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Call me...out of ideas

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Billy Beane used to call Erubiel Durazo his "white whale", which meant that Durazo was a player Beane had coveted for a long time. "White whale" is a reference to the Mastodon album "Leviathan" , which rocks so hard that the white whale reference was rocked back in time to Beane before the album came out. There are still some holes in that theory, but if you can think of a more logical explanation for where the term "white whale" came from, I'd like to read it.

Point is, a white whale -- at least, in baseball terms -- is a player who you think would fit your team perfectly. My white whale used to be Asdrubal Cabrera of the Indians. He's a 21-year-old shortstop who is reputed to have a great glove. He had a fantastic season in AAA, and the Indians already had a long-term shortstop with Jhonny Peralta.

Alas, Cabrera is now close to untouchable. He's in the majors, and he's playing well. It probably would take something more than a Sanchez or Lowry to pry him away.

I've moved on. My new white whale is Steven Pearce. He's a right-handed hitter with power, he plays a position at which the Giants don't have any prospects, and he's blocked by Adam LaRoche. There are some problems, of course:

  1. The last couple of times the Giants have dealt with the Pirates, it, uh, hasn't gone so well for the Pirates. So the new GM for the Pirates probably won't be allowed to talk to Sabean.
  2. That's about it.
Still, I want Pearce on the Giants, and I'm willing to hold my breath for several minutes to get him on the roster. He's my new white whale.

Comment starter: Your white whale. Free agent or trade, who is the one player you'd target if you were a GM?

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Re: Call me...out of ideas
Mastadon, really? I could have sworn it was some kind of double entendre. I'm still not sure what each entendre would have been, but like your theory it's a work in progress...
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by howtheyscored on Sep 20, 2007 1:03 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
No, no. That white whale double entendre is a Billy Bean reference. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

by Grant on Sep 20, 2007 4:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Arod
/thread.

by awesomer on Sep 20, 2007 1:04 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Arod
+infinity
Brian Wilson for Closer!

by BawLa on Sep 20, 2007 1:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Arod

Woops...sorry there.  Just a bad habit of mine.

I adopted Omar and have nothing good to say about this team. Footy season has kicked off, so I don't watch the Giants much anymore.

by PacBellBoozer on Sep 20, 2007 1:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Moby Dick?
Who dat is? That's just Ortmeier's daddy.

by rotorueter on Sep 20, 2007 1:05 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
And I think that part of the reason Beane coveted Durazo for so long is that he knew he was going to be able to acquire him for less than he was worth.

Edwin Encarnacion sort of fits that for me---a young, inexpensive player with serious value that fills a major need on the Giants, and who is under-appreciated by his current club.

Who dat is? That's just Ortmeier's daddy.

by rotorueter on Sep 20, 2007 1:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Encarnacion's a good target, but I'm a little down on him. He hasn't made any progress this year, and he does seem to be pretty awful at third base. I think he's going to have to hit enough to play first.

by Evan on Sep 20, 2007 1:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
I just posted, but Encarnacion is a better pick than Fields - under appreciated by a bad organization that blames its best players for its failures (ie, Adam Dunn).
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Sep 21, 2007 11:46 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Whoby whatnow?
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by howtheyscored on Sep 20, 2007 1:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Whoby Whatnow
BAND NAME ALERT!
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 20, 2007 1:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Moby Dick is definitely where white whale came from.  

"The white whale itself, for example, has been read as symbolically representative of good and evil, as has Ahab. The white whale has also been seen as a metaphor for the elements of life that are out of our control, or God.

The Pequod's quest to hunt down Moby-Dick itself is also widely viewed as allegorical. To Ahab, killing the whale becomes the ultimate goal in his life, and this observation can also be expanded allegorically so that the whale represents everyone's goals."

by KCE on Sep 20, 2007 1:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
On a completely unrelated note, I was wondering recently whether there's a highfalutin Latin term for the literary device of "feigned ignorance", where the narrator speaks as though he/she is unaware of some fact that we, the audience, know he/she is actually aware of. I was hoping for some classy name like "metonymy" or "catachresis". Any help here?
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by EliminateMe on Sep 20, 2007 1:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
I almost get the feeling I'm being mocked.

by KCE on Sep 20, 2007 2:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
[nods head]
Can't w8 for '08!

by southcitysteve on Sep 20, 2007 2:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Paraleipsis is kind of like that ... but not quite.

