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Thoughts on Bonds

In 1993 the Giants signed Barry Bonds.  I was 8 and living in Japan for a year and had no idea what was going on in baseball in America.  Before that I had some interest in baseball, I played a bit of little league but I didn't have any serious link with any particular team.  Once I had moved back to California, my father being a Giants fan, I naturally was a Giants fan too.  Nothing serious, really.  Just watched the occasional game on TV, or went to a game at the Stick once or twice.  But slowly I started to follow the Giants more and more.  And yes, it is a little bandwagony, but I think 2002 cemented me as a Giants fan for life.  There's no way I could root for another team.

But through all those years, there has always been a Barry Bonds on the Giants.  Someone who could and would change the game with one swing or do something spectacular.  Those older and wiser of you remember Giants teams before Bonds, but for me the Giants have always had Barry Bonds.  A superstar that was a Giant through and through, not just some awesome free agent signed for a few years then moving on to greener pastures and higher dollars.

The Giants without Bonds will be different than any Giants team I've ever known, and I think it's definitely going to feel like something is missing.  So thanks, Barry, for the good times and hopefully we'll see you around the park from time to time.

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I was thinking last night..
3/4 of my life was with Barry Bonds as a Giant.
Lance Niekro AAA Watch: 108 AB .287/.352/.463 6 2B 2 3B 3 HR 11 BB -- 0.2 IP 27.00 ERA 3 H 0 BB 0 K (through 8/19)

by WalrusMan on Sep 27, 2007 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: I was thinking last night..
As my son and I were headed to Tuesday's game, my son noted that Barry's been a Giant since before he was born...kinda blew me away.

As I headed to last night's game, I realized that my being a Giant's fan pretty much coincides with the Bonds Era. (I held on to my Padre fandom my first few years in san Francisco but was evntually seduced by the dark side.)

As I told a reporter that interviewed me last night (seems like the entire media wants a piece of Goofus), last night was bittersweet. I was sad to see him go,  loved watching him play and know replacing his offense will be damn near impossible, but I'm also looking forward to see how the new era plays out.

Last night was a good example of the Bonds shadow sometimes being too big; it could have been Omar's final game as a Giant as well.  On his first AB, I stood and applauded Dreamy.  I looked around and realized I was the only one showing the love for a truly great player and possible HOFer.

Attention all cars: Be on the look-out for Ryan Klesko's missing power.

by Goofus on Sep 27, 2007 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re: I was thinking last night..
Yeah, that was lame Bochy took him out so soon.  Unless Omar got hurt or something I will be pretty disappointed esp. if he's not back next year.
Can't w8 for '08!

by southcitysteve on Sep 27, 2007 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re: I was thinking last night..
same, but if you dont count the first 5 years of my life, which i really dont even remember anyways, hes been a giant my whole life

by Azmanz on Sep 27, 2007 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: I was thinking last night..
discounting the first two of mine, he's been around since i was 2.

most of my baseball watching life.

Pedro Feliz: Marginally better this year.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 27, 2007 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Thoughts on Bonds
I'll echo what's been said here, but I'm petrified the Giants think that signing Tori Hunter or Andrew Jones will "replace" Bonds. I really wish Sabean had been given his walking papers as well.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Sep 27, 2007 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Sad Tidings
I've no energy for the persona of E. Only real memories of being your age and newly married, when it was time for Willie to leave us. And I was about your age when he who came here in 1958, fulfilling a dream for most of the summers of my life. In May of his fifteenth season, for Charlie Williams, Willie Mays was sent to New York. My whole life the Giants had had a Willie Mays. Willie was the Giants. Even more so for we kids, for Joe DiMaggio had been long gone from the Seals by the time Willie arrived, so we had no attachments.  

In a figurative sense, the first departure was the loss of a favorite uncle. The second, that of a son. For years, it did not hurt anymore, but then it did when Candlestick closed for the last time and Willie was the last introduced and he walked in from behind the centerfield fence.  Peter Magowan did that. He made Willie part of the family again.  We old bastards got to see him patrol CF one last time, 28 years after he had last lost his cap in the wind. Bob Lurie and Horace Stoneham would not have.

In the telecast last night, at the end, it appeared Mr. Magowan remembered this too. That our players are flesh and bone. That in spite of the envy and anger and embarrassment of scandal. And all the emotional investment we have in winning and success, some of us, somehow, despite our best efforts, and for any number of irrational reasons, become so attached, irrationally really. To care so much for somebody who would not give you the time of day. I have my ideas why, but I really don't know. Perhaps for another time.

Barry Zito -- Catch Me if You Can.

by E Ticket on Sep 27, 2007 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: Sad Tidings
Great points.  For the team's sake, for Barry sake and for the fan's sake, I hope that the split is not so acrimonius that Bonds isn't a fixture around the park the way Cepada, McCovey and Mays are.

I look forward to the unveiling of the statue someday.  If they could somehow put it out on a little island in the cove (like a mini Statue of Liberty) where the splash hits landed, that would seem most appropriate.  (It might also make it harder for vandals to denegrate it.)

Attention all cars: Be on the look-out for Ryan Klesko's missing power.

by Goofus on Sep 27, 2007 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Sad Tidings
I read Magowan and Bonds talked around the batting cages before the game so I doubt there will be any hard feelings after he retires.  Once the Giants retire #25 in '09 I think we'll be seeing a lot of Bonds around AT&T.
Can't w8 for '08!

by southcitysteve on Sep 27, 2007 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Sad Tidings
Bonds should get his own statue no doubt but I think another statue with Barry-Willie-Bobby standing side-by-side would make Bonds cry.  It's pretty special for a team to have a connection like that between three amazing players and I'd like to see it commemorated
Can't w8 for '08!

by southcitysteve on Sep 27, 2007 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Sad Tidings
I vote for more of real memories like this and less "persona of E" -- not that the persona isn't amusing too. But this is real stuff. So, thanks.
Notgardo may be afraid to catch Niekro's knuckler. Mama didn't raise no fool.

by tk on Sep 27, 2007 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Sad Tidings
A Candlestick-gray melancholy hangs over both this post and the state of the current Giants.

Pray, take heart, he that created E.

And tell us that this is not the end, dear friend.

by Moggeee on Oct 3, 2007 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Thoughts on Bonds
Thank you E. That is the single best thing I've ever read on this blog.

by samboo on Sep 27, 2007 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Thoughts

He's the best that ever was.  I guess it's a time honored SF Giants tradition to kick their heroes to the curb for the last couple seasons (Willie Mac, Oakland, Mays, Mets...)

I am tempted to boycott Giants baseball if he comes back for another team for <15M/year.

by zenbitz on Sep 27, 2007 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: When do we sign Nikolai?
When Nik is reaching the later years of his prime, we sign Darren Baker. They hit 3-4 in the lineup and we win the World Series every year for a ten year stretch.

In this exercise I also have a crown, sceptre, and throne as I am the Queen of Everything.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not facist: THE RETURN OF SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 27, 2007 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: When do we sign Nikolai?
Can I have a rocket ship?
Dave Righetti: You don't know him. / Read My Blog, Because I Write It

by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2007 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you want a rocketship
Is there anything the Queen of Everything can't do?
Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not facist: THE RETURN OF SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 27, 2007 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: So you want a rocketship
The splits, maybe? Kartwheels? Those are pretty hard.
Dave Righetti: You don't know him. / Read My Blog, Because I Write It

by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2007 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Thoughts on Bonds
E's post was exactly along the lines of my thoughts as I left the ballpark. We've said goodbye to beloved Giants, both sending them into retirement (JT Snow) and into the afterlife (Uribe, Chris Brown, Shooter). But losing Bonds is to me what losing Mays had to have been to the generations of fans before me. It's doubtful I will ever see another player like him again on this team. I feel the need to borrow other people's children to tell them stories of Bonds, because I won't have kids of my own. Bonds is the Giants as Mays was the Giants.

Things just will not be the same ever again.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not facist: THE RETURN OF SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 27, 2007 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: Thoughts on Bonds
I've been to a lot of funerals and haven't shed a tear, but seeing Barry go made me cry.  
Zealously advocating for Nate the Great since 2007.

by orangeandblackattack on Sep 27, 2007 12:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Thoughts on Bonds
I thought the send off was less than spectacular. There was no pregame ceramony. The video tributes were Bruce Magowan and Renel? I guess JT said a few words. Most of it was film we've seen a million times. Not that I didn't want to see it but to the tune of My Way?  And after telling everyone to stay for the postgame tribute, it was more of the same. Then they had to get everyone out. Renel said good bye everyone. Tony sang as our cue to leave and the players came out and threw balls in the stands? It was weird. Tempers flared. I saw 2 fights on the way out. Sigh.

by robbgin on Sep 27, 2007 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Thoughts on Bonds
i cant figure out how other teams dealing with never having a barry bonds on their team.  is it better to have had a barry bonds and lost one, or to never have had a barry bonds at all?

by Azmanz on Sep 27, 2007 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Thoughts on Bonds
I'm conflicted, and I'll tell you why:

First of all, I have to say thank you to Barry for not only giving us some of the greatest moments of not only Giants baseball, but baseball in general. The guy was the best I've ever seen (and probably will see), being that my earliest memories involved seeing Willie Mays at the end of his career here and hearing how great he was. You don't appreciate that when you're 5.

Barry was a horrifying terror to opposing pitchers, and totally changed the approach other teams had towards facing the Giants. And as a Giants fan, how could you not love seeing such a force in your uniform?

But...there was the attitude. He didn't play the smile-for-the-cameras game, wasn't always available, and wasn't the most cheerful guy around. You could argue that he wasn't being paid for PR, he was being paid for what he did on the field, and you would be correct. Between the lines he was Force Ten, but off the field, especially in the past few years, he really tested my patience. I could care less if he did or didn't take something to help his performance. But let's face it, his attitude was tolerated because he delivered. I never cared for any player who dictated to management what he was going to do because he wanted to, regardless of what it meant to the team.

We're entering a new era. The other night, Scott Ostler wrote that you could feel the looser feeling in the clubhouse, and that can only be good.

by Van Smack on Sep 28, 2007 8:16 AM PDT reply actions  

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