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Oh, this is not good.

From RotoWorld.com

Ryan Klesko is expected to miss the next week with a strained muscle in his left side.
A healthy Klesko is the Giants' best option as a first baseman against right-handers, but it's anyone's guess whether he'll be 100 percent at any point during the season. As a result, Rich Aurilia seems like a safe bet to get at least 400 and maybe 500 at-bats.

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Re: Oh, this is not good.
I just hope it's not the dreaded oblique injury.  As improbable as it might be, I'm still holding out hope for Klesko to add some power to the lineup.  But if he's ineffective, well, at least he's been a low-risk/high-reward player all along and not necessarily make-or-break.

by scotterduder on Mar 7, 2007 6:54 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Oh, this is not good.
And Pedro Feliz is back on the fast track to 600...

Wonderful. So what, realistically, has to happen to this infield for Feliz to rack up 600 ABs? I mean, Murphy's law here, but it already doesn't seem all that far off to me with just Klesko gone.

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by howtheyscored on Mar 7, 2007 6:56 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Oh, this is not good.
Not to say that Klesko is definitely gone. Obviously there's no way of knowing how healthy he'll be over the whole year, or even in the next few weeks, but assuming he's as limited as he could be (you know, assuming the worst)...
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by howtheyscored on Mar 7, 2007 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Oh, this is not good.
For Feliz to rack up 600 ABs, he would have to hit 285 with an OBP of 325. If Feliz hits 250 and Frandsen hits 310, Feliz gets 180 ABs and Frandsen gets 450

by allfrank on Mar 7, 2007 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Oh, this is not good.
Whoa now. Is that .285/.325 meant as a projection for Frandsen? As in, Frandsen will hit that, so Feliz will have to hit better than that? (again, in the hypothetical situation that Klesko busts for lack of a better health)

I don't know. I like Frandsen as much as the next guy, but I don't see him hitting .285/.325, especially with enough power to hold off a Feliz hitting anywhere in the .260-.270/.300 range.

But that's not what I was asking to begin with. Question was: What has to happen to this team for Feliz to rack up 600 ABs (let's say 580-620, for some leeway)? I didn't ask "why won't Feliz be starting every day this year" because, yeah, we've been over that question.

Now, mine is a bit of a more pointless question I know, but the idea of Klesko hurt got me thinking that we're not as far off as we might have thought from Feliz starting every day, and I want to know what those circumstances are.

So: I'm wondering this. Say, Klesko busts. That leaves Aurilia and Sweeney at first, no (and Aurilia can play third, so that works out a bit, but how well does that platoon work anyway... I don't know)? And, assuming DL, does Niekro get a callup and would it even matter (he played third, and he's got a little power, so he's kind of like the beta version for Klesko... even so, I don't see Niek taking ABs from Feliz)? Then, there's utility Frandsen. He can't cover Feliz every day because he's got Durham and Vizquel to spell. And since Feliz plays short and second, too, well he could get middle IF ABs hypothetically as well. But if Frandsen's here, how well does he have to play to keep PF on the bench?

I'm just wondering here. Even some of our optimistic crew have Feliz getting well over 500 ABs with a healthy Klesko, so how far do we have to dig for that to get in the 580-620 range?

Yeah, it's a hypothetical, but we know the state of our infield (Klesko and Durham = hope they stay off the DL, Sweeney is just there, Vizquel can't play every day - or rather, really really shouldn't - and Aurilia has to magically not regress to the serious multi-year slump he maybe came out of last year), so I just want to know about the possibility.

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by howtheyscored on Mar 7, 2007 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Oh, this is not good.
Almost (almost, as in not totally) irrespective of what Aurelia / Klesko do, for Feliz to get 600 ABs, he's going to have to produce.  If he is hitting 255 he's going to be playing twice a week.  Of course, his '06 season was Eve White/Eve Black, 275 BA first half, 200 second half.  
  If he hits 280, he'll get 550 - 600 ABs.  270 and he'll get 450 - 500. If he hits 260, he'll get 350 - 400 ABs.
  There are a few reasons for this:  last year, there were no options.  Feliz was the guy, come hell or high water (which, as we all know, both came).  This year there are not one, but two options:  Aurelia and Frandsen.  Bochy has demonstrated he is a) not afraid to play young guys (Green, Barfield) and, while he will go with a veteran and give hbim time to find his stroke, he's not afraid of cutting him loose (V Castilla, last year).

by allfrank on Mar 8, 2007 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Oh, this is not good.
I don't think it is true that if Pedro hits .250 and Kevin .310 that Pedro will get only 180 at bats and Kevin 450.  For starters (no pun intended) it will take the Giants a while to figure out that Pedro isn't going to improve and that Kevin will hit that well.

On the other hand, I would prefer Pedro at .250/.310/.485/.795 to Kevin at .310/.350/.420/.770 because Pedro is by far the better fielder at the hot corner.

The problem, of course, is that Pedro isn't likely to put up an OPS that good if he hits only .250 -- and Kevin isn't likely to hit .310 in 450 at bats.

by sharksrog on Mar 9, 2007 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Oh, this is not good.
Looks like the young guys that the Giants signed in the off season are starting to breakdown already...
With Barry back, what could go wrong?

by Rusty the Mechanical Man on Mar 7, 2007 9:27 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Oh, this is not good.
I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the Kleskos.
You're nobody 'til everybody in
this town thinks you're a bastard - Elvis Costello

by EliminateMe on Mar 8, 2007 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

A rib separation?
It's always tough when a happy couple gets divorced.

by Moggeee on Mar 8, 2007 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Oh, this is not good.
Roberts fouled a ball off his foot and had to leave the game.
Fool me seven times, shame on you. Fool me eight or more times, shame on me.

by Bhaakon on Mar 8, 2007 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Oh, this is not good.
Interestingly, sfgiants.com's initial report indicated Klesko injured himself during batting practice (while fielding) BEFORE Sunday's game, when he was 2 for 3 with a double.

So, hopefully, the injury isn't too bad, and the time off is a precaution.

by BruteSentiment on Mar 8, 2007 11:23 AM PST reply actions  

Re: Oh, this is not good.
Meanwhile, in a dark corner of the clubhouse, Lance Niekro cackles over his voodoo doll.
You're nobody 'til everybody in
this town thinks you're a bastard - Elvis Costello

by EliminateMe on Mar 8, 2007 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

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