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This week's secret catchphrase: "End of an era." Whenever you hear "end of an era", the lights should flicker and people should scream. If that doesn't happen, you're doing it wrong.
The end of the Bonds era means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. Most folks are sad that they don't get to see him hit anymore, and rightfully so. Keep your Pujolseseses and A-Rods; there will never be another hitter who was so feared, so intelligent, and so dominating. There was never a "book" on Bonds. There wasn't a Benardian hole above Bonds's strike zone, or the 1"x1" slider-shaped hole that Jeff Kent had. Throw it in the strike zone, and it would get crushed. Throw it out of the strike zone, and he'd spit on it. Pujols and Rodriguez are two of the greatest hitters to ever live, but Bonds will always be the best we've ever seen.
Dur. That paragraph is 125 words of blather you've already heard or read a million times this week, though at least I snuck in the adjective "Benardian." But here's what the end of the Bonds era really means to me:
The Giants ain't good no more.
Oh, I'm aware they haven't been good for a couple of years now, but with Bonds there was always that stray beam of optimism that comes with having a cartoon player in the lineup. "Yeah, the lineup doesn't look so hot, but if everyone hits around their career average, and Barry hits .370/.500/.750, we should have a shot." It seems ridiculous to read such a thing now, but there was a time when it was valid. The 2003 team won 100 games, but they had no business winning 100 games. At least, it wouldn't make sense if you just looked at the first 24 roster spots. But the team had Bonds.
It was the same story in 2004, though the bullpen was wretched enough to keep the team out of the playoffs. When Bonds was hurt in 2005, it almost made the losing okay. As in, yeah, this team isn't good, but that's because we don't have our magic player. The following year, there wasn't a better offseason addition for any team than a (relatively) healthy Bonds. Before this season started, any optimism about this team revolved around Bonds's health.
From 1997 to 2007, we expected the Giants to win. There were some pessimists before every season - and there sure weren't too many fans thinking this 2007 team was anything special - but having Bonds on the Giants meant the Giants had a chance.
Now? No chance. You can't point to the worst-to-first shenanigans of the 1997 team because that team had Bonds. This team is going to be filled with the Steve Scarsones, Dax Joneses, and Desi Wilsons of our time, except there isn't going to be a Bonds there when we find the diamonds in the rough - the Rich Aurilias and Bill Muellers. I'd love to be wrong, but the 2008 team is going to be some kind of awful.
Bonds hit one to the warning track and then limped away. Think of the warning track as 2002, and there's your metaphor for the Bonds Era. The worst part: the metaphor doesn't end with Bonds leaving the game, it ends with an 11-3 loss against a team actually fighting for something.
It's better to have contended and lost than to never have contended at all. Thanks, Barry.
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For me, the important part is recognizing they aren't going to win the next years - to stop the idiot brigade here who think "LETS SIGN AROD LOLZ" oR "PROVEN VETERAN LINE DRIVE HITTERS SPEED AND DEFENSE" crowd. This will be the worst offense in baseball next year - mentally, I'm prepared to deal with that, because it will get better. Watching Matt Cain go 6-17 next year with a sub 3.00 era? Not so much.
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My English teachers would be even more ashamed of me. My basketball teachers would be proud, though.
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2007 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
"Byron" and "basketball"
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2007 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
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by positiveuphemism on Sep 27, 2007 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
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Make it a red hot one!
by victor frankenstein on Sep 27, 2007 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
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I'd actually be interested in watching a team of 25 clones of these three guys. The Scarsone-Scarsone-Scarsone DP combo would be amazing.
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Sep 27, 2007 1:23 PM PDT reply actions
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by Grant Brisbee on Sep 27, 2007 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
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The "stretch run" here these past few weeks has functioned as a preview of what 2008 will be like for the Gigantes. Inept, anemic, impotent offense, coupled with a smidgen of speed and a dash of defense.
It won't be pretty.
Of course, I've rooted for bad teams before -- hell, I was raised as a Mets fan! -- so I'm not going anywhere. But it's going to be ugly.
As much as I appreciated BLB playing here -- and I DID appreciate him -- I realize now that in some ways I was still taking him for granted. Even surrounded by absolute scrubs, as you say, Barry's Giants could conceivably go all the way. Without him, they're not getting into the postseason without a ticket.
It was really sad at the yard last night. My wife was actually weeping as Barry took his curtain call. The last home game is always a sombre occasion, but this one was especially solemn.
Thanks, Barry. I'll miss you.
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Long time reader, new poster. Sorry, didn't have much to contribute, just wanted to see how this came out.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2007 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
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Really, Renel has guns? Long time Bay Area native living in now in Beantown. I remember Renel on the morning zoo with Rick Chase on KMEL. Is Rick still there?
Boy, I miss the Bay more than I thought.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2007 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
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May I ask how he died? I know he struggled with weight issues, no disrespect.
by tellusfrank on Sep 28, 2007 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
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by Caught Backcourt on Sep 27, 2007 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Free Agency Dates
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2003/01/important-transaction-dates_03.html
by giantsrainman on Sep 27, 2007 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
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"Padres pitcher Brett Tomko went to the front of the dugout and screamed at Cain, who had hollered at Hairston for flipping his bat after hitting a home run. "I was defending my teammate," Tomko said. "Bottom line, I thought it was a bad move by Cain."
WTF. Tomko is a pussy.
by benson11 on Sep 27, 2007 4:27 PM PDT reply actions
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Having witnessed Barry , and having him on my team , I feel pretty sure I will never recover from this. Chief , you hit it on the head...Barry was Hope , Power , and Glory personified - and now we're going to try to ignore his absence...I wish you all , and myself , good fucking luck with that one.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 27, 2007 5:01 PM PDT reply actions
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by PacBellBoozer on Sep 27, 2007 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
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He is still in denial about the offense.
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In short:
- Teams lose because Barry Bonds distracts them from winning.
- Practically said the team knew they wouldn't bring Bonds back since at least the All-Star break but didn't tell him because other fanbases wouldn't appreciate the farewell tour.
- "The damn bullpen!" - Will look to sign veteran relievers or TRADE for relief help! Noah Lowry for Latrelle Hawkins, anybody!
- Rajai Davis should be viewed as an elite prospect.
- Barry Zito's contract isn't that big.
- My personal favorite! Matt Cain needs to learn how to control his emotions!
- Speed and Defense! Speed and Defense! The smart way to win is to field a team of 8 leadoff hitters because they'll set the table for each other! Ra! Ra! Ra!
by howtheyscored on Sep 28, 2007 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
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I was trying to make a joke about changing fanbases to another team, but I just can't.
That's fucking depressing.
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I'm guessing this is the link.
by awesomer @ McCovey Chronicles on Sep 28, 2007 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions
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I'm too depressed to go back and listen.
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1 - ok
2 - Sabean said they didn't tell Bonds earlier because "you never know how that might affect a player's performance or desire to play," i.e. they were concerned Barry might pull a tank job.
3 - He said they might look for help outside the organization if the "kids" (ie Wilson, Henn, Walker) can't cut it. I think that's pretty reasonable.
Barbieri named those three as being the only viable options in the pen and Sabean agreed. It didn't sound like Sabes has much confidence in Taschner, Kline, et al...which was encouraging.
4 - He said Rajei should be considered for a front line job, not as an elite player. When your other option is Dave Roberts, that's not a crazy statement. Additionally, Sabean's been pretty candid in past shows that Davis has a lot of work to do at the plate since he can't hit breaking balls. I think Sabean is pretty realistic about what he is and is not.
5 - He did say something like this, and it was definitely ridiculous.
6 - Whatever. Canned response to a stupid question from Tolbert.
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But I was exaggerating a lot. He was being very "I'm talking about a generic player when he was talking about Barry, but it just sounded so bad the way he was saying it that it was hard not to read something into his words. He didn't actually say Rajai was an elite prospect, but he did more or less say the guy should be treated like one, so I stretched that point, too. And I can understand what he means because of our talent deficiency we're in a position where Davis is our elite prospect. It's still a silly thing to say, even if there is sense behind it.
And I agree about the last one completely. As much as it hurts my ears to hear management feeding the speed line to thousands of fans who fall so hard for the park effects logic, I firmly believe Sabean takes the stance almost completely because he knows it will be hard to line up anything outside of speed and defense and would rather look like he has a plan than look like he tried to put a real team together and failed.
by howtheyscored on Sep 28, 2007 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
2. is still ridiculous if that's his point
3. Still sucks, you have to give the kids a chance to figure it out for at least all of 08, and bringing in FA mostly requires multi year contracts which should not be handed out this year.
by awesomer @ McCovey Chronicles on Sep 28, 2007 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
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oooooooooooooooooooooonan!
by howtheyscored on Sep 28, 2007 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
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I mean, the main problem (offense) with this team (offense) is not really the bullpen (offense) because the bullpen (offense) can't hold a lead (offense) that the team doesn't have (offense), and it's too much to ask (offense) to ask them to hold a 1-run lead (offense) every night (offense).
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Giants dead last in "Close and Late Offense":
While middle of the pack in "Close and Late Pitching":
I wonder if always takng Barry out of the lineup in "Close and Late" situations in which we had the lead had anything to do with this?
by giantsrainman on Sep 28, 2007 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
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The Rod Carew's (and Tony Gwynn's) approach was to sacrifice extra basehits and walks to get more singles and this can hardly be considered the most intelligent approach to hitting.
by giantsrainman on Sep 28, 2007 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions

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