It would be especially cool if you already knew the term you're pretending to look for.

by Evan on Sep 20, 2007 2:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That would be cool.
Unfortunately I am not as cool as that. In this case, my ignorance is completely genuine.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 20, 2007 3:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Scholars widely agree on the gayness of that book, too.

(Scholars = me)

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by howtheyscored on Sep 20, 2007 2:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Moby Dick = hella gay.
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by jponry on Sep 20, 2007 2:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
I can't believe you were able to access the Innerweb today from London. I thought the Jose Mourinho resignation blew out every DSL connection in the city.
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by Kitspool on Sep 20, 2007 2:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Hahahaha....Jose Mourinho...hahahahhaa...Chelsea is doomed!

Of course my boys just gave Derby their first and probably only win of the season.

I adopted Omar and have nothing good to say about this team. Footy season has kicked off, so I don't watch the Giants much anymore.

by PacBellBoozer on Sep 20, 2007 4:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
You're crazy. Stop being so crazy, Mr. Crazy.
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by Natto on Sep 20, 2007 1:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Moby Dick you say?
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by WalrusMan on Sep 20, 2007 2:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
I was thinking the same thing, but figured it was WAY too obvious...

by Jakespaar on Sep 20, 2007 4:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
No, I'm pretty sure Mastodon came up with the idea of the white whale, and then rocked it back in time to Melville.

I was worried that people would think I was serious, so I even put a Moby Dick reference in the title. Heh.

by Grant on Sep 20, 2007 4:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Ah, who knew?

I'd never heard of Mastodon, which either dates me or points out that I'm not into metal.  My preference in hard rock is more along the lines of SRV, Hendrix and Led Zeppelin...  

by Jakespaar on Sep 20, 2007 4:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Your worries were well-founded.

by KCE on Sep 20, 2007 4:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Chin-ling Hu.

This can happen. It's only a matter of time before Ned Colletti figures out that he can sabotage the archrivals to the north by dumping his prospects on them, thereby blocking the Giants from acquiring the savvy veterans that are the key to baseball success.

I just hope Sabean doesn't figure out some way to foil his fiendish plan.

by Evan on Sep 20, 2007 1:15 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Hey, that was going to be mine! Hu is perfect for the Giants. We have no shortstops at a high level, and the low-level ones aren't that great anyway.

The Dodgers need savvy veterans and/or pitchers, and  we gots plenty.

by Dan from NM on Sep 20, 2007 6:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
A) Find team whose organizational philosophy is to trade prospects for major league players = St. Louis Cardinals.
B) Find team in desparate need of starting pitching = St. Louis Cardinals.
C) Locate young potential power-hitting superstar that's near major league ready = Colby Rasmus of the St. Louis Cardinals.
D) For the love of God make a trade for Colby Rasmus of the St. Louis Cardinals!
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Sep 20, 2007 1:20 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
PS, on the bright side of Asdrubal Cabrera being taken off the trading field, Josh Barfield might be readily available. He's exactly the kind of player that would be worth taking a chance on for cheap.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Sep 20, 2007 1:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
I was thinking the same thing about Barfield. Too bad second base is one of the few positions at which we're not desperate for help.

by Evan on Sep 20, 2007 1:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
ok, so we're not all sold on Kevin Frandsen being a utilityman-for-life then.  I had no idea.
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by nick on Sep 20, 2007 2:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Jeremy Accardo
Derin McMains had five fingers, but he only used three.

by oooreebay on Sep 20, 2007 1:21 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Liriano...Nathan...

