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Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft

They did a five round mock draft over at John Sickel's minorleagueball.com.  I am not much of a draft guru(wish I was) so I am curious to know how people would feel if the draft played out this way or similar to it.  The Giants picks were made by a poster named MPK and here is what he thought of his drafting:

Not completely happy with my performance.  Made a mistake or two and screwed up on Fairley's value.  

Got some high-school pitchers I believe in, a couple CFs with high ceilings, and two polished college pitchers.  Just missed on a couple guys I really liked with my 1st couple picks.

Any comments, questions, etc... would be appreciated.

#10 Madison Bumgarner-I was hoping to get a shot at Parker, Heyward, or Detwiler, but it was not to be.  This pick easily could have been Harvey or Aumont, but I liked Bumgarner's easy velocity and athleticism.  Hopefully he can be taught a change to help neutralize righties.  Should I have gone in a different direction here?

#22 Corey Brown-Just missed on Mesoraco and Ahrens here.  Brown isn't a terrible consolation prize as he should stick in center and is a well-rounded offensive player.  I can understand anyone who would take Main here.  Not a huge Borbon or LaPorta fan, so they weren't really options.  Thought about Weathers, but I was pretty sure I could get better value for a fast- moving reliever later in the draft.

#29 Nevin Griffith-Burgess, Schmidt, and Fairley were considered here as well.  Was tempted by Brackman, but there were too many negatives in his total package.  I really like guys who can command and pitch off their fastball, plus Griffith is athletic and projectable.

#32 Wendell Fairley-I goofed here.  Probably coulda nabbed him at 43 and gotten Burgess, Poreda, etc...at this slot.  I do however believe in Fairley's ability and the chance he can be an offensive and defensive standout in CF.  Still a risky pick, plus I miscalculated the interest in him so not my best selection.

#43 James Simmons-I really like guys who can pitch off their fastball and Simmons personifies that criteria.  He's still 20, but should move pretty quick and provide some level of immediate security from this draft.

#51 Kyle Blair-Another pick I wish I could have back.  I like Blair's total package (fastball around 90, plus curve, projectable, good makeup, athletic) and believe in his upside, but had him rated similarily to Kentrail Davis and Kellen Kulbacki, and given the state of the Giants farm system a bat may have been better.

#164 Jonathan Holt-One of my favorite picks.  Hopefully he's the 2007 version of Joe Smith.  Another guy with great fastball command. Close to a sidearmer and has excellent control of a high-80's sinker.  Had a 60-4 K/BB ratio for U of Tampa this year.  Decent size, durable, and should be a really fast-mover.  Would have preferred Cory Gearrin because of his slider, but I'm happy with Holt despite the limited upside.

Here is a link to the diary above:

http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2007/6/3/202249/9716

Link to the entire draft so you know who was available when he selected:

http://www.minorleagueball.com/

Is this how the draft is going to play out with all the hitters gone by #10?  Would you take Matt Dominguez over Bumgarner or is that too big of a reach?  

What would you have done or would like to see?

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Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
I doubt all of the big hitters will be gone by 10... at least, I'm hoping they won't be! That would really suck!
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by jponry on Jun 3, 2007 11:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
I don't put much stock into that mock draft, mainly because it was done by fans.

Fans are notoriously vulnerable to hype (or anti-hype), and also have no signability concerns, and are far more likely to take high schoolers.  The draft got VERY unrealistic after about #5 overall.  Mills, Parker and Heyward are the only real risks to go between #5-10 out of the five picked there, but they all aren't likely to go.  Aumont and Smoker are strong chances to go up there, but they slipped.  Dominguez, Alderson and Mesoraco went higher than they probably will (and possibly by 10 or more picks for the latter two), and guys like LaPorta and Beavan slipped too far.

15 of the Top 20 picks in that draft were high schoolers.  This is a very good high school class, but I'll be surprised if more than 10 go in the Top 20.

Even more unlikely is 17 of the 34 supplemental round picks being high schoolers.  I'd say 25% of that round will be high schoolers at most.

by BruteSentiment on Jun 4, 2007 12:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
There is no way the Royals take Wieters at #2 (right? right?).

Is MPK a poster here?  I noticed that one of our posters, z4landshark, was picking for the Reds.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 4, 2007 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
and MPK is not a poster here...he is a Braves fan who took the giants b/c they had a lot of draft picks
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 4, 2007 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
i am a little curious that you say that dominguez at 15 (i was the reds scouting director) is going to be higher than he will probably be drafted.  from what i can tell i know he doesnt have some of the outstanding skills as moustakas or vitters but he is a very good athlete. i like that he seems disciplined and makes consistent hard contact driving the ball to all parts of the field. the scouting report says that his strength is his "Good solid bat with power potential." And I also like that "he's considered to be one of the better defensive third baseman to come out of a draft in a long time."
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/events/draft_report/y2007/index.jsp?mc=dominguez

I would personally really be fine if the giants could nab him at 10 if the draft played out as it did. He seems just like a solid baseball player who has the potential for making some all star games.

AND taking Dominguez at number 10 isnt even really "reaching." BA's latest draft tracker has Dominguez at number 13. i really think that the sf giants need to consider him if guys like parker and wieters are gone and we are considering bumgarner. dominguez seems like he will be a solid offensive player who will provide good defense at 3B as well.

Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 4, 2007 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
I'm just going by what I've heard.  I think Dominguez will last until at least #18 with the Cards, and probably be drafted in the 20's.

I'd not want to take him at 10, there'll be someone with a higher impact there.

by BruteSentiment on Jun 4, 2007 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
Fans on a site like that favor hitting prospects much more than the average MLB GM. I will be surprised if there is an early run on hitters in the real draft.

Even if there is, I wouldn't be opposed to reaching for a Dominguez, LaPorta, or even Justin Jackson at #10.  Are we really sure that Bumgarner is a better pick than any of those 3?  We need hitters!

One thing I learned from this mock draft is that this year's crop is deep enough and good enough to allow quite a bit of flexibilty.  A team can draft for need and still get excellent prospects.  The only real constraint is if you are specifically looking for college RHP's in the first round.

by DrBGiantsfan on Jun 4, 2007 6:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
I agree about the vagaries of fan-selecting (and I'm looking at myself, too). I'm expecting only 3 teams ahead of us to be looking for hitters, so I'm certainly hoping this mock draft is nothing like the real thing. If the Royals, Nationals, and Diamondbacks all take hitters, we are screwed.

That being said, once Vitters, Wieters, and Moustakas were off the MVN board, you were really in a pickle with #10. I think I'd have leaned to Matt LaPorta or Matt Dominguez there (in our continuing effort to field an all-Matt team). All overdrafts of one degree or another, I concede, but we've got to get a professional hitter out of this draft. LaPorta's not my favorite by any means, but he'd have a quicker payoff than Dominguez (who I actually like quite a bit, just not at #10). I'd have preferred Michael Main at #22, although I certainly understand the attraction of Corey Brown - I just wouldn't pick him that high. I do think Nevin Griffith is a great choice at #29 - kudos on that, and especially on staying away from Brackman in the top 30!

In the supplemental round, I'd much prefer Will Middlebrooks to Wendell Fairley, but you've already said you'd do this differently. I think James Simmons is a good choice at #43, but I'd choose Travis D'Arnaud there instead; Mitch Canham is dropping in my estimation, but we still need a catcher someday.

Finally, with our glaring need for hitters I'd be inclined to pick one at #51, particularly if I already had Michael Main and Nevin Griffith (and possibly James Simmons if D'Arnaud was gone). I'd take a shot on Kentrail Davis or Grant Desme or Kevin Patterson - maybe even Travis Mattair (I don't know enough about him to overdraft him that much, but we really need 3Bmen).

It was fun to look at, Nick. Thanks!

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by Lyle on Jun 4, 2007 7:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
And also about James Simmons. For some reason, I am not overly thrilled about him at all.  His ceiling to me seems at best a #4 type pitcher.

He sits at 88-92 mph and his strengths are that he has outstanding command of his fastball and changeup.  HOwever, the scouting report says his best pitch, the changeup, still only grades out to an average to plus pitch. His fastball is average. Currently, his curveball and slider are both below average.

I would like the giants to mix high ceiling players with polished guys, but I do not want the giants to draft too many safe, polished players.
At #43, I still want the giants taking some "risks". Right after this pick, several guys went who would all have really excited me a lot more than Simmons.

  1. Rangers: Jake Arrieta, RHP, TCU
  2. Blue Jays: Ryan Dent, SS, California HS
  3. Padres: Drew Cumberland, SS, Florida HS
  4. Nationals: Neil Ramirez, RHP, Virginia HS
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 4, 2007 9:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
For what it's worth, a recent Scout.com report said that, since it's looking like Parker will be gone by #10, Bumgarner is getting a long look from the Giants.

by BruteSentiment on Jun 4, 2007 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
is jason heyward going to be gone as well?
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 4, 2007 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
Do you think Wieters will be available at #10 if Parker isn't?  How do you feel about Mills at #10?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 4, 2007 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: No way Wieters should be there at 10
no way he SHOULD, but there's a slim chance he falls due to signability/money issues. i'm hoping that miracle happens again.
Sabean stop giving away our first round draft picks!!

by z4 landshark on Jun 4, 2007 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
I've heard Heyward everywhere from #7 to the Sandwich round.  I think there's a very good chance he'll be there at #10, but I think he'll be gone before pick #20.  Someone will take the risk.

I don't think Wieters availability will relate much to Parker.  From what I've heard, I'd estimate that there's about a 1 in 10 chance Wieters falls.  I agree, he SHOULDN'T be there; he's a legitimate #1 choice overall.  But after last year, I won't say it's impossible.  But he shouldn't be there, and we shouldn't be too disappointed if he isn't.

I LOVE Mills at 10.  Frankly, there's only one player I would take over Mills at 10: Wieters.  I'm not even sure I'd take Price or Porcello over Mills (but luckily, that's not a likely decision to have to be made).  I'd definitely take Mills over any of the high school pitchers discussed, over LaPorta, and probably over Moustakas, Vitters.  And yes, over Heyward.  Mills is simply too perfect a fit, IMO.

by BruteSentiment on Jun 4, 2007 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Brute!
I agee with you!  It's Mills for me if he's still there.  I might prefer Price or Wieters, but I'm not even sure about Wieters.  I would definitely take Mills if we had the #3 pick!

by DrBGiantsfan on Jun 4, 2007 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
I mostly agree with you about mills, however I think both Vitters and Porcello would definitely be the pick for me.
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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 4, 2007 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Minorleagueball.com's Mock Draft
Yeaaahhh, that's a really bad draft for us, but I agree, that's definitely not what's going to happen on thursday
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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jun 4, 2007 4:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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