A few new trade names...

by The Thrill on Oct 11, 2008 1:19 PM PDT Comment 23 comments

Some clown from the Chicago tribune discusses the Giant's interest in trading for a bat. I've heard plenty of the Uggla rumors but have never heard of Derrek Lee being a possibility. I believe Konerko's name was tossed around before the trade deadline. Uggla seems reasonable if the Marlin's have a fire sale but I would not touch Konerko with a ten foot pole and think Derek Lee is heading down hill and will be worthless by the time this team contends.

I felt obligated to post this article since it mentioned Matt Cain and believe we need to keep talking about how ridiculous trading Cain would be until Sabean finally hears us.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-081010-phil-rogers-mlb-whispers,0,3109300.story

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Sabean has already stated that both Lincecum and Cain are untouchable. This looks to be more speculation rather than anything the Giants have really looked into.

There amass been plenty of articles written this spring about the stud shortstop Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum , as well as the fluid young outfielders and thirteen basemen Kevin Frandsen.
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by Natto on Oct 11, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Konerko for Rowand

White Sox want to unload Konerko and could use a CF. SF needs some power and could benefit from unloading Rowand’s monies.

by wilriv21 on Oct 11, 2008 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

This

Swisher can play first for the Sox. Rowand and his gamerness goes back to CF.

We get a guy who can actually hit 30 HR’s.

by Hobbes2d on Oct 13, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

we need a third baseman. I suppose Uggla could play 3rd, but his defense will be really bad there.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 11, 2008 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I’ve always liked Derrek Lee – I was really hoping the Giants would trade for him when the Marlins were shopping him several years back – but he’s getting up there in the years and starting to decline. Konerko’s gotten worse for three straight seasons – his OPS+ has fallen from 136 at his peak in 2005 to 103 in 2008 – which is really just not very good for a first baseman.

Plus, I’m perfectly okay with trying out Ishikawa and Sandoval at first.

Uggla might be more interesting, but I suspect we’d have to give up too much to get him.

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by jcb9 on Oct 11, 2008 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You know..

If we’re trading Cain we have to really get value back. That has to be either multiple semi-proven players or a huge proven bat. I think the best fit between those two guidelines is Prince Fielder. What does everyone think of that?

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by WalrusMan on Oct 11, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

ORIGINAL THOUGHTZ!

by rotorueter on Oct 11, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m going to call in to Sportsphone and suggest this right now!

by Natto on Oct 11, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

808-KNBR your thoughts!

by Ed Jew on Oct 11, 2008 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How come when he posts it it’s a good idea?

by Ulnar Maws on Oct 11, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You are trying to trap me sir.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 11, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trade off

I have very mixed emotions about trading a player who took a sweetheart contract as Matt did — and one who says he would like to spend his entire career in San Francisco. I’m not saying I wouldn’t trade him under any circumstances — Prince Fielder would be tough to pass up as an example — but to be honest, I feel when a player shows loyalty to his club, the club should return the favor.

by sharksrog on Oct 11, 2008 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

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by daveinexile on Oct 12, 2008 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by Moggeee on Oct 17, 2008 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Depends how they were registered.

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by daveinexile on Oct 17, 2008 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's Interesting....

I find it quite interesting that a writer for the Chicago Tribune mentions the Giants being interested in 2 aging and decline 1B who just happen to be on Chicago teams. Hmmmm….I think White Sox or Cubs fans would like nothing better than to get rid of Konerko and Lee.

Konerko could free up salary and could be replaced with Swisher. Cubs fans would like nothing better than to get rid of Lee and open up a spot for them to place Mark Texeira. I’m sorry, but I don’t see Sabean trading Matt Cain for Lee or Konerko (or Uggla for that matter). So, I call BS on the Lee and Konerko rumor.

Personally, I don’t think the Giants need to act desperate and do whatever they can to add power to the lineup. Honestly, I don’t think the Giants even need to make a move to fill 1B. I think a combo of Sandoval/TI could provide a solution at 1B next year.

The only immediate area of need that the Giants probably need to fill from outside the organization is 3B. I could see how Uggla could fit that bill, but I am not sure if I like the cost.

by Squire_Boone on Oct 11, 2008 2:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Correct in every detail...

Thanks – you saved me some typing.

by kar120c on Oct 12, 2008 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Konerko = roasted bread

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by oldjacket on Oct 11, 2008 4:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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by nvsfg on Oct 11, 2008 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It looked to me like Rogers was just assuming and had no solid info at all to say the Giants were interested in Lee or Konerko. The only thing that worried me was that the expression he used was that the Giants’ might “kick the tires” on them. Maybe he really did talk to Sabean!!

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by rxmeister on Oct 12, 2008 9:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

At the end of the day

At the end of the day, Brian has kicked the tires and done his due diligence. But what has he really accomplished? :)

Maybe if he looked under the hood.

by sharksrog on Oct 14, 2008 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Careful – people might think you are trying to start a lynch mob.

What do you mean wrong hood?

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by daveinexile on Oct 17, 2008 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dan Uggla has the weirdest splits ever.
vs Lefthanded .191, .310, .321
vs Righthanded pitchers .283, .377, .578

Uggla is no spring chicken (he’ll be 29 shortly) however he appears to be in a position to IMPROVE on his breakout year, based on splits. Also, Uggla did struggle( OPS .788 to .960) in the cavernous Dolphin stadium. Moving to AT&T may actually boost his numbers, because it would actually give him a shorter distance to right field (385 to 365). Uggla, if it was for the right price, would make tremendous sense for this team.;

by OmahaGiants on Oct 12, 2008 1:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs