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The slow timiest....

Nothing like a slow timey get-to-know-your-neighbor quiz....

  1. I blame (Felix Rodriguez/Jose Cruz, Jr.) for the Giants' championship drought more than any other player from the past decade.
  2. The Jeff Kent trade was (a premeditated stroke of genius/blind luck).
  3. If I could pick three films from any director to take with me to the gulag after I was arrested for treason, that director would be (name of director) and the films would be (names of films).
  4. My favorite failed Giants pitching prospect was (name of failed pitching prospect).
  5. I think Dan Ortmeier(will/will not) be the starting first baseman when the season starts.
  6. My favorite pie is (name of pie flavor).
#2 pencils only, please.

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Re: The slow timiest....
  1. FR
  2. Pre-med
  3. Don't know
  4. Hmmm, which one, which one.  Kurt Ainsworth
  5. Will be
  6. Coconut creme
Also, we should play reliever bingo.  We have enough.
Schierholtz!

by KTJ on Dec 27, 2007 3:35 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. F-Rod
  2. Somewhere in the middle
  3. Coppola -- Godfather, Apocalypse Now, and The Conversation. Billy Wilder, Kurosawa, and the Coen Bros also received votes.
  4. Jamie Brewington
  5. Will not
  6. Pumpkin. All other answers are incorrect, with the possible exception of banana cream.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 27, 2007 3:35 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
My favorite pie? Oh, Grant...
I luv when the Giants play in SoCal

by Jessica Alba on Dec 27, 2007 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Neither. Brian Sabean for not getting Vlad.
  2. Blind as Stevie Wonder
  3. Cohen Bros. with  Raising Arizona, The Big Lebowski, and Fargo.
  4. Damian Moss
  5. Will
  6. Granny Apple a la mode with vanilla bean ice cream
Idolizing the Nuschler Face since April 8, 1986

by SoFa King Mike on Dec 27, 2007 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Sorry I meant Coen
Idolizing the Nuschler Face since April 8, 1986

by SoFa King Mike on Dec 27, 2007 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix
  2. Pre-Med
  3. Scorsese. Goodfellas, Gangs of New York, The Departed.
  4. Jesse Foppert
  5. Will
  6. Key Lime
Praying nightly that the annual Giants horrid FA pickup is avoided this time around.

by Speedforthewin on Dec 27, 2007 3:44 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix
  2. Blind luck (Sabean knows it too).
  3. Michael Mann - Last of the Mohicans, Heat, The Insider
  4. William Van Landingham
  5. Will not
  6. Banana Cream (dirty answer: Salma Hayek)

by otis29 on Dec 27, 2007 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Rodriguez
  2. a premeditated decent trade (because they needed Major League bodies...much like they do now) that turned out better than expected.
  3. Kubrick: Paths of Glory, Clockwork Orange, 2001
3a. (pure entertainment version) George Roy Hill: Butch and Sundance, The Sting, Slap Shot
  1. Paul McClellan (because a friend of mine hit a foul tip off of him in high school before striking out)
  2. will not
  3. banana cream when it's damn all convention, pumpkin when it's just a Tuesday night and pie sounds good
Didn't you used to be Barry Zito?

by VidaWantsYourCar on Dec 27, 2007 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix
  2. A little bit of both
  3. Coppola - Apocalypse Now, Godfather, Godfather II
  4. Osvaldo Fernandez
  5. Will
  6. Apple
"Why you gotta be cardin' my hos?" - Charlie Hayes

by stevieg on Dec 27, 2007 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix Rodriguez
  2. Leaning toward blind luck in retrospect; 3 years ago, premeditated genius
  3. Kevin Smith - Clerks, Mallrats, Dogma
  4. Ainsworth
  5. Will Not. Please Not.
  6. Humble

by WeToddDid on Dec 27, 2007 3:56 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
#1 Felix Rodriguez

#2 The trade was a little of both.  He brought in Jeff Kent but no one could have thought he would blow up like he did.

#3 I'm not really a movie person so I don't really care.

#4 I don't really have a pitching prospect that I was rooting.  I just miss Guisseppe Chiramonte.

#5 Yea he probably will be.

#6 Plain pie crust.  My grandma's is amazing.

Coming to you from the Land of Many Beers

by WalrusMan on Dec 27, 2007 3:56 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Sabean, obv.  Oh, you did say player.  I guess I gotta go with Felix.
  2. (no surprise here) blind dumb luck.
  3. Coen brotheers:  Millers Crossing, Fargo, and Oh Brother Where Art Thou?
  4. Pooka shells Williams
  5. Will not, if my .30-30 has anything to say about it.
  6. I am going to go with my son's choice when they play the pie game at pre school: "Red Spiderman Pie"

by zenbitz on Dec 27, 2007 3:58 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. F-Rod
  2. I now have no other choice than to believe it was complete and total dumb luck.
  3. Wes Anderson: Bottle Rocket, Rushmore, Royal Tennenbaums
  4. Ainsworth
  5. Will not
  6. Cherry

by saveuszito on Dec 27, 2007 3:58 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Feel Rod
  2. Luck
  3. Very intriguing. Some good choices already, but if I am indeed going to the Gulag, I need the Dude, Walter and Donny, even Jesus the pederast and Larry Sellers (he's flunking social studies, Dude).  Coen Bros. Raising AZ, Big Lebowski, Fargo.
  4. Bill Bordley
  5. Will (and will be more productive than any 1B we have had for several years)
  6. Cherry.

by out machine on Dec 27, 2007 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
1.Felix Rodriguez-For never learning a breaking ball....Jose Cruz's drop was more of a boner, but it was only the first round of the playoffs

2.Dumb luck-It has been documented the "key piece" in the deal for the Giants was Tavarez

3.Peter Jackson-The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers and Return of the King

4.Salomon Torres

5.I think he will be platooning with a "proven, savvy vet"

6.Strawberry Rhubarb

by Deputy Dingleberry on Dec 27, 2007 4:11 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Agreed.
  2. Hard to say.  A bit of both.  I think F-Rod was the target, Kent the clever throwin.
  3. Peter Jackson -- for Heavenly Creatures, Dead Alive and (swoon..) Meet the Feebles.
Meet the Feebles is an underrated masterpiece.

It's so good, it hurts.

