"...they will not be bringing me back for the 2008 season".
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I am sad
Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: I am sad
by kingofthacove on Sep 21, 2007 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: I am sad
Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on Sep 21, 2007 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: I am sad
by positiveuphemism on Sep 21, 2007 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "...they will not be bringing
by rotorueter on Sep 21, 2007 3:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Barry
by southcitysteve on Sep 21, 2007 3:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This isn't over, methinks
by Kitspool on Sep 21, 2007 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: This isn't over, methinks
Assuming this is true for good, It will probably be the hardest thing I've ever done as a fan watching Bonds play for another team and rooting for the Giants team that he should be playing on. From an objective point of view, I just don't see how it could possibly be the right move for the franchise in 2008. As a fan, I would be devastated. Assuming it is true, I have to call bullshit on Magowan & Co., because it would be the fattest load of the stuff they've ever dropped at my front door.
Bah. Humbug.
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: This isn't over, methinks
Still, reading that made me sad. I really don't care if he's just saying that he loves the fans who supported him. I love him. That's all that matters to me.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 21, 2007 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: This isn't over, methinks
Then in my magical dream world, they resign him over the winter for a farewell tour.
by Merope on Sep 21, 2007 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "...they will not be bringing me
by Skaldheim on Sep 21, 2007 3:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by jponry on Sep 21, 2007 3:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Opening Day 2008
by Karlifornia on Sep 21, 2007 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Opening Day 2008
by sfgfan on Sep 21, 2007 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bah
by Skaldheim on Sep 21, 2007 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bye Giants
F Magowan and F the Giants.
They deserve no respect for this and they have lost a fan.
by positiveuphemism on Sep 21, 2007 3:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bye Giants
I say this because him playing for the Dodgers is a statistical impossibility.
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bye Giants
With the Angels he would have the best manager in the game and Vlad and I wouldn't put it past them to grab Arod, too. I'd like to see him win a ring.
by positiveuphemism on Sep 21, 2007 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bye Giants
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bye Giants
by PacBellBoozer on Sep 21, 2007 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bye Giants
by jponry on Sep 21, 2007 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bye Giants
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Sep 24, 2007 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow . . .
I really hope you didn't mean that.
by Anticon23 on Sep 21, 2007 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Wow . . .
by positiveuphemism on Sep 21, 2007 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Wow . . .
by Anticon23 on Sep 21, 2007 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Wow . . .
The dude is obviously pissed, as he should be. Who are you to tell him differently?!?
by PacBellBoozer on Sep 21, 2007 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Wow . . .
He has every right to be pissed. But saying "fuck the Giants," "they've lost a fan," and then attacking Wil is out of line, IMO. I know he's better than that, so I asked him to calm down.
If you have a problem with that, that's completely fine by me and I respect it.
by Anticon23 on Sep 21, 2007 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Wow . . .
by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2007 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Wow . . .
by Anticon23 on Sep 21, 2007 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Wow . . .
by E Ticket on Sep 21, 2007 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Wow . . .
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Wow . . .
by PacBellBoozer on Sep 21, 2007 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let ME say it then...
Then I tuned into "Baseball Tonight" , pretty much for authentication - I'd only heard this topic on McC , and you know what rumormongers those jokers are.
And as I saw/heard Magowan's little "declaration of separation"...what did he say , something about the season unraveling made them decide to move in a different direction...you could almost see him struggling not to pin it all on Barry but failing somehow...and I thought about the timing of this little drama , and the span of achievements the Giants have had as a result of Barry directly...and this just stinks.
They owe him a year...and they give him a week.
So Fuck Magowan , Fuck Sabean , and the Giants...well , they're fucked - but that's old news.
That IS all.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2007 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bye Giants
by rxmeister on Sep 21, 2007 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whew!
by zenbitz on Sep 21, 2007 3:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by stobgopper on Sep 21, 2007 3:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by stobgopper on Sep 21, 2007 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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But you may feel what you are saying sincerely, and I don't mean to attack that. Respectfully disagree, yes. But never attack.
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by stobgopper on Sep 21, 2007 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
[sigh]
But damn, I'm going to miss the big guy.
Thanks for everything, Barry. You are the man.
by UnleashTheGore on Sep 21, 2007 3:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Even Mays had to say good-bye
by wilriv21 on Sep 21, 2007 3:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
I know this is just your opinion, and I know why you feel this way because we've duked it out before, and I respect your position, but I have to call bullshit on the sentiment itself (not your personal feelings) because that's how I feel about it.
