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Baseball when you were a kid

As thrilled as I still am about last night, all of this has made me nostalgic for the baseball days of my childhood years, the stuff of fathers and sons.  It's the good stuff, and the not-as-good stuff, that gets churned up every time "Field of Dreams" is on TV, and every time Barry swings and connects.  

I'm curious to hear some of your memories as well, especially as a Giants fan who grew up on the East Coast and did not have as geographically close a connection with the team as many of you did.  

And a big tip o' the hat to Baron and her awesome post for bringing some of this back to me.

Star-divide

The good:

*I miss Will Clark, the "Nuschler" as Krukow dubbed his game face, and everything about the way he played.  I'm a righty, but I learned to swing the bat left-handed so I could imitate his swing.  I had an album containing hundreds of Clark, Mitchell, Williams, and (later) Bonds cards.  He is the only athlete I've ever truly idolized, I supposed mostly because he came along at exactly the right time.

*Every summer my family would stay for a couple of weeks at my grandmother's house in suburban Philly, and we always timed it to coincide with the Giants' series against the Phillies.  And every summer, while the others headed for the shore, my dad and I would go to the concrete soup can of Veterans Stadium to watch the Giants.  The best seats we ever had were wasted on Terry Mulholland's no-hitter (when he was a Phillie, of course, not during one of his 17 stints with the Giants).

*On one of those trips to the Vet, my dad and I got there really early and hung out by the players entrance to try to meet a Giant, any Giant, and we would have settled for a Phillie, I guess.  But we met Harry Kalas, and he was such a classy guy, and extremely nice to me, and as a 9 year-old wearing nothing but orange and black, I thought that was pretty damned cool.

*I remember breaking an overhead light in our kitchen when I jumped up to celebrate (of all things) a JT Snow home run.

*When I was in elementary and high school, my Dad used to leave Giants updates for me on the bathroom sink ("The Hand SportsTicker," as he called it- Hand being our last name) to fill me in on stuff that happened late the night before.  Don't ask me why, but the one I'll always remember is "THE GIANTS SIGN WILLIE MCGEE!"

The not-as-good:

*In 1987, Jose Oquendo made me cry.

*On an early July morning in 1993, I was watching "SportsCenter" and they showed the win/loss record the Braves would have to have for the rest of that season to catch the Giants, assuming the Giants played at a certain winning percentage.  I literally said, out loud, "Yeah, right."  

*That Mulholland no-hitter.

*The entire '96 season.  My senior year in high school, and the lamest Giants season of which I've ever been fully cognizant, and that includes the season in which we currently find ourselves.

I'm leaving a lot out.  Thanks for indulging me.  What say you?

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Re: Baseball when you were a kid
For someone who has an overwhelming influence in my life by getting me into sports, my father hasn't spent much time with me. To do anything, let alone watch sports. We were real pals when I was very young, and I have faint memories of sitting on his lap watching sports with him on TV. My father is visiting California for the first time in about ten years and we will spend the whole weekend together. I hope we can make new sports memories this weekend.

Oh and Baron is a girl btw. :)

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not facist: THE RETURN OF SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 8, 2007 2:46 PM PDT   0 recs

refresh
Barry Bombs gear | comics | Ray Durham is... yeah.

by Natto on Aug 8, 2007 2:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: refresh
Wow you really do have the power.
Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not facist: THE RETURN OF SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 8, 2007 2:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: refresh
*wiggles fingers in mystical, spooky manner*
Barry Bombs gear | comics | Ray Durham is... yeah.

by Natto on Aug 8, 2007 3:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: refresh
Natto is amazing. Can he change Grades too?
Davis: Originally a 38th round selection of Pittsburgh in 2001 out of the University of Connecticut-Avery Point.

by Whipping Boy on Aug 8, 2007 5:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
My bad.  Sorry 'bout that.  :)
I'm a Giants fan because my dad realized at a very young age that the Phillies suck.

by oneflapdown on Aug 8, 2007 3:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
Not a problem.
Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not facist: THE RETURN OF SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 8, 2007 3:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
For whatever reason, I can't remember a single game I watched when I was a kid, but I absolutely adored Will Clark and Matt Williams. I have fond memories of collecting magazine/newspaper clippings of them, drawing pictures of them, and envying my friend's rookie cards (I didn't get my own until a couple years ago). Watching Barry Bonds do what he does best brings back the kid in me. I so want that Will Clark bobblehead they handed out a couple weeks ago.
Barry Bombs gear | comics | Ray Durham is... yeah.

by Natto on Aug 8, 2007 3:13 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
I love stories about how people adopted their particular batting stances. It's so cool to me that you bat lefty even though you're a righty BECAUSE of Will Clark! That's so cool!

