Why you keep Lincecanium

by zenbitz on Dec 5, 2007 10:16 AM PST

OK, I decided there weren't enough Diaries on this issue, so I made my own.

It makes no sense for the Giants to trade either Lincecum or Cain (barring some ridiculous deal).

a) any such deal is highly unlikely to turn SF into a 2008 or even 2009 contender

b) Their trade value will likely RISE in 2008 if they put up solid numbers in MLB (even on a poor team)

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Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

Because the PR staff has already plastered them all over this seasons' embarcadero banners and season tickets.

Or maybe they did the smart thing and just put in a bunch of shots of the park.

Fool me seven times, shame on you. Fool me eight or more times, shame on me.

by Bhaakon on Dec 5, 2007 10:18 AM PST reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

but what if the Blue Jays want the park too?

by boonitez on Dec 5, 2007 10:29 AM PST reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

I've been to the Skydome (Rogers Park, whatever the hell it's called...). They SHOULD ask for our park!

I really like that their beer was cheaper, though.

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Dec 5, 2007 10:33 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

Trading parks would add power to our line up.

by Scottsdale on Dec 5, 2007 11:01 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

Please don't make me watch another game at that stadium. It's not that it's that BAD, it's just that ATT is SO frickin' good.

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Dec 5, 2007 11:17 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

I'm really not intending to be the diary police, but couldn't this have been said in another diary?

Giant Expectations

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 5, 2007 10:42 AM PST reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

To be fair the other Diaries and Main Page Stories all have like 300 comments each and nobody would see this if it was posted anywhere else.

Dave Righetti: You Know You Want It. / Also, my blog. For writers.

by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2007 11:17 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

Hmmm... that reads a lot more passive aggressively than I meant it to. Just to be clear, I'm being neither serious nor mean. Just having a poke.

Dave Righetti: You Know You Want It. / Also, my blog. For writers.

by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2007 11:18 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

IMHO, which is probably unfair, but I think at this current point in time, with trade rumors flying everywhere, new diaries should be more for breaking news or something different that's being said, not someone's opinion on old news that's being discussed in 10 other diaries. Am I in the wrong here?

Giant Expectations

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 5, 2007 11:44 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

I don't think you're wrong at all. In addition to preventing diaries from flying open like a ream of loose paper on a windy day, keeping diaries cohesive/self-contained/un-redundant helps prevent duplicate posts.

The problem wit having 2345465762542455778 diaries that are discussing the same general topic is that some posters/commenters/readers feel like they have to post the same post on ALL of the threads to be heard (i.e. the One Flap Down comment about Will Carrol's chat tidbits). Now not only are we having diaries that are essentially discussing the same thing, we have the same comment being posted across each of those diaries.

by sfgfan on Dec 5, 2007 11:50 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

I no, I was on your side. I guess my unintentional passive agressiveness was also unclear.

Dave Righetti: You Know You Want It. / Also, my blog. For writers.

by howtheyscored on Dec 5, 2007 11:56 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

i think you keep him until all the fans learn to spell his name correctly

that should be in about 10 years

by bacci40 on Dec 5, 2007 11:12 AM PST reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

Lincecainium = Lincecum and/or Cain

by zenbitz on Dec 5, 2007 1:23 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

Some quotes from Will Carrol's chat at BP:

Dylan (SF): I've seen you write that Tim Lincecum is a "freak" before. I think it mainly refers to the fact that his mechanics are so odd that his longevity and chances of injury are completely unpredictable. Does this mean that you would trade him to the Jays straight up for Alex Rios? To me, the Jays have to add a reasonably talented pitcher to the equation.

Will Carroll: No, he's just a straight freak.

There is no single pitcher that I would trade straight up for Lincecum. There are very, very few players that I would take straight up for him and the ones I would are guys like Cabrera, Pujols, Reyes ...

... so yes, I like Tim Lincecum and would be willing to say that the Giants should never trade him.

Rob (Oakland): Will, Re: Lincecum - If he's the centerpiece of a trade that could net three postion players (I like Votto, Encarnacion & Hamilton), the Giants would have to deal, right?

Will Carroll: No, especially not for that package. Votto can't force himself into the Reds lineup, Hamilton's had about 200 ABs in four years (tho he's phenomenally talented), and Encarnacion is a good-not-great 3B. You'd trade an ace for that?

John Paul (Manch Vegas, CT): Heyman was just on Mike and the Mad Dog saying the Giants would rather trade Tim Lincecum rather than Matt Cain and are actually considering this Rios for Lincecum swap. On what planet are the Giants brass living, and please tell me the Giants aren't THAT stupid- and I'm not even a Giant fan.

Will Carroll: Heyman has great info -- does anyone have a better mix of writers than SI right now? -- and yeah, I believe that. If Brian Sabean does that deal, well, he deserves the results. Right now the Giants seem to be determined to shed all talent. Compare what the Nats have to what the Giants have right now and tell me which you prefer.

So at least we aren't the only ones who place a high value on Tim. I was worried we were all being homers for a second.

by One Flap Down on Dec 5, 2007 11:22 AM PST reply actions

Re: Why you keep Lincecanium

The correct answer is, You keep Lincecainium because shopping for pitchers on the free agent market is much more expensive than shopping for hitters.

You can sign an Alex Rios clone pretty cheaply (hint: his last name is Jones and he spells his first name funny), but when you try to sign an ace pitcher, you end up with an Albatross more often than not.

by Evan on Dec 5, 2007 12:12 PM PST reply actions