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Clarification

I've calmed down. It isn't the news about Barry that ruined me; I was kind of expecting that he wouldn't be back. It was the interview with Brian Sabean on KNBR that did it. Paraphrased, once again:

We need to build around pitching and defense, but even though we have one of the top three starting rotations in baseball, and even though we have the seventh-best fielding percentage in baseball (which is all I really need to look at), we're missing the little things. We have one of the worst records in baseball because we need to build around pitching, defense, and the little things. Hitting to the right side when you need to advance a runner from second to third; hitting to the left side when you need to advance a runner from second to first. The little things.

So I'm going to hire my "Moneyball"-guy, but instead of stats, he's going to have a P.h.D. in Littlethingsology from Bovine University. Also, this entire season is the bullpen's fault, so if they get better, this team will be a playoff team.

I'm tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt -- it'd been a long day, he was just riffing with Barbieri and Tolbert, it wasn't like this was a prepared declaration -- but I'm tired of giving him the benefit of the doubt. Here's what I wanted to hear:
We could use some help in the bullpen. When you have trouble scoring runs, it hurts that much more when the bullpen coughs up a game. But we need to score more runs. That's the bottom line. We need guys who can hit. I went out and got a bunch of guys with experience, guys who should know what to do in a situation with a runner on second and no outs. It turns out they couldn't do what we wanted because it's less an issue of will, and more an issue of talent. At the end of the day, we need to change that and bring in more talent on the offensive side.

The problem is that there isn't a magic cure. People think now that we aren't going to have to pay Barry, we can go and buy a better team. That's just not how the dynamics of this upcoming free agent market will work. Even if we could magically transfer the top eight position players from this free agent market into our lineup, it still wouldn't be a great lineup. It would cost $200M, and the players would only get worse over the lives of the contracts. We aren't in that 'win now at all costs' mode anymore, even if it would make sense to do so in this free agent market. We tried it, and, at the end of the day, it didn't work.

That isn't to say we won't try to compete. We have a surplus of pitching -- with as many as seven viable starting pitchers -- and the free agent market is brutally short of pitching. There's a chance we can turn one or two of those pitchers into young players who will help us now and help us a lot in the future. There's a chance that we'll be better off keeping that pitching depth for our future; it depends on what the trade market looks like. We'll look at free agents, to be sure. But we have to be sure that any player we get will still be valuable to us at the end of his contract. At the end of the day, there would be no sense in matching the young players we have with players who aren't going to retain their value when the young players come into their own.

I'm not going to say it's 'tough' to replace Barry. It's impossible to replace Barry, and I really think people are minimizing that point. If Barry wasn't on this team, this team would have had a historically bad season when it came to getting on base and hitting for power. With Barry, "historically bad" was just "worst in the league." There aren't many players who could have done that on their own. But right now, we need to see what our young players can do. At the end of the day, knowing our own capabilities and limitations will be an important part of our rebuilding plan.

We need to have patience, but understand that patience doesn't mean we need to prepare to lose for an extended period of time. We have a fantastic young starting pitching core -- perhaps the best staff in the game with which to build. It isn't going to take much for this team to be on the fringes of contention. We've seen what a team on the fringes of contention can do. It's important, though, that we don't settle for the fringes. We need to see what we have right now, and complement it as best we can going forward. This organization has a lot going for it. It will be hard work, but at the end of the day this team will be back on top of the division.

And I will trade for one overpriced veteran, who Bochy has already nicknamed 'Checkers'. Regardless of what they say about him, we're going to keep him....

Comment starter: What would you have wanted Sabean to say in his post-Barry interviews? Responses both silly and serious are encouraged.

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Re: Clarification
"I quit."
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Sep 24, 2007 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

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seconded.
Pedro Feliz: Marginally better this year.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 24, 2007 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

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Winner!
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Sep 24, 2007 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

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"And I'm taking Peter Magowan with me. Have a nice day."
Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not facist: THE RETURN OF SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 24, 2007 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

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This is as good as this thread is gonna get. Bingo.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Sep 24, 2007 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

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If I had my way, it wouldn't be Brian Sabean explaining why he couldn't assemble a team.  He'd be sucking on the left tit of Ned Coletti down in LA, hoping for table scraps while managing to find a way to run the evil ones into the ground as well.

