Sox were doing, what player was up to bat, how they were doing that year… it was obnoxious, to say the least.
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by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 17, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I know I’m in the minority, but I’ve rarely had a Yankees fan act like an ass to me. Maybe I know all the cool ones. I don’t know. But I’ve had many more Red Sox fans behave like complete dickheads than fans of any other team.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
same here
most yankee fans i’ve met have actually been alright. I think they’re starting to realize just how much of an advantage they have payroll-wise, and it’s killing their fun a little. Red Sox fans haven’t noticed yet
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by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 17, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I lived in NYC for the tail end of their dominance (2000-2003), and found them to be completely insufferable.
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I lived in Boston
and the Yankee fans that drove up to see them play at Fenway were some of the most obnoxious fans I ever encountered. Especially post-yankee victory. Although the travelling Mets fans I ran into were pretty bad too.
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hmm that’s probably true, we get some pretty tame Yankee fans in California (both around the bay and down in san diego). Though I have to say, Padres fans are pretty annoying too. I’m seeing a pattern…
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by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 17, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually I'm surprised
at what i am hearing about Padre fans. Most of the San Diegans I know are pretty laid back, and I’m always thinking they should get more excited about their team.
This is the problem with anecdotal evidence, I guess.
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they’re laid back to the point that they aren’t really fans… until their team rises up and finally beats the giants. Then they’re out in the thousands waiting to smack talk like their team is headed to the world series. That year they won the division with a record barely above .500? From the talk down here, they might as well have cancelled the world series, cause the padres were winning it no matter what. The padres announcers are very good examples of the generic padres fans down here – they’re annoying and make you mad cause you can’t find a remote to mute them
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by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 17, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I got an email from a Padres fan, someone I’ve never met, completely unsolicited, inviting me to an anti-Barry Bonds party at Petco Park, with the words “in case you’re not doing anything.”
That doesn’t seem laid back to me. That just seems like a dickhead with too much time on his hands.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Other than some baseball ignorance (my New York cousins who are Yankee fans love Jeter but hate A-rod because he is “selfish” and isn’t "clutch), I haven’t had any problems with Yankee fans. Then again I haven’t come into contact with as many as others may have.
Oy. When I was at the last Giants game of the season a few weeks ago, a couple of people sitting behind me spent a couple of innings solemnly discussing how A-Rod isn’t a good player for just those reasons, and how Jeter is beloved by all, even people who don’t like the Yankees. I wanted to vomit with rage.
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definitely
they’re #2, now. I might even stick Cubbies fans in there at #3 ahead of Yankees fans. Did the Sox lose the (rebroadcast) game, at least?
For me,
the tide turned in the 2003 postseason…
Prior to 2003, Sox fans were pretty hapless. Like Cubs fans, but their team was often close enough to get stuffed by the Yankees, and lets face it – it’s hard not to like someone who hates the Yankees. (Mets fans also fall into this category… BUT see below/*
But I was working at at SSF small pharma company that had a strong Cambridge population. What got me was when then beat the As (not a team I give a whit about) in 5 games in the ALDS after being down 2-0, the fans were full of arrogance, condescension – how the Sox deserved to wins, how the weakling, scrappy As had no business challenging their obviously superior team, yadda ,yadda. In short – they became Yankee fans – ASSUMING that championships belong to them. A Giants fan, in this position would say something like “great! stupid As leaving us to get crushed by the Yankees again! Bastards.”
And you know, it was vaguely satisfying to see them cut down YET AGAIN by the evil empire Yankees. At that point, I became neutral in the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry.
THEN THEY ACTUALLY WON. Basically, by becoming Yankees North – all those years of bitching about payroll.
/* Mets fans are are hapless, because they have had their heart broken many times, and they have the courage of there convictions not to switch over to the Yanks. HOWEVER, if the Mets win anything they’re fans go all Red Sox Fan on you… Luckily, in a year or so the team collapses again and they are hapless.
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Oh and yeah I’m with you zenbitz. Now they are the Evil Empire—bloated payroll, buying up all the FAs, winning all the time. But NO NOT US! NOPE! WE’RE FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT! No you’re not, assholes.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I never even gave a crap about the Red Sox. Before the 2004 season they were just sort of…there. A team I knew existed but didn’t care much about. I was as indifferent about them as I’ve ever been about anything in my life.
