State of the Mando
Pitchers and catchers reported yesterday, which is always fantastic news. The annual ceremony was held, where they pull Armando Benitez out of a burrow and check to see if his shadow is anywhere near the Giants' spring training facility. If they see it, that's supposed to mean six more months of bullpen suck.
Henry Schulman starts off a recent State of the Mando article with this:
I've given up trying to forecast bullpens, as evidenced by my lack of effort in all things relief for the NL West preview posts. It just makes a person look too stupid when they attempt to predict how effective a bullpen is going to be. Brendan Donnelly came out of the same mist as Manny Aybar, but only one became a dominant reliever. We could look up in August and have Mitch Wylie leading the team in saves. We could look up in August and see every reliever who didn't enter the season with major league experience in the middle of a 5.00 ERA season.
Even with that concession, there is a whole bunch to be said about past results. With Benitez, it just isn't clear which past results to go with. Should we hope for the Benitez that hadn't really ever had a bad season before he came to the Giants? Or is the mopey tub of save-blowing goo from the past two years who we should expect? I've constantly defended Benitez - this post, for example, didn't exactly hold up well - but eventually gave up on him last season. When the Marlins were offering nude photos of Wayne Huizenga for Benitez and several million dollars, I was hoping the Giants would jump on the offer.
The spring optimism has gotten to me, though, and I'm all for giving Benitez one more chance. In the Chronicle article, Brian Sabean says the right things regarding Benitez:
Benitez will not be handed the job."He's going to have to do it. Obviously in spring training, we give the veterans, including the closer, the benefit of the doubt over younger players, but we're going to want to see more overall, and hopefully the pitcher we saw in Florida, (which was) the reason we signed him."
Comment starter: Done with Benitez? One more shot? Cast him in a remake of Disorderlies? What to do, what to do?
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by Skaldheim on Feb 15, 2007 2:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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By the way, between the vision of nude pics of Wayne Huizinga and Mando dry humpin' a trainer's table, I think I need to tkae a shower.
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by PacBellBoozer on Feb 15, 2007 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Clothing MULTIPLE generations
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by E Ticket on Feb 15, 2007 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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- He is obviously out of shape, doesn't pitch well at all in spring training and reinjures himself. Giants DL him and its 2005/2006 deja vu all over again.
- He is obviously out of shape, works hard to get back into shape and nearly makes it, but pitches poorly in spring training. However, he is healthy. Wilson gets the closer's gig. Giants trade Mando. We party like crazy.
- He is obviously out of shape, but gets into shape. He pitches reasonably well in spring training, but doesn't have that great stuff he had in Florida. he is healthy. Wilson gets the closer's gig. Giants trade him. We party like crazy.
- He is obviously out of shape, but gets into shape. He pitches reasonably well in spring training, but doesn't have that great stuff like he had in Florida. However, he is healthy. Mando gets the closer's gig because he is a "veteran." I pull my remaining hairs out.
- He is obviously out of shape, but gets into shape. He pitches lights out in spring training, winning the closer's job as the team heads north. He is the Mando of 2004.
by nostocksjustbonds on Feb 15, 2007 2:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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6. He is obviously out of shape, pitches poorly, yet gets the closer job anyway, because he has veteran savvy. NSJB's remaining hair goes the way of the dodo.
this town thinks you're a bastard - Elvis Costello
by EliminateMe on Feb 15, 2007 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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- He is obviously out of shape, pitches poorly, yet gets the closer job anyway, because he has veteran savvy. However, E crushes Mando's head with a cement-filled bobblehead from the upperdeck on Opening Day, just as Mando leaves the dugout and starts his waddle out to the pen. Brian Wilson closes out the game to earn the first of 49 saves.
- He is obviously out of shape, pitches poorly, yet gets the closer job anyway, because he has veteran savvy. However Mando is struck by 128 rounds of various sniper ammunition from mulitple sources around McCovey Cove and the left field bleachers as well as Section 311, just as he leaves the dugout and starts his waddle out to the pen. Brian Wilson closes out the game to earn the first of 59 saves.
- He is obviously out of shape, pitches poorly, yet gets the closer job anyway, because he has veteran savvy. Howver, Mando does not realize that a nuclear device has been taped to his more than ample ass and it explodes just as he leaves the dugout and starts his waddle out to the pen. Brian Wilson closes out the game to earn the first of 84 saves.
- He is obviously out of shape, pitches poorly, yet gets the closer job anyway, because he has veteran savvy. Howver, Mando does not realize that a nuclear device, along with Brian Sabaen and Edgardo Alfonso and AJ Piersyshitki have been taped to his more than ample ass and it explodes just as he leaves the dugout and starts his waddle out to the pen. Brian Wilson closes out the game to earn the first of 106 saves. Everyone at PacBell wearing one of Natto's Mandowear shirts gets a complimentary pizza and beer to commerate the moment.
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by Azmanz on Feb 15, 2007 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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After said explosion, can we please blame Iran and invade them too?
by PacBellBoozer on Feb 15, 2007 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice thought, but...
by Mayor of 311 on Feb 15, 2007 7:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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You know, while our birds are in the air, maybe we can go after that Chavez guy in South America. Now where is he from again?
Damn, if I had only payed attention when proudly serving in the Texas Air National Guard, I reckon I'd know where half of these countries are on that there pretty globe on my desk.
by PacBellBoozer on Feb 15, 2007 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Kid Fresh on Feb 15, 2007 3:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by PacBellBoozer on Feb 15, 2007 3:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just one question
by Mayor of 311 on Feb 15, 2007 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by PacBellBoozer on Feb 15, 2007 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When Mando is pitching..

by WalrusMan on Feb 15, 2007 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by E Ticket on Feb 15, 2007 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mando eh?
by WalrusMan on Feb 15, 2007 3:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Done with Mando
by W8ingForATitle on Feb 15, 2007 3:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by nostocksjustbonds on Feb 15, 2007 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Evan on Feb 15, 2007 3:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Wow, that's a tough interview.
I'm Officially Nauseated.
State of the Mando sounds, and probably smells, very much like State of the Tyler Walker.
by Rusty the Mechanical Man on Feb 15, 2007 4:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by nostocksjustbonds on Feb 15, 2007 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by E Ticket on Feb 15, 2007 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He Is Saying All the Right Things
To trade or dump Benitez at a time when value is low and salary high while his teammates want him on the team and he can still pitch does not make a lot of sense. If he can close and would like to be traded then SF should consider accomodating the big fella and getting value in return.
by wilriv21 on Feb 15, 2007 4:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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In any event, I'd rather have a guy who says the wrong thing and produces good results on the baseball diamond, than a nice guy who sucks. right now, Mando is a wrong thing sayer who sucks. he should work on changing the sucking part more than the talking part.
by nostocksjustbonds on Feb 15, 2007 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Doing his job
"The last couple of years, I really couldn't do my job"
"I was in a situation where everyone expected to see Armando Benitez come into the game and do my job, get them 1-2-3. It's very hard when you can't do anything."
"That's what people expect to see. ... And what do they see? I come in and don't do the job. If I pay the ticket and don't see my guy do the job, I'll boo. I'll be mad at him."
And, just in case you thought he'd gotten over being an arrogant jerk:
this town thinks you're a bastard - Elvis Costello
by EliminateMe on Feb 15, 2007 4:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
But he did his job.
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FONZIE.
by tk on Feb 15, 2007 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Mayor of 311 on Feb 15, 2007 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is my favorite thread since
by E Ticket on Feb 15, 2007 4:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
the greatest thing ever!
by senorvegas on Feb 15, 2007 5:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Can you imagine? Mando could lose 5 lbs. in order to lose 5 lbs.
Trade him now.
Trade him before dinner.
Trade him while someone still believes this junk he is blabbering.
He will hurt himself before the season starts.
by Rusty the Mechanical Man on Feb 15, 2007 5:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if we
by Rusty the Mechanical Man on Feb 15, 2007 5:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm..

You know I should not be the one who does these photoshop things. I suck.
by WalrusMan on Feb 15, 2007 6:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Seriously, this Closer cannot even run wind sprints with the team.
by Rusty the Mechanical Man on Feb 15, 2007 6:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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