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BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects

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The Giants Top Ten prospects plus various other rankings will be posted this Friday. There will also be a chat (probably Andrew Baggarly) where members can pose questions. So get your questions ready. I am very interested to see what they think of our low minor prospects

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Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I'm going to assume this is a dumb question, but Andy Baggarly from BA and Andrew Baggarly from the Merc are the same guy, correct?

by KCE on Dec 11, 2007 10:28 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Yep.

He's moonlighting with BA, actually giving the mag some actual west coast presence.

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by BruteSentiment on Dec 11, 2007 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
why wait for the experts, who are our top prospects, in your opinion? i know about guys like denker and bowker and velez, but ive seen stats for a kid named romo in single a who struck out 105 in 60 innings...anybody know anything about him?
thank god the patriots dont have the giants' first round pick too

by son of riles on Dec 11, 2007 10:33 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Sergio Romo is a McCC favorite for many of our favorite posters. I'm sure a comment or diary search for Romo will bring up more intelligent information on this site alone than you could find on him if you sent an FBI unit into his home to come back with a full psychological profile.
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2007 11:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Romo was a 24 year old in the Cal League, which is old for the league, so he better dominate;  the average age in the league is about 23 years.  Still, dominance is better than no dominance, but I think we need to see him perform in AA and/or AAA before we get too hyped over him.
"I'm a Giant now... I like watching the ball get up there" - Wendell Fairley "I'm really proud to be on this team." - Nate Schierholtz

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Dec 11, 2007 3:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I'm not wild about Romo, personally, and I didn't want to say he was a general favorite around here because I think it's just a few vocal, well known posters who are on the wagon, but he has come up in conversation around here with some real frequency and some solid enthusiasm.

I'm interested to see what he does, but I do need convincing.

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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2007 4:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I missed Romo in the AFL but there I heard nothing but glowing reports about him. I want to see his 14 different arm angles for myself.
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 11, 2007 8:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
His take on John Bowker and my adopted son, Andy D
Your 2010 NL rookie of the year,... Andy D'alessio

by ramirez415 on Dec 11, 2007 10:33 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

BA Top Ten Mastermind
I've played this every year.

1 point for right player, wrong place.  3 for right player, right place.

Winner gets bragging rights.

Since I've consistently been the only person who played this every year, I'm getting really sick of listening to myself brag.

"When Jackson Williams thinks of how many times Madison Bumgarner has tried to kill Tyler Walker..."

by multiphasic on Dec 11, 2007 10:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
  1. Angel Villalona- no doubt about it!
  2. Henry Sosa- great year moves him up this far?
  3. Tim Alderson- Limited sample size but dominant.
  4. John Bowker- huge year in Conn. Maybe?
  5. Nick Noonan- Impressed in rookie ball.
  6. Madison Bumgarner-0 stats/ At least a top 10 spot
  7. Sergio Romo- see Sosa
  8. Emmanuel Burris- recovered nicely after bad start
9.Andy D'Allessio- great #s/BA calls him too old?
10. Wendell Fairley- great potential no #s

I dunno. I took a shot. Are we wagering McCovey Bucks on this one?

I HATE BRIAN SABEAN!

by camwoody on Dec 11, 2007 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
Well can Nate Schierholtz still be called a propsect? Cuz if he can then he must be on that list also.
Your 2010 NL rookie of the year,... Andy D'alessio

by ramirez415 on Dec 11, 2007 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
Last year's top 10:

1.    Tim Lincecum, rhp
2.    Jonathan Sanchez, lhp
3.    Angel Villalona, 3b
4.    Emmanuel Burriss, ss
5.    Brian Wilson, rhp
6.    Kevin Frandsen, 2b
7.    Fred Lewis, of
8.    Nate Schierholtz, of
9.    Eddy Martinez-Esteve, of
10.    Billy Sadler, rhp

I believe that Lincecum, Sanchez, Wilson, and Frandsen have too much ML experience to be on the list again, but Schierholtz and Lewis are still eligible.

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by EliminateMe on Dec 11, 2007 11:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
Fred had 157 AB last year; I'm pretty sure the cutoff is 130, so he's not eligible.
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by jponry on Dec 11, 2007 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
Hrm, I found a site that gave 300 PAs as the cutoff, but on closer reading I see that's their own threshold, not BA's. A commenter on the Sons of Steve Garvey site says 150 PAs. That would mean Lewis (and Ortmeier) aren't eligible, but Schierholtz (117 PAs) still is.
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by EliminateMe on Dec 11, 2007 12:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
Actual Sons of Steve Garvey?  So there are thousands of them?

