Is Randy Winn in contention?
For a gold glove?
He has a paltry 2 errors in almost 1250 outfield innings. Of course it is split up among the three positions, but he plays most of his games in RF. A home RF that can be a pain in the arse for anyone that wanders near it. So does he have a chance? Does he need more spectacular catches?
What are the best qualifiers for outfield gold glove?
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Re: Is Randy Winn in contention?
Let me put it this way: Derek Jeter is the LAST player to deserve a Gold Glove, yet he still wins it. It usually goes to a player on a team that's a contender, or they have to be outstanding at their position.
Randy Winn ranked as a +22 last year, 2 above Alex Rios (by John Dewan's metrics). He's definitely one of the best defensive OF in the game, but he'll most likely be overshadowed by someone else, even if they are less deserving.
Players like Adrian Beltre, Pedro Feliz and Adam Everett deserve recognition not only by stat-heads but by everyone out there.
by Anticon23 on Sep 23, 2007 11:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by BruteSentiment on Sep 23, 2007 11:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Natto on Sep 24, 2007 12:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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If you want to look at one play that indicates why I feel that way, just look at Tim Lincecum's last start. Remember the ball Randy misjudged in left center that fell in for a triple? That play certainly isn't characteristic of Randy's defense, but it does indicate why he doesn't deserve a Gold Glove despite the low number of errors.
I think Pedro Feliz deserves a Gold Glove, but I doubt he'll win one. Omar Vizquel might well win another one this year, but he probably isn't the most deserving shortstop. In his case, Omar isn't all that far off, though. I think Randy IS a fair way from deserving one.
by sharksrog on Sep 24, 2007 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Is Randy Winn in contention?
I can't remember the last time I saw him lay out fully for a ball ala Edmonds, etc. He has a decent arm, maybe a bit above average, or even good maybe, but he's not in the same class as Vlad, Ichiro, etc.
Randy strikes me as the consummate pro. One that doesn't take things to the media, doesn't complain about where or how much he's playing, and he is the model of consistency in everything he does...hitting the ball the other way...etc. All of this, while extremely valuable to some people, isn't the kind of stuff that wins awards.
by PacBellBoozer on Sep 24, 2007 12:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You're completely right.
Jim Edmonds really isn't that great of a defensive player any more, but he makes himself appear to be by making all those diving plays . . .which he has to make because he takes poor routes to the ball.
Derek Jeter is a perfect example. Please show me a video clip where he's not throwing on the run and making a simple grounder look like an adventure.
by Anticon23 on Sep 24, 2007 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by sharksrog on Sep 24, 2007 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Bhaakon on Sep 24, 2007 12:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by PacBellBoozer on Sep 24, 2007 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Giant Fan in Singapore on Sep 24, 2007 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You won't get any fielding errors..
by WalrusMan on Sep 24, 2007 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: You won't get any fielding errors..
by Bhaakon on Sep 24, 2007 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: You won't get any fielding errors..
The Giants ratio of 53 fielding errors to 32 throwing errors (among all players -- not merely outfielders) is fourth-highest in the league.
by sharksrog on Sep 26, 2007 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, gold gloves in the OF
So, Winn will be competing with the CFs, the likes of Andruw Jones, Carlos Beltran, Aaron Rowand, Mike Cameron.
by rfloh on Sep 24, 2007 7:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by rxmeister on Sep 24, 2007 7:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by sharksrog on Sep 26, 2007 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by PacBellBoozer on Sep 26, 2007 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by biff pocoroba on Sep 24, 2007 9:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Is Randy Winn in contention?
in other news, Marcel Marceau est mort. :(
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 24, 2007 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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