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Open Draft Thread, 2007

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It's here. This is the kind of chance that only comes around every decade or so. With six picks in the first 51 selections, the Giants can rebuild the farm system. Will they go with college players? Take some long-term shots at high school players? Go with hitting, pitching, or a combination of the two? The only thing we know is that it would be impossible to completely screw up this many early picks. There's just no way.

Dammit. This isn't a day for reality. This is a day for wishcasting and irrational optimism. Heck, maybe it isn't so irrational. All of the first four picks of the 2002 draft are on the roster, after all. One of these days, a team is going to strike lightning by picking five or six All-Stars, and that team's draft will become something of a legend. Why not the Giants?

Well, technically I know why. Because they're the Giants. If you can't forget all of that on draft day, though, you're incapable of feeling joy.

And that screenshot betrays my fascination with Arturo McDowell. There are first-round busts, and there are first-round kerflooeys. McDowell was most certainly the latter. But if you duct-taped Sammy Serrano to Arturo McDowell's left leg, McDowell could still beat Bengie Molina in a footrace. That has to count for something.

Edit:

All-Time Team of Great-Named Giants Draftees:

C - Giuseppe Chiaramonte
1B - Turtle Zaun
2B - Van Fixico
3B - James Snoots
SS - Monico Corral
OF - Sylvester Love
OF - Reuben Smiley
OF - Wynter Phoenix

P - Boof Bonser
P - Kavonski Chatman
P - Everhard Griffiths
P - Harlan Highfill
P - Skip Pitlock

Honorable Mention, Uncomfortable Question Regarding Parents' Ethnicity Division: Juan Eichelberger

Odd coincidence from above: There was never a movie titled Draft Busts VII: Past Third Base featuring performers named Sylvester Love, Everhard Griffiths, and Wynter Phoenix. The odds of that not happening had to be astronomical.

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Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
When I was reading about the Keith Law chat today, that is exactly what I was thinking.

To be fair, that draft sucked, and not just for us.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 6, 2007 10:33 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Yeah, that's pretty sobering.

I'm still excited though! May as well be optimistic about something and unlike the current Giants, the result of this draft won't be apparent for a few years.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 6, 2007 10:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I was really looking forward to watching this draft. Unfortunately, I'll be in class during most of it. Fortunately, it's a class where I sit in front of a computer.
Mandowear | comics | Sugarman FTW

by Natto on Jun 6, 2007 10:41 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who was in charge of making those picks?
Any of the scouting department still around? Why? This 1998 draft is what tempers my hopes for the 2007 draft. Draft early and often SF. Draft wisely. And draft pitching.

by wilriv21 on Jun 6, 2007 10:50 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Didn't Sabean rebuild the minor league/scouting department?  I mean, I'm wondering if there was some sort of learning curve?  It seemed like some sort of blind, random, nebulous BPA strategy to begin with.  Then they developed the 'pitching first' theory, which has worked pretty damned well.  They did go thru a few years of shaving money (and picks) to have more money for the big club.  B ut recently I think they have said, to win in the big pitchers parks of the west you need pitching, speed, and defense.  I think that has shown up in the past 2/3 years with the drafting of fast, defensively capable middle IFs and OFs (for CF and RF - I think the defensive, speedym more OBP, less power OF a la Winn and Roberts is what we are going to see in RF and CF under Sabean - which means power is going to have to come from C, 1b, 3b, LF).  Maybe, since they have a fair number of the former, especially middle IFs, they will actually draft Cs, 1Bs, 3Bs,power (LF) OFs.  
  Maybe their philosophy is still that it's easier to ID and develop pitching - and you get more for pitching than you do for postion players - so it will be more pitching and 5 tool guys.

by allfrank on Jun 7, 2007 12:08 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Drafting toolsy OFers hasn't worked out so far, and I am not going to hold my breath waiting for a star to emerge.

Also, pitching prospects are more prone to break down than position players.  That makes Cain, Lowry, and Lincecum that much more impressive, but it is a fairly risky strategy.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 12:18 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
If we do this well, I won't be pissed.

If this happens, I'll freak in 2013.

Also, keep in mind, Bubba Crosby hit 394/504/828 his senior year at Rice. That's not a typo. The man had a 1332 OPS!

David Arnott
Sportszilla -- Kickass Sports Writing
Adopted EME

by David Arnott on Jun 7, 2007 12:10 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
That's not all we got in 1983 - Robby Thompson was drafted in the June Secondary Phase.  What a haul!

That Dodger draft is a nightmare.  Seriously.  We can only hope that happens to them again this year.  

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 12:21 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dodgers
When the only significant player you draft is an NFL quarterback in the 50th round... yeah, that's a bad draft.
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 7, 2007 1:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Burkett went to Beaver High School, the lucky bastard.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 10:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
You would probably crack up at my wife's name: Sunny Beaver. It's okay. She and I both crack up at it sometimes too.
Succumb to Tiny Tim! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Jun 7, 2007 10:46 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
That's an awesome stage name. Where did you meet her?

by mxmob33 on Jun 7, 2007 10:51 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
If you two play golf together, it must be great to hear, "On the first tee; Hairball and Sunny Beaver."
The answer: Ryan Klesko. The question: Doesn't matter. (.312/.395/.477 as of 6/7/07)

by Goofus on Jun 7, 2007 11:45 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is this the draft day thread for 11am?
Any late news which way SF is leaning for picks #10 and #22?

by wilriv21 on Jun 7, 2007 12:27 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Is this the draft day thread for 11am?
Don't know where THEY are leaning, but most mock drafts I've seen had Wieters falling to the Giants at #10, and since most consider him the best college hitter - plus a good to great defensive catcher - plus a switch-hitter to boot - and could close games :^) - I would have to think they will select him, even though reports are that they want a Teixiera-type deal, 4 years, $9.5M, major league contract, and that's why he would fall to them.  I think if he is there, they will select him.

If not him, there's a Rubik's cube of possibilities, Heyward, Mills, Dominguez for #10, Mills, LaPorta, Borbon for #22, Mills, LaPorta, Ahrens, Burgess for #29 and #32, also Smoker (now that's a good name for a strikeout pitcher!) and Poreda.

"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 8:35 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you finally..
I finally read an explaination of the "Teixiera-type deal."  So basically we'd be paying this kid ~2.25 million a year to play in the minor leagues?
Lance Niekro AAA Watch: 52 AB .308/.393/.558 5 2B 1 3B 2 HR 8 BB (through 6/4)

by WalrusMan on Jun 7, 2007 9:06 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Thank you finally..
I think he wants a major league deal, or something that brings him to the majors in X years.

by sfgfan on Jun 7, 2007 9:37 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Thank you finally..
Basically you are betting that he will be in the majors relatively fast, in a year or two.

Teixeira got a $4.5M bonus - but when you are talking about a top 3-5 draft pick, that is what they normally get (OK, this is high side, the #1 pick gets around $5-6M, the rest get around $3M+).

Then his major league contract (which means he's on the 40 man roster, so he will burn an option a year, including, I would think, his partial first season as a pro) paid him $0.25/0.75/1.5/2.5, starting with the season following his pick apparently, I guess he got the minor league pay for his first partial season.  

That would work with Bengie's contract, he's done in 2009, so he could take over in 2010.

I've seen a comment that his defense at catcher could be one of the best in a long time from a draft prospect, so he's probably capable of coming up fast based solely on his defense, but then he's also good offensively.

I'm really hoping he falls to us, but I know that's a long shot given how good he is.  I'm just hoping his demands will turn off all the teams ahead of us.

"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 9:46 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Is this the draft day thread for 11am?
do we want to invest that much in a catcher?
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 10:39 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
They filmed Draft Busts VII down at the Monico Corral, didn't they?

And it's a shame he isn't technically a draftee, because Skyler Stromsmoe could really give Van Fixico a run for his money. I can't decide if I want to become a fan of Stromsmoe or a detractor who responds to every mention of him by shouting "Stromsmoe shmomsmoe!" I'm leaning towards the latter.

"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 7, 2007 1:21 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
What I would really like to see is for SF to come away with two quality bats in the first round.  Ideally, I think I'd love to see Wieters and LaPorta (hell, I know it would cost a ton, but it's not my money), but I could live with Mills and Burgess/Heyward/Mesoraco or some other young stud hitter who doesn't play 1st.  However Sabean wants to spend the 3rd pick in the first and the rest of the picks in the supplemental is cool by me, but I want to see the system pick up at least two impact bats.

So I'll probably be disappointed.  Because, as Grant is so fond of saying lately, we're talking about the Giants here.  which means we're going for Casey Weathers, Josh Smoker, and Poreda with our first round picks.  And I'm not going to live past the supplemental round because I'll die from nausea-- no one ever died from nausea before, you say? Well, all things are possible with Sabes.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jun 7, 2007 4:13 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Oh, and as I've said in another thread, I'd like to see the Giants pick up Stanford RF Mike Taylor.  But then, I am a fan of the Cardinal so I'm somewhat biased there.  And that would just be gravy if we wound up with two impact bats in the first.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jun 7, 2007 4:14 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I am with you, I am about to leave for work and when I get home I want to see both Weiters and LaPorta as our first 2 picks.
Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: Still walking a batter per inning in AAA.

by sfgreg on Jun 7, 2007 9:20 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Like Grant said - we're talkin about the Giants here...

by Kestrel on Jun 7, 2007 6:54 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More great names...
C - Steve Borsczwski
1B - Bob Tumpane
2B - Doug Wabeke
SS - Romy Cucjen
3B - Paul Djanakow
OF - Levi Miskolczi
OF - Gayron Jackson
OF - Notorris Bray
P - Eubulus Marshall
P - Francis Sansosti
P - Dan Yokubaitis
P - Brian Ohnoutka (gotta love a pitcher with "out" in his name)
Your 2012 NL ERA champion: Sergio Romo

by Lyle on Jun 7, 2007 7:16 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: More great names...
Notorris might be the best first name EVER...
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jun 7, 2007 7:21 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: More great names...
Sugar Bear Daniels - A's #1 pick in 1971 out of Detroit

by vivalancellotti on Jun 7, 2007 7:22 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Ah, if only Dick Trickle had taken up baseball...
Giant Expectations

by UnleashTheGore on Jun 7, 2007 8:41 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
there's still Dick Pole.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 10:42 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Thank you- always loved that one, and of course, the eubulus Mr. Butkus.

(after seeing the first name, Eubulus, above, I've decided that it can be used as an adjective meaning "possessing of a hilarious moniker")

Succumb to Tiny Tim! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Jun 7, 2007 10:50 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
We better not draft Poreda at #22. Too much of a risk!!!! He currently only has one good pitch, a fastball. Sabean needs to utilize this draft to really improve the farm team. I hope they do not go cheap
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 7, 2007 8:52 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
In the latest Baseball America mock draft (today) the Giants are projected at Wieters. And for pick #22, Poreda again. This would piss  me off so much, because Beau Mills in this draft would still be available and would be drafted by the A's like a pick later.  With pick #29, we would draft Josh Smoker. I love him.

If we could go Wieters, Mills, Smoker (or even Kevin Ahrens) this would be AMAZINGGGG!! I would just be speechless with joy.

Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 7, 2007 9:06 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
If we get Weiters at 10, I'm not going to fret about an overdraft at 22.

by Evan on Jun 7, 2007 9:09 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Agreed, if Wieters somehow happens, I'll cut Sabes a little slack with some longshots.  But I still think that would be miraculous.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jun 7, 2007 9:17 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
ya but if Mills is still there at 22, I dont care, I WANT him!
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 7, 2007 9:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
But remember, they've got a budget. If they pony up for the player who ought to be going number 2, they have to save some money somewhere.

by Evan on Jun 7, 2007 9:35 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Trade Durham to a contender, start Frandsen, and save the money with the major league roster.

(And that's about as likely as Sabean signing a player he hasn't "admired from afar" for a long time)

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jun 7, 2007 9:39 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
How does the signing of MLB draft prospects work?  Is it like the NFL where each team is awarded a limit of X dollars (by the league) to sign all of their picks?  Or is the "budget" self-imposed?  If it's the latter, I don't see why management wouldn't stretch the budget a little to bring in a second potential star.

by sfgfan on Jun 7, 2007 9:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
the budget is self-imposed. it is exactly for this reason, that if there is another future big impact player available at 22 or 29, i want the giants to go after that player. the farm system is weak and needs to be restocked. the big league team isnt looking good either, and so we need to develop young talent
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 7, 2007 9:57 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
The Giants have said that signability is not an issue at #10, that they will draft based on talent, so I have to believe that #22 or even #29 will draw that same distinction.  I think Giant management realize now that the money they should have spent the year Vlad was a free agent, has to be spent now to build the farm system when they have this golden opportunity.

Let's put it this way, they overpaid to get Lincecum (based on picks ahead and behind, he should have gotten around $1.8M, not the $2.025M he got) then they paid Villalona $2.1M.

According to Cot's, Teixiera's $4.5M bonus was split and paid in 3 installments over 3 years.  So if they do that with the #10 pick, then they should have the money they ponied up for Villalona to sign the #22 if necessary, just on a dollar for dollar comparison between last year and this year's spending.

"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 10:20 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
So does the coverage start at 11?  or is that when the picks start to roll in?  Anybody know?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jun 7, 2007 9:18 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I'm gonna guess, coverage starts at 11 and the real thing starts at around 11:30. But, you know, I could be wrong.
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 7, 2007 9:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Didn't Winter Phoenix die of a drug overdose on the sidewalk outside Thmoas Dodd Stadium?
Carol Midgen takes calls from Ryan Klesko when driving. (.308/.383/.477 as of 6/5/07)

by Goofus on Jun 7, 2007 9:19 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
apparently a guy with the exact same name graduated from Tulane school of medicine:

http://www.nola.com/timespic/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1180075044155350.xml&coll=1&this page=6

This is current from 2007, and the dude stopped playing in 2000 according to the baseball cube. Maybe its the same guy.

I adopted Barry Bonds

by BondsApologist on Jun 7, 2007 10:26 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Just for kicks, here's last year's draft thread. Funny to see how excited we all were about Kyle Drabek. Props to Martin for being the first to mention the Enchanter's name.

by Evan on Jun 7, 2007 9:38 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
its funny  how negative so many were on the pick. Goes to show....
I nominate Common Sense as the new GM of the San Francisco Giants.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 7, 2007 10:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS. HITTERS.
My VORP is higher than Merkin's VORP.

by Poe on Jun 7, 2007 9:45 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Poe, should we go for hitters or pitchers?
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 10:44 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
It sounds as if porcello is dropping fast.

If he is there with the second pick, do we take him???

In Soviet Russia, save blows Benitez!

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 7, 2007 10:04 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Depends on who we take with the first pick... if it's Wieters, spending Boras money on two picks is kind of iffy. That said, we'd suddenly have an absolutely outstanding top of the farm system.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 10:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
i would love to also get porcello, but i do understand there has to be a budget and we still have like six picks in the top 51, so I am also 100% sure that we would pass on porcello at 22. he is apparently asking for above $5 million, and the giants wouldnt pay that. but wieters and porcello should in theory help turn the system around in a hurry.
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 7, 2007 10:23 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
So the word right now is Price is going #1 and Vitters is going #2.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 10:13 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Check this mock draft - Moustakas to KC
From mlb.com, Mayos's take on the Wieters pick: "With three picks in the top 30, they can take a chance on a guy perceived to be a tough sign."

From BP, Goldstein's take on a predicted Casey Weathers pick: "With three first-round picks, the Giants will be looking to save a little bit of money here and there."

I guess one way to save money is to draft a guy you might not be able to sign. Beau Mills at 22 and the #10 pick next season? I could live with that, although I think it would be bad PR.

"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 7, 2007 11:00 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Check this mock draft - Moustakas to KC
If we take Wieters at 10, I think we sign him.  To hell with Selig, we're not on good terms as a franchise with Bud anyway.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jun 7, 2007 11:04 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Check this mock draft - Moustakas to KC
I think we have to take Sabean's word that signability is not an issue, talent is, same as last year.  And I agree, it would be horrible PR to not sign whoever they pick.  But they shelled out $2M for Villalona last year, and paid over slot for Lincecum, the pick above and below suggested a bonus $200K less than what he got.

Throw in the cyncism about Sabean if he does end up not signing the #10 pick.  

"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:23 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Check this mock draft - Moustakas to KC
The thing is... I wouldn't criticize Sabean if he took a Wieters and made him an "above slot but not ridiculous" offer. If he signs, it's an awesome move. If he doesn't, we still end up with five early picks this year and a bonus pick in the #10 slot next year. It wouldn't be overly cheap; it would just be a deferral until next year.

Now I wouldn't criticize Sabean and the Giants in this scenario, but you can bet a lot of people would.

"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 7, 2007 11:27 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Yeah I'm hearing Moustakas will go to the Royals

by giants92388 on Jun 7, 2007 10:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I've heard both, but the latest I've read is Vitters. But then, who really knows??
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 10:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
well we will know in less than an hour
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 7, 2007 10:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
that's what BA is saying. The Cubs at 3 would then take Vitters, with Jarrod Parker sliding to 9 or 10, but not past 12.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 11:03 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Look, if the team can spend $6M on Pedro Feliz, $8 mil on Rich Aurilia, $17 million on Dave Roberts, they certainly have the funding to sign a guy who may actually contribute to the next good Giants team.

by Aadik on Jun 7, 2007 10:24 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If SF goes for a bat at #10
When do you expect/want the bat to deliver in The CIty?

by wilriv21 on Jun 7, 2007 10:48 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: If SF goes for a bat at #10
If it's Mills, Wieters or another college hitter, I'd hope they'd be up by sometime during '09 (including perhaps a September call-up next year).

If it's a high school hitter, I wouldn't expect him to be ready until '10 or '11.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 10:50 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
is there any live draft TV feed?
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 10:48 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Starts at 11 on ESPN2
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 10:49 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
pretend I don't have a TV, but I do have a computer with internet access.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 10:50 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Hm, well I don't think there's a feed on the internet, but you could try seeing if MLB.com has a draft tracker again. There might be an audio feed on there too, but I haven't looked at it yet.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 10:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Did you see Darryl Strawberry?  KIDS!  STAY AWAY FROM THE STRAWBERRY

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:05 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
of course, they can't start on time. Damn TV.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 11:06 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
The Ichiro commercial was funny.  So was the Twins magic act one.

by sfgfan on Jun 7, 2007 11:14 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Yeah, those were my two faves too.
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:24 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
"Derek Jeter, Ken Griffey Jr., Alex Rodriguez, and Albert Pujols"

Fuck off, Selig. :giant eye roll:

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 7, 2007 11:10 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
For those not watching the show, that was Selig listing "some of the greatest players" from the amateur draft.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 7, 2007 11:12 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
and most Latin players aren't drafted. So they must not be the lifeblood of the game.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 11:10 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
So, I'm at work and I can't get the MLB.com feed to work... but there are actual prospects at the draft? Anyone notable?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:10 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Au Mont too
I want Aumont - he's the kind of high-risk, high-reward guy the Giants can use. They'd have trouble fitting a low-ceiling guy into the rotation so anybody without #1/#2 potential isn't a good pick, IMO.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 7, 2007 11:14 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I love Don Zimmer. he's fuckin' crazy.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 11:11 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
That's because of the metal plate in his head.
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Indeed.  We should send Lowry to Seattle and sign Ichiro to an extension as a RF/Closer!

by sfgfan on Jun 7, 2007 11:15 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I like the Mariners one with the "twins" too.
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:26 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Is this just "suspense" about the Rays pick?  Selig style?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:15 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
OH MY GOD IT'S A HUGE UPSET!

Oh, no, wait, they took David Price.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 7, 2007 11:16 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Because they can't trade the pick or anything, so what is the delay?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:16 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Maybe they hadn't given the pick any thought at all before now, and they're mulling over the options.

by Mel Ott on Jun 7, 2007 11:17 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I was wondering the same thing.  The time limit should be like 2 or three minutes, rather than 5.

by sfgfan on Jun 7, 2007 11:18 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I don't think that ESPN would be televising if there wasn't all that time taken.  They want an event, not a process.  

Plus they can fit in a couple of commercials during the wait and still have time for some comments and views of prospects and so on.

"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:28 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now here is where the fun begins
KC  Moustakas?   Porcello?   Vitters?   Parker?

by wilriv21 on Jun 7, 2007 11:16 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
"Well, I am really happy about being the first overall pick, Karl, but can I ask you something?  Who designed this cap?  The TB cap looks so stupid!  And 'TB?'  Does this mean I can't go on international flights?"

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:18 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Vitters.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 7, 2007 11:22 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
for the Cubs? Probably Vitters
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:22 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I've seen some mock drafts having Porcello fall almost or into the supplemental first round.
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:31 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Boras wants A-Rod money (amateur A-Rod money, heh) for Moustakas.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 7, 2007 11:21 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
over/under on hearing/reading "Price is right for D-Rays" headlines is about 5,000.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 11:23 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
in every newspaper across the country.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:24 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
It seems kind of weird that they're passing on Porcello for signability... and taking another guy who's a signability concern.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:23 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have no problem with KC drafting a 3B
even with Gordon and Teahen on board. Thru performance and injury anything can happen. Get your guy and can worry about the abundance of talent later.

by wilriv21 on Jun 7, 2007 11:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
If I have to hear these guys talk for 95% of the  draft I will shoot myself.
Giants Adoptee: Barry Zito. Corrupting minors one Hollywood starlet at a time.

by giantscatcher on Jun 7, 2007 11:23 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
There is a Boss mute button on the bottom right of the viewing window.
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I think they told Keith Law to talk a little faster this time

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:23 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
It isn't really like they are showing breakdowns and video of all of the draftees

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:24 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
On mlb.com they are showing commercials from various teams - Mariners, hands down, the best

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:26 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Giants commercials have really gone downhill since that Golden Year of 2003.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:27 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I appreciate the five minute format.

by mxmob33 on Jun 7, 2007 11:26 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
"The Chicago Cubs take someone who may already be injured"

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:26 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Vitters just takes a header going up the stairs.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 7, 2007 11:28 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Vitters just tore his rotator cuff, strained and oblique and got a concussion.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 11:28 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
and got into a fight with Carlos Zambrano.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 11:29 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
cubs = retarded.
In Soviet Russia, save blows Benitez!

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 7, 2007 11:28 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
For the Vitters pick? Or just in general.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:28 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
well both but vitters should be at 3b no matter what and aramis ramirez is at third already.  Just silly.

especially with wieters on the board.

In Soviet Russia, save blows Benitez!

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 7, 2007 11:30 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Vitters is 17 or 18... they're not going to have to worry about the position he'll play in the majors for at least four years.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
he'll get there within three I believe.  He's a very very polished hitter and average enough on defense.
In Soviet Russia, save blows Benitez!

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 7, 2007 11:33 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Ramirez isn't exactly a Gold Glover... his bat can play well at other positions.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Really? What don't you like about Vitters.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 7, 2007 11:29 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
no, i love vitters.  They have more needs and a position at third that's already filled.  Wieters could have come in halfway thru 2008 to replace barrett when he goes.
In Soviet Russia, save blows Benitez!

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 7, 2007 11:31 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I like the Price (obviously) and really like the Vitters pick, but I don't think the Royals should have gone with Moustakas.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 7, 2007 11:29 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Are the Royals sending a message that they won't be scared away by money issues?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:30 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Me neither... not because of his position, but because I just don't think he was the best talent on the board.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:31 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
"Pittsburgh Pirates take Adam Witter, C, Augusta"

"Peter?  Can they pick someone on a Sally League roster?"

"No Karl, but we are talking about the Pirates.  They are easily confused.  What surprises us is that we anticipated that they would confuse Vitters and Wieters, but to confuse both with a guy in Low A?  Wow.  Those silly Pirates"

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:29 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"I'm just ecstatic"?!?
Vitters just said this, but with all the emotion of the comedian Steven Wright, he was so calm and laid back.
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:30 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Pirates are mocked for Moskos at #4
I hope so. The more reach picks in the top 9, the more great players will fall to us.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Pirates are mocked for Moskos at #4
for good reason, apparently.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 11:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
BTW, the 5:00 clock delay is ESPN's doing I'm pretty sure.  I saw an interview with Mike Nolan recently where he said they submitted the Alex Smith pick as soon the clock started but the pick wasn't announced for the full 15 minutes because of ESPN's production needs -- they have a certain amount of highlights cued up and so many experts that they've alloted so many minutes to.  Most of the first round is planned out from a production standpoint before the draft begins.  Same here I would imagine, because it's the best way to guarantee a well-produced and informative show (and I produce a fair amount of live TV).

by Roger on Jun 7, 2007 11:37 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I direct a fair amount of live TV. What/where do you do, Roger?
Your 2012 NL ERA champion: Sergio Romo

by Lyle on Jun 7, 2007 12:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Wow, the Pirates are going to suck forever.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:33 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
The Pirates are the team that took Bryan Bullington a few years ago with the #1 overall pick and then said "we see him as a #3 starter"

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:33 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
what a waste of a beautiful ball park.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Four picks in and Jonathan Mayo's got it nailed. Obviously he's working the phone's well.

by Roger on Jun 7, 2007 11:34 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Ya beat me by 11 seconds.  I shouldn't have provided a link!!!  :^D
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
MLB's Mayo is 4 for 4 thus far:  http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070607&content_id=2011187&vkey=draft2007&fext= .jsp

He is also showing up on the show too.

"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:34 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Unfortunately, he was wrong where it counted, the Giants pick...
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:42 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I thought the Pirates would have learned better than to reach for an underwhelming college pitcher in the top 10 by now.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
How long is the clock?
I live life like every week is shark week. Oh and ignore the spelling. I do.....

by someguynamedg on Jun 7, 2007 11:37 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
damn, there goes wieters
In Soviet Russia, save blows Benitez!

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 7, 2007 11:37 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man...
the pirates suck....They just made the draft alot more interesting though.
Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Jun 7, 2007 11:37 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
AJLGHOEIHT:OIWHGJ:LO
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 7, 2007 11:38 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Wieters to Orioles.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 11:38 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn!!!
Wieters taken.  I hate the Orioles!!!
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:38 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Damn!!!
I hope Boras plays hardball with the Orioles and Wieters falls back into the 2008 draft.
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:40 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I knew that was gonna happen. Balti wanted to make an impact and show they're willing to spend. FUCK!

by Kestrel on Jun 7, 2007 11:38 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
fucking orioles.
I adopted Barry Bonds

by BondsApologist on Jun 7, 2007 11:38 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Well, so much for that. GOGO MILLS.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:38 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
That would be cool, though - if after the world series, all the players in MLB were draftable again!

by zenbitz on Jun 7, 2007 12:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
even without weiters we can still pick up Canham later on, he is a  pretty good C
I adopted Barry Bonds

by BondsApologist on Jun 7, 2007 11:39 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Do we want Detwiler if he's there?

by Evan on Jun 7, 2007 11:39 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Not over Mills.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:40 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I think either Mills or LaPorta will be available at 22, and I'd be happy with either. I'd have to take Porcello, Parker, or Detwiler at 10.

by Evan on Jun 7, 2007 11:41 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Go Mills, Mills. Go Mills, Mills...

by sfgfan on Jun 7, 2007 11:39 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Nats are mocked to draft Aumont or Detwiler
They should take Aumont and move back to Montreal.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:43 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Brewers mocked for Parker
I finally figured out why you keep saying "mocked." Please stop.

by Evan on Jun 7, 2007 11:45 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Done
excuse any confusion

by wilriv21 on Jun 7, 2007 11:50 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did...
anyone read about Giant interest in Dominguez?
Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Jun 7, 2007 11:44 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: did...
No, but he sounds like a natural fit -- Pedro Feliz Jr.

by Evan on Jun 7, 2007 11:45 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that...
is actually a fairly good comp.
Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Jun 7, 2007 11:47 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: that...
In all fairness, that's probably his worst-case scenario.

by Evan on Jun 7, 2007 11:48 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I'd be reaaally iffy about handing a high school pitcher the amount of $$ he's asking for. And I don't think the Giants can really afford to let him go unsigned and wait until next year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:46 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Does the coverage today include the sandwich round?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:46 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

weird
Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Jun 7, 2007 11:48 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Laporta to Milwaukee
Who dat is? That's just Ortmeier's daddy.

by rotorueter on Jun 7, 2007 11:48 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
wow. Laporta to Brewers at #7.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 11:48 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Damn. I was hoping for LaPorta in the 20s.

by Grant on Jun 7, 2007 11:49 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am liking...
how it has shaped up so far.
Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Jun 7, 2007 11:49 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Holy cr*p!  Most drafts I saw had LaPorta falling past the first round!  I thought we might get him at #22, outside #29.  I guess we got Mills, unless, that is, he is picked by one of the teams ahead of us.
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:50 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I guess we got Mills, unless, that is, he is picked by one of the teams ahead of us.

Good analysis.

Steve Kline: He's pretty okay!

by groug on Jun 7, 2007 11:51 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that pick...
made no sense.  He can barely play the field!
Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Jun 7, 2007 11:51 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
LaPorta? That's a weird pick for them... I know you don't draft on need in the top 10, but he's close to major league ready and doesn't seem to have a position other than 1b... and the Brewers are kinda set at 1B for the next 5 years or so.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:50 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Yeah, Brewers taking a 1B ... that's one of the few cases where you have to think of the makeup of the big-league team when you draft.

by Evan on Jun 7, 2007 11:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Whoa? Take the best talent and all, but LaPorta is a 1b - and can't move anywhere - while the Brewers have Fielder. Makes no sense to me.

by Aadik on Jun 7, 2007 11:51 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
prince is too fat to last much longer.

by SFfaninNYC on Jun 7, 2007 11:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
He is fat, but I don't see any reason why he won't be able to last until his late 20s at least.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:53 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
That makes some sense, plus, Fielder will end up making a lot more money

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:53 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Analysts said they would trade him for what they need next year.
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:54 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Will the Rockies take Dominguez so they can have 4547636 Third Baseman in their system?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 7, 2007 11:52 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weathers...
projects as a back of the rotation starter! Another pick I don't really like.
Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Jun 7, 2007 11:54 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Weathers...
well he's a closer now . . .
In Soviet Russia, save blows Benitez!

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 7, 2007 11:55 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
It could be a domino from Moustakas moving up so high and selected #2 and Wieters being picked by the Nats.

If Mills should be gone, I wonder where we go...

"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:53 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Parker, Heyward, Porcello, Aumont, others could be there if Mills isn't.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:54 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aumont
Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Jun 7, 2007 11:54 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
It would be just like the Rockies to take the guy the Giants want.

by out machine on Jun 7, 2007 11:53 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
yeah, that bullshit excuse for a team has been hosing us for years. 0 for the season in 1993 vs. the braves.
I adopted Barry Bonds

by BondsApologist on Jun 7, 2007 11:54 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
D-Backs will do the same thing. Watch Parker go next.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 11:54 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Meh, I don't see how you can pick a closer so high in the draft.  Good for Rockies, ruin another pitcher.  :^)
"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2007 11:55 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
good pick for the rockies.
\
better one for us
In Soviet Russia, save blows Benitez!

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 7, 2007 11:54 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I am ok with the rocks taking him there. i feel that is an overdraft so they arent maximizing value with that pick
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 7, 2007 11:54 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Lol Rockies.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:54 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great news
SF will get either Parker, Aumont or Schmidt

by wilriv21 on Jun 7, 2007 11:54 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Great news
...or Mills.
Steve Kline: He's pretty okay!

by groug on Jun 7, 2007 11:55 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
I'm reeallllllly glad that Moskas and Weathers aren't available.

by Evan on Jun 7, 2007 11:55 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pretty...
much the best case scenario (except for Weiters)
Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Jun 7, 2007 11:56 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
i'm hopin for parker, porcello, mills, or heyward (in no particular order)
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 7, 2007 11:55 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1
I hope it's one of those four.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 7, 2007 11:56 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
Karl Ravech said Giants are getting better. Wtf?

by giants92388 on Jun 7, 2007 11:56 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They're getting better all the time
Mostly because they can't get no worse.
Steve Kline: He's pretty okay!

by groug on Jun 7, 2007 11:57 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread, 2007
he specified young pitching.
Never tell me the odds.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2007 11:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs