Quick note....

Re: Quick note....

False, because the Giants will try Kevin Correia and Brian Wilson before trading for David Weathers.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 10:22 AM PDT reply actions

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True, except it will be Eddie Guardalo(sp?) instead of Weathers.

by Aadik on Jun 1, 2007 10:32 AM PDT reply actions

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actually, I think it will be Mike Stanton instead of Weathers.

Tim Lincecum has been freed!

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 1, 2007 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions

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Great minds think alike...and ours do, too. Stanton was the first name that occurred to me.

Proud adoptive father of the All-Father and his 1.99 ERA

by EliminateMe on Jun 1, 2007 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions

This proves once again

Great Minds think alike about Mediocre Arms.

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions

The Closer You Get -- The Better Nen Seems

Bochy is going to conduct open auditions for players from within the organization.

Sabean has nightmares about the pitching -- notably relievers that he had little regard for -- he has let go the last four years. And he will certainly not touch or trade four of his five starters, because it is canon that reliable Starting Pitching is the bulwark of team-building.

Get ready for the New Era of Giants ninth inning baseball -- Amateur Hour.

It's going to be interesting, but probably not consistently enjoyable.

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 10:35 AM PDT reply actions

Re: The Closer You Get -- The Better Nen Seems

As opposed to having Benitez in all the time in the 9th which was consistently enjoyable.

by paboperfecto on Jun 1, 2007 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions

Gameday Threads were a Perverse Joy to Behold

What was enjoyable was the increased level of sarcastic bite this site expressed in the ninth inning of Mando gems...

;-)

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: The Closer You Get -- The Better Nen Seems

"interesting, but probably not consistently enjoyable" pretty much sums up the last 40+ years that I've been a Giants fan...

by Jakespaar on Jun 1, 2007 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: The Closer You Get -- The Better Nen Seems

That made me laugh. Then it made me cry. I'm going to jump.

Just one time before I die

by Katman on Jun 1, 2007 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Splash Hits of a different kind

Better hurry if you're going to end it all.

Just weeks ago, we stationed a McCovey film crew on the Golden Gate Bridge to record last, lurching testaments of hopless fans.

The crew is happily packing up its equipment this week.

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Splash Hits of a different kind

(By the way -- With great mercy, it's the "hopless" ones that we have to shove over the railing.)

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Splash Hits of a different kind

send them to my hometown: Hopland.

Succumb to Tiny Tim! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Jun 1, 2007 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions

In Mendo? Could improve their hops...

... but it could give them the yips.

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Splash Hits of a different kind

HEY :-O We might have the makings of the next big "Reality TV" hit

by Jakespaar on Jun 1, 2007 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions

The Giants Bite, and

Reality Hops.

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: The Closer You Get -- The Better Nen Seems

Since I'm younger than 40 and so haven't been a Giant's fan quite that long I guess I haven't become as bitter as some of the people who have been Giant's fans for longer. :)

by paboperfecto on Jun 1, 2007 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: The Closer You Get -- The Better Nen Seems

Very diplomatically put Pabo. You probably meant us bitter old farts. :-O Don't despair, given enough time you too can learn to despair... You too can become pessimistic, cynical, angry, and yes bitter. ;-)

You'll have ups and downs. You will experience the entire range of emotions. At times you'll laugh, and at others you will want to cry. If you don't already, you'll begin to yell at the TV when our boys are screwing up.

Hopefully, you and the rest of us will one day feel the ultimate joy of watching our boys win the Big One. Personally, I haven't gotten over 2002, and I may never. That was a WORLD CLASS choke job!

I sincerely hope to experience the same type of joy (as a Giants fan) as I enjoyed when the Niners won their first Super Bowl. Unfortunately, for me, the closest thing to that was watching the Red Socks (in 2004) come from behind and kick the Yankee's asses (against all odds) and then go on to win the World Series.

by Jakespaar on Jun 5, 2007 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Quick note....

sadly, I think it might be true.

2002? I'm over it. But I'll never be over Rich Aurilia.

by wjackalope on Jun 1, 2007 10:38 AM PDT reply actions

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False... I'd like to keep my last little bits of faith in humanity and hope that he's learned his lesson by now.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 10:39 AM PDT reply actions

If....

Brian Sabean has proven one thing in his tenure it is that he does not learn lessons.

Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Jun 1, 2007 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions

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Grant is telling the truth. The odds say it.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." - Jimi Hendrix

by GiantJim on Jun 1, 2007 10:53 AM PDT reply actions

Re: Quick note....

