No freaking way: "I'm doing my job" -Mando

by scotterduder on May 25, 2007 11:59 PM PDT Comment 36 comments

Okay, so the loss wasn't entirely Benitez's fault, and he had some bad luck, but did he have to go and talk about his "job" again? He must know how much we hate that. From the AP recap :

"I'm doing my job, I got three groundballs and what happened?" Benitez asked. "We had an opportunity to win the game. How many times we got somebody on base and nobody moved him? Somebody had to pay and the person that paid was me. He hit a good pitch, a slider away, and a sinker."

Ugh. There go any good vibes we had going.

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Re: No freaking way: "I'm doing my job"

Geez, what a douchebag. Maybe you should have tried holding the runners on, Mando? That's part of your job too, man.

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by jponry on May 26, 2007 1:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: No freaking way: "I'm doing my job"

He is doing his job.

Badly.

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by groug on May 26, 2007 1:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

"I'm doing my job" -Mando

Trade.HIm.Soon. Mando has no sense of being a teammate...he pretty consistently trashes teammates. Not good for chemistry.

Trade him and let's try Ortiz in his place.

by whataboutbob on May 26, 2007 2:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: "I'm doing my job" -Mando

Trade him and let's try Zamfir , Master Of The Panflute in his place.

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by victor frankenstein on May 26, 2007 3:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: No freaking way

Three ground balls? Ever heard of a strikeout? Other closers do it all the time.

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by rotorueter on May 26, 2007 6:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: No freaking way

Armando has move strikeouts then innings pitched so what is your point?

by giantsrainman on May 26, 2007 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Allow me to help here

Benitez's WHIP is 1.44

That is worse than any of our starters, and only .01 better than Vinnie Chulk. It's a bad sign when your closer is giving up more hits and walks per inning than the rest of your staff, but hey, for us, it's a way of life.

Except for you, giantsrainman. In your world, Benitez throws darts and everyone is always out of position.

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by hairball on May 26, 2007 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Allow me to help here

At least two hits and 1 walk from today that Benitez gave up would have never happened if Frandsen had either fliped Finley grounder to Aurilia or just eat it.

Take these three baserunners away and Benitez's WHIP would just be 1.29. So, what is your point?

by giantsrainman on May 26, 2007 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Allow me to help here

Or, he could have struck someone out. Or, he could have just blown the save and not blamed someone else for it.

Plenty of scenarios in which he doesn't come off as a total douchebag.

Who dat is? That's just Ortmeier's daddy.

by rotorueter on May 26, 2007 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Allow me to help here

Seriously man....just shut the F up. Enough with this well if Frandsen wouldn't of had the error. It's called pitching through the error. Something our fat-assed closer never picked up. He's a pro, and we expect him to act like a pro at all times. No blaming your teammates for their fielding woes. No blaming your teammates for their lack of offensive production. DO YOUR JOB QUIETLY FOR ONCE AND GET THE FUCK OFF THE MOUND.

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by PacBellBoozer on May 26, 2007 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Allow me to help here

Blaming Frandsen - How very Benitez-esque of you.

by mxmob33 on May 26, 2007 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: No freaking way

So nice to see that you got out of bed early to defend your boy. I'm sure our closer, "who did his job", slept like a baby last night.

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by PacBellBoozer on May 26, 2007 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Armando Did Do His Job Last Night!

The guy who messed up was Frandsen. He could have gotten Finley if he had feed it to Aurilia rather then trying to make the throw himself while running towards Left Field. To top this off, the next ground ball to Aurilia would have been a DP if Frandsen had just eaten the previous ball rather then throw it into the dugout allowing Finley to advance to second. Franden had two chances to end the inning and he blew both by not feeding Aurilia and then by throwing the ball away and not keeping Finley in double play position.

I want to know why Durham was removed from the game and why Vizquel wasn't brought in to play defense in the 8th and 9th. Durham and Vizquel would have made that play on Finley's grounder look like child's play. Frandsen and Aurila just are not the right guys to play middle infield defense at the end of a close game.

by giantsrainman on May 26, 2007 6:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Armando Did Do His Job Last Night!

You make a good point. Where was Dreamy?

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by Lyle on May 26, 2007 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Armando Did Do His Job Last Night!

Chances are that Boch was playing by the "if you've got a day off, it's a day off no matter what" theme. Can't say that I blame him either. If there's one thing that Flipper did that pissed me off something fierce it was give someone a day off, just to see them being brought in late in the game and forced to work some magic.

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by PacBellBoozer on May 26, 2007 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Armando Did Do His Job Last Night!

The guy who messed was Frandsen? Bullshit.

It was 3-2 AFTER the seventh. The game shouldn't have been tied by the ninth to begin with. Who knows how things would have gone if that had been the case in the first place.

Second, and more importantly, Frandsen had an off-balanced rushed throw on the play because it was a close play. And the throw wasn't even an inch wide, it was just short. We could go for hours about how Klesko should have picked it.

But even if he picked it there was no guarantee the call would have been out.

For crying out loud, it was a tough play. But THEN! even with a runner on, the game was STILL tied and Mando gave up a couple of solid hits to put two runs in. Not just the one run. A second one for good measure!

A lot of that was bad luck. But Benitez COULD have gotten out of that inning with a tied game in hand even with the bad throw/bad pick on the difficult play to second.

Frandsen's fault? I don't buy it. He had a little to do with it, but no more than any of Klesko, the eighth inning bullpen, or Armando.

Yeah, it was a team effort.

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by howtheyscored on May 26, 2007 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

FWIW

The version at the Giants official site is the more familiar version:

"I did my job; I got three ground balls," Benitez said, referring to the first three Rockies batters he faced in the ninth. "It happens. We had opportunities to win the game; how many times we got somebody on base and nobody moved [up] a base? Somebody has to pay. Today, it's me."

No, ya jerk, it's Cain that paid, and you can't claim to be a victim of circumstances when you give up 3 hits and a walk.

When will we be rid of this play-only-for-myself asshole?

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by hairball on May 26, 2007 7:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: FWIW

Two of the hits (and the intential walk) would have never happened if Frandsen had just held on to Finley's ground ball rather then throw it away. Traverez's grounder whould have ended the inning with a doubleplay if Finley was still at firstbase. Even the Finley hit could have been turned to an out if Frandsen would have just fliped to Aurilia (like a double play) rather then try to throw to first while running towards left field.

Bottom line, Benitez did his job but Frandsen didn't do his.

by giantsrainman on May 26, 2007 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: FWIW

This game was not lost by Frandsen alone. A lot of players blew this one, and that still applies if I only think of the ninth inning.

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by howtheyscored on May 26, 2007 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: FWIW

The grounder from Tavares would not have been a double play in any circumstance. We were lucky to get one out on that play, no way two would have been turned. So now you have Willie on first, two-down. Of course second is as good as stolen and he scores on the Matsui single, the rest of the inning goes down the same. So how is everything Fransden's fault. He took the only shot their was to make the out, if he flips it to Aurilia Finley beats it out.

Armando sucks and magnifies it by being a shit-head.

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by W8ingForATitle on May 26, 2007 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you

I'm glad somebody called BS on giantsrainman's ridiculous assertion that Tavares's ball would've been a DP. No freaking way! First of all, Tavares is one of the fastest players in MLB and very rarely hits into DP's. Second, he was out by HALF A STEP on that ball as it was (without having to get the force at 2nd first), and after Aurilia only bobbled the ball for a split second. Third, If Frandsen had eaten the ball and not thrown to first, Finley would've just stolen 2nd like everybody else was doing off Benitez, so he would've STILL been on 2nd. Fourth, even if Tavares hit the ball before Finley had a chance to steal, it would've only been a force at 2bd due to Tavares's speed, and then HE would've stolen 2nd and been in scoring position for Matsui's RBI single anyway.

by English Professor on May 26, 2007 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Talking about BS!

The only reason the Traveris grounder was a close play was the Aurilia was at normal depth (deeper) and normal distance (further away) from 2B. With Finley at first Aurilia would have been at doubelplay depth and distance (slallower and closer) and it would have been an easy doubleplay.

by giantsrainman on May 26, 2007 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: FWIW

it wouldn't have been a DP because Aurilia didn't field it cleanly. If Omar was playing short there I think it would have been two, even as fast as Taveras is.

Armando Benitez countdown to 300 saves: 289 Armando says: "It's Kevin Frandsen's fault I gave up RBI hits to Kaz Matsui and Matt Holliday"

by rxmeister on May 26, 2007 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: FWIW

Hennessey and Taschner had already blown Cain's win way before Benitez ever entered the Game. Benitez did pay Frandsen's twin mistakes in that he took the loss and it was his ERA and WHIP that suffered because of Frandsen's twin mistakes.