  1. Keith Foulke
  2. In triple-A.
  3. Agreed.

by wcw on Dec 27, 2007 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Meet the Feebles is awesome. I watched it and Dead Alive before all this Peter Jackson hype started. I miss when he made stupid gross-out movies.
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 28, 2007 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix Rodriguez
  2. If you asked me 5 years ago: premeditated
   If you asked me anytime in the last 5 years:
   blind luck
3. Judd Apatow: 40 Year Old Virgin, Knocked Up,
   Superbad
  1. Jesse Foppert
  2. Will Not (even though I hope he is)
  3. Pumpkin

by KCDrummer82 on Dec 27, 2007 4:14 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Apatow only produced Superbad. It was directed by Greg Mottola. But I like where your head is at. Superbad was the funniest film of 2007 hands down. I even tried to memorize Michael Cera's dance moves in the opening credits.
Another dream come true for the Patrick make-a-Misch foundation

by Dolorous Edd on Dec 27, 2007 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Edgardo Alfonzo
  2. Blind Luck
  3. Kusturica: Do You Remember Dolly Bell, When Father Was Away on Business, Underground.
  4. Will Not (even though I know he will)
  5. Banana Cream

by Idaho Nick on Dec 27, 2007 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Dusty Baker.  For his love affair with Shawon Dunston and his inability to know when to leave a pitcher in and when to pull them.
  2. One lucky premeditated assumption.
  3. Martin Scorsese - Goodfellas, Casino & Taxi Driver
  4. Kurt Ainsworth
  5. Not.
  6. German Chocolate Pie
Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try. - Homer Simpson

by attinger on Dec 27, 2007 4:30 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Sorry, when I read your #1 & #2 I thought of this:

Idolizing the Nuschler Face since April 8, 1986

by SoFa King Mike on Dec 27, 2007 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
And #3
Idolizing the Nuschler Face since April 8, 1986

by SoFa King Mike on Dec 27, 2007 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Rodriguez
  2. Has to be pre-meditated
  3. I was all set to have George Lucas, and take The first two Star Wars along with Raiders of the Lost Ark (because I can cheat like that). But then Deputy Dingleberry (which is quite the funny name, by the way) gave his answer, and now I must steal it. I do need me some Lord of the Rings.
  4. Jerome Williams
  5. Will not.
  6. Cinnamon apple

by cheno on Dec 27, 2007 4:34 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. "Blame" is such a strong word. But I guess Felix deserves it as much as anyone.
  2. Premeditated blind luck.
  3. Steven Soderbergh -- Out of Sight, The Limey and Ocean's 11.
  4. Ryan Jensen
  5. Will not
  6. Key Lime pie
Lon Simmons' adopted dad.

by Kitspool on Dec 27, 2007 4:36 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Replace Ocean's 11 with Sex, Lies, & Videotape, and that's a pretty strong contender for my pick.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 27, 2007 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1.  Felix- "Let's see, I've thrown him 8 straight fastballs, maybe he won't be expecting another one."
  2.  Luck.
  3.  Once upon a time I would have said Woody Allen, then he became a parody of himself.
  4.  Kurt Ainsworth.  The kid could pitch.  No single great out pitch, but one of the most interesting arsenals of good pitches I've seen, plus a ton of savvy.
  5.  Probably not. I'd love to see what would happen if he had the chance, but I'm afraid the result would not be a pretty sight.
  6. Blueberry/Sour Cream @ Marie Callenders.  Second choice: Rhubarb.

by DrBGiantsfan on Dec 27, 2007 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

Miguel Puente
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/P/miguel-puente.shtml

Dude was a Juan Marichal wannabe.  Even had the high leg kick and all the arm angles.  He just wasn't as good.

by DrBGiantsfan on Dec 27, 2007 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Miguel Puente
I was fortunate enough to have dinner with Miguel immediately after his first start, which wasn't a good one.  His second start, though, was a four-hitter against the Mets IIRC.

Miguel WASN'T very good, as the stats you listed clearly showed.  Miguel later hurt his right arm seriously, yet came back to pitch in the Mexican League as a LEFTY.

Miguel is one guy I really wish could have made it.  But there are thousands of guys like him over time.

by sharksrog on Dec 28, 2007 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Failed Pitching Prospect, 2'nd Choice
Wait...is that the Giant you blame most, your favorite movie director, or your third favorite pie?

by tobias on Dec 28, 2007 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Never mind...
Just noticed the subject line...

by tobias on Dec 28, 2007 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Blueberry sour cream at Marie Calendars?  I LOVE that pie!  Haven't had it in years, though.  Good stuff, man!
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Dec 28, 2007 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I used to bake pies at Marie Callenders (El Camino Real, Mountain View). I thought all the sour cream pies were pretty awesome.

by tobias on Dec 28, 2007 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix Rodriguez
  2. blind luck
  3. dunno
  4. kurt ainsworthless
  5. will not
  6. banana cream pie

by bayz on Dec 27, 2007 4:45 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Fuck-Rod
  2. Somewhere in the middle
  3. Tarantino - Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, Resevoir Dogs
  4. Jesse Fopper
  5. Not
  6. Pumpkin
"Branca throws..."

by Takimoto on Dec 27, 2007 4:48 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix Rodriguez
  2. A premeditated stroke of genius
  3. Don't know/care
  4. Kurt Ainsworth (I don't know why. I was actually a bit sad to see him get traded. Can someone explain  why I felt that way?)
  5. Will not
  6. Pecan

by Scottsdale on Dec 27, 2007 4:49 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Kurt Ainsworth (I don't know why. I was actually a bit sad to see him get traded. Can someone explain  why I felt that way?)

Because he was already an above-average starter when he was traded. His arm may or may not have already been toast when the trade went down, but we sure didn't know it yet.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 27, 2007 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I dont think he was ever an above average starter.   Didnt he just have shoulder surgery as well?

by SabeanSupporter on Dec 28, 2007 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Giants' championship drought = F-Rod

The Jeff Kent trade was blind luck... the next day on the radio Sabean was crowing about acquiring Julian Tavarez... Kent was more of a journeyman throw-in.

Kubrick: Dr. Strangelove, The Shining, Clockwork Orange.

William Van Landingham.
Salomon Torres, Shawn Estes, and Mike Remlinger... kinda failures, kinda not. (Yes, I know Shawn Estes won 19 games his rookie year-- but who could imagine the drop-off??)

Dan Ortmeier will not be the starting first baseman when the season starts. Come on, this is a Brian Sabean club, with Bruce Bochee filling in the starting line-ups. It will be Rich Aurilia, or perhaps Tony Clark, if acquired.

My favorite pie is key lime.

Defender of Noah Lowry.

by Kid Fresh on Dec 27, 2007 4:49 PM PST reply actions  

drum roll...
  1. it was my fault. i washed my lucky socks before game 6
  2. blind luck
  3. Sergio Leone - man with no name "trilogy"
  4. Jerome
  5. not
  6. Apple
Hitler's favorite baseball team was the Dodgers. I'm pretty sure.

by UnderRadar on Dec 27, 2007 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix
  2. Genius
  3. Pass for now - wanted spielberg but guess he didn't direct Star Wars IV like I thought he did.
  4. Ainsworth count?
  5. I don't think so, but I want him to be.
  6. Peach, followed closely by cherry
And Boom Goes the Dynamite

by Andy from DC on Dec 27, 2007 4:59 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Dusty Baker
Blind Luck
Clint Eastwood: Unforgiven, A Perfect World, Mystic River
Gaylord Foppert
Will
Rhubarb (underrated -- and don't gimme any of that watered-down strawberry-rhubarb combo crap)
Here's to Kemp, Loney, LaRoche, Hu, and Kershaw not panning out.

by Woody Wins on Dec 27, 2007 4:59 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix "All I got is a Fastball" Rodriguez
  2. Pure,Spotless, Blind Luck
  3. Chris Nolan: Batman Begins, The Prestige, Memento
  4. Jesse Foppert
  5. Will
  6. Lemon Meringue...mmm...pie
My adopted son Matt Downs. Because face it, everybody else was already taken by the time I got here.

by nvsfg on Dec 27, 2007 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I was thinking about Nolan myself, although I think I'd go with Following over Batman Begins.  Dark Knight looks awesome though...
Adopted Giant: Travis Denker. Good?

by scotterduder on Dec 27, 2007 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I'd insert Insomnia into the Nolan ouevre...not a great movie, but a really interesting one. I love the tone set between Pacino (as cop) and Williams (as psycho) that has the cop being very blase about the psycho (much to psycho's frustration), telling him at one point that "you're just my job; if I was a plumber, you'd be a backed up toilet." Very fresh approach.
Didn't you used to be Barry Zito?

by VidaWantsYourCar on Dec 27, 2007 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
It was a tough choice between "Insomnia" and "Memento". "Following" is also an interesting film. That seems to be a constant theme with Nolan, even with a pedestrian film like "Batman Begins".  He seems to add an underlying psychological component to most of his work. It kind of creeps in without the viewer being consciously aware of it.