As Grant said, the turning point for me was that series in San Francisco. I likened Red Sox fans to ants. You find one and squish it, and it’s just a minor annoyance. Then you see two or three scrambling around and you squish them too. Pretty soon you find the trail of ants and next, you learn you’re sitting on the whole damn ant hill. You’re disgusted and horrified.
Some fairly epic run-ins with obnoxious Red Sox fans who thought their team was the center of the universe cemented my hatred. The female fans? Good god. They are so goddamn insufferable. I used to run a LiveJournal community dedicated to fangirling hot male athletes and after a while there it just became all Red Sox all the time. I called out several similar communities for letting the bias take over.
The team also stocked itself with annoying and asshat-esque players: Manny Ramirez, Johnny Damon, JD Drew, to the new classics of Jonathan Papelbon, whom I’m sorry, needs to shut his fucking mouth and just sit the fuck down.
I’m sick to fucking death of the assumption that everyone loves the Red Sox. And it sucks. I’d like to just go on about my business and hate the Dodgers like good Giants fans do. But I can’t do that as long as that godawfully annoying team and their fans exist.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:20 PM PDT reply actions
Curt Schilling. How can I forget the king of the insufferable assholes on that team!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
And....
Just making more insufferable statements on behalf of bigger a-holes like Dumbya!
Schilling is going to hate being out of the spotlight. He might have to send press releases to his kids to keep sharp.
it's always noonan somewhere
The game last night was absolutely unbearable. I’ve hated the Sawx for the same reason, the fans are UNBEARABLE. I was watching the game on TBS last night and my roommate who barely follows baseball and is from Ohio was cheering so loudly and annoyingly during the comeback that I wanted to stab him in the eye. Both eyes. I’ve never even heard about him talk about the Sawx before last night and all of a sudden it was YEAHHH UGH
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 17, 2008 2:30 PM PDT reply actions
And, heck, you know there are a bunch of Tampa fans who’ve been living and dying with their team since its inception.
If by “a bunch” you mean “4*”, I agree.
- The fifth passed away last season.
Zooperstars, they quack me up!
This one of the reasons
why I am glad they won the division, had some success in the playoffs, but don’t want them to go any farther; not until their fans support them better and start playing in a decent stadium.
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I don’t have any particular love or hate for most AL Teams, except the Yankees. The Red Sox are slowly climbing the list toward extreme dislike, and I do hold a small grudge against the LAA’s (Angels). I do like the Twins for some strange reason.
I wouId like to see the Ray’s make it to the series. It’s a great story, and a series win could swing the tide / vote for building “the sail” park. The Tampa area could have four games of the WS and the Super Bowl within four calendar months. That should be enough of lift to their economy to get something done.
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so by this logic
the Giants would have been an undesirable participant in the Fall Classic in, say, 1989. Consider the attendance at this random game during the September pennant chase
It's a mark against them,
yes, but at least they played outdoors on real grass, and they were not a 10-year -old expansion team.
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I actually tend toward your line of thinking as far as teams and ballparks go. I want the playoffs to look right, I guess, and I’d prefer teams that have been around long enough to have rivals. Must be some vestigial conservatism from another life.
At the same time, as a former Expos fan (where we had the worst stadium anywhere), I tend to take what Grant wrote seriously: there really are a considerable number of guys and gals who have been fighting for the Rays (or D-Rays) ever since they arrived in the league. They’ve been watching (or listening to) every game, and, to this point, they’ve really only had some unlikely winning against the big, bad Yanks to quench their thirst for success. Gotta feel good for them if they can get there.
I actually preferred Stadé Olympique to some of the other awful stadiums out there, because it was awful in its very own, unique way. And actually kind of cool from the outside. I’ll take that over a generically ugly park like Veterans Stadium.
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I heartily agree with this. It was like the Plan 9 of Outer Space of stadiums. And I had my first ballpark beer at the age of 19 there.
I always felt the similarly about Candlestick, incidentally. It was very generic in its uglieness, but it had a very unique brand of misery that set it apart from other lousy stadiums.
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I saw 2 games there,
and I enjoyed them. The first time the roof was open, which was much better than the second time which was after they had closed it permantly. It was a great experience though. My favorite thing was one beer vendor who shouted out “Yi, biere froid. Cold Beer”; a very different baseball experience.
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When I went there were probably 4000 fans, but man, those were the most intense 4000 fans in all of sports. Covered in paint and wigs and pounding drums and shouting weird things in French.
wow. that sounds eerily correct. They would also yell “Peanuts, Popcorn, Cracker Jack”. Don’t think they did that one in French – though something about “arachides” rings a bell too – but it was certainly flavoured the French-Canadian accent.
I also remember
some lovely female ushers.
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Oh, and also...
I’m still too bitter over the near-move of the Giants to Florida to really be willing to root for the Rays. I mean, I want them to beat the Red Sox, but after that, let’s go Phillies!
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I just keep coming up with reasons to hate them
Here’s another one!
Boston fans really loathe Barry Bonds. I’ve had several of them tell me they hate him more than any Yankees player. I get that there’s a lot of anger and passionate reaction to the PED saga of the last few years, but when has the man ever played against the team and therefore, ever actually affected the fans? Six times in the last five years or so?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:34 PM PDT reply actions
Now you are scraping the bottom
Yankee fans, Cubs fans, Dodger fans, D’back fans…et al, all hate Barry Bonds.
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At least the fans of other NL teams regularly see Bonds. I really don’t see why the fans of an AL team would even waste their energy.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s my experience that A’s fans are the most self-righteous in their Bonds hate. Which always drives me crazy, considering every single one of their biggest offensive stars in my lifetime (Canseco, McGwire, Giambi, Tejada) is linked to steroids.
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It was that self-righteousness in Red Sox fans that really pissed me off. They were all “at least OUR players are clean! At least OUR players don’t cheat on their wives!” Keep telling yourselves that, guys.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Wade Boggs
I did like how the oppoing teams fans chanted “Marlo”.
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Honorable mention: Padres fans.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, me too
Another one: the whole curse thing. Fans who won’t shut the hell up about their alleged curse drive me batty.
Believing in a curse isn’t just a matter of your team never winning it all – who ever heard of the White Sox being cursed? And they went longer than the Red Sox. And while we Giants fans bitch and moan, we don’t claim a curse – even though we have plenty of mythology available for one (we could claim to be cursed from the move from New York – the crushing 1-0 defeat in 1987 – the 1989 earthquake – the final day of 1993 – the Game 6 collapse in 2002). Being “cursed” isn’t just about losing – it’s about feeling self-important about it. And that sense of self-importance is exactly what makes Red Sox fans unbearable.
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Well, he did say that he would never play in Boston because it’s too racist for him. I can’t really blame them for hating him.
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
Personally I don’t think he was incorrect in saying that.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Calling a whole city racist is problematic , IMO
..so allow me to present Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain as two sweet, sweet bottles of warming hooch.
My wife, who is Chinese-American, has lived in the Boston suburbs and Virginia (both urban and rural), and according to her, racism is much, much worse in Boston than anything she ever encountered in rural Virginia. So.
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Like Grant
I also attended that game. I liked both the Red Sox and the Giants. I considered myself more of a Giants fan then but I was curious as to how I would actually feel when the game started. It surprised me a little bit how vehemently I wanted the Giants to crush the Sox. On the other hand I felt the same way about the A’s. I hated how the A’s fans came into our park and booed our players. A’s fans are some of the worse in my book.
But I am still a Sox fan. They fight the evil empire of the Yankees, and they do it the right way; not buying champioships the way the Yankees do. They have a high payroll; they can afford to because they sell out every game. I also dissociate the team from the fans. I love the make up of that team. I love ther approach at the plate. They play the game the right way.
There is a lot of resentment against the Red Sox purely because they win, which is kind of small and mean.
I can’t root for the Rays. I like them, but they are a 10-something-year-old expansion team, that their fans don’t support very well, and they play in that godawful stadium on that ridiculously hideous rug. No thanks.
Go Sox
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That game that Schmidt pitched against them was pure poetry. I’ll probably remember that for the rest of my life.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Payroll
I’ve never hated a team for spending a ton of money, as long as it got them results. What I hate more is when a team spends a ton of money and sucks. Orioles, Mets, etc. It’s just a huge waste and makes the entire franchise look like jerks.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I really, really, really
Love it when national league teams do this. I mean, other than us.
I don’t hate the Yanks and Red Sox for spending money… I hate their fans for denying that it brings them championships, not “Yankee Mystique” or or…Baked Beans or whatever
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I agree with that,
but I would add the Yankees practice where Steinbrenner supplemented payroll with profits from his other businesses.
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My whole thing with payroll is this: I’d be thrilled if the Giants spent like the Yankees and won a bunch of titles thanks to the spending. How can I criticize another team for doing that? I get more angry when the Giants spend spend spend and get shit in return. Hi Zito.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes,
and this is one of the reasons why I like the Red Sox. I think they are one of the smartest run teams in baseball. I have no problem with the Yankees spending money, but I think it should be within reason. $200M is not within reason and to me it smacks of unfairness. But it does look like the luxury tax thing is paying off to the smaller markets, which is why spending money doesn’t bother me like it used to.
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I’ve admitted here before that I love how the Red Sox built their farm system and how they develop talent. They are one of the best run teams in the game.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
And I can respect your dislike
for the Red Sox, because it is based on their obnoxious fans. What I don’t agree with is not liking them because they win, or saying they have become the Yankees.
I do tend to root for the underdog, but that is not the same as rooting against the overdog, if that’s a word. And I disagree that they have become the Yankees. They still have a long way to go before they become the Yankees.
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I will go even further to say that my perception of the change in the “Red Sox Nation” (damn i hate that phrase) came between Game 7 of the ALCS and Game 1 of the WS, 2004.
Like many, I was captivated by the Red Sox and their struggle to rid the world of Yankee influence. I think that after the riveting LCS in 2003, Boston gained a LOT of collateral (bandwagon) fans that the folded in to form their “Red Sox Nation (shudder). So when 2004 came around and there was a second shot at "redemption”, I, like a lot of other people I knew — almost none of them avid baseball fans, by the way — got swept up in the hype and drama of that years’ LCS. And it was a lot of fun to watch. And when Boston pulled it out in seven, a lot of people – casual baseball fans – celebrated and kinda went in tow different directions, based on my own personal observations. Either this this causal fan got up and said, “Well, that was exciting, back to real life.” Or two, the causal fan bought into the whole thing and became the Jimmy Fallon character on SNL all of a sudden, OMG, SAWKS, MANNY, etc. BECAUSE, and this is a day after, I see dozens and dozens of Boston caps – and I live in an area that is fairly sports-team appareal nuetral, where people don’t normally try to congeal their identity with the help of organized sport. This was immediate, within days.
The place I normally would watch baseball was this neighborhood bar that all my friends used generally as our living room. It was technically a sports bar, but few of my friends actually are into sport in general. I used to watch Giants games there in a corner on a little throne, it was fun, and my my friend was from Fresno and he’s a Giants fan, so cool. Well, we turn up to watch the World Series and suddenly — and inexplicably — the bar has somehow wasn’t in Portland, Oregon anymore, but Portland, Maine. I will admit that 90% of these people — the loudest — were not the long suffering Sox fan you heard so much about over the years. Doris Kearns Goodwin was not in the house. But it gave me a picture, in a short amount of time, that I now hated the Red Sox fan, casual, and collaterally, the true, because I knew where this was going if they won that series. Sadly, I was proven right.
Bla bla bla.
I don’t think they understand that once the season ends, the bandwagon ends. I love the Rays for what they did this season and I’m bandwagoning the hell out of them, but am I going to go post on DRays Bay and buy a Longoria jersey and say I’ve been a fan since way back when? Hell no. I don’t want to make an ass of myself and I don’t want to alienate the actual fans of the team. When I adopted the Brewers as my second team they were still crappy and I actually had a real interest in the team. I get how exciting it can be to get sucked in to the madness, but once the party’s over, go home.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
sawks love
as somebody mentioned earlier, i hate the fact that the media assume that everyone loves the red sox. the best and most annoying example of this is espn the magazine, which leads off every issue with a bill simmons column. the guy writes about nothing but the patriots, celtics, and sawks, like he and the magazine think i or any other casual fan is going to care about what boston does.
OT: the countdown widget
I just noticed it, and it made me vaguely nauseous. 171 days is a lot of days, man.
I lived in Massachusetts for three years when I was a kid, so I always had a little residual Red Sox fandom in me.
But I’ve taken in too much Red Sox information, and I’ve watched too many people who care too much and act like I should too. That mild fannishness died a long time ago.
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Wow, I guess my hate for the Red Sox must have started during that series too. I remember being upset that year when they came back on the Yankees. I didn’t connect that series to my resentment.
I attended the next game where Noah in like his 2nd start outpitched Pedro. One of the few games I’ve attended since I moved away where they weren’t playing the Dodgers. The Red Sox fans were taking pride in trying to take over the home field advantage. I don’t remember the circumstances but the Giants fans went nuts & I remember yelling like a maniac to Keith Foulke to sit down because his services weren’t needed today. I really hated the Sox fans that day.
Don't think, it could only hurt the ballclub.
Grant, couldn't have been worse than this game
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We got absolutely pounded in front of jeering Sox fans who booed Bonds like you wouldn’t believe. This, of course, after I had boasted to all of my friends that we were going to sweep and dominate. Of course, we got swept. $65/seat for shitty seats in the right field corner.
72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!
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Oh, and I forgot...
Julian friggin’ Tavarez won.
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Because of Jim Rice, I became a fan of the Red Sox that I will stick to my dying day. But I really hate all the crap about “Red Sox Nation”. I’m a fan of the team. I loved Rice, Yaz to Mo Vaughn. I hate bandwagon jumpers who really wouldn’t know the difference between David Ortiz and Josh Beckett. I ain’t part of no fucking “Nation”. I don’t give a fuck if you people hate me for liking the Red Sox but they are my team.
(Btw, if it really bothers people a Red Sox fan is here, Grant could feel free to delete my account and I’ll disappear into the sunset)
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I’m kinda with you.
I’ve met a number of fiercely annoying RSox fans, but the team has a lot of my favorite non-Giant players on it. I don’t really give a crap about who their fans are.
That said, I just can’t root against the Rays so far this year, though the Phillies have now endeared themselves to me mightily.
I went to go watch The Daily Show/Colbert, thinking the lead was safe!
I get back and the game is tied!
I was not pleased. Everyone else here was though.
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I was also not pleased. To be honest, I don’t really want anything to stop the Ray’s current momentum (current only prior to last night’s game, maybe). It’s just so damn fun to watch.
And hot damn, Evan Longoria is good.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Oct 17, 2008 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Rays FTW but....
I turned on the game in the bottom of the seventh to get the score and then ended up exhausted today because I couldn’t turn it off. Partly it was the joy of listening to Jon Miller and partly the joy of a great comeback. I want to see the Rays in the Series but the Sox don’t bother me the way the Yankees do. I could care less about the fans. It’s the nature of the team and how it’s run that colors my view. Ever since the days of Bill Lee, the Sox have always had a least one player I really liked. But none of it is real baseball because of the DH so I want the Phils to crush whichever team they face.
Listening to the game on the radio made me realize how much I miss listening to Jon Miller call a Giants game. :/
Funny, it reminded me of how slow Joe Morgan is.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 17, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Average video game.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 20, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Subpar board game
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Mediocre line of trucker hats
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Ahh, how I loathe the Sox, and it’s all because of their fans. I went to school in Boston, and before I moved there, the Sox were my AL team. My mom’s family is from New Hampshire, so it was kind of understandable. And up till the point they won the World Series in ‘04, I was a fan. We had a game watch in our dorm room when they clinched and I was there celebrating with everyone. But as soon as that night ended, my opinion changed. Maybe it was my one room-mate who claimed that Theo Epstein was the most over-rated GM in the game. Maybe it was the way that every Sox loss is greeted by calls that the sky was falling. Maybe it was watching games on NESN where Remy and Orsillo would refuse to discuss the game for innings on end. Maybe it was the fact that my room-mates would rather watch their 2004 postseason DVD than any baseball game that didn’t involve the Sox.
Oh, and Yankees fans are douches, too – at least in my experience. I remember having classes when the two teams were playing and professors would have to restrict Sox and Yankees fans to opposite sides of the lecture hall. Where Sox fans were usually ignorant, Yankees fans were pompous and insufferably arrogant. OMG, Bernie Williams!
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