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
by positiveuphemism on Sep 21, 2007 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
by positiveuphemism on Sep 21, 2007 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on Sep 21, 2007 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are also...
by kenshin1 on Sep 21, 2007 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
psst...did that make any sense to anyone else?
yeah , to me.
'K , thx.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2007 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
5pm Presser
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/09/21/SPCHSBUV3.DTL
by wilriv21 on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
by EliminateMe on Sep 21, 2007 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
Please, let's keep the discourse civil and intelligent, the way it's been, for the most part.
Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on Sep 21, 2007 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
by E Ticket on Sep 21, 2007 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
by EliminateMe on Sep 21, 2007 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
by E Ticket on Sep 21, 2007 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
by EliminateMe on Sep 21, 2007 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Even Mays had to say good-bye
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "...they will not be bringing me back
I take the under.
by jponry on Sep 21, 2007 3:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by jponry on Sep 21, 2007 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "...they will not be bringing me back
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 21, 2007 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by jponry on Sep 21, 2007 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Veering OT
I say it here because I didn't say it when you initially brought it up, and this thread is depressing enough to drive me to drink an entire 750 mL bottle of vodka in one day, thus matching my record when I drank to kill the pain of the worst breakup ever.
So, ENGLAND. That is very cool. What are you studying there?
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 21, 2007 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Veering OT
I get to move into my hall tomorrow and then I have a whole week off before my classes start on the 2nd (this is going to be like... the shortest term ever. October 2nd to December 14th??).
So, I'll be doing some exploring.
But I probably need to go to bed soon.
by jponry on Sep 21, 2007 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Veering OT
by PacBellBoozer on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Veering OT
by jponry on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Veering OT
As a side note, do you plan on going to any matches while you're there? What I would do for a match-day programme...especially if the visiting squad is my beloved Newcastle (assuming that you're living in London for the year).
by PacBellBoozer on Sep 22, 2007 3:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Veering OT
by jponry on Sep 22, 2007 4:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Veering OT
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060719
Enjoy!
by PacBellBoozer on Sep 22, 2007 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Veering OT
I hope to do a similar study abroad in Japan. My sensei recommended some interesting contemporary Japanese literature in our classes. I have to go in the spring, though, for the puro yakyuu, or besoboru as they call it sometimes. :)
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 21, 2007 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Veering OT
Studying abroad is awesome, I hope you get to do it!
by jponry on Sep 21, 2007 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Veering OT
by Kitspool on Sep 21, 2007 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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All the Chaucer I recall...
by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2007 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Veering OT
by leftymalo on Sep 21, 2007 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If one person can buy one bottle of Vodka,
And so on, like that. It's just adding.
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "...they will not be bringing me back
by xanthan on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "...they will not be bringing me back
by jponry on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Kitspool on Sep 21, 2007 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "...they will not be bringing me back
I'mma take the under, though. Assuming the team doesn't sign anybody worthwhile. Which I think is a good bet.
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "...they will not be bringing me back
Watching Barry's decline in skills is something akin to watching Ali's...and that was bad. From a business standpoint it makes sense and doesn't at the same time. He 's still a draw , still produces as well as any of our other regulars (or is that as badly?) But yeah , 15 mil is a chunk or three. If they can't sign at least ONE good position bat (And why not two? Never mind availability , I don't deal in reality...) for that kind of money then they can go fu...then that's just sad. (I cleaned up the end of that sentence for the kiddies. You know who you are.)
by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2007 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you must be high....
by kenshin1 on Sep 21, 2007 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: you must be high....
I'm not saying his numbers weren't good , I'm saying they weren't Barry Bonds good.
Or am I obsessing with 2002/3?
Perhaps. It's fun. And maybe this was a Barry rebuilding year...but do you really think so?
Don't misunderstand me , I don't want him to leave under any circumstances...but I also understand that it's an inevitability.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2007 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "...they will not be bringing me back
by jponry on Sep 21, 2007 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bonds
It's kind of sad for me, at least, to see Barry go and not end his career as a Giant. I guess it parallels with what Mays did when he played his last season for the Mets. I'll always be a fan of Bonds because he was one of my guys. I think the city of SF owes him a lot, he was one of the reasons that the Giants could stay in SF and not go to some awful place like Tampa Bay (no offense D-Rays fans!)
So long Barry, thanks for everything.
by xanthan on Sep 21, 2007 3:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Say what?
by achiappanza on Sep 21, 2007 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Say what?
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Say what?
by achiappanza on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Say what?
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2007 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: I'm hoping for the classic ending
by Hac Man on Sep 21, 2007 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Say what?
Whether we're there or not we'll hear him.
Or did we just read the printed version , and that's it?
If so , then the Giants shat all over themselves like the Niners did with Jesus - er ,* Joe.*
by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2007 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Say what?
by positiveuphemism on Sep 21, 2007 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Say what?
Um...sorry again...
by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2007 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I r sad.
yeah its saving money, but for what?
I'll still root/watch with the same passion as ever, but damn, this stings.
by Andy from DC on Sep 21, 2007 4:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts
by PacBellBoozer on Sep 21, 2007 4:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They just never learn
by E Ticket on Sep 21, 2007 4:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: They just never learn
by PacBellBoozer on Sep 21, 2007 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: They just never learn
by E Ticket on Sep 21, 2007 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BARRY BARRY BARRY
by Natto on Sep 21, 2007 4:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: BARRY BARRY BARRY
by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2007 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my gentle jesus
by marcello on Sep 21, 2007 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sucks
How much would it have hurt the franchise to pony up for one more year? As much money as he's made for himself, he's also paid off in attendance boosts (around the league) and production on the field.
And you let him walk in his farewell year? This fucking sucks.
by otis29 on Sep 21, 2007 4:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
they will not be bringing me back for the
It's not right if he doesn't retire a Giant.
by Punch Rockgroin on Sep 21, 2007 5:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: they will not be bringing me back for the
I think this will prove to be the right move for the team even if it looks bad at first. It needs to learn to win without him and I wouldn't be astonished to see the players -- even those who admire/like him -- responding positively to the challenge.
This will also be the right move for Barry, assuming someone signs him as a DH. That's the job he's really suited for these days. I hate that it exists -- stupidest rule ever -- but since it does Barry should pad his figures with it just like Aaron and the other aging stars of the past 20 years (not to mention the one-dimensional hulks like Ortiz and Hafner). I honestly don't care which AL team gets him as long as I don't have see him go through the last stages of decline in a Giants uniform.
by NearestNorwich on Sep 21, 2007 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
'tis a sad day indeed
by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 21, 2007 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Am I a bad fan?
But I have already moved on. I have turned the page. I am looking forward to the future of the Giants. And that future does not include Barry on the field. And so it doesn't hit me that hard to find out he won't be here next year.
And, you know, for all of McGowen's faults, I still am thankful to him. It was Mr. McGowen and company that kept the Giants in the bay area. Not Barry. He was also the guy who brought Barry home in the first place. And he built the best ballpark in major league baseball.
by thehavenot on Sep 21, 2007 9:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
The way I see it, I want him to win a WS ring because he deserves it. And if he can't do it here, then I wish him the best of luck winning it elsewhere.
You're right in saying Magowan has done great things for the Giants- but this was long ago. I guess we should be and are thankful for that, but it's hard to remember when the present and immediate future are so damn bleak. I have lost respect for him, however, with the way he handled this situation. This should have been addressed at an earlier time. The fact that Barry JUST found out is ludicrous, IMO.
by Anticon23 on Sep 21, 2007 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
by thehavenot on Sep 21, 2007 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
That Magowan "saved the Giants" is an urban legend that he does absolutely nothing to dissuade. Exactly what you expect from a trust-fund baby with very few un-aided accomplishments of his own.
by E Ticket on Sep 21, 2007 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
Think the location/geometry is random?
Why not LEFT field?
This is the House That Was Built For Barry.
And now they're evicting him on short notice.
That's fucked up.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2007 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
Whenever someone talks about all the stuff Barry did for San Francisco and the Giants it kind of makes me roll my eyes.
It's not like he did all that stuff out of the goodness of his heart. He got an awful lot out of his baseball career.
<shrugs>
I don't think Giants ownership owes him anything else. They paid him a lot of money. They built a ballpark for him. They honored him again and again.
Evicted on short notice you say? They could have made this anouncement in December, says I.