I've grown tired of his double speak and megalomaniac kind of attitude.  When a team is this bad sure it's reflective of the players and their performance, but the GM must step ahead and be accountable as well.  Something tells me that Brian would rather field a team with the worst record in the majors, than admit to some of his faults and try to go about correcting them.  

I adopted Omar and have nothing good to say about this team. Footy season has kicked off, so I don't watch the Giants much anymore.

by PacBellBoozer on Sep 24, 2007 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

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His whining about the bullpen is REALLY starting to grate on me. We've got young guys with a lot of talent still developing there, and he's playing this whole ego-crushes-morale card. Would you want to play for him if you were any of the guys in the SF bullpen, the way he rags on them on KNBR? I hate that crap.

And don't get me started on his inability to see young hitting.

I'm way beyond over Sabean.

***

Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Sep 24, 2007 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

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Yeah, I was pretty boggled by the amount of blame he was laying on the bullpen on Friday. He sounded as if he's still sulking over the fact he had to trade Benitez.

News flash: there's no bullpen in the league that can hold a 1-run lead for 3 innings day in and day out. ERA of 3.00 means over the course of 3 IPs you're going to give up one earned run. Only one bullpen in the majors is under 3.00, and that's only by a sliver (San Diego at 2.95).

SJ Giants, 2007 Cal League champs! Couldn't have done it without the All-Father.

by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2007 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

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Sabes is in serious denial about the offense. The bullpen scapegoat is such an obvious straw for him to grasp at.
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by hairball on Sep 24, 2007 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

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I like your uses of "at the end of the day," but I prefer my Sabeanspeak with a bit more "kick the tires"-ness. A few "counfoundings" would have been appropriate as well.  

by KCE on Sep 24, 2007 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

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it's too bad he never realizes anything at the beginning of the day...
Fairley odd parent to Wendell...

by Mark carry on on Sep 24, 2007 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

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When we complete our Coup of the Giants organization, I nominate Grant as the new GM.
Who dat is? That's just Ortmeier's daddy.

by rotorueter on Sep 24, 2007 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

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Personally, I'd like to hear him tell Ralph to fuck off.

I won't go the serious route because if he told us something serious, I'd immediately think he was lying, because he never tells us what he's thinking, he'll usually just tell us what he was thinking (and sometimes not even that.

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by BruteSentiment on Sep 24, 2007 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

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So I'm up to, what? 2 or 3 hypothetical shots?
Dave Righetti: You don't know him. / Read My Blog, Because I Write It

by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2007 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

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ahem . . . First off I would like to start this interview by saying that my huge man-crush affair with Ray Durham is over.  I'll always be hot and bothered for the sugarman, but he has been ordered as far away from this team as possible.  Second, I have taken comprimising photographs of Alex Rodriguez with his pet goat and a naked man who is not Mrs. A-rod.  He has summarily agreed to a contract in principle at 8 years for two million dollars per.  Gasp my spidey sense is tingling . . . I sense an unusal presence of scrappiness in the area.  OH NO, It's David Eckstein and his group of scrappy space monkeys.  He wants a 90-bazillion dollar contract for 10 years to start at shortstop, WE MUST FEND HIM OFF.  Baer, grab the uzi; Magowan, man the .50 cal!  (At this point, Sabean activates his chainsaw for an arm a la Evil Dead 2).  THIS IS SAN FRANCISCO.  After twenty minutes of a laser/chainsaw fight, Eckstein is defeated and the day has been saved.  Unfortunately, not all made it through!  NOOOO, Baer and Magowan have fallen.  Well, that sucks.  We might as well bury Tidrow and Lefebvre while we're at it.  Sabean lifts his hands above his head.  Unfortunately, Cain and Lincecum approach from behind and slit his throat.  They whisper, "who's failing at the little things now, motherfucker?".  Then, Sean Connery comes through the ceiling  

And the day is mine!  