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Dec 12, 2007 8:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
if he is still a prospect he has to be rather high on that list as well.
I HATE BRIAN SABEAN!

by camwoody on Dec 11, 2007 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
I'll guess:
  1. Angel Villalona
  2. Henry Sosa
  3. Nate Schierholtz
  4. Tim Alderson
  5. Madison Bumgarner
  6. Nick Noonan
  7. Eugenio Velez
  8. Wendell Fairley
  9. John Bowker
  10. Emmanuel Burriss
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Dec 11, 2007 11:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
Maybe flip MB and Alderson. Otherwise, I'm on board.

by KCE on Dec 11, 2007 11:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
My entry:
  1. Villalona
  2. Bumgarner
  3. Schierholtz
  4. Alderson
  5. Noonan
  6. Lewis
  7. Burriss
  8. Bowker
  9. Velez
  10. Fairley
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by EliminateMe on Dec 11, 2007 11:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
If Lewis is ineligible (per discussion above) bump up the 7-10 guys and stick Sosa at #10.
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by EliminateMe on Dec 11, 2007 12:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
Now that it's proverbially on...
  1. Angel Villalona
  2. Madison Bumgarner
  3. Nate Schierholtz
  4. Nick Noonan
  5. Tim Alderson
  6. Henry Sosa
  7. Eugenio Velez
  8. John Bowker
  9. Wendell Fairley
  10. Jackson Williams
    Sandoval
"When Jackson Williams thinks of how many times Madison Bumgarner has tried to kill Tyler Walker..."

by multiphasic on Dec 11, 2007 11:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
youth before beauty.
1 - Angel Villalona 8/13/1990
2 - MadBum 8/1/89
3 - Tim Alderson  11/3/88
4 - Nate Schierholtz 2/15/85
5 - Burris, Manny 1/17/85
6 - Nick Noonan 5/4/89
7 - Brian Anderson 5/25/83
8 - Sergio Romo 3/4/83
9 - John Bowker 7/8/83
10 - Henry Sosa 7/28/85

HonMent: Culberson

I used age and level reached as tie-breakers. For the actual rankings, I pretended to go according to a combination of draft position, performance so far and projection, but i don't really know anything about that stuff.

by kennv on Dec 11, 2007 2:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
I also used the tactic of completely forgetting to put Wendell Fairley in the list. It was a useful tactic because I don't know who I would bump.  Add him to the HonMent list..

by kennv on Dec 11, 2007 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA Top Ten Mastermind
  1. Big V
  2. Mad Bum
  3. Tim2
  4. Noooooooooan!
  5. Sosa
  6. Schierholtz
  7. Burriss
  8. Tanner
  9. Fairley
  10. Velez
Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Dec 11, 2007 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Separate diary for where we think Velez will place?
Rajai Davis: fast.

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Dec 11, 2007 10:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I approve of this comment. :)
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by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2007 12:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
My Guess:
  1. Henry Sosa
  2. Angel Villalona
  3. Nate Schierholtz
  4. Madison Bumgarner
  5. Tim Alderson
  6. Nick Noonan
  7. John Bowker
  8. Joey Martinez
  9. Wendell Fairley
  10. Manny Burriss

by Cainer on Dec 11, 2007 11:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I meant to reply to BA Top Ten Mastermind

by Cainer on Dec 11, 2007 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Joey Martinez is a personal favorite because he gave my son pitching lessons a few years ago but no way is he on any top ten list. Given his age and league, he may not be on a lot of Top 50 lists.

by NearestNorwich on Dec 11, 2007 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I don't think he has much of a chance, since he was still in high A at 24, but he does sport a nifty 4.5-to-1 K/BB ratio in his minor-league career.