Is Jeff Brantley still in shape?

wCovington

by wcovington on Jun 1, 2007 10:53 AM PDT reply actions

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If by "in shape" you mean a loudmouth idiot, then yes.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 1, 2007 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions

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Over/under for Giants wins this year: 77

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 1, 2007 11:02 AM PDT reply actions

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under

Tim Lincecum has been freed!

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 1, 2007 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions

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under siege

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions

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Over. I still believe the team is better than last year. Maybe only 2 or 3 games better, but dammit... better...

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jun 1, 2007 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: Quick note....

only with an added bat or bonds resurgence.

Succumb to Tiny Tim! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Jun 1, 2007 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions

C'mon, it's hitting we need

Jonathan Sanchez and Noah Lowry for Jeff Conine. Bank on it.

Bruce Bochy gets his big head from me.

by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 1, 2007 11:36 AM PDT reply actions

Re: C'mon, it's hitting we need

Gross.

If you root for the Dodgers, the terrorists have already won.

by SF Pete on Jun 1, 2007 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: C'mon, it's hitting we need

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Proud adoptive father of the All-Father and his 1.99 ERA

by EliminateMe on Jun 1, 2007 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Second Coming

That's usually okay if you just had some Ben & Jerry's.

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions

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I have a new strategy: Phone it in. We're not making the playoffs so let's just start throwing games left and right to get the #1 pick and draft Pedro Alvarez.

IT'S FOOLPROOF!

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 1, 2007 11:38 AM PDT reply actions

Do I hear capitulation?

DFA Everybody

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions

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Sabean will find a way then to trade down his pick even though in Baseball you can't trade draft picks...Thats how good Sabes is!!

"Buy High-Sell Low"--The Brian Sabean Method Of Trading

by Mordy From Monsey on Jun 1, 2007 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Quick note....

We just lost our best Thrower Of Games.

ArMarlin Benitez. Talk about cutting your losses!

by victor frankenstein on Jun 1, 2007 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions

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False, they will make that exact trade whether or not Hennessey fails.

by zenbitz on Jun 1, 2007 11:46 AM PDT reply actions

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Semantics.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 1, 2007 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions

Also known as

Semantessey.

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions

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False, Hennessey won't fail.

Proud Papa of Brad Hennessey since 2007. Newly minted closer?

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 1, 2007 12:04 PM PDT reply actions

Yes, we must do something with Noah immediately

We must cradle him in our arms and never let him go.

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 12:13 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Quick note....

Sabean seems to like Adrian Beltre better. I can see him trading Lowry for Beltre and making a big, big mistake.

Hate to be the Messenger of bad news, but strike three, you're out!!

by rxmeister on Jun 1, 2007 12:21 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Quick note....

I wouldn't be happy with that, but I'd be a lot less happy if they traded Lowry just for the sake of trading him.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions

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And what, exactly, is the right move? What this lineup really needs is a hitter who can play third or RF with a .900 OPS at least. How many of those are available? How many of them could actually be had for Lowry?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions

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If Adrian Betre finishes the year with an OPS >.900 I will eat [pause to look up stats]...

well maybe a small soft baseball, or ping-pong ball. Currently .816. Has exactly 1 year with OPS > .800.

Crawford's career OPS is <.800 although young and .863 this year. A nice player, but not going to put us in the playoffs.

Sexon's looking done.

Texiera is a legit stud... available? For Lowry or Morris?
I would make this move because even if we miss the playoffs this year, he's a good play to lock up for the next 4-5.

by zenbitz on Jun 1, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Quick note....

some of those guys (Rios, Crawford) might not even be traded for Cain, and of the others, one is maybe worth Lowry (Texeira) and the other two probably aren't.

That said, we need a friggin' hitter. I'd definitely do Lowry for Texeira, and could maybe even be suckered into Sexson or Beltre.

Succumb to Tiny Tim! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Jun 1, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions

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Yeah, I doubt the Rangers would trade Teixeira for Lowry. Maybe Lowry, Sanchez and another prospect... which I might be convinced to do, but even then it seems a little iffy to me. I think that if the Rangers really put him on the market, they'd be able to get a better offer than that.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions

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Are you nuts? Do you think we're likely to get those guys for Lowry?

by Aadik on Jun 1, 2007 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions

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On Rios: what part of a 26 year-old batting .300 with 12 homers and 29 RBIs a third of the way into the season do you not understand?

Succumb to Tiny Tim! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Jun 1, 2007 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Quick note....

You forgot "who makes only $2.535 million"

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions

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The thing with Lowry that worries me WRT trading him are his peripherals. Yes, he's done well so far despite them, but I can't help but feel like opposing GMs would notice them. And I can't help but feel like throwing him into the AL East, where every team can hit, would really expose a lot of his weaknesses that go unnoticed against weak hitting NL West clubs.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Quick note....

Don't folks around here often complain that Sabean et al don't pay attention to "advanced" stats? Seems to me like there are a lot of GMs who are at least as old-school as Sabean, or more so...

Proud adoptive father of the All-Father and his 1.99 ERA

by EliminateMe on Jun 1, 2007 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions

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Ricciardi isn't one of them. He may be a bad GM, but he will notice peripherals. He was Billy Beane's assistant in Oakland.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions

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I've never seen a Beltre trade rumor but do know that Sabean very actively tried to trade for Sexson before Arizona got him.

"No batboy can throw a ball like that." - Randy Winn, when someone noted that Lincecum look like a teenage batboy

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 1, 2007 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions

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Even if he were to do that (which isn't likely) that wouldn't be enough to put this team in the playoffs. We're just not good enough.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 1, 2007 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions

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The Dodgers, Padres, and Diamondbacks are all better than us overall and they have a 5.5 game lead.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 1, 2007 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions

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5.5 game lead = nothing. Jake just loves to spew anti-giants propaganda. I've been there. Nasty stage that is. He'll come out of it eventually, to "acceptance."

by GameSix on Jun 1, 2007 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions

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What is it with the "Jake hates the Giants" bias crap? Jake is one of the smartest posters here, even when I don't agree with him.

I think our pitching is good enough that we could make a run for the division if the guys who aren't hitting start hitting and we get another bat. An early 5.5 game deficit isn't insurmountable.

But those are big ifs, and Jake is right to point them out.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions

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If you don't believe in "clutchy veternness" or "knowing how to win", you hate the Giants. Its an asinine statement, by another one of the "LETS TRADE BENTIZ FOR MIGUEL CABRERA LOLZ" crowd.

by Aadik on Jun 1, 2007 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Quick note....

When all the Sexson rumors started this offseason, I read somewhere that they were just a smokescreen, and he was actually after Beltre.

Hate to be the Messenger of bad news, but strike three, you're out!!

by rxmeister on Jun 2, 2007 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: Quick note....

I wouldn't mind Beltre, but not for a key pitcher. This would not be a desperation move like with Benitez. If the Giants add a salary like Beltre's, it better not be at a huge cost of talent.

Hate to be the Messenger of bad news, but strike three, you're out!!

by rxmeister on Jun 1, 2007 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions

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Yeah, they want to get rid of him because he's done. He's hitting .196/.297/.387.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 1, 2007 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Quick note....

he was doing that last year, and he wound up finishing strong. If the guy is a career .250 hitter and he's hitting .150, it's probably better to trade for a guy like that instead of a career .250 hitter who's hitting .350.

Hate to be the Messenger of bad news, but strike three, you're out!!

by rxmeister on Jun 2, 2007 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions

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Rixie!!!!!1!

ArMarlin Benitez. Talk about cutting your losses!

by victor frankenstein on Jun 1, 2007 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Two runs per game and a long, hot summer

Sabean knows his report card on recent trades has been modest to miserable.

He said on the air yesterday he is not likely to trade frontline pitching for a big bat. I believe him, and even support him in that stance.

But that means we wait until money is available next year to buy offense in free agency, because it is NOT coming from the farm system anytime soon.

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 12:32 PM PDT reply actions

2008 Free Agents...

I'll take an Andruw Jones, medium fries, and a large Dr. Pepper.

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jun 1, 2007 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: 2008 Free Agents...

Just our luck. That hot dog comes supersized.

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: 2008 Free Agents...

Eh... I just looked at his BB Reference page. Decent, but for the amount he'll go for, I'd rather look elsewhere. Good call.

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jun 1, 2007 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions

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Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 1, 2007 12:41 PM PDT reply actions

Riddle Me This

The Closer I look, A Closer he looks.

by Moggeee on Jun 1, 2007 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Quick note....

C'MON!

Mike McBryde ... A Giants' prospect that won't kidnap and kill you.

WITFAC

by squirrel on Jun 1, 2007 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Quick note....

Underline "won't" because then it makes it look like....

by mjrboredom on Jun 1, 2007 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Picked up Henny in fantasy league Tues night

as a preemptive move which looks brilliant now.

That move certainly made my banana stand.

by awesomer @ McCovey Chronicles on Jun 1, 2007 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Right trade for Crawford...

The Lincecum + Lowry + Villalona deal?

by awesomer @ McCovey Chronicles on Jun 1, 2007 12:48 PM PDT reply actions

I see your first post was today

Welcome and soon you will learn that your trade proposals do not make any sense. Tampa has turned down deals for Carl in the past including something like Ervin Santana + Nick Adenhart + Erick Aybar. The Giants have nothing to offer save Lincecum or Cain that comes close to sniffing this.

by awesomer @ McCovey Chronicles on Jun 1, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

awesomer, i sometimes really, really agree with you.

Succumb to Tiny Tim! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Jun 1, 2007 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

Thank you, that really, really needed to be said.

Adopted Giant: Mark Sweeney. Yes, he's still on the team.

by scotterduder on Jun 1, 2007 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

I don't know, try to get Jonny Gomes for relatively cheap from the Devil Rays, because he just got sent down to the minors. Lowry is alright and all, but he has not been consistent enough to get a proven stud like Rios or Crawford. Even Texeira is a stretch, I think.

Adopted Giant: Mark Sweeney. Yes, he's still on the team.

by scotterduder on Jun 1, 2007 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

I would consider Teixeira more of a proven stud than Rios or Crawford.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

Uh, the stolen base is really the least of this team's worries.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

In the same vein, Carl Crawford isn't going to hit 40 HR, get on base at a .370 clip and slug .550 for us. And, I would argue, we need a player like that far more than we need a player who can steal 50 bags.

(Not that I don't like Crawford, because he's an excellent player, but I think the team needs a Teixeira type a lot more than it needs a Crawford type.)

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

My wife, who is really good at this kind of stuff, is always saying that Teixera would look good in the french vanilla.

Succumb to Tiny Tim! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Jun 1, 2007 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

only if that pitcher is Armando Benitez. Dave Roberts is supposed to do the same thing, and he hasn't done it yet. That being said, Crawford is a great player and is going to cost too much, although if I were them, I would take Lowry, Sanchez and Sadler for him.

Hate to be the Messenger of bad news, but strike three, you're out!!

by rxmeister on Jun 2, 2007 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

Yeah, I guess you're right, I kind of got suckered into the prevailing opinion that Teixeira isn't that good. A guy that can hit 50 homers is always kind of useful...

Adopted Giant: Mark Sweeney. Yes, he's still on the team.

by scotterduder on Jun 1, 2007 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

So the one stat you want to use is his OBP from this year, when he has not gotten consistent playing time at all and has a tiny sample size? Okay, good luck with that, I'm done with you.

Adopted Giant: Mark Sweeney. Yes, he's still on the team.

by scotterduder on Jun 1, 2007 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

He was injured in the second half last year.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

No one's acting like he's a topnotch outfielder. But his stock is at an absolute low and he has shown the ability to be a good hitter (in the past, when he's not injured.) He wouldn't take Lowry to acquire but he can probably be a reasonably effective hitter for the rest of the season. It's a lowkey acquisition that would probably help the team and wouldn't cost a ton in terms of players/prospects.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

Why don't you look at his stats from when he was healthy?

A .906 OPS as a 24 year old in 2004.
A .863 OPS in the first half as a 25 year old in 2005, before he got injured in the second half.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

That's a sample size of 187 games.
He struck out 200 times in 628 at bats, which is high but not terrible (especially since he got on base at a .372 and .352 clip and slugged .556 and .511 those two years.)
He was injured in the second half last year and is healthy now, but he's fallen out of favor with the Rays.

Like I said, no one is saying that he's a savior. But he makes more sense for this team, in terms of cost, than it does to try to acquire the guys you've mentioned (who would all cost more than Lowry.)

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

don't argue with the guy. All the rest of us see your point. I'd be very happy with a trade of minor leaguer(s) for Gomes.

Succumb to Tiny Tim! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy

by hairball on Jun 1, 2007 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

I think Gomes will hit, but his defense is supposed to be quite poor, so he has to hit well to retain his value. He may be worth the risk, but there is definitely risk: will the team be able to rely on him? I don't know, and that may not be a risk this team can take.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

It would definitely be a risky acquisition and I don't know if it would be completely ideal, but I'd rather look at trades like this than pretend that we're going to get Carl Crawford or Alex Rios for Noah Lowry.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

I don't think that at all. In fact, I'd prefer they didn't. I'm glad we missed out on those four from last offseason. I'm more than ready for a real rebuilding effort instead of these BS playoff pushes where we actually lose 85 games and finish under .500.

I'd love to trade Lowry for an Alex Rios or Carl Crawford type player, but I really don't think it's realistic. Though if Sabes is going to trade Lowry, he should do it ASAP.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

Also, I don't think the Devil Rays have nearly the same need for starting pitching that they used to. They've got a very, very nice collection of young starting pitching (and could add David Price to it next week), probably just as good as ours.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions

Cards have Pujols?

Pujols > entire giants offense not named Barry.

by awesomer @ McCovey Chronicles on Jun 1, 2007 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Cards have Pujols?

I'd say they had some help from the Tigers pitchers forgetting how to field their positions too.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

They have Kazmir, Shields, Jacob McGee, Jeff Niemann, Andy Sonnanstine, Jason Hammel, probably David Price after next week, Wade Davis, and some fungible guys like JP Howell or Jeremy Hellickson. I don't know... obviously young pitchers are very volatile, but that's a pretty huge assortment of guys who look like they could be major league pitchers.

And like I said, I don't think one player is going to turn this team into a playoff team. I don't know if one player could even turn this team into a .500 team.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

Yeah, we did a great job of it in 05 and 06.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

This is getting awkward to read!

Mandowear | comics | Sugarman FTW

by Natto on Jun 1, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

I wonder if we can get it to one letter per line!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

No, the thread will expand.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

Those teams needed less fixing than this one. And guys got hot. COuld that happen this year? Sure. Can we count on it? No.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

Yes. The D-Rays may need pitching now, but they definitely have some coming through their system.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

Your points are well-taken as always, sistah.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

nuke the site from orbit.
It's the only way to be sure.

by zenbitz on Jun 1, 2007 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

Yeah, but even that didn't work, remember?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions

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Wet for Wetteland in 07

My favorite band? Danity Cain!

by longus on Jun 1, 2007 1:05 PM PDT reply actions

Re: I see your first post was today

Um, every scouting list of minor leaguers in America? Maybe?

Adopted Giant: Mark Sweeney. Yes, he's still on the team.

by scotterduder on Jun 1, 2007 2:04 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Quick note....

I have to say, I'm not sure why people seem to think Rios is even an option. From what I've seen of Blue Jays fans, he's probably their second-most popular player after Halladay.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 2:20 PM PDT reply actions

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More than Vernon Wells?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions

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It's a small sample size of Jays fans, I'll admit, but they're absolutely crazy for Rios.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 1, 2007 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions

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Rios is a fricken stud, they should be crazy about him, he will be better than Vernon Wells. I'm not sure he isn't right now.

I will go out on a limb and say that Hennessey will be the surest thing the Giants have had in the 9th since 2003 with Tim Worrell.

David Weathers would certainly be a typical Sabean move and I actually wouldn't mind him but certainly wouldn't part with a guy like Sanchez for him. I may give them Sadler and Misch.

http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/

by trecole696 on Jun 1, 2007 3:32 PM PDT reply actions

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I wouldn't give up both Sadler and Misch for Weathers. Maybe one or the other.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions

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How healthy is Glaus now?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions

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I would have no problems with Glaus at third or first for us. His glove may suck, but he would immediately replace Bengie as our second best hitter. Molina is great and all, but in no way shape or form should he be our next best stick. It's just weird.

The bright side: Brian Sabean should be out of a job in a few months.

by Punch Rockgroin on Jun 1, 2007 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Quick note....

A quick note that I thought might relate to this thread:

Mychael Urban of the Examiner seems to think that A-Rod might end up in Black and Orange.

http://www.examiner.com/a-756106~Urban__Dice_K__A_Rod_and__yes__more_Barry.html

Althought I do seem to distrust him solely based on how he spells his first name...

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jun 1, 2007 3:47 PM PDT reply actions

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There's also this article that printed a few days ago. Nothing really concrete other than the "insider talks speculate...."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/26/SPGACQ1VU41.DTL

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Jun 1, 2007 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions

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I seem to distrust him because he writes for the Examiner.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 1, 2007 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions

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what does he know?? He's the same guy who said that Barry Zito would sign with the Giants when everybody else said the Mets. Oh, he did?? I believe he was close to Zito though, I'm not sure he has the same connections with A.Rod. With our luck, A.Rod will sign, break up with that hot stripper of his, and she will tell everyone that A.Rod uses steroids. Ten more years of everyone calling the Giants cheaters!!

Hate to be the Messenger of bad news, but strike three, you're out!!

by rxmeister on Jun 2, 2007 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions