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Projection recap: Matt Cain

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We got 32 different predictors when Grant kicked off the Matt Cain projection thread on March 17th.  Here's Matt's actual 2008 stats, vs. our community projection:

                                 ERA         IP         K        BB         W          L        HRA

Matt Cain 2008:    3.76     217.2     186      91          8         14        19

          McCoven:    3.50     200.0     182     69.5     11.2     11.8     16.8

Individual categories:

ERA:  Collectively, we thought Matt would do slightly better than he actually did.  Guesses ranged from a low of 2.81(JRPhillips) to a high of 5.56(zenbitz).  Scottsdale and sharksrog tie for the prize with a prediction of 3.75, just edging out Poe and Lyle with guesses of 3.78 each. 

IP: We underestimated Matt's innings by 17 2/3. Zenbitz, clearly not feeling the love, predicted a low of 40 innings - he predicted Matt's season would end June 1st; highest guesses, and therefore the tying winners (by one-third of an inning), were jponry and scotterduder with 220.  Barely losing out was cain1stballothof with 215. 

K: This was our best group effort, missing by only four strikeouts. Yay, us!  Guessed ranged from 36(zenbitz, naturally) to 218(jponry). Lowest non-zenbitz guess was Poe's 162. I did my job did, in fact, do his job and accurately predicted 186! Just behind were nostocksjustbonds, redseal, and Scottsdale with 185, and cain1stballothof with 187.  Takimoto and howtheyscored came close with 184, and I was within hailing distance at 189.

BB: We were a bit optimistic on this one. The highest guess, 88 by Takimoto, came the closest.  Next highest was 83 by i did my job.  Lowest was 30 by zenbitz (he of the shortened Cain season).  Lowest non-zenbitz guess was 45 by JRPhillips.

WINS: We predicted an 11-12 season for Cain (11.2 and 11.8, more specifically), so we were slightly optimistic. Highest guess was 16 by cain1stballothof, appropriately enough; zenbitz foresaw only 1 win in Matt's 8-week season.  JRPhillips, despite predicting an excellent 190 strikeouts and 45 walks, thought Matt's record would only be 3-18!  Groug was the winner with a pefect prediction of 8.  SLOisLonely... predicted 9.  Evan, jponry, and Natto guessed 10, and Takimoto guessed 6.

LOSSES: We only envisioned 11.8 losses, rather than 14.  Highest loss guesses were 21 each by i did my job and Takimoto.  Lowest guess was zenbitz's 3 (see disclaimer); lowest guess otherwise was 7 by thedomster, WilliamVanLandingham, and Cainer.  A perfect 14 was predicted by the pride of BC, jponry.  Close, but no cigar, were SLOisLonely and sharksrog with 15; nostocksjustbonds, tedfordfan, nvsfg, and scotterduder had 13.

HRA: We underestimated this as well.  Smallest non-zenbitz prediction was 7 by Takimoto, thedomster, & WilliamVanLandingham.  Highest was 22 by Evan and tedfordfan, followed by 21 from sharksrog, nostocksjustbonds, & Kitspool.  Four baseball experts emerged from this group, with pefect guesses of 19: groug, WilliamVanLandingham, scotterduder, and SLOisLonely.  Close behind were Scottsdale, nvsfg, and Little Napolean with 18, and out machine & Natto with 20.

Overall, it's hard to identify who won.  I thought that whoever came closest in the category we did worst in should be a leading candidate, and that's Takimoto's prediction of 88 walks (91 actual).  And he(she?) did well with IP 184(186) and Wins 6(8).  But Losses 21(14) and HRA 7(19) weren't too close.  Here are my top candidates - who wants to plead their case?  If I had to pick, I'd say groug was the winner; he got the HRA and Wins exactly, missed the Losses by 1, underguessed the Walks like most of us, and was reasonably close in ERA and IP.

                                 ERA         IP         K        BB         W          L        HRA

Matt Cain 2008:    3.76     217.2     186      91          8         14        19

groug:                    3.51      206        194      77          8         15        19

sharksrog:            3.75      210        165      75         12        15        21

nostocks:              3.81      203        185      83         11        13       21

Scottsdale:           3.75      203        185      75         14        10        18

tedfordfan:            3.88      211        176      72         13        13        22

Poe:                       3.78      188        162      65           7         12        17

out machine:        3.68      212        198      70         12         12        20

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Am I mad, in a coma, or back in time? Whatever's happened, it's like I've landed on a different planet. Now, maybe if I can work out the reason, I can get home.

by Lyle on Oct 17, 2008 9:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I disagree

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Oct 17, 2008 11:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

hey, I didn't do so bad.

Lyle, I like the autopsy on our projections. could you provide a link next time?

Bonds stands alone.

Proud adopted parent of future big league slugger Thomas Neal

by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 17, 2008 10:10 AM PDT   0 recs

here you go

The Denker bus is now bound for San Diego. Those who were passengers on it are now angrily stranded at a gas station in Modesto, CA. Not much about baseball here .

by oldjacket on Oct 17, 2008 10:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks, nostocks

I keep forgetting. I think I’m in too much of a hurry to finish and get it posted.

Am I mad, in a coma, or back in time? Whatever's happened, it's like I've landed on a different planet. Now, maybe if I can work out the reason, I can get home.

by Lyle on Oct 17, 2008 11:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I appreciate all the work you’ve done on these.

Adopted Son of in limbo Brad Hennessey. Beloved for a stolen base much like Dave Roberts

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 17, 2008 10:25 AM PDT   0 recs

+1

Proud adopter of Jason Jarvis: let's see YOU pass an online music course without cheating!

by Gaahl on Oct 17, 2008 1:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I swear

I didn’t make a silly injury prediction just to get my name mentioned 18 times in the post season prediction wrap-up thread.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN

by zenbitz on Oct 17, 2008 10:32 AM PDT   0 recs

FINALLY I WIN SOMETHING

Things are lookin’ up!

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Oct 17, 2008 11:05 AM PDT   0 recs

So what you're saying is

Everything’s coming up groug!

by Gumbercules86 on Oct 17, 2008 6:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes

Though technically, howie is the Milhousiest one here.

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Oct 17, 2008 7:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He has the flood pants to proove it.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear | McFAQ I & II

by Natto on Oct 17, 2008 7:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I had an extra o from this pack I got at Costco, so I thought I’d just stick it somewhere.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
comics | cartoons | Nattowear | McFAQ I & II

by Natto on Oct 17, 2008 7:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That’s a lie. Yo choo choo chooose it.

by rotorueter on Oct 17, 2008 11:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait..

I went back through the thread and it looks like you didn’t even post. Lyle actually read “groud” as you, “groug.” I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."

by WalrusMan on Oct 17, 2008 10:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually, looking through the post, I find it kinda hilarious that peripheral/performance wise, I predicted almost the exact same thing as PLUChris, but he said Cain’s record would be 14-8.

PEOPLE WHO WIN ARE WINNERS AND THAT MEANS ME AND NOT MATT CAIN

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Oct 17, 2008 10:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's He

And if I knew we were competing i wouldn’t have made a tongue in cheek 21 loss prediction. I think I also predicted three no-hitters, two of them being losses. damn me trying to be funny, i had a chance!

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Oct 17, 2008 11:35 AM PDT   0 recs

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