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Flash:

It took a while, but I'm into it. Barry Bonds is about to break the home run record, and I care.

I care!

Maybe it was the constant inundation of Bonds-themed editorials, news reports, ESPN specials, books, and magazine articles that left me cold. Maybe it was the constant debates and arguments, with both sides obfuscating as much as they wanted to in order to sell their point. The six-day-old-sushi-in-the-glove-compartment play of the Giants this season has definitely been the focus of this site.

But now I'm one of the giggling fanboys. When Bonds comes up, I call my wife in from the other room. I was fascinated by the unexpected cheering when Bonds hit #755. It still warms my heart that a steroid user gave up the homer. I want to watch this happen. I want to tell my kids where I was when it happened. I would have loved to tell them that I was at the game, but Goofus is on Craigslist right now, selling the tickets at a premium. I was just happy to be considered.

And now that I'm into it, I can safely delve into the hot topics of the day without feeling like a soulless hypocrite. For example:

I didn't care if Bud Selig followed Bonds around the country. It was a non-story. Selig wanted to get to those TPS reports piling up back in Milwaukee? Whatever. Non-story. But when Selig did decide to attend Bonds games, he made a choice to be a part of the story.

Selig's reaction to #755 was the weeniest moment in history. Tom Hicks had to tell him to stand up. Selig stood up. And then he just kind of stared.

That's why he flew to San Diego. To just kind of stare. Did he wing it? Or was it a prepared reaction? He had to have some idea of what he was going to do. That means, at some point to some person, the idea of an emotionless stare was a good idea. It was the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life. If Selig clapped, he would have taken some heat from the hardliners. If Selig had said, you know, I don't think this record is legitimate and I'm not going to pay my respects by attending, he would have taken a whole bunch of heat. So he chose the middle ground. To just kind of stare. A reaction that no one could appreciate. That's a special kind of genius.

Comment starter: Why is baseball in a period of unparalleled economic success? Selig doesn't seem like he could finish a game of Monopoly without eating the Scottie dog and sticking hotels up his nose. How in the hell is this sport so successful right now?  

And I really hope someone YouTubes a "To steroids: The magical wonder-compounds that saved baseball!"-toast he probably gave at some Rotary Club luncheon in 1999.

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Re: Flash:
FIRST!
Being a passionate Monopoly fanatic for 40 years I say thanks for the guffaw , Sir.
Barry Zito: Not an embarrassment of riches , but a rich embarrassment.

by victor frankenstein on Aug 7, 2007 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Flash:
I hope you're not going to keep doing this...
Barry Bombs gear | comics | Ray Durham is... yeah.

by Natto on Aug 7, 2007 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Thanks for the slap. No , I won't.
Barry Zito: Not an embarrassment of riches , but a rich embarrassment.

by victor frankenstein on Aug 7, 2007 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
I think that the sport is not as popular as it should be. Because of issues with competitive balance, it is no longer America's pastime. If the NFL was under the same system that baseball finds itself in, I don't think it would be as popular. It is a great game, although if I didn't grow up with it, I probably wouldn't think it was that interesting. I've met many people from other counties, and it is just about impossible to convey the whole idea of baseball to them.
In a way I feel sorry for Selig because he was caught in a no-win situation. He tried to do the right thing by following Barry around, but then he watched the whole thing unfold like a disapproving parent. He should of just followed Hank Aaron's lead.

by smedley on Aug 7, 2007 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Or delegated.
Barry Zito: Not an embarrassment of riches , but a rich embarrassment.

by victor frankenstein on Aug 7, 2007 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Baseball is pretty big in Japan.  Most of Asia, I think.  Same with a majority of hispanic countries.  So Europeans don't get it, that's their problem.  Venezuela gets it, and so does Korea.

As for Selig, he's pretty much a homer.  But he's also done some great things for baseball.  Sure there's the strike of '94, one of the greatest travesties in sports history, as well as the All Star game that he called.  But in his defense, the All Star Game was mismanaged by the coaches, and had been for years.  After that, he got the All Star Game to almost be relevant again by giving the winning league homefield advantage in the World Series (the ASG still is lame to watch on TV, but having been there to see it in person this year...  WOW!  That was cool!).

He also brought in Interleague play and refined it to a far more acceptable level, as well as keeping natural rivalry games, which are relevant for actual rivalries like the Giants-A's, Mets-Yanks, etc.  Not so much for the D-Bags, Pirates, or Red Sox...  He also brought about the unbalanced schedules, so there are more series against divisional rivals.  Huge attendance boost there, because I think more people want to see a Giants-Dodgers series than a Giants-Pirates series.

He also helped in getting the collective bargaining agreement signed quickly in 2001, after the terrorist attacks of 9/11.  Obviously, the tragedy had a far bigger role, but don't discount the stupidity of some people to be able to overlook things like that for their own selfish interests.

He's also responsible for the new divisional alignments of three divisions per league, and the Wild Card playoff format.  And, according to his bio on MLB.com, he's also brought about the "restoration back to the rulebook strike zone."

You bet your ass he's done a lot of things pretty frickin' badly, but I the things listed above are a HUGE reason that baseball remains as popular today as it is.

That said, Bud...  Get your hands out of your pockets and applaud Bonds.  And don't follow it up with a sly little comment about how Bonds didn't get there legitimately.

"The Lincoln assassination just recently became funny. 'I need to see this play like I need a hole in my head'."

by JRPhillips on Aug 7, 2007 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Uhhhh......'94 strike, a Selig mismanagement, a travesty is right. Calling All Star game a tie...bad form. Making the ASG the determinant for home field in the playoffs......absolutely ridiculous...more than just lame. Interleague play....an abomination just short of being worse than Astroturf. Unbalanced schedules......why??? bad idea. Hate only being able to see teams like the Mets, Cards, etc. only once. Taking responsibility for steroids era while under his watch...completely disengenuous. Yeah, like anyone in baseball management didn't know what was going on. It's just a load of BS.

Wild Card...that one is OK.  Gee, one thing good in 15 years. Sounds like Sabean's track record.

Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on Aug 7, 2007 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
And yet attendance is up like it is, with all teams across the majors getting massive attendance year after year.  Giants-A's games sold out every time on both sides of the Bay.  Interleague means sold out Giants-Sox games, and Giants-Yankees games.  Giants-Dodgers games, more often, with sold out attendance.

When interleague started, I hated it too.  There were too many interleague games being played that worked against a better sense of competition, and NL West only playing AL West was a bad idea, at least year after year.  Now there's only a few interleague series, one this year against the Sox, Yanks and Jays each, as well as two against Oakland.  Personally, I think they need to cut natural rivalries down to one series per year, and rotate which park it's played at.

And again, as I stated below, the MLBPA has always been too powerful, and it's ultimately their fault there was no drug testing in MLB.  It took 9/11 for them to finally agree to CONSIDER testing, followed by enough doping scandals and fan outrage for them to finally allow a degree of testing.  This was never the fault of ownerships OR Selig.  Blame the players.

"The Lincoln assassination just recently became funny. 'I need to see this play like I need a hole in my head'."

by JRPhillips on Aug 7, 2007 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Blame the Media
The avg fan doesn't care a lick about steroids and stuff, the media just plays it up to incredible heights (probably at the bequest of the owners) that we have to hear this crap constantly.

by awesomer @ McCovey Chronicles on Aug 7, 2007 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
You fail to note the unbalanced schedule as a result of interleague play.  It's a bad thing when two teams in direct competition play very different teams during interleague.

by positiveuphemism on Aug 7, 2007 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Unbalanced schedules is about playing teams within your division more.  More Dodgers-Giants games, D-Bags-Rockies games, etc. means a bigger impact from division rivals to win your own division.

Interleague play is about driving up attendance.  Attendance is up during interleague typically, which means more revenue in baseball, which means that's a good thing for MLB.  So Selig has done a good thing there too.

Again, not a huge Selig fan myself, but he's done a helluva lot more important things for baseball than so many commissioners before him.  At the very least, he's not afraid to make changes.

"The Lincoln assassination just recently became funny. 'I need to see this play like I need a hole in my head'."

by JRPhillips on Aug 7, 2007 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
i'm british, grew up there, and I get baseball, newly converted and I love it...I think most europeans that love soccer and rugby are just sports fans anyway, and would give it a chance if it was on TV regularly, or there were major teams over there to watch play.  

by Zito Apologist on Aug 7, 2007 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Doesn't Channel 5 (Digital station in the UK) show baseball? I mean, it's once a week and it's on at 2 in the morning, but still...better than nothing.

Oh, and four words to you: New. Chelesea. Away. Jersey. I'm still seeing spots in my vision.

Lon Simmons' adopted dad.

by Kitspool on Aug 7, 2007 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
It probably does...i left 11 years ago (c5 was still new), and they always showed american sports (i never watched)
havent seen the new chelsea away jersey yet (glasgow rangers fan)

by Zito Apologist on Aug 7, 2007 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
I live in Israel and I'm a huge baseball fan, but saying baseball is big in most of Asia and South America is a huge exaggeration. japan and South Korea do not make most of asia, just like the Dominican Republic, Venezuela and Cuba don't make most of South America. Most of the world still thinks baseball is to static and long... But anyway,who cares? I don't know what about you, but i never a need for a baseball world cup.

by Cookyman on Aug 7, 2007 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Sorry to get off topic here...but what about the Eric Byrnes signing?  Who is Sabes gonna blow his money on now?  
My fantasy team could beat up your fantasy team.

by Coach Kline on Aug 7, 2007 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Not "who?, but "who and what?"
Hookers and blow!
Bold Prediction: Klesko will finish the 2007 season with at least 20 HRs. (OPS+ is 129 as of 7/1/07)

by Goofus on Aug 7, 2007 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Not "who?, but "who and what?"
I'll buy THAT for $126 million dollars!
Barry Zito: Not an embarrassment of riches , but a rich embarrassment.

by victor frankenstein on Aug 7, 2007 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Not "who?, but "who and what?"
Listen. Hookers and Blow last a few days, a couple weeks at the most.

We get to enjoy BZ for up to EIGHT YEARS!

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Aug 7, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Not "who?, but "who and what?"
For $126 million, I think I could buy enough hookers and blow to last me for 8 years.  If I lived that long.
The Maharajai steals at will (plus he's not Matt Morris).

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Aug 7, 2007 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Not "who?, but "who and what?"
Touche.
Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Aug 7, 2007 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Baseball?
For seven glorious seconds I thought he was referring to Monopoly.
Barry Zito: Not an embarrassment of riches , but a rich embarrassment.

by victor frankenstein on Aug 7, 2007 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Selig sorta reminds me of Jeb Bush from Lil Bush (or maybe Jeb reminds me of Selig).

Couldn't you see Selig looking at two rams knocking heads and saying, "Bud is Ram" and running head-on into a tree?

Do they know to win the game a team has to actually score at least once?

by noahthek on Aug 7, 2007 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Not to take away from the necessary discussion about Bud Selig -- Huge Asshat or Hugest Asshat Ever? -- but did anyone else read that Peter Magowan was neither in San Diego for Barry's 755th nor did he congratulate his superstar on the achievement? I think it was mentioned on KNBR yesterday, and Tim Keown referred to it on ESPN.com today.

I know there's been a pissing war between Bonds and Magowan all season, but the owner needs to suck it up and loudly praise this towering achievement. Otherwise he's worse than Selig.

Lon Simmons' adopted dad.

by Kitspool on Aug 7, 2007 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Especially since he's probably going to have to swallow his sh*t and resign the guy for one more year.

Next year would be the year to really sour things up. Don't start so early, Mags!

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Aug 7, 2007 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
The weeniest moment ever, indeed!  Selig is such a complete doofus.  The retrospective on his career will be a series of snapshots of him looking unkempt and confused in a variety of scenarios, like the tie All Star game and having to be told to stand up to honor one of the greatest players ever to play.  Why was this cloud over the player?  Because under his commission of the game he did not even attempt to institute a clear substance policy to define what was permissible supplementation and what was banned supplementation.  So the players decided what they were willing to ingest, and the attendance soared.  He looked the other way until the heat started to come on him, then he took the coward's way out and passively passed judgment on the primary scapegoat for the era.  

Enjoy the game! I was there with the Junior Giants contingent last night, and it was fun, even though he didn't break through.  I have a feeling tonight is the night.  

by out machine on Aug 7, 2007 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Flash:
The MLBPA is the most powerful players union in all of sports.  Part of the reason for the strike of '94 was the players not wanting a drug policy to be implemented at the pro level.

Selig was responsible for the hard core anti-doping rules that were implemented in the minor leagues.

Don't blame Selig for substance abuse.  Unless he's a crackhead, in which case, go nuts!

"The Lincoln assassination just recently became funny. 'I need to see this play like I need a hole in my head'."

by JRPhillips on Aug 7, 2007 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Thank you for bringing up the MLBPA. They're absolute ballbusters on certain things, like drug testing.
Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not facist: THE RETURN OF SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 7, 2007 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Okay, Mr. Selig or Mr. Selig's p.r. guy.  I think MLB management and Selig were willing to look the other way.  I think to pull this hands in pockets thing on Bonds, after taking the home run derby profits of this era, is a the definition of hypocrisy.  It is the response to the occasion that I am faulting him for.  Either stay away or embrace it.  I was no fan of him before, but was just sort of "meh" about him.  Now I cannot help but think Selig = douche.

by out machine on Aug 7, 2007 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Flash:
Sorry man, I just think there's a little too much revisionist history going on with regards to this issue.  I think the press has hung Selig out to dry on the issue of steroids when it clearly wasn't his fault.  It's not exactly hypocrisy when you can't do a damn thing about it.  Hell, even now there's testing, but it doesn't cover everything the players are using.  Do you think it was the players or the owners who want that?  Of course the owners are profiting, and so is Selig.  But to boo their players regularly would be counterproductive to getting fans in the gates or watching on TV or listening to the radio.  That would also piss the players off and probably lead to another strike.

As for 755, that was a total douche thing for Selig to do.  But don't go blaming Selig for the steroids era, any commissioner would have gone through the exact same thing.  Blame him for looking like an r-tard, and often acting like it, but don't go blaming him for things that obviously aren't really his fault.

"The Lincoln assassination just recently became funny. 'I need to see this play like I need a hole in my head'."

by JRPhillips on Aug 7, 2007 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a Rotarian, bub
And I just want to say, our standards are a bit higher than Bud Selig.
***

Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Aug 7, 2007 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

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