Cue the horse.

by KCE on Sep 20, 2007 1:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
I thought he was called the White Whale because he's pale skinned and portly.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 20, 2007 1:24 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
And I thought he was called the white whale because he's soft and easily flattened.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 20, 2007 2:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
That would make him very very white.
Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not facist: THE RETURN OF SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 20, 2007 2:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Kouzmanoff and Shin Soo Choo were my white whales last winter (that's a C-, at best). This year it's Alexei Ramirez.

by Goat on Sep 20, 2007 1:37 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
I'd love to get SS Jed Lowrie from the Red Sox. His stock is probably really high right now because of his breakout year. He hit (.297/.410/.501) at AA and (300/.356/.506) at AAA.

He played 2B in college for Stanford and is a little stretched at SS, his first step is slow from what I've read, but he is a patient hitter with some pop for a middle infielder. He's blocked right now by Lugo - I'm sure the Sox would much rather move Lugo - and Pedrioa has locked up the starting 2B job, leaving Lowrie no place to play on the Red Sox.

by xanthan on Sep 20, 2007 1:58 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Out of ideas? This one is great. I'm not ready to announce mine for this year yet, but the Cards Chris Duncan was definitely mine last winter. Clearly gotta be a bat again this year...

by BigO on Sep 20, 2007 2:00 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Steven Pearce was my white whale this year as well until I realized that the Pirates converted him to OF.  My guess is the Pirates will hang on to him.

I guess my white whale that the Giants could realistically acquire would have to be Yunel Escobar.  I love his swing and though it would be hard to pry him from the Braves, they do have a pretty stacked IF with Kelly Johnson, C Jones, Renteria and Lillibridge coming up.  

The Braves will defenitely be looking to upgrade their pitching staff and OF next year with A Jones leaving and lord knows we have plenty of pitching and young OFs.  I'd like Lillibridge too but Escobar is defenitely my white whale.

Can't w8 for '08!

by southcitysteve on Sep 20, 2007 2:12 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
I'm also on the Yunel bandwagon. One Escobar to go, please.
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by Lyle on Sep 21, 2007 9:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Keith Law mentioned Pearce in his chat today...followed by "he's nothing special" or something like that...

just sayin'...

Fairley odd parent to Wendell...

by Mark carry on on Sep 20, 2007 2:12 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
...of course in Giants speak that probably means something like, "he'd be the best player on the 2008 Giants"...
Fairley odd parent to Wendell...

by Mark carry on on Sep 20, 2007 2:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

weird
people I know use the term "white whale" to refer to the last person to leave a party.  Like: "I was there till like 3:30 in the morning.  I totally white-whaled that party."
2002? I'm over it. But I'll never be over Rich Aurilia.

by wjackalope on Sep 20, 2007 2:23 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: weird
really?  my parties were more about the white horse than any white whale.
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by Hac Man on Sep 21, 2007 4:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Scott Olsen. Yeah, he sucked this year but:
  1. He averaged nearly a strikeout an inning in his first 200 big league innings with good control (over 2 K/BB)
  2. He's left-handed, 23 years old and only 2 years of service time.
  3. He had a whole mess of problems this year so his stock dropped in a big way.
He's younger than Lowry and more talented but doesn't have that shiny ERA. Another guy is Rick VandenHuk, a 22-year old righty with the Marlins. He's 22 and has averaged a strikeout an inning during 17 starts with the big club this season. Has major trouble finding the plate (5.33 BB/9!) but he's only 22. Carlos Quentin obviously qualifies due to the foolish extension Moorad decided to give Eric Byrnes.

by JSully on Sep 20, 2007 2:46 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Nicely done.
 I like the Olsen idea, and we've already got his buddy "Mess". Apparently they have been pining for another since the separation (though Randy still thinks he's in Fla sometimes, because of the hat). Dunno about Vanden Hurk.
I also mentioned the Quentin possibility to a friend the other day, and he poo-pooed. He's had a terrible year - and folks say that most AZ players have way inflated minors stats - but I seem to remember him hitting the ball REALLY hard when he first came up.

by BigO on Sep 20, 2007 3:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Quentin has hard injury troubles this year. I think that could be the reason for some of his problems.

I like Quentin as a potential buy cheap sorta guy, but wheres he going to play? The Giants OF is pretty full.

by xanthan on Sep 20, 2007 3:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

definitely Joey Votto
it wouldn't happen now that he's ready and the Reds are done with Hattyburg. I'd love to get Joey Votto to play 1st base.

smaller, lesser white whales would be: Joe Koshansky and Kendry Morales.

Andy LaRoche would be like a white dolphin or something....

Bonds stands alone.

by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 20, 2007 3:04 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: definitely Joey Votto
Agree, I wanted that guy in the SF organization for the past year or 2.  Rare combo of power and average  and since Niekro, Hillenbrand and Feliz weren't working out I thought it would be a good pick-up at the time. I think he was #3 or #4 on the Red's depth chart at first base.

Not going to happen now, looks like they gave him the first base job.  I'm guessing he ends up being Rookie of Year in 2008.

by seyheystretch on Sep 20, 2007 5:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Brandon Wood
I'd like to see Sabean somehow pry him away from the Angels. Sure, he strikes out a lot, and he's only hitting .160 against big league pitching right now, but we need a SS/3B guy with pop. I realize he's one of the top prospects and we'd have to give up a lot to get him.
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by Kitspool on Sep 20, 2007 3:23 PM PDT   0 recs

Mighty Casey has not struck out
Thought the story of catching a white whale was that it engrossed oneself until finally caught. Still would like to have Casey Kotchman as SF Giants 1B, however, making a deal with Bill Stoneham is difficult.

by wilriv21 on Sep 20, 2007 3:38 PM PDT   0 recs

Jordan Brown
Jordan Cassidy Brown

Akron Aeros (1B/OF)

Jordan Brown is an example of a guy we could actually pry away. He just graduated AA and he's not built like a monster truck, making him less likely to garner attention as a 1B prospect. Unfortunately he screwed things up a little by winning the Eastern League batting title! Still, he's blocked by Indians' cornerstone (who is built like a monster truck) Travis Hafner and Ryan Garko.

He's on the older side at 23, but he hasn't been held back at any level.

2006, Carolina (A) - .836 OPS
2007, Akron (AA) - .905 OPS

Good discipline, could develop HR power, but should be solid doubles-type for our ballpark.

p.s: Jed Lowrie would be a nice add if we could get him. Unfortunately he rebounded this year and seems bound for the show as a Red Sock.

by Nathan on Sep 20, 2007 3:45 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
My white whale is Ichiro. I would pay the price of admission, just to watch this one guy play outfield for the Giants (much like Barry Bonds in his prime).

Since Ichiro obviously isn't going anywhere, I like Joe Nathan, for karmic balancing reasons. (although with Sabean's karma, we would be looking at 4 yrs/$44m for a blown out arm).

Can I make an entire turn-over of Giant coaches my white whale?

Manager: Steve Decker
Bench Coach: Bob Brenley
Hitting Coach: Dusty Baker
1B Coach: Will Clark
3B Coach: Robby Thompson
Bullpen catcher: Mike Matheney

Also, sign Scott Garrelts as minor league bullpen coach.

Defender of Noah Lowry.

by Kid Fresh on Sep 20, 2007 3:47 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
My white whale would have to be Morgan Ensberg.  I do not have any real good reasons why, but for some reason I have always liked him.  He is obviously not a prospect anymore and some say his shoulder is still not right, but part of me believes he is not totally finished.  It probably won't take much to get him and the fact that he is not Pedro Feliz is the most appealing to me.  Although with his defense he may not be that big of an upgrade.

If nothing else he could play 3rd and 1st against lefties if we can somehow acquire better options at those spots.

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by sfgreg on Sep 20, 2007 4:06 PM PDT   0 recs

Mmmm
My white whale is cake. Rich, chocolate cake. It stole my life from me and now I'm out for revenge.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 20, 2007 4:17 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
My white whale would be Terry Ryan, ex-GM of the Minnesota Twins who just left his post there. Wouldn't he be a nice replacement for Brian Sabean?
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on Sep 20, 2007 4:50 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Jerry Owens of the Sox.

by thevaultsky on Sep 20, 2007 4:59 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
The whole point to the white whale is that it's unobtainable. There's also hate and destrucitve tendencies involved. If the Giants were to try and 'land' such a player, which due to the nature of the universe they can't, they'd destroy the franchise trying. Sounds suspiciously like the whole disastrous pursuit for Barry Bonds home run record eh? Maybe they should rename the stadium the Pequod?
  As a future White Whale why not Johan Santana? Zito should come around late next season with the Giants in the cellar. We ship Zito off to a desparate-for-starting-pitching-depleted Yankees, who have always thought highly of Barry Zito. Don't ask why.
With the money saved we sign Santana when he becomes available in 2009. (You notice I'm already holding my nose and looking beyond 2008?)

 

by DiMaggio Fan on Sep 20, 2007 5:10 PM PDT   0 recs

How much crazy/old man are you?
I stopped counting the crazies in your post at 5 and that was only after the 1st paragraph.

by awesomer on Sep 20, 2007 5:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
"The whole point to the white whale is that it's unobtainable... Sounds suspiciously like the whole disastrous pursuit for Barry Bonds home run record eh?"

Ummm, except he got the record and we would have sucked anyway.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 20, 2007 5:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
And before jumping on me and saying the second thing wasn't connected to the first thing, your logic ran through from the first sentence to the third before you changed your train of thought.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 20, 2007 5:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hold it--
you mean "wide wale" doesn't refer to corduroy?
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by Mayor of 311 on Sep 20, 2007 5:29 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Lighten up guys - unless you think Bonds home run chase wasn't destructive to the team. Now that's crazy!

by DiMaggio Fan on Sep 20, 2007 5:36 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
So we'd be in the playoffs if Bonds hadn't been breaking a record? Is that the idea?
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by howtheyscored on Sep 20, 2007 5:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
Of course the team wouldn't make the playoffs - just that the mess wouldn't be obscured in all the hoopla. Maybe Sabean would not have been rehired!
Like a glossy paint job and a garden party while the termites are eating the building apart from the inside.
As for the record - that may yet turn sour. We've got the ball set for God knows what fate - fired off into space? We've got an unforgiving prosecutor - we've got George Mitchell - Pyrrhic Victory seems still possible.
But Bonds shots were still fun, I admit.

by DiMaggio Fan on Sep 20, 2007 5:55 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
So, if you want to reply to a comment, you click "reply to this" underneath that comment. At least try to confine your nonsense to the actual content of your posts, as opposed to also f***ing up the thread by posting your comments in the wrong spots.

by taliesin on Sep 20, 2007 9:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It just doesn't click sometimes
Hey, it's tough enough around here, so take it easy on Dimaj.

I think he once told us that as a kid he actually watched the Yankee Clipper.

Who've we seen lately that we can post about fifty years from now? Gettysburg Feliz?

;-)

by Moggeee on Sep 20, 2007 10:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Call me...out of ideas
EDWIN ENCARNACION!!!
he is batting something like .290 with 14 home runs as the reds everyday third baseman and hes only 24 years old
i know angel villalona is really good and all but i've heard he might have to make the move to first base despite his strong arm (he made 18 errors in 52 games while in rookie ball)

Plus the reds are in need of some pitching
like a lot of pitching

Giants rebuilding strategy: making more trades with The Pirates

by Frogger91w9 on Sep 20, 2007 8:37 PM PDT   0 recs

Edwin Klesko Encarnacion
got no power.  Go to the Reds site, look at Stats, sort the hitters by Slug Percentage.
7 guys who play regularly are ahead of mighty Ed, and only the rookie leadoff hitter and the catcher are behind him. (4 outfielder system with Griffey out a lot)
Yep, sounds like Sabe will sign Ed E to hit cleanup
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by foothillsfan on Sep 21, 2007 1:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Edwin Klesko Encarnacion
And yet, that .439 SLG would rank third behind Bonds and Molina on the Giants, and only barely behind Molina, at that. Sad, innit? (I realize park effects account for a chunk of that, but still...)
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by EliminateMe on Sep 21, 2007 1:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Dude. Holy Grail, not white whale
Either that, or maybe Durazo wore retro pants: wide wale.
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by monkeyball on Sep 20, 2007 8:39 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Dude. Holy Grail, not white whale
The Mayor already covered that one.
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by Natto on Sep 21, 2007 1:27 AM PDT