Community Projection: Noah Lowry
The Noah Lowry progression:
Season 1: Change-up of the gods. Well-placed fastball. Solid strikeout rate.
Season 2: Change-up of the mostly impressive mortals, much-improved curveball. Solid strikeout rate.
Season 3: Mediocre fastball, change, and curve. Control didn't improve. Low strikeout rate.
Season 4: Can he build on what came before? Or does he switch time slots and add a baby to the cast?
Thinking about a future rotation of Zito, Cain, Lincecum, and Lowry is a favorite daydream of mine, but the catch is that Lowry needs to be the '04 or '05 version. The other catch is that Zito's declining K/BB can't catch up with him. The other other catch is that no one can get hurt. But it's my daydream, damnit, and in this daydream Lowry regains that vicious change and pairs it with some improved control to become an above-average and cheap starter for years to come.
In order to share the daydream, though, you have to be willing to blame everything on injury. The oblique made him do it! The oblique made him do it! I'm naturally skeptical about the injury excuse. Matt Morris had cracked ribs? Ouch, indeed. That still doesn't explain the subpar fastball and fifteen-curves-in-a-row strategy he featured before the injury. But Lowry's strikeout rate dropped so precipitously that there really isn't much other than injury or sloppy mechanics to blame it on. I'm not a mechanics expert, so I'll have to defer to those who are. So I'll blame the injury, and I generally evaluate injuries something like this:
Declining performance + Oblique tweak = Good? Wait, no. But not automatically bad, either.
Noah Lowry
ERA: 3.89
IP: 196
K: 148
BB: 61
HR Allowed: 26
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Re: Community Projection: Noah Lowry
Starter 4 Noah Lowry:
BP sees 150 Innings with 4.56/1.41 ERA/WHIP
Rainman sees 192 Innings with 3.89/1.33 ERA/WHIP
BP further sees 100/54/19 SO/BB/HR
Rainman further sees 128/64/21 SO/BB/HR
Dartboard projection
IP: 185
K: 119
BB: 64
HR Allowed: 22
* I could easily imagine his ERA being anywhere between 3.30 and 5.50
A Wealth of Distractions
This year, though, he has plenty of competition for those love calls from newcomer Barry Zito, who will probably bring his own contingent of vocal female well wishers.
Noah's just going to have to learn to share the pie. Uhh, pies.
Noah Lowry
IP: 160
ERA: 4.28
K: 113
BB: 57
H: 159
Lowry's ZiPS
IP: 182
ERA: 4.15
K: 130
BB: 65
H: 177
David's guess
IP: 180
ERA: 4.60
K: 110
BB: 50
H: 220
by David A. Arnott on Feb 26, 2007 1:31 PM PST reply actions
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by E Ticket on Feb 26, 2007 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
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by nostocksjustbonds on Feb 26, 2007 1:31 PM PST reply actions
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Lowry seemed to come out of nowhere, so I'm not completely convinced that his first year and a half wasn't a little fluky. But I think he can get back nearly to that level.
ERA: 4.10
IP: 202
K: 153
BB: 69
HR Allowed: 22
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Sure I'm optimistic about Morris and Cain and whoever happens to be our fifth starter, but I believe in Noah whole-heartedly. Not only did he pitch through an injury last season, but his numbers were also a bit deceptive. I don't know how many times I watched him pitch a fantastic game with the exception of one god-awful inning. And the blow-up usually happened right around the 100-pitch mark.
Lowry just had a terrible time pitching out of trouble in the 6th and 7th innings last year. Also, in an equally uncanny number of times last year, Lowry would leave an inning with a lead and one or two outs with runners on first and second and the reliever would come in and not only allow the runners to score (upping his ERA), but would blow the lead, costing Lowry the eventual win or saddling him with the loss.
Of course I have no statistics backing this up, it's just observations on what I saw last year. But Lowry is my favorite pitcher in the rotation and I always made sure to catch the game when he was on the mound. I'm confident he's going to be solid.
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Actually, no. Lowry was excellent in the 90-120 pitch range. He was at between 30 and 60 pitches. Click here and scroll to the bottom.
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Oops. He was at his worst between...
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by nostocksjustbonds on Feb 26, 2007 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
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Not that this has anything to do with Noah
He will always be a Cardinal the same way Cepeda was always a Giant.
He minces around on the mound like an un-employed opera singer when things are not going his way.
His curveball ain't that great, yet he is beyond obsessed with it--subscribing to the theory that if at first you don't succeed, keep doing the same fucking thing over and over again until somebody evenually shoots you. Morris is to curveballs what the McCoven are to Thighler Jokes. You can't stand 'em after the 22nd in a row. At least with Thighler Jokes you can mix in a few whacks at Blowmeatiz and his gravy drenched Custard Burritos.
My prediction for Noah when he loads his ark when they break camp and come north for the regular season.
9 Lap Dancers, 8 Milk Maids, 7 Ugly Ducks, 6 Aflac Geese, 5 Lords of the Rings,4 Parrots, 3 Goddamn French Hens, 2 freekin turtle doves, and a Partridge Family DVD.
I have no idea what he'll do on the days he pitches.
by E Ticket on Feb 26, 2007 2:13 PM PST reply actions
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by nostocksjustbonds on Feb 26, 2007 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
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After his typical outstanding August, he went into September with an ERA of 3.75. After his first two starts in September (both poor) it rose to 4.19. Still a respectable number for all he went through. But what really screwed him was his outing in Colorado, when he gave up 9 runs in 1.1 innings, skyrocketing his era to 4.7, and it finished up at 4.74.
If there are no more injuries or late season collapse, i can see Lowry be anywhere between 3.6 and 4.2 era.
by April3rdLifeBegins on Feb 26, 2007 2:14 PM PST reply actions
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Yeah, I'm going to really miss Alou this year.
His departure is worth at least 10 additional wins this year. It would have been worth 40 more if the Giants had hired Ditka.
by E Ticket on Feb 26, 2007 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
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You win a Custard Cup
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True for him.
For me? Not so much. Except when the Giants shit the bed.
by E Ticket on Feb 26, 2007 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Dark Sunglasses are not enough
Whenever Benitez is warming up, I snap that bag open like the courtesy clerk on Register 3.
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by E Ticket on Feb 28, 2007 7:51 AM PST up reply actions
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by E Ticket on Feb 26, 2007 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
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All of which I take to be vaguely encouraging.
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by Cynema the Band on Feb 26, 2007 3:07 PM PST reply actions
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IP: 186
K: 130
BB: 58
HRA: 23
I'm hoping last year was some combo of injury issues and the league adjusting to his stuff. We'll see soon enough.
August stats
ERA: 1.12
IP: 38
K: 27
BB: 6
HRA: 2
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IP: 181
K: 122
BB: 55
HR Allowed: 23
Grant, I think that floor is going to be messy again this year. I actually hope Noah does slightly better in the first half of the year, making him a tradeable commodity in July; he can give up most of those homers as a Met.
by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Feb 26, 2007 4:02 PM PST reply actions
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K: 125
BB: 67
I.T. is teh worst!
by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Feb 27, 2007 6:43 AM PST up reply actions
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by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Feb 27, 2007 6:43 AM PST up reply actions
Sometimes a guy just
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IP: 196
K: 152
BB: 76
HR: 21
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ERA: 4.22
K: 139
BB: 85
HR: 17
Lowry is a solid, inexpensive, fourth starter.
He's homegrown, left handed, and wears his cap extremely low.
For "cool points" alone- keep him.
Lowry is Virtually Untouchable
No way he's a candidate for the trading block, even with another up-and-down year.
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I like to keep young, winning southpaws
Our lesser brother Brian Sabean will have to cast the deciding vote.
;-)
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by E Ticket on Feb 27, 2007 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Lowry would do well to be Rueter's equal
Just that GMs are reluctant to trade young lefties who have proven they can win, while also demonstrating they do not have corn flakes (Estes) between their ears.
Stable, winning southpaws are rare.
BTW -- Rueter's act may never be matched by Lowry or Zito. Kirk is just the winningest lefty in San Francisco history...
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by nick @ McCovey Chronicles on Feb 26, 2007 5:36 PM PST reply actions
pessimistic proj.
IP=184
ERA=4.08
K=136
BB=63
HR=20
W-L= 11-9
number of times referred to on national television (sportscenter included)=3*
number of times meriting mention on national television=57#
*: increases to 7,694 if he begins throwing BP to Bonds
#: 22 of which involve Lowry base hits
by nick @ McCovey Chronicles on Feb 26, 2007 5:43 PM PST reply actions
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IP: 188
K: 142
BB: 70
HR Allowed: 21

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