Houston, We have a Problem
In the what could have happened here department:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2993335&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines
Dumping the GM makes some sense (a head had to roll for the Carlos Lee signing), but is it really either of their faults that Brad Lidge became Mitch Williams? Or that Morgan Ensberg became Pedro Feliz without the power, or that Pettite decided he'd rather pitch with his friend Roger than in his hometown?
I do like that Cecil Cooper is getting a chance to manage (he's one of those players I always liked for no good reason). It makes me wonder if George Foster is coaching somewhere.
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Re: Houston, We have a Problem
by jponry on Aug 27, 2007 2:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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he's an awful GM.
Garner? who gives a shit. a manager is a manager is a manager. if you have crappy players you're gonna lose.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Aug 27, 2007 2:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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"Foster, a member of the Reds from 1971-1981 and a 5-time All-Star, conducts the camps across the country. He is also a motivational speaker and works with several national agencies and is the current commissioner for the Reds Rookie Success League." (from the Journal-Times, Grayson KY)
Once you dropped his name I was curious. He had the oddest career arc, a la Dale Murphy and Will Clark, where for several years he seemed a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame, and then just fell of the face of the baseball earth.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Aug 27, 2007 2:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by GiantFan on Aug 27, 2007 2:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Is it Garner's fault that he had to deal with so many partially-baked players, like Ensberg, Eric Bruntlett, Chris Burke? Technically, no. But I'm not sure any of these players got the kind of development they needed from Garner. His tendancy to banish slumping players to the bench couldn't have helped, either; I'm thinking mainly of Ensberg here.
From the outside, there's no way to be sure how much is Garner's fault and how much was the players' inherent suckiness. But my (admittedly superficial) position is: Players don't tend to improve under Garner. They aren't given a chance to complete themselves. They end up mired in that quadruple-A caliber setting.
As for Brad Lidge, I do believe his problems are entirely his own, and I feel bad for him. But if you go with my hypothesis here, having Garner as a boss didn't help any.
by wedge on Aug 27, 2007 2:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by jponry on Aug 27, 2007 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Aadik on Aug 27, 2007 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by jponry on Aug 27, 2007 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by wedge on Aug 27, 2007 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Harvey's jokes in the thread at BTF are hilarious, by the way. Check it out if you haven't.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 27, 2007 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by JRPhillips on Aug 27, 2007 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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The firing makes a lot more sense to me now.
by noahthek on Aug 27, 2007 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by EliminateMe on Aug 27, 2007 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Roger on Aug 27, 2007 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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From his no doubt soon to vanish bio page on the Astros' site.
by EliminateMe on Aug 27, 2007 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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there is only one org in all the mlb that rewards failure and mediocrity
and you are all fans of self same org
rejoice
by bacci40 on Aug 27, 2007 4:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by EliminateMe on Aug 27, 2007 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by jponry on Aug 27, 2007 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by EliminateMe on Aug 27, 2007 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Houston, We have a Problem
by Roger on Aug 28, 2007 4:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh heh
by Natto on Aug 27, 2007 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hallucinogens in the Allegheny?
by EliminateMe on Aug 27, 2007 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Heh heh
by jponry on Aug 27, 2007 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Lyle on Aug 27, 2007 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by JakeS on Aug 28, 2007 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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they and the owners of the royals have discovered that they can make more caishe keeping pathetic, low attendence teams, then by harvesting a winner....thanks to huge loopholes in the mlb profit sharing clause
dont understand the rangers at all
maybe bush is still running that team from behind the curtain
by bacci40 on Aug 28, 2007 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Strike down one more GM who might have been susceptible to Sabean's jedi mind tricks.
by howtheyscored on Aug 27, 2007 6:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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