Pedro Feliz: Marginally better this year.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 24, 2007 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

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I'll drink a hypothetical shot to that! As long as you're sharing that high quality hypothetical absinthe.
Dave Righetti: You don't know him. / Read My Blog, Because I Write It

by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2007 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

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I'm so going to see this movie.
SJ Giants, 2007 Cal League champs! Couldn't have done it without the All-Father.

by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2007 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

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produced by Quentin Tarantino and Sofia Coppolla.  Staring MATT DAMON and John Leguizamo.

Steve Buscemi will play Eckstein.

Pedro Feliz: Marginally better this year.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 25, 2007 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Steve Buscemi has too much talent to play Eckstein.

How about a retarded kid who really really tries?

Steve Kline: Pretty okay, but only on a whole season basis and not based on what he's doing now.

by groug on Sep 25, 2007 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

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so, adam sandler?
Pedro Feliz: Marginally better this year.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 26, 2007 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

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"Then, Sean Connery comes through the ceiling"

brilliant...

Bonds stands alone.

by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 24, 2007 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

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If we sign Jones/Hunter I'm going to get sick.

I would have like to heard Sabean say:

"I will not overspend on free agents this offseason. We'll use Bonds' ABs on one of our younger guys like Fred Lewis."

by xanthan on Sep 24, 2007 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

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I'd like to hear him say something like, "The ironic thing is, Barry can still play baseball."

Oh, wait -- Sabean actually did say that. Brian, you've been listening to too much Alanis Morrisette. The ironic thing is not that Barry can still play; the ironic thing is that the Giants could still use him in 2008 to score runs every once in a while, and have chosen not to. If Magowan is to be believed (never a sure thing), money never came up in the discussion about whether to bring Bonds back next year. So it wasn't a financial decision, or a baseball decision (unless one decides they want to field a team that can't score runs), it was a punative decision.

But okay, Bonds is not coming back. So how does Sabean rebuild this team? By admitting publicly that the 2007-08 FA class is weak, and signing a player in their early 30s to a large, long-term contract (hello, Torii Hunter and Andruw Jones) is not the solution. By trading young pitching not named Cain or Lincecum for young prospects that might bear fruit in 2009 or 2010. By offering Bochy a bonus for limiting Durham, Aurilia and Roberts' to under 200 plate appearances each next season, provided Sabean can't unload them beforehand. And by personally offering to pay 50% of Barrry Zito's contract for the remainder of the duration.

Last but not least, by apologizing to the bullpen for scapegoating them and implying they're the reason we have yet to win our 70th game. Just shameful.

Lon Simmons' adopted dad.

by Kitspool on Sep 24, 2007 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

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"When you sniff model airplane glue all morning like I do, you can see how you built the team this year, and swore it would contend."  

What I'd like to hear - "We're going to build a team based around starting pitching, defense, and contact hitting.  It'll be the most agonizing thing to watch in the whole, wide, world, but it will let us develop the talent we have.  Kind of like watching the D-backs."

Losing sleep on the East Coast since 1987...

by Dude In Athens on Sep 24, 2007 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

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I'd like him to say:

"Let's face it.  I'm a terrible evaluator of offensive talent.  I made about 2 good trades for offense in my time with the team, and those were to get Kent and Snow.  After that, bad signing after bad signing after bad trade.  I've never really bothered to learn what stats are out there, OPS, VORP, heck even OBP are basically just a bunch of letters to me.  Show me a good batting average and some power and I'll pretty much just assume the guy is good.  

"I can't draft offense for shit.  I mean look at these guys, when was the last time we brought up a position player that turned out to be more than a utility guy at best? Never.  So let's take stock: We have some pitching.  Great.  We have nothing to be excited about in the farm system, at least nothing that's less than 3-4 years away.  We have a bunch of guys who we can give playing time to next year, and we'll probably be about as bad as we were next year.  Heck, maybe we'll find one or two that can actually play, and the only way to find out is to let them have all the at bats.  

"That means no more mediocre veteran players.  Without Bonds we don't have the pressure to win right now.  We can let the young guys develop and see what we actually have.  Maybe I'll swing a trade where we give up a pitcher for some young offense.  It might not work out but at least we'd be trading from our strength to improve our weakness.  Wouldn't that be nice?

"So I'm sorry.  I'm sorry I've failed to draft and develop position players.  I went with a philosophy that worked for a while and I didn't adapt to changes in the game fast enough.  The strategy stopped working and I stuck with it too long.  So now I'm going to try to become better.  I'm going to make some changes in how I draft.  I'm going to look at our coaching throughout the minor league system and maybe fire some people.  Maybe I'll even fire Joe Lefebvre.  Maybe I need to hire a new assistant GM with a track record of developing position players.  I'm working on it.  And it wasn't the bullpen's fault.  

"Also, fuck the Dodgers."

But I doubt that's what he'll say.

2002? I'm over it. But I'll never be over Rich Aurilia.

by wjackalope on Sep 24, 2007 11:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Beautifully said.
Angels fly because they take Brian Sabean lightly.

by Mayor of 311 on Sep 24, 2007 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're way too hard on Sabes
He traded for Ellis Burks too.  That's 50% more trades for good offensive players than you think he made.
Steve Kline: Pretty okay, but only on a whole season basis and not based on what he's doing now.

by groug on Sep 24, 2007 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: You're way too hard on Sabes
Galarraga and Lofton were good deadline deals, even though they both turned out to be half-season rentals only.
SJ Giants, 2007 Cal League champs! Couldn't have done it without the All-Father.

by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2007 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: You're way too hard on Sabes
both good points.  He did make some magic happen in the past.  I miss that.
2002? I'm over it. But I'll never be over Rich Aurilia.

by wjackalope on Sep 24, 2007 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: You're way too hard on Sabes
I still think that Burks was his best trade, in terms of players on both sides turning out just like their historical performance.  That is, it was flat-out robbery.

by achiappanza on Sep 24, 2007 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Call from Sunset's Lawyer
Sabean's Secretary: Brian, Sunset's lawyer is calling... Something about an injunction from mentioning his client...
Angels fly because they take Brian Sabean lightly.

by Mayor of 311 on Sep 24, 2007 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

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"What our team lacked this year was creativity on the basepaths. We want to get guys moving at the top of the order in '08, and our top priority is to see if we can lock up Scott Podsednik to play left and Darin Erstad to play first."

by JSully on Sep 24, 2007 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

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Alternately, if he would acknowledge the fact that their farm system is effing barren and admit that there needs to be a drastic philosophical shift in how the San Francisco Giants analyze, develop and value players that would be swell.

by JSully on Sep 24, 2007 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Creativity on the basepaths?
Dave Righetti: You don't know him. / Read My Blog, Because I Write It

by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2007 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Jon Miller: "Rajai Davis on first. He gets a big lead. Here's the pitch, Davis is running across the diamond towards third base and the throw sails into left field! Davis gets up and HE'S SPRINTING TOWARDS THE BULLPEN AND SLIDES INTO THE BULLPEN HOME PLATE! SAAAAAAFE! Giants lead 1-0 here in the first inning."

Krukow: "That sure was some creative base-running by Rajai Davis."

Bonds stands alone.

by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 24, 2007 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

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When I think of creativity on the basepaths, I think of Ruben Rivera.
SJ Giants, 2007 Cal League champs! Couldn't have done it without the All-Father.

by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2007 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Joe Morgan: "That's how you win games, by doing the little things. Back when I was playing, Dave Concepcion used to bunt with nobody on base just to make sure he wouldn't forget how to lay one down."

by JSully on Sep 24, 2007 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

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I can't tell if this is parody or not...
SJ Giants, 2007 Cal League champs! Couldn't have done it without the All-Father.

by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2007 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Joe Morgan is a veritable gold mine of horrific announcing. If they ever stuck him with McCarver during a World Series the Yankess were in, the entire broadcast would be a 4-hour wet dream about Derek Jeter's calm eyes.

by JSully on Sep 24, 2007 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

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It seemed like something Sabes would say in regards to "what we're missing is guys doing the little things."

by JSully on Sep 24, 2007 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Sorry for stating this so seriously, without a shred of humor, but, I wake up every November hoping to hear...

"I'm sorry we haven't developed a superstar, or even star, hitter in decades.  If we can't draft one, I'll try to trade some pitching prospects for some hitting prospects.  We aren't going to pass up the Vlad Guerrero's of the world for the Michael Tuckers, BUT since we will need a couple years to get this thing going, we're going to sign some place marginal, place-holding veterans to sensible contracts and platoon them with our current soon-to-be-marginal younger position players we do have, until we actually figure out how to spend our money wisely, which may take a couple years too, instead of doing the whole patch work thing."

I rarely comment on this site, because my sentiments are usually echoed by all, but this one, I dream of hearing it so much, I had to post it.

Proud Adoptive Father of Brian Sabean's inevitable successor.

by Angry Mike on Sep 24, 2007 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

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"I have decided to ditch the 1997 all-star program as my scouting report.  I have now upgraded to the 2007 version."

by ResDog on Sep 24, 2007 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

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Two words: ". . .My bad."

Or it'd be nice to hear him say something along the lines of "I've decided that while we need speed and pitching, it won't hurt to find a few young players that can drive in some runs on a consistent basis.  We have the money to go out and sign a big attractive name, but given our recent record of track success and the length of the contract they're looking for, we figure it's best to not pursue them just for the sake of it."

Brian Anderson: converting saves and dominating as best he can.

by JT Jordan on Sep 24, 2007 12:46 PM PDT reply actions  

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"Vlad really was worth all those players I mentioned before.  I goofed that up, sorry."

by positiveuphemism on Sep 24, 2007 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

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I'd like him to quote any of the Star Wars dialogues, modified for baseball.

Maybe some "You can't win, Darth. If you strike me out I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine."

And so on in that manner. At least two positive things would come of it. 1) We'd know he actually has lost his mind. 2) Geek-squee.

Dave Righetti: You don't know him. / Read My Blog, Because I Write It

by howtheyscored on Sep 24, 2007 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

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"I'm going to trade Ray Durham for A.J. Pierzynski just so I can kick that big-mouthed double play-making motherfucker right in the groin."
Bochy: grounded until he stops hitting and running with slow runners and crappy hitters

by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 24, 2007 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

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Winner.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on Sep 24, 2007 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Just for the record, I would have started a slow clap if I had heard that speech.

by Grant Brisbee on Sep 24, 2007 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

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I'd like to hear something with some inflection; even if it meant a slight upswing in his voice upon using the word "veteran", or a sad lilt when referencing "youth". Emote, Brian, emote!
My son (Kevin Correia) is an honors student at Righetti Prep

by VidaWantsYourCar on Sep 24, 2007 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Clarification
I had a nice long post but then my system seized up and I lost it.

Mainly, I wanted to hear about 2008 being a rebuilding year towards returning to competitiveness in 2009, but didn't.

I didn't want to hear that we are going to spend $90-95M even if we are not targeting a major acquisition.

About the bullpen, here's how I see it.  There's nothing wrong with supporting the bullpen and saying that the bullpen is a major cause of our down year.  I like our bullpen, but they are young and developing, and so they are to "blame" in that their poor performance contributed greatly to us having a very poor season.

Their success rate in preventing inherited runners from scoring is only around 60%.  And only Kline is good at it, with his success rate in the 80's.  Red Sox and Cubs had a 76% success rate, Indians 72%.  Justin Speier, who we almost signed, had a success rate of 86%.

Moving our success rate from 60% to 75% would result in 37 more runners kept from scoring, which translate into approximately 4 more wins.  The Giants would then be 73-83 right now, instead of 69-87.  Remember, each win takes away a loss, so the bullpen accounted for approximately half of the games we were under .500.

If you add in that if they were that much more effective in keeping inherited runners from scoring, they would also be more effective in keeping runs from scoring period, that's additional wins that would swing the Giants way.  Just two more wins would push the Giants to 75-81.

"I'm a Giant now... I like watching the ball get up there" - Wendell Fairley "I'm really proud to be on this team." - Nate Schierholtz

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Sep 24, 2007 5:26 PM PDT reply actions  

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So what you're saying is with a better bullpen we'd still be in last place, but only 13 games out instead of 19. Either way we're eliminated.

That just reinforces the point. Sure, the bullpen could be improved. But Sabean doesn't seem willing to cop to the fact that the offense sucks, and that a big chunk of that is due to the veterans acquired or re-signed just last offseason: Durham, Klesko, Aurilia, and to some extent Dave Roberts (whose first two months were wretched enough that it's taken him the rest of the season to get back to only slightly below his career average, which wasn't that hot to start with).

SJ Giants, 2007 Cal League champs! Couldn't have done it without the All-Father.

by EliminateMe on Sep 24, 2007 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

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If you were precient enough to know that Durham would suddenly implode, Aurilia would have all sorts of physical problems, and Roberts would have a bad elbow, then you are the all-seeing oracle we have been waiting for.

But those problems, particularly Durham suddenly only hitting .643 OPS when he's been a career .800+ OPS hitting, is what caused our offense to be so poor this season.  Durham's problems by itself is probably what dropped us to next to last;  only 60 more runs and we are in the middle of the pack in the NL, not great but we would have been over .500 with that.  

I would also add that you forgot Feliz, I assume he's on your "didn't hit" free agent signing list.

"I'm a Giant now... I like watching the ball get up there" - Wendell Fairley "I'm really proud to be on this team." - Nate Schierholtz

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Sep 25, 2007 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

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Nope, no all-seeing oracle me. I was actually excited to see Aurilia return, and okay with Durham. However, plenty of other folks pointed out the injury risks of signing a bunch of 35+ year olds to play important roles on the team.

I didn't forget Feliz; I left him out because he has performed very predictably, consistently in line with his career numbers. The four that I identified have all performed moderately to staggeringly below their career averages.

Earlier in the season, Sabean made some noise about players not being ready to "answer the bell". I'd like to see some indication that he understands that depending heavily on 35+ year old players is more likely to result in unanswered bells.

SJ Giants, 2007 Cal League champs! Couldn't have done it without the All-Father.

by EliminateMe on Sep 25, 2007 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Three Words
Hari Kari Motherfucker
Barry Zito -- Catch Me if You Can.

by E Ticket on Sep 24, 2007 6:09 PM PDT reply actions  

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"hitting to the left side when you need to advance a runner from second to first. The little things."

Maybe this is one of the reasons for the low scoring? Trying to advance players from 2nd TO 1st usually doesn't give your SP lots of confidence..

by Roger Clemens on Sep 24, 2007 7:35 PM PDT reply actions  

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hahaha, nice catch!

by the way, I heard you play FOR THE YANKEES!!!11!!111

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Sep 24, 2007 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Yeah, I was starting to wonder when someone would catch on to that... and started an account here to mention as much. Hi!

by KyrieEleison on Sep 24, 2007 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

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I am still waiting for the call for next year for a team who needs some extra veteran savvy...

by Roger Clemens on Sep 24, 2007 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

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5 minutes after the season has ended, you will have about 10 voicemails from Brian Sabean.
Brian Anderson: converting saves and dominating as best he can.

by JT Jordan on Sep 24, 2007 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

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In the interest of belated full disclosure, I kind of nicked that joke from a Strongbad e-mail:
So, did you catch last night's episode of Popular Reality Show? Yeah? No? You missed a good one, man, you missed a good one! They were kickin' people off left and right, and, like, some people got kicked on, and um, I mean, it was... you shoulda watched it. You definitely shoulda watched it.
Kicking people on = moving runners from second to first.

by Grant Brisbee on Sep 24, 2007 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Clarification
"What would you have wanted Sabean to say in his post-Barry interviews?"

How about, "Oops, where did the rumor that Barry is not going to play with us next year get started? Of course we will sign our best player for 2008. You think I'm crazy?"

by Sayhey on Sep 24, 2007 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Clarification
Yeah, but Sabes needs to make room for Randy Winn to move back to left, his natural position. You can't have Bonds clogging up the basepaths AND left field...Winn's a base-stealer, let him put his wheels to work!

by JSully on Sep 24, 2007 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

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