Eh, anyways, like I said, I'm pretty ambivalent on the whole thing. Maybe I'm just not as big a fan as you.
by thehavenot on Sep 21, 2007 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
December 2006 might have been better...when I said "short notice" I'm actually thinking of how much time since the record was broken and his revenue potential plummeted.
THAT'S why , in my mind , the timing just stinks.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 21, 2007 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
by E Ticket on Sep 21, 2007 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
by thehavenot on Sep 22, 2007 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
by PacBellBoozer on Sep 22, 2007 3:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Goofus on Sep 22, 2007 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by NearestNorwich on Sep 22, 2007 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
by E Ticket on Sep 22, 2007 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by thehavenot on Sep 22, 2007 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
by E Ticket on Sep 22, 2007 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
Like I said below, I am quite willing to modify my opinions. But you have 1) verify your assertions and 2) cut the insults.
by thehavenot on Sep 22, 2007 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
Like I said below, I am quite willing to modify my opinions. But you have 1) verify your assertions and 2) cut the insults.
by thehavenot on Sep 22, 2007 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
by E Ticket on Sep 22, 2007 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
Apparently it's very important to you how Peter McGowen is viewed by others. I understand that now. You needn't have resorted to insults to get that across. All you had to say was "I really, really want you to hate Peter McGowen so stop your not-hating and start hating." That would have been more civil.
Maybe it was a tad rude of me to ignore your comment and respond to the other comment. I'm sorry, but I would have thought that one of the most consistent posters here would have a thicker skin than that.
I must admit, I didn't respond to you because I prefer not to get involved with people who are as negative and cynical as you. It's only a personal preference. Usually, internet posters are able to take things like that in stride (that would be without going out of their way to insult).
It's interesting that you talk about unsubstantiated opinions because you gave no evidence for your assertions. In fact, had I responded to you I would have asked for sources to back up your claims. If you are correct, whcih I am quite willing to believe you are, then I will modify my opinion based upon those facts. But forgive me if I don't just take your assertions as fact.
So, what I don't like isn't "being called out," it's being insulted with no provacation. I hope that clears things up. Hopefully you don't mind being called out on your uninformed opinions either.
by thehavenot on Sep 22, 2007 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Am I a bad fan?
by victor frankenstein on Sep 22, 2007 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by thehavenot on Sep 22, 2007 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by victor frankenstein on Sep 22, 2007 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by victor frankenstein on Sep 22, 2007 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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"I can't believe your ears either , Mr. Spook!"
- From the Mad Magazine spoof "Star Blecch"
by victor frankenstein on Sep 22, 2007 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Schierholtz...
by victor frankenstein on Sep 22, 2007 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by thehavenot on Sep 22, 2007 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by victor frankenstein on Sep 22, 2007 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "...they will not be bringing
First you can't let sentiment play such a big role in personnel moves, the only real goal is winning games. If your goal is to be competitive by 2009, both the $15 million and the at bats can be used more productively elsewhere.
Second I think everyone is underestimating the disruption Bonds causes the team. His own set of rules, his looming presence, the media in the locker room every single day asking the same stupid questions. I've never heard anything but how much the other players hate the whole circus.
Its a sad day, but let Barry go play some meaningful games and let the Giants work towards being good again.
by Stoned Slacker on Sep 21, 2007 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: "...they will not be bringing
1A) Getting rid of Bonds, aka: the only remotely legit 3/4/5 hitter on the roster at any level, will make the Giants an even less attractive destination to FA's, forcing the team to pay a percentage on top of competing offers to attract players (call it the 100-loss premium).
- I doubt the Giants could find a better use for Bonds' 400 ABs. Schierholtz is a right fielder, Davis and Lewis are platoonish 4th outfielders. Bonds' AB's will probably end up going to Winn or Roberts, both of whom should be traded (something I think is less likely to occur with Bonds out of the picture).
- Bonds is a draw. He may not sell as many tickets as he used to, but, just as important to the team, he will help get people with tickets to actually show up to the games. I don't know if he'd literally earn back the 15M in drawing power, but he'd be a better bet to do so than anyone else the Giants could sign with that cash.
by Bhaakon on Sep 21, 2007 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by otis29 on Sep 22, 2007 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who would YOU spend
Carlos F**** Lee? His defense is worse than Bonds' and his offense does not make up for it. Taking into account defense Lee is an average player. Being paid $100 million.