Benitez and Cain both paid for the offense's failures in that Cain lost a win when these failures were combined with Hennessey & Taschner's failures in the 7th & 8th and Benitez took a loss when these offensive failures were combined with Frandsen's defensive failures in the 9th.

by giantsrainman on May 26, 2007 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Mando's big mouth

I don't think the problem is whose fault it is, rainman, I think the problem is Benitez blaming teammates and not stepping up and being a man. If he wanted to take the no fault rule he could have just said he made good pitches and had tough luck, he didn't have to talk about errors and failure to score runs. His act is getting tired, and I think teammates are sick of being blamed in the media, whether Armando is right or not. By the way, I don't agree that they had a play on Finley, Frandsen should have just eaten the ball. And the Taveras ball was bobbled by Aurilia so they couldn't have gotten a double play. The thing I completely DO agree with you is that Aurilia has to be taken out for defense when the Giants have the lead late. When he plays third or short, Feliz and Vizquel have to come into the game when the Giants are ahead. I don't know if Bochy doesn't want to hurt his feelings or what, but leaving him in there is not smart. It hasn't burned them yet, but it will. As for Frandsen, he's not supposed to be such a big step down defensively, so I had no problems with the double switch. If he turns out to be a poor defensive player, then he has no value to this team. What's the point of having a utility man who can't field?? It's not like he's a big time hitter. In short, Armando wasn't terrible, he had bad luck, and this was what he should have said after the game.

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by rxmeister on May 26, 2007 8:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Mando's big mouth

Well put, rx. In my opinion, Armando pitched well, there was plenty of blame to spread around, and most of what he said was true. And he's still a brutally awful teammate for saying it.

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by Pants Man on May 26, 2007 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Mando's big mouth

Word

by NearestNorwich on May 26, 2007 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay

I can agree with that assessment too.

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by hairball on May 26, 2007 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Mando's big mouth

Not the first time this turd has said it though. I would of thought he would of learned something from "I did my job"-gate Version 1.0.

Guess not.

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by PacBellBoozer on May 26, 2007 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: No freaking way:

A good closer will still only convert about 80% of his saves. Whose fault is it? Who cares? The Rockies beat the Giants. It's going to happen. But blaming the loss of the game on the defense (again) is just being a bad teammate and I think that's what most of us object to.

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by orangeandblackattack on May 26, 2007 10:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

To quote NearestNorwich

"Word"

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by hairball on May 26, 2007 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: No freaking way: "I'm doing my job"

Now that I've cooled down a little bit, I do agree with everyone in this thread who's saying that he's right but he's a terrible teammate for saying it.

And there's no way you can blame Frandsen... I think he should have eaten the ball, but to say he should have flipped it to Aurilia to get the out? He's a rookie, this is going to be a close play no matter what happens and he had to go a long way to even get to the ball. How the hell is he supposed to think "Oh man, I should flip the ball to the shortstop!" That's something a 10 year vet might think of, but I wouldn't expect Frandsen to have the instincts of a 10 year vet.

And the fact still remains that Benitez had two outs and it took him four more batters to get the third one. That seems like a trend with this pitching staff and I'm kind of sick of it. GET THE THIRD OUT.

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by jponry on May 26, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: No freaking way: "I'm doing my job"

Oh, and if I'm going to blame anyone for last night, I'm blaming Taschner for throwing a belt-high fastball on an 0-2 count to Hawpe.

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by jponry on May 26, 2007 10:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: No freaking way: "I'm doing my job"

It's true that there is plenty of blame for this one: the offense for squandering so many opportunities, Hennessey and Taschner for allowing the tying run, Frandsen for the error, Benitez for letting in the winning runs. So why does Benitez tick some of us off the most?

The thing about a team game like baseball is that sometimes a player screws up. Sometimes, a teammate can pick that guy up by making a big play. A hitter can get the two-out RBI after the guy in front of him fails to get it done. If you're going to be a successful team, that's going to happen many times over the course of a season.

Maybe I'm suffering from selective memory, but I can't think of a single incident where Benitez picked up a teammate who committed an error behind him. Certainly, none of his 9 saves this year have required him to overcome anything like that.

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by EliminateMe on May 26, 2007 12:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: No freaking way: "I'm doing my job"

The only thing Mando can pickup is a few of these...

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by PacBellBoozer on May 26, 2007 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"I'm doing my job" -Mando

When Benitez comes into pitch, you never know what's going to happen. But chances are more likely than not, a baserunner will get into scoring position.

by Rude thoughtless little pig on May 26, 2007 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs