The Giants sign Bumgarner
The Giants sign Bumgarner.
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Re: The Giants sign Bumgarner
by Goofus on Aug 15, 2007 8:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by jponry on Aug 15, 2007 8:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 15, 2007 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Andy In Fresno on Aug 15, 2007 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by BawLa on Aug 15, 2007 8:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by jponry on Aug 15, 2007 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
w()()t w()()t
Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on Aug 15, 2007 8:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Giants sign Bumgarner
by Roger on Aug 15, 2007 8:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Giants have employed an interesting strategy
But they've also got the high-reward angle by focusing on young pitchers that exhibit signs of being special, sometimes flying below the radar- they often pick guys that few would have thought of at that point in the draft.
Unfortunately, that strategy has got to change, especially if they have a shot at 1 of the 2 great hitters in next years draft.
Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on Aug 15, 2007 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Good News!
I noticed this part of the press release:
Is anyone keeping track of the seven late round picks who didn't sign? Anyone know anything about them?
by Sayhey on Aug 15, 2007 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Good News!
by mxmob33 on Aug 15, 2007 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Good News!
As for those who didn't sign...Myles Schroder went to my college last season. I'll poke around and see if he'll be returning to DVC's team again this year. He missed the last six games of DVC's season with an injury, so maybe that had something to do with his signability? Tyler Landendorf was a frosh shortstop on Howard JC's team in Texas and played in the Texas Collegiate Baseball League over the summer. He was drafted 34th round this year by the Giants, and 34th round by the Yankees in 2006 following his senior year in HS. Wouldn't be surprised if he returned to school again. Andrew Barbosa went 48th round this year after one season at JC. He was drafted by the Giants in the 15th round last year following his senior year of high school. Didn't sign either time.
That's all I have.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 15, 2007 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Good News!
The addition of Bowlin and Schroder to the list leaves McDaniel, SS Tyler Ladendorf (34th), RHP Paul Clemens (36th), C Phil Disher (45th), OF John Rye (46th), LHP Ryan Verdugo (47th) and LHP Andrew Barbosa (48th) all unsigned.
There is one disappointment and a couple of surprises in that list. Ladendorf is disappointing, though not surprising. According to BA, he turned down a 6-figure number from the Yankees in the same draft position last year, so he was a long shot this year. However, Ladendorf was one of the fastest players in the entire draft, and would've fit the draft philosophy well.
The surprises are Disher and Rye, the two 4-year college players. Both were Juniors, so they are going back to school, but I honestly thought they were good chances to sign. Interesting note: Disher was one of the catchers for postseason-bound South Carolina. The other was drafted by the Giants 5 round later, Trent Kline (another Junior). Kline signed. BTW, they are teammates of potential Top 5 pick Justin Smoak.
by BruteSentiment on Aug 15, 2007 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Good News!
by Sayhey on Aug 15, 2007 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Good News!
...and girls. (The good Baron's a lady.)
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Aug 15, 2007 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Good News!
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 17, 2007 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No bottles of beer on the wall......
by wilriv21 on Aug 15, 2007 9:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Giants sign Bumgarner

by EliminateMe on Aug 15, 2007 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bumgarner and Fairley both signed
But calling him MadBum is lacking imagination. How about tweaking it slightly - Mardy Bum.
by Salemicus on Aug 15, 2007 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bumgarner and Fairley both signed
And it's like looking down the barrel of a gun
And it goes off?
by jponry on Aug 15, 2007 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bumgarner and Fairley both signed
by EliminateMe on Aug 15, 2007 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bumgarner and Fairley both signed
1. The Bridges of Madison Bumgarner
2. People's Republic of Madison Bumgarner
3. Bleacher Bumgarner
4. Madi Cakes
5. Splash
by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 15, 2007 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bumgarner and Fairley both signed
- Mad Dog!
- Da Bum
by Goofus on Aug 15, 2007 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bumgarner and Fairley both signed
by leftymalo on Aug 15, 2007 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bumgarner and Fairley both signed
by Goofus on Aug 15, 2007 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bumgarner and Fairley both signed
"You bum, Garner! Why are you taking out Bumgarner?"
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 15, 2007 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Giants sign Bumgarner
BA reports we got him for $2 mil, about 200k above this year's slot. Looks like they managed to compromise.
by jponry on Aug 15, 2007 10:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a fair deal
by wilriv21 on Aug 15, 2007 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Sounds like a fair deal
by E Ticket on Aug 15, 2007 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Giants sign Bumgarner
I've seen Bumgardner and Baumgardner already today.
by jponry on Aug 15, 2007 10:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by projectmayhem713 on Aug 15, 2007 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/story/2006/9/24/14640/8176
by Goofus on Aug 15, 2007 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by ramirez415 on Aug 15, 2007 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by E Ticket on Aug 15, 2007 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by projectmayhem713 on Aug 15, 2007 10:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Goofus on Aug 15, 2007 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
name change?
by Lyle on Aug 15, 2007 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Audio Interview
He definitely sounds like he's from the south, y'all.
by xanthan on Aug 15, 2007 10:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Giants sign Bumgarner
OK, I've been letting my kid watch Little Einsteins too much...
Anyways, signing all three of their first round picks was feel good hit of the summer for the Giants. We have hope for the future.
by RUSirius on Aug 15, 2007 11:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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The Yankees apparently gave him a deal worth a minimum $4.6 million and a potential worth of $13.8 million!!
Christ.
by jponry on Aug 15, 2007 1:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Giants sign Bumgarner
by xanthan on Aug 15, 2007 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Oh, and it's a major league contract.
...
by jponry on Aug 15, 2007 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Major leage contract?
by xanthan on Aug 15, 2007 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Major leage contract?
Apparently though, if Brackman gets TJ Surgery and goes on the 60-day DL, that won't count as an option year.
Still, it seems like a really risky deal on a guy who really wasn't that good in college to begin with.
by jponry on Aug 15, 2007 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Major leage contract?
I agree, Brackman's college #'s aren't anything super amazing, especially for a guy with his velocity. The K rate is nice but not omg-out-of-this-world nice.
by xanthan on Aug 15, 2007 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Giants sign Bumgarner
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 15, 2007 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Giants sign Bumgarner
He says that he believes the Giants had the best draft in baseball this year (contingent on Bumgarner being signed, which has now happened).
Also, (again) if anyone has or knows of video for Zito (especially side view) for him, could you send him an email about it? He has some video, but he isn't sure if it is useable.
If you have something for him, email at chadbradfordwannabe at yahoo. Cool?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 15, 2007 1:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Giants sign Bumgarner
by Goofus on Aug 15, 2007 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Down the Stairs
Now that everybody is signed, this does represent a tremendous infusion of talent into the organization. Add in the addition of Tim Lincecum just last year plus Big V and we might actually have a future to look forward to!
I would anticipate almost a coplete remaking of our top 10 prospects with at least half coming in at under 20 yo. Now THAT's progress!
One word of caution. By the time the youngsters are ready to make an impact, Cain and Lowry will be on the threshold of free agency and Tim won't be far behind.
by DrBGiantsfan on Aug 15, 2007 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Down the Stairs
by Goofus on Aug 15, 2007 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank You
by DrBGiantsfan on Aug 15, 2007 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some more scoop.
"When you're looking at the first round, there's not as much difference between a high school pick and a college pick," Evans said.
Bumgarner, who received a $2 million bonus, and Fairley, whose bonus was $1 million, will begin their Giants careers at instructional league in mid-September.
by wilriv21 on Aug 15, 2007 2:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Some more scoop.
This is probably a ginormous "duh" statement but I'm actually okay with the Giants drafting HS players because they can spend three, four, even five years in the minors and still be young enough to quell the crowing about OH HE'S TOO OLD FOR BLAH BLAH LEVEL.
Fast tracked for an 18 year old pitcher who has a lot of room to grow still...what's that, three years? More? Timmy's a freak of nature in that he was up and contributing less than a calendar year after he was drafted. No way in Hades should the MadBum be ready that quickly.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Aug 15, 2007 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Some more scoop.