Bring on The Dark Knight !!

My adopted son Matt Downs. Because face it, everybody else was already taken by the time I got here.

by nvsfg on Dec 27, 2007 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Following is interesting. I couldn't think of a way to describe it so I didn't say anything, but you did it well. :)
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 27, 2007 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I flat-out LOVED Memento.  I could watch it again this very second.  And again tomorrow, as well.

by sharksrog on Dec 28, 2007 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I saw that film, but don't remember it.

:-)

McCovey Chronicles was better when mine was the lowest IQ on the board.

by Goofus on Dec 28, 2007 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Pedestrian film?  I'll grant you it's no Memento or others you mentioned, but in comparison to other superhero movies, it's the best of the best (point can be argued for Spiderman 2, but Batman is my favorite superhero, so I'll back Batman Begins).
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Dec 28, 2007 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
JR, I meant "pedestrian" only in regards to subject matter and story. It was a story that had been told and re-told, so there were no surprises in the content.

I do agree with you that in comparison to other "superhero" fare it was extremely well done. The difference was for me in the added depth of the characters, along with Nolan's direction and influence. One of my favorites, and I cannot wait for the Dark Knight.

My adopted son Matt Downs. Because face it, everybody else was already taken by the time I got here.

by nvsfg on Dec 28, 2007 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Absolutely, 100% agree.  And I too am so stoked for the Dark Knight.  I'm honestly amazed I don't already have babysitting lined up for that night!
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Dec 29, 2007 12:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Jose Cruz Jr.
  2. a premeditated stroke of genius
  3. Wes Anderson - Rushmore, Royal Tennenbaums, Darjeeling Limited
  4. A tie - Jesse Foppert/ Kurt Ainsworth
  5. I think Dan Ortmeier will be the starting first baseman when the season starts.
  6. Pumpkin...or chocolate although I know some people would argue that chocolate isn't a real pie

by Keenlow on Dec 27, 2007 5:12 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Cruz Jr
  2. Blind genius...just like Stevie Wonder
  3. Tarantino; Pulp Fiction, Resevoir Dogs, Kill Bill 2
  4. Osvaldo Fernandez..what a sexy latin man he was!
  5. Will...no, will not...will...won't...what was the question?
  6. Hair
McCovey Chronicles was better when mine was the lowest IQ on the board.

by Goofus on Dec 27, 2007 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1.  Fraud
  2.  I don't think that anything a general manager of a baseball team does is "genius", I save that for people who actually do things, but it was a well conceived and executed.
  3. John Waters  - Polyester, Female Trouble, Pink Flamingos
  4.  Jerome
  5.  Marionberry

by satyricrash on Dec 27, 2007 5:19 PM PST reply actions  

RE: ORT
"I don't understand the question and I refuse to answer it."

by satyricrash on Dec 27, 2007 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I blame Felix Rodriguez for the Giants' championship drought more than any other player from the past decade.

The Jeff Kent trade was both a premeditated stroke of genius/blind luck.

If I could pick three films from any director to take with me to the gulag after I was arrested for treason, that director would be Hayao Miyazaki and the films would be Princess Mononoke, Howl's Moving Castle, and My Neighbor Totoro.

My favorite failed Giants pitching prospect was Shawn Estes.

I think Dan Ortmeier will be the starting first baseman when the season starts.

My favorite pie is banana creme.

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 27, 2007 5:25 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1.  Jose Cruz jr.  Why? BECAUSE I SAID SO.
  2.  The Jeff Kent trade was a combination of genius and luck.
  3.  The Coen Brothers:  Fargo, No Country for Old Men and O Brother, Where Art Thou?  (Sergio Leone was a very very very very very close second for this.)
  4.  My favorite failed Giants pitching prospect was Jerome Williams.
  5.  I think Dan Ortmeier will not be the starting first baseman when the season starts.
  6.  My favorite pie is my Caramel Crumb Apple Pie.  De-Freaking-licious.
Pedro Feliz: Marginally better this year.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Dec 27, 2007 6:03 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Cruz Jr.
  2. Genius - everyone else thought it was horrible, he has to be a genius.
  3. In the Name of the Father, The Shawshank Redemption, and Escape from Alcatraz. Three different directors, but if I'm going into a Gulag, I want movies where the prisoners get out.
  4. William Van Landingham - I don't know why
5.The Giants trade for someone else to start at first, but Ortmeier backs up the position.
6. Pecan, everyone loves pecan pie.

by Sayhey on Dec 27, 2007 6:12 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. F-Rod (or Fraud)
  2. In the middle (Good move, loved Matt Williams)
  3. Anything Scorcese
  4. Jesse FLOPpert
  5. Dan Ortmeier won't make the opening day roster... it will be a Rich Aurilia/Shitty Player platoon... and their totals will be .246/.298/.315
  6. Pumpkins (it's the holidays still) but I can't pass up anything cobblered
lincecum, cain, lowry, sanchez for jeff kent

by lincysgiants on Dec 27, 2007 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
+1 on the movies

-1 on the pie

by Adam @ McCovey Chronicles on Dec 27, 2007 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Felix - No doubt.

Although, at the time I defended that trade, I gotta go "dumb luck".

This is the hardest question I have ever answered. I thought about David Fincher, but couldn't think of a 3rd to go with Fight Club, and Se7en. Same with Spike Jonze; no 3rd to go with Being John Malkovich, and Adaptation. But I really like the old movies best, like John Ford's - Grapes of Wrath, Ft. Apache, and The Searchers. Or Howard Hawks' To Have and Have Not, The Big Sleep, and Red River. I had to consider Akira Kurosawa - 7 Samurai, Yojimbo, Ran, and David Lean - Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence, of Arabia and Passage to India. But for me it has to be John Huston - The Maltese Falcon, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, and The African Queen. The trouble with picking 3 Huston movies though is leaving Beat the Devil, Key Largo, Prizzi's Honor, Wise Blood, The Man Who Would be King, and Fat City off the list.

Jesse Foppert

Will

Cherry

by marklar on Dec 27, 2007 6:26 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
If Jonze directed Eternal Sunshine, he might have been the answer to my own question. Or, maybe the movie wouldn't have been as brilliant.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 27, 2007 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
1. Dusty Baker
for letting Mark f-ing Gardner hit with the bases loaded against the mets
For letting Rich Ortiz start the 7th but not finish
For having no clue what a pitching staff is
Having no Idea where is little boy is

2. a pre meditated stroke of luck.
3.
John sturges Escape from Fort Bravo, The Great Escape, Magnificent seven
or
John Carpenter Escape from NY, Escape from LA, Big Trouble in Little China

3a. Jenet Amelie,A very long  engagement,City of lost children

  1. Solomon Torres
  2. AAA if we are lucky
  3. Custard (great for throwing at guards or Dodger fans)

by darthvedder on Dec 27, 2007 6:52 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Scott Spiezio
  2. I'm sure Sabean had no idea Kent would be as good for the Giants as he was.
3)Krzysztof Kieslowski - If I had to count each as separate I'd take Bleu, Blanc and Rouge. If I can pick the pieces as conceived units - Dekalog, Trois Coleurs and La Double Vie de Veronique.
  1. Joe Nathan - oh yeah, he wasn't a failure, just some guy who could be traded for someone better.
  2. No
  3. Rhubarb - sorry, no one else named it and I couldn't resist.

by geezer123 on Dec 27, 2007 7:20 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. FRod
  2. a premeditated stroke of genius
  3. Stephen Chow: Kung Fu Hustle, Shaolin Soccer, God of Cookery OR Brad Bird: Iron Giant, The Incredibles, Ratatouille
  4. Jesse Foppert
  5. will
  6. apple
Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Dec 27, 2007 7:58 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. This will be unpopular, and I have had arguments with my friends about this, but Rob Nen has a lot to do with the game 6 collapse in 2002.  My belief is if your shoulder is spaghetti, you don't pitch, no matter how much of a gamer you are.
  2. Pure, stupid, blind luck.
  3. Very difficult.  At this momement, I will go with Zhang Yimou - To Live, Raise the Red Lantern, Hero.  Although when I am in the gulag, I reserve the right to change my mind, hop on Netflix, and change out all three movies for some Fellini, Anderson, kar-Wai, Ford, Scorsese, Jarmusch...
  4. I thought Ainsworth had a future...
  5. Ort will.
  6. Apple.  If you live in Sacramento, go to the Tower Cafe and get their apple pie.  Mmmm.
Go Fred Lewis... You're better than the alternative... Yippee...

by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 27, 2007 8:00 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Robb reportedly hurt his arm when he pitched on his fourth straight day at the end of August.  But if you look at the results of how he pitched from that point UNTIL game 6 of the World Series, it is amazing how effective he was given the circumstances.

by sharksrog on Dec 28, 2007 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Tower Cafe
mmmm....

by Adam @ McCovey Chronicles on Dec 28, 2007 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
1.FR

2.stroke of luck that made sabean look like a genius

3.(cant think of a director so here's three movies) M*A*S*H, Austin Powers 3, and Jackass 2

4.Toss-up between jesse foppert and jerome williams

  1. (cringing) yes
  2. chocolate

by spartan25 on Dec 27, 2007 8:03 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I'm vaguely impressed that nobody has gone with the original Star Wars Trilogy (because we all know they all were directed by different people!).

I don't know. About a director. Most of these directors only have two movies at most that I can't live without. Edgar Wright (Shaun and Hot Fuzz), Satoshi Kon (Millenium Actress and Tokyo Godfathers), Lucas (Star Wars IV, SW EIII: Revenge of the Sith), Alfonso Cuaron (Children of Men), etc.

Therefore, by default: Mel Brooks, with Young Frankenstein, Spaceballs, and The Producers.

Dave Righetti: You Know You Want It. / Also, my blog. For writers.

by howtheyscored on Dec 27, 2007 8:07 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I went with Miller's Crossing as my third pick even though I've only seen it once.  I figured a) I absolutely love the other two movies by the Coen Brothers, and b) when I'm stuck in the gulag it will be nice to have a movie I haven't seen a million times.
"natto is just weird and gross in smell, texture, and taste" - BVCE

by SF Pete on Dec 27, 2007 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I figure when I'm stuck in the gulag it will be nice to have movie's that I can recite fanatically to go with my naturally impending gulag psychosis. And being able to recite a strung out Gene Wilder character two out of three times will make the transition all the easier.
Dave Righetti: You Know You Want It. / Also, my blog. For writers.

by howtheyscored on Dec 27, 2007 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Guy Richie lands in the only two movie catagory with Snatch and Lock Stock

by chefasaurus on Dec 27, 2007 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1.  Jason Schmidt
  2.  Pre-med
  3.  Coen Brothers - O Brother, Where Art Thou?; The Big Lebowski; Miller's Crossing
  4.  Jerome Williams
  5.  Yes
  6.  Pecan
"natto is just weird and gross in smell, texture, and taste" - BVCE

by SF Pete on Dec 27, 2007 8:09 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix Rodirguez
  2. Premeditated
  3. Richard Linklater: Before Sunset, Waking Life, Dazed and Confused
  4. Jesse Foppert
  5. Yes
  6. Peach Cobbler
No longer proud Papa: SuperBAD Brad

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 27, 2007 8:11 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. F-Rod for not taking his "flax seed that night"
  2. blind luck
  3. Michael Bay and the films would be "no films, just him...and all the stories of all the poon."
  4. My favorite failed Giants pitching prospect was Jesse Foppert.
  5. I think Dan Ortmeier sadly will be the starting first baseman when the season starts.
  6. My favorite pie is Meat Pie.

by NuschlersDip on Dec 27, 2007 9:44 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
All this pie talk reminds me of one of my very favorite exchanges in the movie Chicken Run. Hehe. Apple pie. That's my favorite.
Dave Righetti: You Know You Want It. / Also, my blog. For writers.

by howtheyscored on Dec 27, 2007 9:48 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Ooh, Nick Park is also a good director choice.
Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Dec 27, 2007 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Director
But a bit slim on Full Lengths, though, wouldn't you say? Or is my mind escaping me?
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM! / Also, my blog. For writers.

by howtheyscored on Dec 27, 2007 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah
Chicken Run and Wallace & Gromit Curse of the Were-Rabbit are the only two feature films that he (co)directed, but I think they're good enough to stand up on their own.
Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Dec 27, 2007 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
1.) JT Snow
2.) Luck.
3.) Did the same guy direct Stalag 17 and the Great Escape? If so, I want that guy.
4.) Threets
5.) Nate Schierholtz will be the starting 1B by the end of the year. He will not be good.
6.) Unless meat pie, pot pie, and shepard's pie count, then I don't like pie
Pedro Feliz would look great in Dodger Blue.

by irwin on Dec 27, 2007 10:15 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Stalag 17 was Billy Wilder. You could get some nice variety with Stalag 17, Double Indemnity, and Some Like It Hot.
Adopted Giant: Travis Denker. Good?

by scotterduder on Dec 27, 2007 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Sunset Blvd., The Apartment, and Stalag 17 would be my choices for Wilder.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 27, 2007 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Oh yeah, I forgot Billy Wilder. He's another one that I would have trouble narrowing down to just 3 movies.

by marklar on Dec 31, 2007 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I just realized... it was so obvious!
Hair Pie!
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM! / Also, my blog. For writers.

by howtheyscored on Dec 27, 2007 10:19 PM PST reply actions  

San Francisco...
...and not a SINGLE person said Hitchcock?  Shame on all of you.

Since I'm fairly new to the Giants, I'll just contribute my answer to #s 3 & 6.

  1. Hitchcock - Strangers On A Train, Rear Window, Rope  (although Fincher, Kubrick, Billy Wilder, John Ford, Coppola, Milos Forman, Woody Allen, Jonathan Demme, and Christopher Nolan are right up there)
  2. Humble

by RangerMoto on Dec 27, 2007 10:29 PM PST reply actions  

Re: San Francisco...
I named my cat Hitchcock, if that makes it better. I'd do Rear Window, North by Northwest, and Psycho.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 27, 2007 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: San Francisco...
No slam intended against the master. Rear Window, Psycho, and Vertigo.

by El4short on Dec 27, 2007 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: San Francisco...
I was going to make an "I'd do" joke, but I used up all my "I'd do" jokes for old people when I made that "Bea Arthur: I'd hit it" crack a while back. Stupid system of quotas and limits.

That said, I'd do Grace Kelley, Eve Marie Saint, and Janet Leigh in 1954, 1959, and 1960 respectively, accounting for them being their ages then and me being my age now in this ever more unlikely take on your perfectly innocent choice of phrase....

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM! / Also, my blog. For writers.

by howtheyscored on Dec 27, 2007 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: San Francisco...
I'd do Catherine Deneuve circa 1965.
Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Dec 27, 2007 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: San Francisco...
Maggie Cheung circa "Irma Vep" (OMG) or Kelly Macdonald circa pretty much any time from "Trainspotting" onwards. I could post a whole diary about this subject, really.
Lon Simmons' adopted dad.

by Kitspool on Dec 28, 2007 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: San Francisco...
Audrey Hepburn. Circa Any Year :-)

My adopted son Matt Downs. Because face it, everybody else was already taken by the time I got here.

by nvsfg on Dec 28, 2007 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: San Francisco...
Hitchcock was great.  I just watched "The Man who Knew too Much" again recently, and was fascinated by how he was able to build the tension with the symphony and chorus piece that more of less closed out the film.

by sharksrog on Dec 28, 2007 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Man Who Knew Too Much
I didn't know there was more than one version.  It was the one with Jimmy Stewart and Doris "Que sera, sera" Day.

There was a parody movie called "The Man who Knew too Little," but I wasn't aware there was more than one version of "The Man who Knew too Much."

That said, of course, it is obvious that I know too little.

by sharksrog on Dec 28, 2007 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix the Rod. Bastard.
  2. I used to think genius was involved, but no longer.
  3. This was really tough! If Lucas had only directed Empire Strikes Back . . . I'm going with Coppola: Godfathers 1 & 2 and Apocalypse Now.  A close runner-up is Spielberg: Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jaws and Close Encounters.  Also like Jackson and the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
  4. Jesse Foppert.
  5. No.
  6. Mmmm, coconut cream.

by El4short on Dec 27, 2007 10:31 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Damn - Leone. How could I forget Sergio Leone?  Once Upon a Time in the West . . . The Good, the Bad and the Ugly . . . jeez.

by El4short on Dec 27, 2007 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. I blame Jose Cruz, Jr. for the Giants' championship drought more than any other player from the past decade.
  2. The Jeff Kent trade was blind luck.
  3. If I could pick three films from any director to take with me to the gulag after I was arrested for treason, that director would be the Coen brothers and the films would be Miller's Crossing, Barton Fink, and Oh Brother Where Art Thou (Miller's Crossing is my favorite, and I've seen Fargo and Big Lebowski so many times I could play them in my head).
  4. My favorite failed Giants pitching prospect was Jerome Williams, who I believe signed with the A's at some point.
  5. I think Dan Ortmeier will not be the starting first baseman when the season starts.
  6. My favorite pie is pumpkin pie.
Steve Kline: How okay is he, really? I would say he is pretty okay.

by groug on Dec 27, 2007 10:34 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. I blame Brian Sabean.  He actually is an idiot.
  2. Brian Sabean is an idiot.  Therefore the Kent trade could not have been a premeditated stroke of genius.  It was blind luck.
  3. I would take the Coen Brothers' The Big Lebowski, Fargo and No Country for Old Men
  4. My favorite failed Giants pitching prospect is Joe Nathan, who actually wasn't a failure.  Brian Sabean is just an idiot.
  5. If Dan Ortmeier is the starting first baseman, Brian Sabean is as big an idiot as I think he is.
  6. My favorite Pie is Felix.  Why can't the Giants ever develop a hitting prospect?  Because Brian Sabean dumped all his draft picks to sign Neifi Perez and Michael Tucker.
Just one time before I die

by Katman on Dec 27, 2007 10:34 PM PST reply actions  

Katman's picks
I believe I see a trend here.
The SF Giants: we're not much, but you should check out our team in Augusta!

by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Dec 28, 2007 6:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Different question....
If you had to pick a director with seven near-flawless movies, who would it be?

There's pretty much only one correct answer. Remember, the key part of the question is "near-flawless." We're talking the archetype of the genre.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 27, 2007 10:50 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Different question....
Gotta be Uwe Boll.
Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Dec 27, 2007 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
I already blew it. Instead of "director" pretend I wrote "screenwriter."

And Uwe Boll is second.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 27, 2007 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
Billy Wilder
Adopted Giant: Travis Denker. Good?

by scotterduder on Dec 27, 2007 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
I think the 7 would be:
Double Indemnity
Sunset Boulevard
Stalag 17
Sabrina
Seven Year Itch
Some Like it Hot
The Apartment

I can't really think of anyone else...

Adopted Giant: Travis Denker. Good?

by scotterduder on Dec 27, 2007 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
Uh, damn. He fits the question. Double Indemnity, Stalag 17, The Apartment, The Lost Weekend (which I haven't seen), Sabrina, Sunset Blvd., and Some Like it Hot would work.

But I'm thinking of someone else, dammit.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 27, 2007 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
Blood Simple, Raising Arizona, Millers Crossing, Fargo, Big Lebowski, and Oh Brother Where Art Thou are nearly perfect scripts all. And I'd be willing to toss Intolerable Cruelty onto the pile to make a seventh.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Dec 28, 2007 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
Or possibly their uncredited work on The Evil Dead.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Dec 28, 2007 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
I'm pretty sure that Intolerable Cruelty didn't happen. It was a myth.

I don't know enough about Sturges, so I'll back away from the "there can be only one"-shtick. But the movies to which I'm referring:

Mr. Mom
Weird Science
Breakfast Club
Sixteen Candles
National Lampoon's Vacation
Planes, Trains, & Automobiles
Ferris Bueller's Day Off

That's without giving him credit for Uncle Buck, Christmas Vacation, and Home Alone.

All praise John Hughes.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 28, 2007 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
You forgot The Man Who Wasn't There; a very good and highly underrated movie that I would substitute for Intolerable Cruelty.

by marklar on Dec 31, 2007 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
Well, no, I didn't forget it exactly. I just don't like it much.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Dec 31, 2007 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
Then you should watch it again because you definitely missed something the first time. This movie is great for Tony Shaloub alone, yet he is only part of a great cast. It's beautifully crafted with all sorts of noir allusions. It is really a much better movie than the somewhat shallow Miller's Crossing or the indulgent Barton Fink.

by marklar on Dec 31, 2007 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
It is really a much better movie than the somewhat shallow Miller's Crossing or the indulgent Barton Fink.

You probably like Dio-era Black Sabbath more than Ozzy-era Black Sabbath.

by Grant Brisbee on Jan 1, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....

Can I like both Black Sabbaths?  I like both AC/DCs...

by zenbitz on Jan 1, 2008 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
BLASPHEMER!

Although Barton is self indulgent... I heard it was written while they had writers block on... Millers' Crossing.

by zenbitz on Jan 1, 2008 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
Gotta be Frank Mankiewicz. Or David Mamet.
The SF Giants: we're not much, but you should check out our team in Augusta!

by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Dec 28, 2007 6:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
Preston Sturges (Unfaithfully Yours, Hail the Conquering Hero, Miracle of Morgan Creek, Palm Beach Story, Sullivan's Travels, The Lady Eve, The Great McGinty -- bonus points to Sullivan's Travels for inspiring the title of Oh Brother Where Art Thou!).

If we were still on directors the answer would be Kurosawa, and I can count to more than 7 on that one.

My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Dec 28, 2007 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Uwe Boll
whenever I hear his name I immediately think of Manute Bol. I can usually them apart by their pictures though.

by go giants go on Dec 27, 2007 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
Is Uwe Bol the illegimate love child of Uwe Blab and Manute Bol?  If so, he should be very, very tall indeed.

by sharksrog on Dec 28, 2007 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
Paul W. S. Anderson?
He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM! / Also, my blog. For writers.

by howtheyscored on Dec 27, 2007 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
I already blew it. Instead of "director" pretend I wrote "screenwriter."

And Paul W. S. Anderson is third.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 27, 2007 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Different question....
If the same guy directed all the Police Academy movies, then him.

Otherwise I got nothin'

Steve Kline: How okay is he, really? I would say he is pretty okay.

by groug on Dec 28, 2007 12:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
First time/long time here.  

Nothing like a slow timey get-to-know-your-neighbor quiz....

  1. Felix
  2. Luck
  3. Coens: Miller's Crossing, Big Lebowski, O Brother Where Art Thou?
  4. Foppert.
  5. No, Aurilia.
  6. Pootang pie.

by jjjordanovich on Dec 27, 2007 10:52 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
The only three that I have strong feelings about are...
  1.  The Kent trade was blind dumb luck.  Very few players bust out at that age.  The trade was supposed to be for Julian Tavarez.
  2.  If the Gulag is fully depressing, then I go with Kevin Smith:  Chasing Amy, Jay and Bob Strike Back, and Dogma.  If it's a Disney Gulag, then it's David Lynch with Mulholland Drive, Blue Velvet, and Elephant Man.
  3.  I am rooting for Ort to succeed greatly, if for no other reasons than it would be a cheap win for the Giants and I have a bunch of his rookie cards.

by achiappanza on Dec 27, 2007 10:56 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix is the player.  But, Baker is the one I really hate.
  2.  Most trades are blind luck.
  3.  I am going to avoid the pretentious film studies grad answer and say I would just hang myself because life without movies isn't a life at all.
  4.  Right now, Nathan.  However, as stated somewhere above, that is really just Sabes being an idiot.  I do think that in the next two years my answer will change to Lowry.  He's gonna break my heart.
  5.  Oh, he will be.  If not, Tony Clark sounds right up Sabes alley.
  6.  Vanilla cream with an all butter crust.
I would've made my junior high team if I had just taken the juice.

by Boz Oliver on Dec 27, 2007 11:10 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Neither. Candy Maldonado.
  2. D. luck.
  3. Billy Wilder -- Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard, Some Like It Hot.
  4. Ainsworth.
  5. Sure hope not.
  6. 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375.
Twenty-seven years of waiting has come to an end.

by trapper9 on Dec 27, 2007 11:11 PM PST reply actions  

3.14 etc....
Finally ! We had to get this far into the post for a Pi joke. Nicely done !
My adopted son Matt Downs. Because face it, everybody else was already taken by the time I got here.

by nvsfg on Dec 28, 2007 8:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Fe-rod. Or F-rod since Francisco Rodriguez is called K-rod cuz hes um Strikeout Rodriguez or something.
  2. premeditated luck. thats sabeans strategy.
  3. Wong Kar Wai - Chungking Express, Fallen Angels, In the Mood for Love. Miyazaki a close 2nd.
  4. Jerome Williams! I actually wore pooka shells for a few weeks just cuz of him! I thought he'd be an anchor for a long time. Helped my fantasy team. Whyd he suck all of a sudden?
  5. Will not. Will platoon with an old guy. Hes got the grit but not the savv.
  6. Pecan+Pumpkin+Cherry for some sort of delicious hybrid. Chumpkan.

by go giants go on Dec 27, 2007 11:31 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Wong Kar-Wai is a good choice.
I would've made my junior high team if I had just taken the juice.

by Boz Oliver on Dec 27, 2007 11:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Neither. Has to be Dusty for taking Ortiz out of Game 6 when he wasn't really in that much trouble.
  2. Premeditated dumb luck
  3. I would've picked Coppola, but I couldn't get down to 3 films (Godfather I & II, Conversation & Apocalypse Now). Therefore, chose Scorsese for Raging Bull, Taxi Driver & Departed.
  4. Mike Remlinger. Although he fashioned a career later on as a LOOGY, he was touted to be the next big thing when he was coming up in the minors.
  5. Not if Sabean can find a grizzled veteran to sign a contract
  6. Felix Pie.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on Dec 27, 2007 11:41 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Don't give Scrocese too much credit for The Departed.  He ripped it off, or made a remake as they say today, of a better Chinese film.  And, it was nothing more than a translation.
I would've made my junior high team if I had just taken the juice.

by Boz Oliver on Dec 28, 2007 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Just because it was a remake doesn't make it a bad film. Expertly crafted and expertly acted.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on Dec 29, 2007 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. I blame Felix Rodriguez because being an overrated defender does less damage then not being able to throw any pitches other than your straight fastball.
  2. The Jeff Kent trade was a premeditated stroke of genius.  Thats a bold statement but more in line than dumb luck.  Schmidt was PED enhanced dumb luck
  3. Sergio Leone: The Good the Bad The Ugly, Once Upon a Time in the West, and either Once Upon a Time in America or Fistfull of Dollars
  4. Have to go hometown boy with Jesse Foppert (until Merkin's arm explodes for the last time.)
  5. I think Dan Ortmeier will be the starting first baseman when the season starts because he will face righties whereas Richie will platoon against lefties.  (sad fact)
6.Pedro Feliz's specialty, the 3 year pie in the sky deal.
Merkin Valdez...... I swear he's still alive.

by peteisathug on Dec 28, 2007 12:39 AM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. F-Rod needs more love, he was nails for ages.  I give the goat award to Livan.  He piched underhand in the 2002 series.  Way to help take control of homefield advantage in Game 3, tubbo.
  2. A solid move by someone who knew the franchise needed a jolt.  Sabean gets ripped too often by the lunatic fringe.
  3. Kevin Smith for his gems, tho the best movie of all-time is Tommy Boy.
  4. Trevor Wilson anyone? haha
  5. God I hope not, and knowing Bochy, no chance.  All the blind youth-starved fans who scream for younger players to play should at least scream for GOOD younger players.  Tho i'd take him over Schierholtz in the lineup any day.
  6. Felix Pie.  He'd look good in center.

by mlb22 on Dec 28, 2007 1:08 AM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Felix Rodriguez for sure. But of course, I blame Dusty most of all for putting him in that situation. If you only have one pitch and a manager puts you in a situation where if a guy just happens to put the bat on the ball...DUSTY!!!Why damnit, why?
  2. Certainly not a stroke of genius, but not completely a stroke of pure luck. Just what good GMs should do when a good player seems to have peaked. Trade them for a haul and hope some of them pans out. If your team is bad, a trade like that is like a Christmas Eve--pleasant anticipation. Haven't had that feeling in a while.
  3. Tough one.
Scorsese: Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull
Kieslowski: Decalogue, 1-3

4.

Scott Garrelts: had some good years, but the dude should've been better for longer.
Jesse Foppert: I think one of the first victims of 90s Giant's pitching hype machine, which I bought into without doing my due diligence. But stronger and wiser for it now.
Matt White: did he ever sign?
Jason Grilli: can't believe he was the #4 pick that year.

  1. I don't think the Giants have any intention of giving Ortmeir the starting 1B job.
  2. Humble pie. If Ortmeir's the 2008 starting 1B.
   
Uribe to Thompson to Clark: Don't tinker ever with chance

by tellusfrank on Dec 28, 2007 3:06 AM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I was at the game Garrelts took a no hitter into the ninth (closest I've ever come to seeing one live). He was really gassed. Was never the same after that.

by geezer123 on Dec 29, 2007 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Agh, I've had no internet for the past week. Catching up is so overwhelming!
  1. FELIX
  2. luck
  3. Christopher Guest; Waiting for Guffman, A Mighty Wind, Best in Show
  4. Jesse Foppert (he went to the same Japanese restaurant as I do!)
  5. not
  6. cherry
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Dec 28, 2007 3:56 AM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I was going to include it over Best in Show, but then I remembered that Reiner directed it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Dec 29, 2007 2:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Julian Tavarez
  2. A little skill, a little luck
  3. Ridley Scott (Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, Alien)
  4. Shawn Estes
  5. Will be starting...
  6. Pumpkin ftw!

by kenzo on Dec 28, 2007 5:52 AM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
I just like the idea that so many of the answers about the starting first baseman contain the word "Will".  Really.
"I'd rather be in a prison cell with Mike Tyson, and let him beat my butt all day long, than go through that again." - John Kruk, on the last place '92 season.

by getnby on Dec 28, 2007 6:09 AM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
1.Fifi
  1. Blind Luck
  2. The prospect of only getting to choose one director might force me to name names. Can't I just bring an ipod? Depending on last second inspiration either Kurosawa (High and Low, Ikiru, Ran), Tarantino (Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Kill Bill Vol. 1), Wes Anderson (Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Darjeeling Limited), Kubrick (Dr. Strangelove, The Killing, Full Metal Jacket), Welles (Citizen Kane, Touch of Evil, F For Fake), Hawkes (His Girl Friday, The Big Sleep, Red River), Wilder (Double Indemnity, Sunset Blvd, The Apartment), kar Wai (Happy Together, Chunking Express, Fallen Angels), cukor (Philadelphia Story, Gaslight, My Fair Lady) or Kieslowski (Double life, Dekalogue, Tri Colors).
  3. Jesse Foppert
  4. Will be, alas.
  5. Key Lime
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Dec 28, 2007 6:49 AM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
oh Christ and Errol Morris (Fast Cheap & Out of Control, Mr. Death, Gates of Heaven) and Preston Struges (Palm Beach Story, Sullivans Travels, Miracle of Morgan Creek), too.
My boy ain't fat, he's just big boned. Big bat, too.

by Roger on Dec 28, 2007 6:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Of the players, I'd assing 5% blame Tim Worrell, Livan Hernandez, and Robb Nen. Overall, I blame Johnny B. Baker 95%. He's a terrific guy, just not a good manager.
  2. The Matt Williams trade was just what someone above said: a good idea in principle (credit Sabean) that turned out incredibly lucky. So both.
  3. Wow. Stuck in a gulag with only 3 movies, all by the same director. It would have been easier to go with all the same writer. I'll say James Cameron, with Terminator(1984), True Lies(1994), and Titanic(1997), although I also liked The Abyss, and I keep meaning to rent Aliens. For me, Steven Soderbergh came in a close second - but if I'm stuck in a gulag I want a certain level of escapism in my movies. David Mamet if we're just talking screenwriters. I also considered Sergio Leone, Clint Eastwood, Christopher Nolan, and even Michael Bay(Bad Boys, The Island, The Rock).
  4. My favorite failed Giants pitching prospect was Joe Roselli. A HS lefty, I thought he had the perfect name for a SF pitcher. I would have ordered a Roselli jersey the minute he hit the bigs.
  5. I think Dan Ortmeier will be the Opening Day 1B. I do not think he will be in 2009. I predict an average year for him, but he'll be jerked out of the starting lineup in late May when the Giants sink to the bottom of the standings.
  6. My favorite pie is pumpkin, although cherry/cream cheese is a close second.
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by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Dec 28, 2007 6:55 AM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Definitely FiFi...  Maybe Livo.
  2. Probably mostly dumb luck, especially considering Kent wasn't the centerpiece of the trade.
  3. There's either Wes Anderson - Bottle Rocket, The Royal Tenenbaums, and Rushmore (or The Life Aquatic), or the Coens - O Brother, Lebowski, aaaaaaand...  Maybe Fargo (haven't seen Raising Arizona or No Country).  Or Peter Jackson, because I'm a huge geek, and I'd like to think that the Lord of the Rings trilogy would count as one movie, so I could also bring King Kong.  But if they have to be separate, then each LoTR flick is good enough, especially since I don't really have a third Jackson flick to pick from...
  4. I'd have to say Jerome Williams, because he got a WHOLE lot of hype, and even looked good in a few starts his first year.
  5. He will start the year as at least a platooning first baseman, and will lose his job by mid-May at the latest to Rich Aurilia.
  6. Definitely apple pie with the crumbly top with cinnamon.  Freakin' awesome awesome stuff!
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Dec 28, 2007 8:23 AM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Cheeseburger.  He didn't even show up for Game 7.  Scooch it back a few more years & I'll say Dave Burba.  Yep, Torres got rocked, but Burba let game #162 get out of control.
  2. Overrated.  Aurilia hit 37 hrs in front of Barry, Kent became a HOFer.  What would Matty hit during Barry's Ruthian years?
  3. Spielberg - Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Saving Private Ryan.  Scorsese's my favorite, but Spielberg is more re-watchable (more variety).  'Unforgiven' is my favorite, but really can't find 3 great (IMO) movies directed by Clint.
  4. Jesse Foppert
  5. Niekro 2.0
  6. Applie pie with a side of vanilla bean ice cream.... mmmm...
Brian Sabean's favorite song: "Centerfield" - John Fogerty

by ResDog on Dec 28, 2007 8:44 AM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
1.cruz jr.  (simply because he deserves more wrath than he's receiving here)
  1. in between, matty or barry HAD to go, sabes clearly made the right choice on which one and got the best package offered for williams, but no one saw kent coming
  2.  tough one...spielberg i guess
  3. just reading the laundry list (estes, van landingham, torres, ainsworth, foppert, williams) and comparing it to the opposite list (cain) is making that rios/lincecum trade look good.  ahhh make it stop.  
  4. will not (gotta believe as of today aurilia is the starting 1B, but im keeping fingers crossed for nick/dan johnson)
  5. berry

by sam23 on Dec 28, 2007 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Many things look good in hindsight (Jason Schmidt for Ryan Howard, for one), but I don't seem to recall any one of Estes, VanLandingham, Torres, Ainsworth, Foppert, or Williams ever being regularly compared to Sandy Koufax. If Rios were being compared to Ted Williams by a number of people, then you might have something there.