The only thing that I ever took from a ballplayer (I was determined as a child not to imitate... I wanted something 100% individual. still, when it comes to Barry, even the best of us make allowances); the only thing that I ever took from a ballplayer for my swing was Bonds's characteristic bat wiggle that falls so far and so quickly across the front of his head.

It was just too cool not to do. And it really feels great.

Other than that I just refined everything else to feel like it was "me." I love the high back elbow. I do this thing where my bottom thumbsticks up and covers the tops of my top hand's fingertips (instead of being tucked away fist style). Small step into the swing. I used to swing strictly line drive even keel, but I incorporated a bit of a power upswing when I realized I had a little bit of drive.

But the Bonds wiggle makes the whole thing. Really.

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Aug 8, 2007 3:20 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
I do a toned down version of that "wiggle", too.  It gives you a sense of power, no?

by sfgfan on Aug 8, 2007 3:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
It really, really does.

It gives me a sense of "tensioning" when the pitch is coming if that makes sense. The wiggle itself is so relaxed and natural, and then when the pitcher starts his motion and you stiffen it up I feel like I'm storing all of that loose motion very quickly with such a short tense motion to release suddenly on the oncoming pitch.

It's very cool.

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Aug 8, 2007 4:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
I do the waggle too. And toe tap. I also learned how to hit lefty by watching him believe it or not. I figured the ability to hit from either side would be a hit with the ladies. I was wrong. I underestimated that making actual contact with the ball is a tad more important.
Adopted Giant: Randy Winn. Can't wait for Zito to start Opening Day '08 so I can get a leg up on my drinking.

by Punch Rockgroin on Aug 8, 2007 7:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
Re: The ladies

I don't think it was being able to hit from both sides that didn't get you the ladies. I think it was that you failed to see, and therefore appropriately apply, the analogy in that phrase.

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Aug 8, 2007 7:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
I just got told?
Adopted Giant: Randy Winn. Can't wait for Zito to start Opening Day '08 so I can get a leg up on my drinking.

by Punch Rockgroin on Aug 8, 2007 7:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
I'm not sure what I did, really...
Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Aug 8, 2007 7:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
You're a sly one.
Adopted Giant: Randy Winn. Can't wait for Zito to start Opening Day '08 so I can get a leg up on my drinking.

by Punch Rockgroin on Aug 8, 2007 8:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Memories
Going to games with my Pops @ the shithole in Flushing, AKA Shea Stadium. DC-10s overhead and relievers coming in from right field in the Metmobile. Really bad mid-70s Mets teams with a couple (OK, one) bright spot: Tom Seaver. Oh yeah, and I was a Kingman fan before I converted to the Church of On-Base Percentage.

Took the old man to his first game at the Big Phone this year, and he had a great time. That's one I'll remember forever.

Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.

by delorean on Aug 8, 2007 3:42 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
I adopted the Giants somewhat out of pity; Dad had already taken me to an A's game, and they were still riding pretty high at that time (mid-70s), with many of the stars still on the roster, a field of natural grass, and a classically-shaped baseball stadium. So to attend a game at Candlestick was somewhat disorienting; where are all the people? why is the (artificial) grass different shades of green? why is the outfield fence chain-link with no bleachers behind them? why is the stadium enclosed? It was rather sad, really, but also intriguing, for it was hard to fathom that each team was in the same professional league. So I started asking around and doing some research, discovering soon enough that these Giants had a long tradition filled with great players and seminal moments in baseball history. Well, this was perfect: I could not only take them in as one would a stray dog found loping along in a rainstorm, but also with the understanding that this stray was once Best in Show, with the pedigree to get back on her feet one day. And so it has gone from that day forward...sometimes prancing around the show floor, sometimes curled up wimpering in the dog house, but they're mine; geographically and all points true north.
For just pennies a day, you too can make a difference in the life of a Giants player...like Kevin Correia.

by VidaWantsYourCar on Aug 8, 2007 3:49 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
Your last name is hand?  Aloha, Mr. Hand!

My memories as a kid are playing youth baseball.  The games and practices were cool, but a better memory is just hanging around the little league fields with my friends, playing pepper, playing pickle, watching friends' games when my team wasn't playing, eating tons of sugery crap from the snack bar.  We used to practically live at the fields.  Doesn't seem so much that way anymore.  Kids show up for practice or a game, then leave.

You've heard of guys who always hang out at the basketball courts referred to as "gym rats"...guess you could say we were "field mice".

Bold Prediction: Klesko will finish the 2007 season with at least 20 HRs. (OPS+ is 129 as of 7/1/07)

by Goofus on Aug 8, 2007 4:12 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
Aloha, Mr. Goofus!  And thanks for sharing!

I've been around these parts for a while, but I usually don't say a whole lot, so it's awesome to hear back from all of you when I do stick my neck out...

I'm a Giants fan because my dad realized at a very young age that the Phillies suck.

by oneflapdown on Aug 8, 2007 5:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
Yeah, I was glad you clarified the "Hand Sportsticker" thing. I briefly considered and rejected several possibilities before reading your explanation...
Your 2012 NL ERA champion: Sergio Romo

by Lyle on Aug 9, 2007 4:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
It was the senior Hand duty to supply the morning sports news.

(Notice I said "duty" and not "job".)

Bold Prediction: Klesko will finish the 2007 season with at least 20 HRs. (OPS+ is 129 as of 7/1/07)

by Goofus on Aug 10, 2007 6:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
Yeah, it wasn't really the ideal surname to have through junior high.

It also accounts for my severe pun phobia.

Plus, I was a really scrawny kid, and my middle name is Richard, so I pretty much might as well have had the "Everlast" logo stamped on my forehead.

I'm a Giants fan because my dad realized at a very young age that the Phillies suck.

by oneflapdown on Aug 10, 2007 7:09 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
Wow!  I got to hand it to you.  I have no idea how you handled that.  I think we should give you a great big hand. (golf clap)
Bold Prediction: Klesko will finish the 2007 season with at least 20 HRs. (OPS+ is 129 as of 7/1/07)

by Goofus on Aug 10, 2007 4:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
World Series was our game of choice: self-hitting a fair distance from a fence, one/two kids up front (the infielder), one/two in back (outfielders); grounder past the IFers=single, liner/pop between IF and OF=double, hitting the fence on a fly=triple, over the fence=homer. Man, that was fun. Thanks for reminding me of this, Goof.

In fact, I want to play after dinner tonight. I don't think I'll be able to scare up enough kids, though. They're all riding their skateboards trying to jump onto the sidewalk unsuccessfully for the 975th consecutive time.

I say to Kevin Correia what Laurence Olivier said to Neil Diamond in The Jazz Singer: "I hef no son!"

by VidaWantsYourCar on Aug 8, 2007 6:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
I remember that game!  Also remins me of "3 flies up" and "500".  Kruk and Kuip were talking about 500 the other night.  They played it so you had to hit 500 on the nose.  We didn't play it that way.  Guess that's why we didn't end up in the bigs, huh?  :-)
Bold Prediction: Klesko will finish the 2007 season with at least 20 HRs. (OPS+ is 129 as of 7/1/07)

by Goofus on Aug 9, 2007 6:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
When I think back to baseball, Giants at least, my memory always wants to go to a particular night game at the 'Stick. I can't recall the exact year, but it was sometime in the mid '80s shortly before Humm Baby came to town. My buddy and I had great seats down the first base line, just a couple rows from the dugout. Although it was a night game, the weather was unbelievably beautiful, mild, very little wind. Mark Davis was on the mound, this was back when the Giants were still hoping and praying he would pan out as a starter and kept running him out there, usually with explosive results. That night he was on, through the first five innings or so, he was flat out dominating, while the Giants easily put up several runs early. It looked like a blowout. Then the Mark Davis we all knew showed up on the mound in the sixth and started serving up doubles and the game turned around in a flash, a torrent of atrocious baseball with the Giants on the wrong end, as was often the case in '84, '85.

Despite all the bad things there were about that game, my mind nevertheless relishes the memory. All my friend and I could do was marvel at the wonder of badness that was the Giants teams of that time and my youth. My buddy used to taunt Joel Youngblood, he of the Howitzer throws that overshot their target on their way to Sausalito. Youngblood played third that night and, boy, did my friend regret all of his ribbing, fearing an errant missile was bound to miss first base and slam right into us. We survived and lived to tell about it.

by crazy crab on Aug 8, 2007 5:17 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
Giants "Youth Memories:" Chili; Will Clark with the eye black, Uribe & Thompson turning two, Roger Craig & Humm Baby, Kruke winning 20, Dave Dravecky, great trades from Al Rosen including MVP Kevin Mitchell, watching Matt Williams develop, a bevvy of 20-game winners, incredible closers in Beck & Nen...

I cried watching the Jose Oquendo game. There, I said it. I was 17. First and last time I cried over a baseball game of any kind.

 (Although my psyche probably would be healthier if I cried during game six of the last World Series vs. the Angels. Who know what repressed feelings of angst the Giants have created within me.  Please, Giants, win a World Series so all this cathartic crap can spill out of all Giants fans. 54 years of redemption are needed. Thank you.)

Defender of Noah Lowry.

by Kid Fresh on Aug 8, 2007 6:47 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
I also grew up a Giants fan on the East Coast, thanks to my dad.  We were never able to go to games because the Nats weren't around and the Giants have only been to Camden Yards once, which  was like four years ago.  Now that we do have the Nats out here, I'm sure to try and go to at least one Giants game with him every season.

The first cognizant memory of the Giants I have was on a family trip to CA when my Great-Grandmother gave me a Will Clark "The Thrill" t-shirt and shorts outfit when I was like 7.  My first big Giants baseball year was the summer of '93, which helps explain my generally pessimistic demeanor when it comes to this team. It was that summer that one of my (Giants fan) uncles gave me a baseball signed by every member of the '93 team.  That ball features not only Bonds, Clark and Williams, but other such Giants luminaries like Bryan Hickerson, Craig Colbert, grimacin' Trevor Wilson, John Patterson, and Mark Carreon.

Of all the Giants stories my dad tells me, my favorite story is when the Giants of McCovey were down 8-1 to the Pirates of Clemente going into the ninth.  He was listening on the radio with his weirdo Pirates fan brother before they went to sleep.  My uncle was gloating, although his attitude ran the gamut of a 12-stepper as the Giants eventually came all the way back to win.

by GiantsTribe on Aug 8, 2007 9:02 PM PDT   0 recs

Re: Baseball when you were a kid
Ah, the memories.
I grew up on the Peninsula, and my first, hazy memory was watching the end of Willie Mays' time before he got traded to the Mets. I went to some games with my dad and my older brother, but my dad has always had a bad back, and so we didn't go to many games, since cold plastic isn't good for bad backs. I now know (at 40) what he felt like. I cannot fathom what Candlestick was like before it was enclosed. My God.

Another memory I have is of having seats behind the Braves dugout around '74 and watching Hank Aaron hit about five foul balls somewhere into the stratosphere, and three of them came down within 50 feet of us (excepting the other 1500 or so in the park that night!). I will never forget watching the ball come down and how the wind blew it all over the place. At that point I got an appreciation for anyone who had to try to catch a fly ball at Candlestick. It was very eye-opening.

I often make references to Johnnie LeMaster. Mainly because he symbolized the futility of a lot of the late 70's-early 80's teams that my friends and I saw, games in which Johnnie Lee had a ball go between his legs, off his glove, take a bad hop off his shoulder, etc., generally with runners on base in the late innings and the score tied. Often those baserunners were Dodgers or Reds. Grrr. I think now it's unfair to target JLL since the teams were generally crap (outside of Jack Clark), and the experience of seeing a bad team combined with Candlestick's unique "aura" led us to....uh, well, now.

And then the hot dog wrappers blowing all over, the fog blown everywhere by the late-night wind, the smell of hot dogs, the sound of drunk people yelling at Pete Rose....when the Pirates were playing, the cops breaking up fights in the left-field bleachers, people burning Dodgers pennants on top of the dugout with others screaming for blood....in other words, the good old days.

by Van Smack on Aug 10, 2007 9:39 AM PDT   0 recs

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