If not contributing to the big team soon, he might be helping them sooner by being a prime trading chip.
by Goofus on Aug 15, 2007 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Some more scoop.
by xanthan on Aug 15, 2007 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Giants sign Bumgarner
I'm not too sure about "fast track," but I can actually see Bumgarner making his debut at 21 or 22. If his fastball and command for it is that good right now, if he can maintain it it'll help out quite a bit in his success.
I wonder what offspeed pitches he'd be learning. I assume he already throws a change; I wonder with his arm action if they'll be suggesting he throw a slider or a curve. It'd be badass if he could develop a solid cutter.
by Anticon23 on Aug 15, 2007 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bumgarner Draft Report
But I meant I wonder what the organization would have him throw. Would they have him throw both the curve and the slider? I get the feeling with his arm motion the curve (like Sanchez) might not be the pitch for him as compared to the slider.
Anyone with good knowledge of pitching mechanics know if either pitch would be particularly harmful to his motion?
by Anticon23 on Aug 15, 2007 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sidearm
by DrBGiantsfan on Aug 15, 2007 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Sidearm
I was thinking along the same lines. I hope he picks up the slider, I think it could have a hard sweep to it, a la Randy Johnson (albeit not nearly as good). That cutter could be devastating if developed.
by Anticon23 on Aug 15, 2007 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Sidearm
From the scouting report that I read on him, his early breaking stuff is pretty slurvy without much bite.
by xanthan on Aug 15, 2007 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Dan from NM on Aug 15, 2007 8:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 15, 2007 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by APGiantsFan on Aug 15, 2007 10:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Unusually high release point + unusually long arms is a mechanical disadvantage, as the angle of his release point at the joints has to be more exact for the release point at his hand to be in the right place.
This is a major mechanical oversimplification of his early problems, which had a lot more factors, but being big was one of his earliest and most lasting hurdles.
by howtheyscored on Aug 15, 2007 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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One of those catch 22s.
by howtheyscored on Aug 15, 2007 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Normally I agree with you on such matters, but regretfully, I must part company with you on this particular issue. At least with big, one always has the chance to pick up the ball. But Johnson is not only ugly, he is X-Game ugly. His ugliness makes Bill Brasky crap in his pants. Johnson is so ugly he collapses large buildings just by looking at his reflection in the window. Johnson's face is so repulsive, he has changed the electormagnetic field surrounding the earth. One gaze from him has been known to melt entire glaciers. Superman once wet his pants when standing in against him in extra innings. Randy Johnson rarely drinks beer, but when he does, he makes sure its Dos XX. "Stay thirsty my friends" is what he said just before he wiped out 26 zombies on "Dawn of the Living Dead" with a signal glance.
by E Ticket on Aug 16, 2007 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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And I agree with big guys taking longer to refine coordination.
It all adds up to: better not rush the Mad Bum to the majors until there is a secondary pitch that is not obvious to hitters, and excellent location on the heater, and a mix of speeds.
Like most of the posters here I am excited by the talent and potential we picked up in this draft
by foothillsfan on Aug 16, 2007 8:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Slower development of screw-foots is caused by Coriolis force. Righties have similar difficulties in Australia and other countries below the Equator. For example, Johann Santana, a Venezuelan, has not experienced the control and development issues that routinely affect lefties, even great ones like Koufax. But other righties, from Venezuela like Omar and Ozzie Guillen, are viewed upon as eccentrics.
Its all pretty simple really. Its the earth's rotation.
Sincerely
Dr. Baseball Science
by E Ticket on Aug 16, 2007 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Giants sign Bumgarner
Keith Law: (1:27 PM ET ) All three are potential stars, although oddly enough, I like Alderson (odd delivery, but outstanding control and a plus-plus slider) and Fairley (really raw, but one of the best tools packages in this draft) more than Bumgarner.
by Mark carry on on Aug 16, 2007 10:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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