756 Ball
The fate of 756 has been revealed.
The ball Barry Bonds hit for his record-breaking 756th home run will be branded with an asterisk and sent to the Baseball Hall of Fame, its owner said Wednesday.Fashion designer Marc Ecko, who bought the ball in an online auction, set up a Web site for fans to vote on the ball's fate, and the decision to brand it won out over the other options, sending it to the museum unblemished or launching it into space.
and what does cooperstown think of this?
"We're happy to get it," he said. "We're a nonprofit history museum, so this ball wouldn't be coming to Cooperstown without Marc Ecko buying it from the fan who caught it."seems like they couldnt care less about there being an asterisk on the ball.
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by southcitysteve on Sep 26, 2007 9:26 AM PDT 0 recs
I see the fake poll has been "counted."
by howtheyscored on Sep 26, 2007 9:50 AM PDT 0 recs
Re: I see the fake poll has been "counted.
Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on
Sep 26, 2007 11:54 AM PDT
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No kidding.
by achiappanza on
Sep 27, 2007 1:04 AM PDT
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*I usually try to avoid namecalling, but in this case I'm not gonna use his real name - let him buy his own publicity.
by EliminateMe on Sep 26, 2007 9:58 AM PDT 0 recs
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A brilliant marketing strategy if you ask me. Lame because of how he's treating the ball...but he's getting massive amounts of exposure. Good or bad, that's all he was hoping for.
by PacBellBoozer on
Sep 26, 2007 10:08 AM PDT
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This is a shameful publicity stunt. If/when Barry gets cleared, this is going to show the world what classless jerks they all were.
by KyrieEleison on Sep 26, 2007 10:03 AM PDT 0 recs
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by howtheyscored on
Sep 26, 2007 10:18 AM PDT
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Howzabout asterix?
Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on
Sep 26, 2007 11:58 AM PDT
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Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on
Sep 26, 2007 11:58 AM PDT
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by EliminateMe on
Sep 26, 2007 12:33 PM PDT
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by Natto on
Sep 26, 2007 2:05 PM PDT
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I guess it just makes me sad, that's all. There are all these people with wads of money and they have no idea what to do with it. They can't do anything of value, they can't do anything of good for society, so instead they make these grand but empty gestures.
by Kitspool on Sep 26, 2007 10:19 AM PDT 0 recs
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He realized that there was massive attention over an f'ing baseball. He purchased said baseball at which point it became a first rate marketing opportunity. Cheers to Mark Ecko for proving to all of us that sometimes we put "value" into things that in any other case, are worthless.
by PacBellBoozer on
Sep 26, 2007 10:38 AM PDT
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by southcitysteve on
Sep 26, 2007 11:03 AM PDT
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by PacBellBoozer on
Sep 26, 2007 11:04 AM PDT
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by Evan on
Sep 26, 2007 3:10 PM PDT
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It's a baseball dude...that's all it is...all it ever will be. It isn't going to cure cancer. It isn't anything but nostalgia. Even for nostalgia this ranks pretty damn low in the spectrum.
A piece of the Berlin Wall, Lincoln's topcoat, the original flag by Betsy Ross...this are things that are important and have a story behind them that should be passed down from generation to generation. The baseball is nothing but a piece of sports history. A piece of entertainment kitsch...no more important than Wacko Jacko's sequined glove or Dorthy's ruby red slippers.
I haven't ever heard Ecko say this ISN'T advertising. Frankly, if you read between the lines and think about things objectively, you too will see this for what it is.
by PacBellBoozer on
Sep 26, 2007 3:57 PM PDT
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by Evan on
Sep 26, 2007 4:09 PM PDT
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Think about Paris Hilton in that respect. Has she ever done anything that warrants the kind of attention she receives? She f'ing dryhumped a car in the skimpiest of swimsuits and sold millions of Carl's Junior hamburgers along the way.
All I'm saying is that you shouldn't be so upset with the people trying to sell you product XYZ. You should be mad at the nation full of idiot consumers who buy, buy, buy, based on trends, fads, and the like.
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Sep 26, 2007 4:16 PM PDT
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by howtheyscored on
Sep 26, 2007 4:30 PM PDT
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by southcitysteve on
Sep 26, 2007 4:00 PM PDT
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by PacBellBoozer on
Sep 26, 2007 4:06 PM PDT
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If you feel upset, blame the droves of ignorant American morans who voted for the ball to be branded. People so frustrated and upset with Barry Bonds that they find pleasure in having the ball sitting in a museum defaced. Its Johnnie Ray from suburban West Virginia who is still angry with Barry for leaving the Pirates. And its Blake from San Diego who has never actually watched all 9 innings of a baseball game but somebody told him the Padres were totally sweet and that he isn't supposed to like "this one dude named Bonds".
by Woody Wins on
Sep 26, 2007 11:04 AM PDT
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by PacBellBoozer on
Sep 26, 2007 11:07 AM PDT
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(This * thing is only worth about one or two more goes, methinks, before it's just completely saturated in lame)
by howtheyscored on
Sep 26, 2007 11:13 AM PDT
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"couldn't give two tw*ts about..."
Can I steal that from you? It will go nicely with my assorted Brit. vernacular slang. Ranks right up there with wanker, tosspot, and ballocks.
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Sep 26, 2007 11:16 AM PDT
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Sep 26, 2007 11:23 AM PDT
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by PacBellBoozer on
Sep 26, 2007 1:53 PM PDT
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by tk on Sep 26, 2007 10:27 AM PDT 0 recs
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by wjackalope on
Sep 26, 2007 10:37 AM PDT
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Which, btw, anybody know where I can get my hands on a roughly baseball sized red cape...? You know, for my hamster?
by howtheyscored on
Sep 26, 2007 10:48 AM PDT
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(Just wait until Halloween - I'm sure if you find the right store, you should be able to find a costume for those teeny little dogs that people carry around in their purses.)
by KyrieEleison on
Sep 26, 2007 11:11 AM PDT
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by Natto on Sep 26, 2007 11:28 AM PDT 0 recs
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Sep 26, 2007 11:43 AM PDT
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by Natto on
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Sep 26, 2007 12:05 PM PDT
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by EliminateMe on
Sep 26, 2007 12:32 PM PDT
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by groug on Sep 26, 2007 1:16 PM PDT 0 recs
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I think some of you guys need to take a step back and separate your love of the Giants from Barry. There really seems to be little doubt that he (like a number of players) used steroids. He admitted he did in his BALCO testimony...he just said he didn't know he was consuming steroids, which is obviously nonsense.
by OctopusLime on Sep 26, 2007 2:41 PM PDT 0 recs
It always seems the posts..
by WalrusMan on
Sep 26, 2007 2:56 PM PDT
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Oh, I have 2 posts now.
by OctopusLime on
Sep 26, 2007 3:04 PM PDT
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by howtheyscored on
Sep 26, 2007 3:08 PM PDT
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And to me..
by WalrusMan on
Sep 26, 2007 7:38 PM PDT
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by Evan on
Sep 26, 2007 3:07 PM PDT
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Since you've given it some thought, what's your view?
by OctopusLime on
Sep 26, 2007 4:07 PM PDT
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/070926&sportCat=mlb
by southcitysteve on
Sep 26, 2007 4:35 PM PDT
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by howtheyscored on
Sep 26, 2007 5:34 PM PDT
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Anyway, the Cliff's Notes version:
- I think popular conception of the effect that steroids have on baseball players is fantastically overblown. Show me anything other than anecdotal evidence that they change anyone's game dramatically and we'll talk.
- Pre-1999, Bonds was one of the ten or fifteen greatest players in the history of the game. Is it really so hard to believe that a man with that kind of talent -- along with a ruthless baseball intelligence and access to improvements in sports medicine that Ruth and Williams and DiMaggio and Mays never could have imagined -- would be capable of refining and upgrading his game as he gets older?
- This is probably a minority opinion among Giants fans, but I personally don't see much difference between PEDs and weight training, eyeglasses and eye surgery, use of videotape, etc. And insofar as it's cheating, I don't see much difference between the use of PEDs and bat-corking, spitballs, phantom tags, and pretending you've caught a ball that in fact you trapped.
- Barry's mastery of the game blows away any other player I've ever seen. Until he starts kicking children or molesting dogs or something, whatever moral disapproval his behavior and personality may cause me to feel is going to be utterly trumped by the fact that watching the man play baseball is just a joy.
by Evan on
Sep 26, 2007 6:33 PM PDT
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Sep 26, 2007 7:05 PM PDT
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And it helps that he's basically made baseball watchable in SF for the last 15 years.
by howtheyscored on
Sep 26, 2007 7:29 PM PDT
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Look, I don't know the actual amount of homers Barry would have hit if he didn't take steroids. It's speculative and I'll admit that. Furthermore, who knows whether the steroids made him more injury prone than he would otherwise have been and maybe cost him to lose some HRs during certain periods (or maybe it made him less so -- I don't know). But it seems like common sense that taking a chemical which makes you stronger so you can swing the bat harder would allow you to put up a lot more HRs. I mean, if you could increase your bat speed just a little so your fly balls go an extra 5-10 feet, that makes for a lot more HRs over the course of a season. Considering Barry's involvement with BALCO starting around 2000 and the huge boost in his SLG beginning in 1999 and for the next several years after that, and looking at the number of player-seasons with 60+ HRs all compressed into a few years when it seems baseball had a major steroid problem (when nobody had touched 60 for 40 years before that), I'd say it's pretty hard to doubt the power of those chemicals.
by OctopusLime on
Sep 26, 2007 6:43 PM PDT
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by howtheyscored on
Sep 26, 2007 7:25 PM PDT
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Harder wood produces better results. That's what she said. (In honor of tonight's "The Office" season premier.)
by Goofus on
Sep 27, 2007 2:28 PM PDT
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From my point of view, steroids are a problem (a pervasive one) in every sport mostly for the health risk to people who will never be pros. I would hate to be a kid who felt he needed to juice to make a team.
Most of us here are weary of Barry being singled out for steroid heckling/persecution/whatever, but I also think you're right that it was about the HR chase. So he can't really say he didn't know the deal, but man, that guy performs under pressure and scrutiny like NOBODY else.
I'm glad to see all the energy of haters dissipate after 756. If anyone is still beating the drum about getting Barry off the field, then at least they'll be showing a little integrity at this point. Outrage just seems to have more sincerity when it's about a principle and not a record.
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by groug on
Sep 26, 2007 3:11 PM PDT
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http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/12/03/MNGGFA0UDU65.DTL
by OctopusLime on
Sep 26, 2007 4:32 PM PDT
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This is lame.
by WalrusMan on Sep 26, 2007 2:57 PM PDT 0 recs
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I thought in our country a person is innocent until proven guilty; Bonds' treatment is the exact opposite of this.
The asterik was the vote I was expecting so there's no surprise. It's an American game and it's become pretty clear that most people in our country have their heads up their a**.
Still I hope some fan out there drops a bomb on Cooperstown if they display this ball. And hopefully they do in when this Ecko SOB is in the building.
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