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Matt Cain and other pitching notes

My sister sent me a text message about midnight announcing that 2008 would be "great." In the spirit of optimism, I present some cheery pitching-leader notes from the The Bill James Handbook 2008:

10th in ERA, Cain, 3.65
Seventh in Opponent BA, Cain, .235
Fourth in Pitches Per Start, Cain, 104.7
Seventh in Pitchers Per Start, Zito, 102.8
Sixth in Quality Starts, Cain, 22
Sixth in Opponent SLG, Cain, .366
Sixth in Opponent OPS, .678
Eighth in HR per Nine IP, Cain, 0.63
10th in Holds-Adjusted Save %, Hennessey, 86.5
Third in Relief Opponent BA vs LHB, Sanchez, .160
Fifth in Relief Opponent BA vs RHB, Wilson, .145
Second in Fastest Average Fastball, Cain, 93.2
Second in Total Pitches 95+, Lincecum, 647
Ninth in Highest % Curveballs, Zito, 18.3
Sixth in Opponent OPS vs. Changeups, Zito, .636
Fifth in Hits Per 9 IP, Cain, 7.79

Star-divide


The bottom line: Matt Cain is a stud. He's durable, throws hard and is tough to hit. I'll admit I've gone a bit gaga over Lincecum, but, damn, did Cain ever have a great year!

I didn't include every mention among the league leaders, just the ones I found most interesting. I suspect Lincecum would have made more lists if he'd met the 162-inning minimum for rate stats.

Happy New Year, everybody. Spring training starts next month.

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Re: Matt Cain and other pitching notes
LOL seventh in Pitchers Per Start: Zito.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 1, 2008 12:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Matt Cain and other pitching notes
Ah, first Freudian slip of the new year.

by Dan from NM on Jan 1, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"Burn Your Arms," by Zito&Bochy
You've got Zito rarely getting to or through the seventh.

You've got Bochy playing righty-lefty matchups until the game, the pen and the fans are utterly exhausted.

Zito wasn't seventh, or tenth, or second. Fans, I think we have a winner. Zito must have led the league in Pitchers Per Start.

by Moggeee on Jan 1, 2008 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not a typo
That's a beer count.
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by Natto on Jan 1, 2008 9:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: It's not a typo
Dammit he would have been sixth, too, if only David Wells hadn't played last year.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 2, 2008 12:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Matt Cain and other pitching notes
Second fastest average fastball? Nice!
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by jponry on Jan 1, 2008 12:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Matt Cain and other pitching notes
I don't believe they said Tim Lincecum had the second-fastest average fastball.  They said he threw the second-most pitches over 95 mph.  On a pro-rated basis, had he pitched the whole season for the Giants, he would have thrown the MOST pitches over 95 mph in the NL -- although not in the major leagues.

Tim and Matt each had top-notch fastballs. Tim's averaged 95+; Matt's, 94+. Tim's had slightly more "hop," (a surprise to me), while Matt's had more movement in and out.  Tim got more called strikes; Matt, more swinging strikes.  Tim had more balls in play; Matt, more foul balls.  Neither gave up a lot of hits, although Tim yielded more power with his heater.

Tim's curve blows Matt's away.  Tim's change up is harder to hit, but Matt has great control of the pitch and should use it more often IMO.  

Matt's control improved a great deal in the last two months of the season.  What he needs to do to continue his improvement is to improve his curve and slider -- as well as using his very good change up more often.

With Tim it is all about control.  When his first pitch last season was a strike, he had Maddux-like walk rates.  When it was a ball, he resembled a young Sandy Koufax.

At this point, Matt's and Tim's fastballs appear to be so close together in effectiveness that I can't really separate them.  Tim enjoys a huge curve ball advantage, and his curve is far better than Matt's slider.  Tim also has the better change up (a devastating one when he throws it for a strike), but it is Matt who has excellent control of the pitch.

IMO Tim would benefit from throwing more curves and change ups.  Matt would benefit from throwing more change ups and from improving his curve ball and slider.

Also, while Tim's change up became his most effective pitch by season's end, he slumped a little with that snapping curve ball.  My guess is that his curve, considered his best pitch when he came out of college, will bounce back sharply.

Despite just picking up his change up (actually an abbreviated split) last winter, Tim now has three plus-plus pitches.  At best, Matt has two -- and therefore must rely more heavily on his fastball until he improves his curve and slider and uses his fine change up more frequently.

If both pitchers continue to improve, the Giants could soon have the league's best one-two starting punch.  Given that their offense is punchless, that would help a lot.

by sharksrog on Jan 3, 2008 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Matt Cain and other pitching notes
How is Matt Cain having the second fastest fastball related to Tim Lincecum?
Steve Kline: How okay is he, really? I would say he is pretty okay.

by groug on Jan 3, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Matt Cain and other pitching notes
Everything is related to Tim Lincecum by no more than six degrees of separation.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 6, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Second in Total Pitches 95+, Lincecum, 647
My arm just went dead in sympathy
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by victor frankenstein on Jan 3, 2008 4:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Second in Total Pitches 95+, Lincecum, 647
Had Tim reached 162 innings pitched, he would have been ahead of Matt in many of the categories for which Matt was cited in this post.

by sharksrog on Jan 3, 2008 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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