Anyone got a link for an article I heard about where major leaguers listed Lincecum as the (or maybe just one of the) hardest pitcher(s) to hit?

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by hairball on Dec 28, 2007 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
No link, just agreement.  Look, the other guys looked fine and showed some decent stuff.  But Lincecum appears to be a little different.  I mean, HOW many innings did he pitch in the minors before he got his call up?  If you watched him pitch, you'd know he looked extremely good.

Yeah, he could turn into Torres/Williams/Foppert, etc, but I'd rather take the gamble that he'll turn in a stellar career, and we should hold onto him for the next six years by those brownish points, and not let go.  No matter WHAT your mom says.

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Dec 28, 2007 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
whoa, whoa im not a supporter of a lincecum trade, im just saying i dont even like being reminded of how often these pitching phenoms flame out

by sam23 on Dec 28, 2007 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
No love for John Sayles?  Matewan, Passion Fish, Eight Men Out and Lone Star.  Some pretty good stuff but maybe not gulag worthy.

by out machine on Dec 28, 2007 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Don't forget "Brother from Another Planet" -- classic line in the Harlem bar: "White folks get crazier every day."

by NearestNorwich on Dec 28, 2007 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
   3. Pedro Almodovar: All About My Mother, Tie Me Up Tie Me Down, Talk To Her
   4. I don't really have any favorite failed Giants pitching prospects (I only barely remember VanLandingham) so I'll just take this moment to remember 3 of my favorite Giants pitchers: John Burkett of the perfect bowling game, Bill Swift, and Big Daddy Rick Reuschel.
   5. I think Dan Ortmeier WILL NOT be the starting first baseman when the season starts, but I HOPE he is.
   6. My favorite pie is not really a pie at all- Raspberry Lemon Cheesecake. Yum.
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by hairball on Dec 28, 2007 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Livan Hernandez. Cruz and Flip got us there, and were undone by mere moments. Livo's so-called Postseason Magic, and 4 walks in two innings, really undid us. How can you NOT beat Kevin Appier?
  2. Blind luck on Kent. But Matt Williams wasn't as good as I thought he was, anyway, and Viz and Taverez contributed, too, so a good trade.
  3. Werner Herzog: Aguirre, The Wrath of God; The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser; and Fitzcarraldo.
Terrence Malick's first three and Wes Anderson's first three are close, as are combinations from Ernst Lubitsch and Scorsese.
  1. Van Landingham, partly because I remember hearing he had great taste in music, and because he signed and returned the baseball card I sent to him.
  2. Will not.
  3. Walnut.
Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz

by lyricalkiller on Dec 28, 2007 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Dusty trotted FRod out in each of Games 1-6 in 2002, including the 10-4 loss and the 16-4 win. In Game 6, he was facing Spiezio for the third time in the Series.  FRod battled Spiezio hard for eight pitches before the inevitable happened.  I blame FRod anyway. Him and Neifi Perez.
  2. I'm of the belief that a GM deserves full credit for any good trade and full blame for any bad one.  Same way a hitter receives full credit for any hit, lucky or not. So I say the Kent trade was genius. And by that measure, Sabean was a great GM through the end of 2002, and a terrible one since then.
  3. I was going to say Hitchcock, but decided that, given the circumstances, I'd probably rather have some movies that would make me laugh. So I'm going with Woody Allen (Play it Again Sam, Annie Hall, Bullets Over Broadway).
  4. Bill Bordley! (sung to the tune of "Junk", by Paul McCartney) It's a very obscure inside joke, and I'm probably the only one laughing at it.
  5. (flipping a coin--heads he will, tails he won't) Will.
  6. Berry pie at Marie Callenders (heated, no ice cream). Sheer bliss.

by tobias on Dec 28, 2007 1:00 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. Rodriguez.
  2. Blind luck.
  3. Christopher Nolan- "Following," "Memento," and "Insomnia."  Honorable mentions go to Michael Mann and David Fincher.
  4. Salomon Torres.
  5. Will be platooning with Tony Clark or someone who bears an annoying resemblance to Tony Clark (perhaps "Clony Tark"?)
  6. Pecan, followed closely by coconut cream.
I'm a Giants fan because my dad realized at a very young age that the Phillies suck.

by oneflapdown on Dec 28, 2007 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....

I blame Sabean for not trading Jason Schmidt over the span of T-W-O years and for not signing Carlos Beltran...and for Zito...and...stupid Sabean...stupid...man!

The Jeff Kent trade was smart and lucky.

Michael Mann (pick 'em), Sergio Leone (pick 'em), and either the Coen Brothers or Ridley Scott (pick 'em).  Movies?  Too many to list, but Blade Runner, Big Lebowski, Heat (stupid ending though) and/or The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly would have to be included.

My favorite failed Giants pitching prospect was???  Can I pick William Van Launching Pad?  Okay, him!

I think Dan Ortmeier will be the starting first baseman when the season starts...and I think that we're in trouble.

My favorite pie is apple or blueberry.

by Kent @ McCovey Chronicles on Dec 28, 2007 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
My favorite prospect who fell short of his early promise was John "The Count" Montefusco.
Re: the movies -- I don't keep up with who made what very closely but I'd be tempted to say Alan Parker for "The Commitments" plus any other two things he did. And who was it who did "Alice's Restaurant"? That really holds up as a snapshot of its time. And I'm with jponry on Christopher Guest.
Pie -- pumpkin or pecan, but there isn't a fruit pie my wife makes that doesn't emerge as a masterpiece (All you single guys -- marry a baker and get a gym membership)

by NearestNorwich on Dec 28, 2007 8:26 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
Yeah, okay, I'm late on this, but these are fun, so I'm going to do it anyway.
  1. Dusty Baker. I'm still bitter about him starting Tavares for Game 7 of the 2002 WS.
  2. Blind luck.
  3. I was thinking of Terry Jones, Rob Reiner, and Brad Bird, but I finally decided on Andrew Adamson, if for no other reason than Prince Caspian is hot and drooling over him would give me a reason to live. (Okay, okay it's not even released yet, but who cares.) I'd take "Shrek 2" and "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" along as well.
  4. Shawn Estes
  5. Will not.
  6. My favorite kind of pie is cake. :-P
This is a clever and thought-provoking signature.

by KyrieEleison on Dec 29, 2007 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

Re: The slow timiest....
  1. It is a mix of Feel Rod(and his 1 pitch that he throws), and Dusty Baker(for making a bad decision on which pitcher to start)
  2. premeditated stroke of genius.
  3. christopher nolan (batman begins, the prestige, memento) close with peter jackson and the cohen bros
  4. Jesse Foppert
  5. Platooning with veteran
  6. Banberry
Not part of the solution since 1981

by triznad on Jan 1, 2008 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

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