You have to respect that.

by wcw on Dec 11, 2007 10:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ill play!
I might be really off on these, but it's worth a try!  I am sure I either forgot someone or put someone who does not belong.  Oh well

1)Angel Villalona 3b
2)Madison Bumgarner LHP
3)Emmanuel Burriss SS
4)Nick Noonan SS
5)John Bowker OF
6)Tim Alderson RHP
7)Eugenio Velez 2b
8)Wendell Fairley OF
9)Sergio Romo RHP
10)Henry Sosa RHP

Honorable Mention:
Benjamin Snyder RHP
Andy D'Alessio 1b
Clayton Tanner RHP
Billy Sadler RHP

by krazybalr on Dec 11, 2007 11:17 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Ill play!
is Schierholtz still considered a prospect?? If so heres my updated list!

1)Angel Villalona 3b
2)Nate Schierholtz OF
3)Madison Bumgarner LHP
4)Emmanuel Burriss SS
5)Nick Noonan SS
6)John Bowker OF
7)Tim Alderson RHP
8)Eugenio Velez 2b
9)Wendell Fairley OF
10)Henry Sosa RHP

Honorable Mention:
Benjamin Snyder RHP
Andy D'Alessio 1b
Clayton Tanner RHP
Billy Sadler RHP
Sergio Romo RHP

by krazybalr on Dec 11, 2007 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
My list (which is not what I think their list will be, but those who I see as having the highest present values):
  1. Schierholtz -- major-league-ready or very close, which trumps the 17-year-old who's five years away
  2. Villalona -- potential superstar, but he has a half-decade to flame out
  3. Misch -- major-league-ready end-of-the-rotation starter trumps potential pitching stars in rookie ball
  4. Tanner -- he's a long ways off, but I see him as a potential poor man's Andrew Miller
  5. Sosa -- worries about his walk rates push him down; top-3 if he develops control
  6. Bumgarner -- purely on potential; handedness trumps Alderson's stuff
  7. Noonan -- his bat is real, but needs to stick in the middle infield
  8. Fairley -- purely on potential; need I mention how weak the system is?
  9. Alderson -- clearly outclassed rookie ball, but almost no track record
  10. Sandoval -- not usually mentioned, but if he can catch, he should be; no star, but handled high-A at age 21 and showed developing power
HM: Bowker, Velez, Culberson, Pichardo, Denker

by wcw on Dec 11, 2007 11:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
  1. Villalona
  2. Alderson
  3. Bumgarner
  4. Schierholtz
  5. Noonan
  6. Sosa
  7. Velez
  8. Burriss
  9. Wilson
  10. Fairley
multiphasic, you're going to total all these up and declare a winner, right? preferably in that order?

by Evan on Dec 11, 2007 11:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Ze vinner is ze American people.
"When Jackson Williams thinks of how many times Madison Bumgarner has tried to kill Tyler Walker..."

by multiphasic on Dec 11, 2007 11:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
In Soviet Union, Prospects rank you

by zenbitz on Dec 11, 2007 12:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I'm gonna cheat offa KIG's list ...swapping out Nate and notaBum..

by DaStick on Dec 11, 2007 11:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
psst (assuming you mean me)... it's JP here. ;)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Dec 11, 2007 4:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
ok no more kig, but only if I can call ya 'onry' ;)

by DaStick on Dec 12, 2007 4:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
  1. V
  2. Mad Bum
  3. Alder
  4. Noonie
  5. Sosa
  6. Velez
  7. Nate
  8. Joaquin
  9. Fairley
10.Sandoval

Best Hit for Average: Noonie
Best for Power: V
Best SZ Discipline: Horwitz
Fastest: Velez
Best FB: Mad Bum
Best CV: Alder
Best SL: Waldis
Best CH: Romo
Best CTL: Alder
Best Def Catcher: Sando
Best Def Infielder: Burriss
Best Inf Arm: Culberson
Best Def Outfielder: Fairley

Best OF Arm: Fairley

Zealously advocating for Nate the Great since 2007.

by orangeandblackattack on Dec 11, 2007 11:49 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Dr B's Provisional Top 10
Have't finalized my own list yet, but here's how it's penciled in:
  1. Angel V
  2. Nate
  3. Sosa
  4. Madison Bumgarner
  5. Tim Alderson
  6. Wendell Fairley
  7. Nick Noonan
  8. John Bowker
  9. Waldis Joaquin
10 Wilbur Bucardo

by DrBGiantsfan on Dec 11, 2007 11:52 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Dr B's Provisional Top 10
Really?  After all the man-love BA laid on Velez, you think he won't even crack a top-ten?

