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Around SBN: MLB Trade Deadline: Who is available around MLB?

from inside HQ...

by senorvegas on Jul 26, 2007 3:06 PM PDT Comment 44 comments

I've got a mole at 24 Mays Plaza (sorry to be all Machiavellian, but it's someone who can hear what's going on but has no input on decision-making) and he/she hears that Morris is "gone", Durham is "untradeable", and Klesko is available but fetching little interest. Discuss among yourselves...

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what's the scoop on "The Albatross"?

by wilriv21 on Jul 26, 2007 3:02 PM PDT reply actions

Re: what's the scoop on "The Albatross"?

Zito??? I didn't ask--but ROFL. Let's see--no one would pay him nearly what we offered before he stunk up the joint for 20 starts. Draw your own conclusions.

I got one word for you: "youneverknow"

by senorvegas on Jul 26, 2007 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions

On a serious note

Has The Brass considered packaging any of the older players with some minor league talent to see if there is any interest?

by wilriv21 on Jul 26, 2007 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Durham is untradeable because no other team wants him. He isn't very good, his range on defense has been reduced and he costs too much this year and next.

The Fringe was right.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 26, 2007 3:03 PM PDT reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Maybe I'm delusional, but I think Durham still has one more comeback in him. His power surge last year messed him up and he's getting the ball up in the air too much, but he'll get over that. Defensively he's not great, but he's not terrible. If I were the Mets (or, now, the Phillies), I'd want him.

by Evan on Jul 26, 2007 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Utley creates more demand

Do not wish him ill but the more demand the better for SF.

by wilriv21 on Jul 26, 2007 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Utley creates more demand

And now he's got a broken hand.
(Aw3 , c'mon..."wrist" don't rhyme as guud...)

Barry Zito: Not an embarrassment of riches , but a rich embarrassment.

by victor frankenstein on Jul 26, 2007 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Durham has an 11% line drive rate. 11%!! That is unbelievably bad, and completely out of line with his career lines. He hit fewer fly balls last year, but many more of them went out of the park.

This year? Tons of fly balls, and none of them are going out. And he hits ground balls when he misses pitches, so they make their way meekly into fielders' gloves.

I think Durham just needs to fix his approach and he would be just fine. Not last year good, but more in line with his career numbers. How the hell does Ray-Ray have an 11% LD rate? Abysmal.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 27, 2007 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Thats about ONE line drive every 2.5 Games. That is pitcher territory.

He either needs to go on the DL or be DFA'd. He doesn't play defense very well. He is obscene in the legal meaning, prurient interest only with no socially redeeming value and definitely not up to this community's standards

Is there anybody left in this organization that has any baseball integrity? Bueller? Anyone?

Barry Zito -- Catch Me if You Can.

by E Ticket on Jul 27, 2007 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Maybe all the air out of Bonds' drives (turned into Grounders) went into Durham's.

by zenbitz on Jul 27, 2007 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

The injury to Chase Utley could possibly open up a market for Ray, especially if he magically got hot between now and the deadline.

by sharksrog on Jul 26, 2007 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions

or even August with waiver wire

by wilriv21 on Jul 26, 2007 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Sorry, I think Ray-Ray is injured (abdomen or groin, I forget which) and ain't gonna get hot and ain't gonna get traded. He should be on the DL not on the field. Enough of this M Morris style 'toughing it out.'

by allfrank on Jul 26, 2007 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Especially with Fransden getting stuck out of position to get starts bull-malarkey. With Fransden and Aurilia to play 2nd there is NO reason Durham should play hurt.... If he just sucks (see 11% Line drive disc. above) and needs to fix his approach i guess thats another matter.

by kennv on Jul 27, 2007 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Sounds reasonable. Although I'd like to see them at least get something Pichardo-esque for Klesko.

by mxmob33 on Jul 26, 2007 3:07 PM PDT reply actions

You'd think there'd be a buzz

If Lowry was on the block. Morris won't fetch much. It's starting to sound like we'll get one not-too-exciting deal and that's it.

Unfortunate side effect of extending Sabean: his job security allows him to "play it safe" and neither commit to rebuilding nor commit to winning now. Basically, he's committing to Jack $hi+.

***

Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Jul 26, 2007 3:22 PM PDT reply actions

Re: You'd think there'd be a buzz

An extension means little when it comes to a GM. There isn't really any job security there if Magowan and Co are willing to eat his contract, right?

So basically, he has to commit. He has to commit to "rebuilding while winning" or whatever it was that Magowan was preaching when the extension was signed.

by sfgfan on Jul 26, 2007 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Not going to believe a single word of this until it actually happens. I too have a mole too, the doctor said it's not a problem though.

Omar Vizquel to Big Sam, "Barton, Viduka, Rozenhal, Geremi, Deco even?...way to go Gaffer, keep up the great work!"

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 26, 2007 3:24 PM PDT reply actions

Me too...

I also have a mole that tells me secret things. It tells me to steal the neighbors' cat food.

-- Born Yesterday

by thatdog on Jul 26, 2007 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Me too...

The leprechaun tells me to burn things!

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jul 26, 2007 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Me too...

Bengie At The Plate Today was doing a good impression of a mole (squinting , then eyes wide...didn't help.)

Barry Zito: Not an embarrassment of riches , but a rich embarrassment.

by victor frankenstein on Jul 26, 2007 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Me too...

You have a leprechaun?!? Where can I get me one of them?

Omar Vizquel to Big Sam, "Barton, Viduka, Rozenhal, Geremi, Deco even?...way to go Gaffer, keep up the great work!"

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 27, 2007 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: Me too...

It all started one day when I was painting a small room with the windows closed and no mask on.

Start there and see where it gets you.

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2007 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm a mole!

I'm very particular about building codes. And this water tower does not pass muster.

by awesomer on Jul 26, 2007 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Anyone catcch Sabean on KNBR yesterday? He basically said he expects August to be more eventful than July because "there's no way most of our guys will be claimed considering what they've done this season."

Nice, Brian. Nice.

by KCE on Jul 26, 2007 3:31 PM PDT reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

That was claimed on waivers, of course.

by KCE on Jul 26, 2007 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions

DFAs a-plenty?

That'll be a hoot!

***

Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Jul 26, 2007 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

I heard that interview. He also indicated that whether they unload any or all of their veterans by July 31, they're planning on playing the kids a lot more often so they can have more time(not just in September)to evaluate the makeup of the team for 2008.

Nothing terribly surprising, but it was heartening to hear him emphasize the team could be classified as "sellers." Now if only there were some buyers out there...

Lon Simmons' adopted dad.

by Kitspool on Jul 26, 2007 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Once that first big SP goes game is on

Other teams will then be looking to upgrade too. This wildcard race is shaping up with about 6 teams within 3.5 games. Should be plenty of demand.

by wilriv21 on Jul 26, 2007 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Confirming once again that Brian Sabean would be an awesome guy to talk about baseball with over a couple of beers.

by Skaldheim on Jul 26, 2007 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

I would like to ask Brian why his scouting system didn't pick up on the incompatability between AJ Pierzynski and the Giants, and if he felt he overemphasized Joe Nathan's poor 2003 post-season in comparison to a highly intriguing 2003 regular season in evaluating him for trade.

Maybe how he could have picked up such out-makers as Neifi Perez and Jose Vizcaino (the second time around). And how much of the $126 million the Giants gave to Zito was based on marketing considerations.

Fun stuff like that that probably would make it difficult to have a conversation with Brian.

by sharksrog on Jul 26, 2007 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions

chatting with Sabean

Then just ask him about the easy stuff, like Alex Sanchez, Ruben Rivera, and Marvin Benard. Then work up to the harder stuff.

Your 2012 NL ERA champion: Sergio Romo

by Lyle on Jul 27, 2007 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: chatting with Sabean

Nicely done, Lyle! :)

by sharksrog on Jul 27, 2007 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Come on, Flemm, this "senorvegas" thing isn't fooling anyone. You're not even old enough to gamble!

Jesse Foppert: Welcome home, my son. And meet your adopted brother, Kelvin Pichardo. He's from the Dominican Republic.

by leftymalo on Jul 26, 2007 3:51 PM PDT reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

let alone get a three-foot margarita.

Notgardo says: I aten't dead yet! My adopt-a-Giant speaks to Jesus Christ all night, and lives to tell the tale.

by tk on Jul 26, 2007 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

I've actually been a semi-pro gambler (avocation) for 15 years. No lie. Blackjack is my friend, and I've had a couple of good sports betting systems (math based).

But I did broadcast football and basketball in college. So maybe I am Fleming and just don't know it. It would explain those blackouts...

I got one word for you: "youneverknow"

by senorvegas on Jul 26, 2007 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Blackouts

Impressive. So you play bingo, too.

by Moggeee on Jul 26, 2007 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Blackouts

Go fish

Barry Zito -- Catch Me if You Can.

by E Ticket on Jul 27, 2007 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

I think and I have absolutely not a lick of "inside" information that there will be one trade of little or no consequence...just clearing some room.

by Buzzword on Jul 26, 2007 6:50 PM PDT reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

I agree with the mole, although I think if the Giants really want to move Klesko they will have no problem doing so. You don't think he's an upgrade over Julio Franco in Atlanta?? And he's cheap as well. Atlanta is working on the Texeira thing though, and that will have to fall through first, which it probably will. Teams work on the big stuff all the way up to the last day, and then get around to getting the guys that actually are available in the last few hours.

Randy Messenger: "I may not be pretty, but look at that 1.84 ERA!!"

by rxmeister on Jul 26, 2007 7:45 PM PDT reply actions

Re: from inside HQ...

Man now I want to make some mole poblano for dinner tomorrow night.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not facist: THE RETURN OF SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 26, 2007 9:52 PM PDT reply actions

Make that 2!!

Angels fly because they take Brian Sabean lightly.

by Mayor of 311 on Jul 26, 2007 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Mayor moving in on Natto

by wilriv21 on Jul 26, 2007 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Mayor moving in on Natto

Hahahahaha...

Omar Vizquel to Big Sam, "Barton, Viduka, Rozenhal, Geremi, Deco even?...way to go Gaffer, keep up the great work!"

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 27, 2007 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions

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