Alfonso Soriano? Better than Lee, in a good year, but not this year, arguably as good as Bonds or better. $136 million.
by rfloh on Sep 22, 2007 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: So who would YOU spend
They'll be worse without him, but last place is last place. The last thing a rebuilding team needs is an aged, cranky, expensive superstar. Hopefully Zito doesn't get cranky.
by Stoned Slacker on Sep 22, 2007 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it's a good thing
by rfloh on Sep 23, 2007 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "...they will not be bringing
Thats the point! It has more to do with that than anything else. That he is one of the top hitters in MLB is what makes this whole shitcanning episode so disagreeable.
The sentiment is coming from Magowan. It reeks of his inferiority complex. Thats the sentiment. Not Bonds. I don't know if you saw the Magowan Press Conference, but his body language was classic guilt and avoidance with his constant looking down and away and his rambling defensive mumbling about how respectful Bonds was. Pathetic performance by a little man with too much money and too much power. A pipsqueak is what he would have been referred to back in the day. A guy like him would have been run out of town in the 30s.
by E Ticket on Sep 22, 2007 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Stoned Slacker on Sep 22, 2007 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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He doesn't know as much as he thinks he knows about the game. Which is about as much as Bud Selig. Trivia mastery does not a baseball person make.
You can fool some of the fanbase all of the time and all of the fanbase some of the time, but he's not going to be able to fool all of the fanbase all of the time. Something that Mr. Lurie found out the hard way. Lurie and Herseth came in, heralded as heroes in 1976. By 1991, Lurie was heavily criticized. By 1992, he was villified. By 1993, he was disgraced and gone.
And like Lurie, Magowan has gone from an omnipresent media presence, to an occasional press conference. I give it until June of the 2009 season before mass media and fans start calling for his head on a stake. If that long.
If Bonds ends up in Oakland hitting bombs while the A's make a pennant run, and the Giants are still farting around under .500 with the illustrious Zito being promoted as the face of the franchise, I will not be alone in my antipathy for the Magowan era.
by E Ticket on Sep 22, 2007 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bummer
We're all Giants fans here (exepct for one who just became a former Giants fan). For those choose to vent your anger by attacking a fellow McCoven, I sure wouldn't want to be in a foxhole with you.
And oh yeah, f the Dodgers.
by Goofus on Sep 22, 2007 7:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Um , Dad?
WilRiv's a closet Dodger fan.
But spanking him just makes him smile.
by victor frankenstein on Sep 22, 2007 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by NearestNorwich on Sep 22, 2007 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by E Ticket on Sep 22, 2007 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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In this case I think Goofus should vent the fuck out of the place in such a way that everyone who is reading his words blinks a few times then slowly shuts down their computer and wanders away and then calls their mom to say "I love you." Afterwards they go for a run while stopping to smell the flowers.
Eventually they come home and fire up the ole PC and come back to this site and then check to make sure what they thought they had read was real. True to their eyes the post is excactly the same but now there is a newer more soul crushing post that is so full of emotion that the Alan Ginsberg rises from his grave and after consultation changes the name of his poem to "meh" and encourages Goofus to call his ode to Magown "Howl."
Goofus then becomes a multi-zillionaire and buys the team. He then goes on to have a pres conference where he calls out Magowan to a one on one in front of a national audience for the WWE championship. A stone cold stunner and a rock bottom later, Magowan is in a figure four leg lock, writhing in pain. The honorary referee, Bonds, then deuces in Pete's mouth, declares San Francisco the winner and signs a lifetime contract with the Giants to play till he can't any more and then be a hitting consultant.
Goofus then signs Arod, Andru Jones, and Dreamy (forcing Sabean to do the work) and fires Bochy. In a moment of kindness he gives Sabean the benefit of the doubt and allows him one more year to fill the holes in the line-up.
Goofus then sits back and consults with Grant and comes to the decision that none of this would have happened had it not been for the asshatery of giantsrainman and wilriv. He makes a post thanking them for being such gigantic fuckclown douches that they are no longer able to hold up the charade and stop posting. Mysteriously DodgerTop and DodgerBottom begin posting much more often at some shitty dodger blog.
by positiveuphemism on Sep 22, 2007 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Sayhey on Sep 22, 2007 5:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs




