Then again, I remember last year, where I got absolutely clobbered when EME and Marcus Sanders both made surprise appearances.

"When Jackson Williams thinks of how many times Madison Bumgarner has tried to kill Tyler Walker..."

by multiphasic on Dec 11, 2007 12:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Dr B's Provisional Top 10
Well, I still won though.
"When Jackson Williams thinks of how many times Madison Bumgarner has tried to kill Tyler Walker..."

by multiphasic on Dec 11, 2007 12:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Dr B's Provisional Top 10
Playing with yourself is fun, isn't it?
I got one word for you: "youneverknow"

by senorvegas on Dec 11, 2007 12:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Dr B's Provisional Top 10
Oh come on! "Playing with yourself is fun, isn't it?"... Goofus should be all over this.
"They invented the All-Star game for Willie Mays" - Ted Williams

by Cookyman on Dec 11, 2007 3:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Dr B's Provisional Top 10
Sanders was not on last year's top 10, you must be thinking of the year before.
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by EliminateMe on Dec 11, 2007 12:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Clarify
This list is my Provisional Top 10, not what I think BA's is going to be.  I'm reallly terrible at predicting that kind of stuff.

by DrBGiantsfan on Dec 12, 2007 7:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
  1. Villalona
  2. Alderson
  3. Nate
  4. Sosa
  5. Noonan!
  6. Mad Bum
  7. Bowker
  8. Tanner
  9. Wendell Fairley
  10. Manny Burriss
Bonds stands alone.

by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2007 12:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Even though I know nothing more than
what you guys tell me here, I always love a good competition.
  1. V
  2. Nate
  3. Sosa
  4. Bumgarner
  5. Alderson
  6. Noonan
  7. Velez
  8. Bowker
  9. Fairley
  10. Buriss
Giant Expectations

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2007 12:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
My guess at BA's list, not my list:
  1. Villalona
  2. Bumgarner
  3. Schierholtz
  4. Alderson
  5. Velez
  6. Noonan
  7. Fairley
  8. Burriss
  9. Bowker
  10. Tanner

by Grant on Dec 11, 2007 12:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I'll play:
  1. Angel Villalona (given BA's youth fetish)
  2. Henry Sosa (ditto)
  3. Nate Schierholtz (assuming he's eligible)
  4. Tim Alderson
  5. Madison Bumgarner
  6. John Bowker
  7. Nick Noonan
  8. Wendell Fairley
  9. Sergio Romo (gotta hope for my guy)
  10. Andy D'Alessio
The SF Giants: agressively promoting young talent since 2008.

by Lyle on Dec 11, 2007 12:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Like Grant, this is my guess for BA; not my personal list. And I realized Andy doesn't fit the BA youth-trumps-all motif, so I'm pretty sure I screwed that one up. C'est la vie!
The SF Giants: agressively promoting young talent since 2008.

by Lyle on Dec 11, 2007 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Do-Over
I'll replace #10 with Manny Burriss.
The SF Giants: agressively promoting young talent since 2008.

by Lyle on Dec 12, 2007 6:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
 1) Villalona
 2) Sosa
 3) Schierholtz
 4) Bumgarner
 5) Bowker
 6) Velez
 7) Romo
 8) Fairley
 9) Buriss
10) Noonan

by Scottsdale on Dec 11, 2007 12:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Hey, I'll give it a shot.
  1.  Angel Villalona -- Manchild.
  2.  Tim Alderson -- Timmy Two.  Five great innings
  3.  Nate Schierholtz -- Major-league ready
  4.  Mad Bum -- Picked in same slot at Tim Lincecum
  5.  Wendell Fairley -- Potential five-tooler
  6.  John Bowker -- Could surpass Nate.
  7.  Nick Noonan -- Can he remain at shortstop?
  8.  Henry Sosa -- How high can he rise?
  9.  Clayton Tanner -- Very good until he wore out.
  10. Sergio Romo -- Dislike motion, love results
Sleeper:  Waldis Joaquin -- Is he healthy?

Notable omissions:  Manny Burriss and Eugenio Velez -- No-pop Manny and strike out Eugenio.  Manny in particular would make my top 20, although I'm skeptical.

by sharksrog on Dec 11, 2007 12:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
In re: Joaquin -- he wasn't, but he might be next year.  A name I watch, anyhow.

by wcw on Dec 11, 2007 10:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BA's list, not mine:
  1. Big V
  2. Nate the Great
  3. Sosa
  4. Velez
  5. MadBum
  6. Alderson
  7. Noonan
  8. Bowker
  9. Fairly
  10. Burriss
I would like my McCovey bucks in cash.
"They invented the All-Star game for Willie Mays" - Ted Williams

by Cookyman on Dec 11, 2007 12:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's list, not mine:
The 10,000 to 1 exchange rate's gonna kill ya.
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by EliminateMe on Dec 11, 2007 1:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's list, not mine:
5 teenagers. wow.
Bonds stands alone.

by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2007 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's list, not mine:
Well we pretty much have a black hole between A ball and AAA/MLB, so most of our talent is extremely young.  
"They invented the All-Star game for Willie Mays" - Ted Williams

by Cookyman on Dec 11, 2007 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's list, not mine:
agreed. this team will be decent in 6 years.
Bonds stands alone.

by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2007 3:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's list, not mine:
This what happens when you don't draft at all, then use 5 of the six picks you got on high schoolers.
"They invented the All-Star game for Willie Mays" - Ted Williams

by Cookyman on Dec 11, 2007 3:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
   1. Villalona
   2. Bumgarner
   3. Schierholtz
   4. Alderson
   5. Sosa
   6. Noonan
   7. Burriss
   8. Fairley
   9. Velez
  10. Bowker

by mxmob33 on Dec 11, 2007 12:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Oh amn since evryone is doing it

1)Big V
2)Nate Schierholtz
3)Sosa
4)Noonan
5)Bumgarner
6)Bowker
7)Alderson
8)Romo
9)Buriss
10)Sandoval

Your 2010 NL rookie of the year,... Andy D'alessio

by ramirez415 on Dec 11, 2007 2:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
This went nowhere on my original post.For the benefit of those readers who lack the interest or patience to read the entire prospect analysis, I have summarized my ranking below. As an added bonus, since I have the 25th Anniversary Edition of Animal House playing while I write this, I have assigned to each of the prospects their Delta Tau Chi pledge name. You'll need to read the full article to understand many of them, but not all.

The Top 30 List

  1. Nate Shierholtz Age 24 Exp 4- MLB (`Swinger")
  2. Angel Villalona Age 17 Exp1 - A- ("Babyphat")
  3. Henry Sosa Age 22 Exp 2 A+ ("Hammer")
4.Tim Alderson Age 18 Exp 1 R ("Jaywalk")
5.Madison Bumgarner Age 18 Exp 0 DNP("MIA")
6.John Bowker Age 24 Exp 4 AA ("Skitzo")
7. Pat Misch Age 26 Exp 5 MLB ("BusRide")
8.Clayton Tanner Age 20 Exp 2 A ("Pinto")
9.Manny Burriss Age 23 Exp 2 A+ ("Scooter")
10. Pablo Sandoval Age 21 Exp 4 A+ ("Squats")
11.Waldis Joaquin Age 21 Exp 3 A- ("Elbows")
12.Merkin Valdez Age 26 exp 6 AAA ("PostageDue")
13. Wendell Fairley Age 20 Exp 0 DNP ("Wonder")
14.Billy Sadler Age 26 Exp 5 AAA ("Wander")
15.Kevin Pucetas Age 22 Exp 2 A ("AwardShow")
16.Nick Noonan Age 19 Exp1 A- ("Caddyshack")
17.Kelvin Pichardo Age 22 Exp 4 AA ("Rebate")
18.Eugeneo Velez Age 26 Exp 4 MLB ("FreeCouch")
19.Sharlon Schoop Age 21 Exp 3 A ("Flounder")
20. Osiris Matos Age 23 Exp 5 AA (can't think of anything cooler than Osiris)
21.Wilber Bucardo Age 20 Exp 1 A- ("Mr.Ed")
22.Marcus Sanders Age 22 Exp 4 A ("MashUnit")
23. Eric Threets Age 26 Exp 6 MLB ("Plutonium")
24.Eddy Martinez-Esteve Age 24 Exp 4 AA("Band-Aid")
25.Brian Anderson Age 25 Exp 3 AA/AFL("Lowball")
26.Brian Horwitz Age 25 Exp 4 AAA ("Slappy")
  1. Sergio Romo Age 25 Exp 3 A+/AFL ("Junkball")
  2. Justin Hedrick Age 26 Exp 4 AA ("Primetime")
29.Nick Pereira Age 25 Exp 3 AAA ("Aftershave")
30 (tie).Clay Timpner Age 25 Exp 4 AAA("Yo-Yo")
30 (tie)Jesse English Age 23 Exp 6 A+ ("Zombie"

by prospecthound on Dec 11, 2007 5:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
..must say, I love English as 'Zombie' -- but then I have long argued on the Giants newsgroup that the team needs to bring back the zombified corpse of Carl Hubbell.

He'll teach the kids to throw strikes.

by wcw on Dec 11, 2007 10:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
i dont think Noonan, Burriss, Velez, Sandoval or Bowker belong in any Top 10's and not sure the point in listing Schierholtz (or Misch, F.Lewis,etc.)

by slojoe on Dec 11, 2007 4:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
How can Noonan and Bowker possibly not be on the Giants top 10 list?
Dave Righetti: You Know You Want It. / Also, my blog. For writers.

by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2007 4:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
maybe Noonan at 10(probably shouldnt have included him), but Bowker is still a stretch off of 1 good year...

by slojoe on Dec 11, 2007 4:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

John Boy Bowker
It was better than good and at AA no less.

by wilriv21 on Dec 11, 2007 4:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: John Boy Bowker
ok, could see him at 9-10 i guess...thought there was more to choose from...Bowker was almost off the map before last year

by slojoe on Dec 11, 2007 4:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I think you underestimate how thin the Giants system is right now.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Dec 11, 2007 4:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
you're right..more difficult than i thought..

ill try  #1 - Villalona
          2 - Alderson
          3 - Bumgarner
          4 - H. Sosa
          5 - W. Fairley
          6 - S. Romo
          7 - Tanner
          8 - W. Joaquin
          9 - B. Snyder
         10 - Noonan

  also K Pichardo...

 might look better with Bowker at #9 though

by slojoe on Dec 11, 2007 4:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I think you over estimate how thin the Giants farm system is.

by prospecthound on Dec 11, 2007 5:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Well, I meant more in the upper minors, if slojoe apparently thought that neither Noonan nor Bowker were anywhere near our top 10 prospects. I think the lower levels of our minor league system look very nice, but we'll have to see where that goes. I'm actually pretty happy with how our minor league system is rebuilding itself, but it's all a few years away.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Dec 11, 2007 6:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I guess we're going to have to agree to agree then. I think the farm is pretty deep, but the impact players are all in A ball, mostly low A.  

by prospecthound on Dec 11, 2007 6:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
'Deep' is for systems like the Reds have.

This system is thin.

by wcw on Dec 11, 2007 10:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
i first thought Noonan and Bowker should be around #15 or so..then i actually looked at the list of avail., and its not easy to come up with 10 better, so i guess you guys are right

by slojoe on Dec 11, 2007 7:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Bowker I can understand.  No matter how well he did it was in just 1 year.  

But Noonan?  What's not to like?  

Zealously advocating for Nate the Great since 2007.

by orangeandblackattack on Dec 11, 2007 8:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
  1. Big V
  2. Nate Schierholtz
  3. Henry Sosa
  4. Bumgardner
  5. Tim Alderson
  6. Nick Noonan
  7. Wendell Fairly
  8. Bowker
  9. Velez
  10. Romo
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.

by Aadik on Dec 11, 2007 4:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
BA's list, but definitely not mine:
  1. Angel Villalona - BA still nut themselves over him.
  2. Tim Alderson - At least one guy at BA was nutting all over him, too.
  3. Nate Schierholtz - Close to the majors earns this spot, but it wouldn't shock me if he falls down a few spots.
  4. Henry Sosa - I'm not nearly this high on him, but BA loved the step forward he took this year.
  5. Madison Bumgarner - Too much talent to not place high.
  6. Wendell Fairly - Too young to not place high.
  7. Clayton Tanner - Youth again moves up.
  8. Wilber Bucardo - I'm going for the surprise guy here.
  9. Ben Snyder - Hopefully his HWB performance didn't hurt him.
  10. Pat Misch - Too close, and too good looking to ignore.
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by BruteSentiment on Dec 11, 2007 4:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Wendell Fairly isn't too young, at least not compared to some of the other players on your list.  He'll be 20 years old before next season starts.

by Cainer on Dec 11, 2007 5:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Man I'd love for Bucardo to get some props from BA.
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 11, 2007 8:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
1 - Villalona. No Brainer
2 - Sosa. Henry, not Carlos
3 - Bumgardner.
4 - Alderson. I think BA loves this draft.
5 - Noonan.
6 - Schierholtz. I'm not sure he qualifies in BA's mind
7 - Tanner. Young and Left handed.
8 - Bowker. Could be as high as 4.
9 - Fairley.
10 - Burriss.
"But I AM a stepchild!"-Pedro Feliz

by Smotheredinhugs on Dec 11, 2007 6:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
4 - Alderson. I think BA loves this draft.

I think I love this draft, and that's without Bumgarner or Fairly taking the field. I'm just silly irrational about Alderson, and Noonan's showing was impressive for a kid right out of high school.

by Grant on Dec 11, 2007 7:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
Noooooooooooooooonan!

I'm happy to be the assistant conductor on the Noonan train! If he doesn't pan out, I'm going to be pretty disappointed. I don't think I can be the main conductor of the train because I don't follow the minors particularly well, and I think conductor's been called already.

But I can totally assist. Watch:

Noooooooooooooooonan!

That's the sound of the horn on the Noonan Train. All aboard!

Dave Righetti: You Know You Want It. / Also, my blog. For writers.

by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2007 10:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

S-M-R-T
I kept thinking you were yelling Noooo! out of frustration.

Then I would read the rest of the post and be like "Well that's pretty positive.  Why is he yelling no?"  Then I would go back to the top and restart this process.

I think I did this about six times.  I am so smart.

Steve Kline: How okay is he, really? I would say he is pretty okay.

by groug on Dec 11, 2007 10:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Guess for BA
  1. Villalona
  2. Schierholtz
  3. Bumgarner
  4. Sosa
  5. Alderson
  6. Noonan
  7. Velez
  8. Fairley
  9. Bowker
  10. Tanner
Also, after the BA list is posted, we could each total up our own points and post them to make compilation easier.

by Dan from NM on Dec 11, 2007 6:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I didn't think this was worth its own diary and this is kind of sort of related to prospects, so:

After loving on Dick Tidrow in the other diary for allegedly nixing the Lincecum trade, I just google image searched him and HOLY SHIT I DID NOT KNOW HE WAS SO EPIC.

That's a Sal Fasano level of epic right there, people.

~♥~♥DICK TIDROW♥~♥~

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Dec 11, 2007 6:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
That's exactly how he looked when he played, although he may have lost some weight (probably from the stress of trying to talk sense into folks making personnel "decisions"(

BB

All those Giants fans down in Giants land love that Crazy Crab!

by BlackDougal on Dec 12, 2007 6:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
  1. Villalona
  2. Schierholtz
  3. Alderson
  4. Noonan
  5. Sosa
  6. Velez
  7. Tanner
  8. Romo
  9. Bowker
  10. Burriss
including someone who has yet to throw a pitch in pro ball or make a plate appearance in pro ball makes me all itchy, hence why no MadBum, Fairley, etc. Plus, I've only seen one of these guys play aside from the dudes who were with the big club (Ay-yoo-hey-nee-oh and Nate) and that was Manny B. So a lot of this is just groping around in the dark.

At times like these I really want to do a "watch for" list, just guys I find intriguing and not in the Brian Sabean way. Guys who maybe aren't OMG PROSPECT 4EVAR but interesting, and have a chance of contributing. Or at the very least, giving me something to write about. :)

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 11, 2007 8:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
If I had to bet on a darkhorse for the top10 it would be Culberson, but I would love for Denker or Steve MacFarland to sneak in just for the fleece factor!

by Mr Scruff on Dec 11, 2007 9:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
I almost threw in Culberson on my list. I'm pretty high on him.
Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 11, 2007 9:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
  1. Angel Villalona 3b/1b
  2. Nate Schierholtz of
  3. Henry Sosa rhp
  4. Tim Alderson rhp
  5. Manny Burriss ss
  6. Nick Noonan ss/2b
  7. Madison Bumgarner lhp
  8. Andy D'Alessio 1b
  9. Wendell Fairley of
  10. Kevin Pucetas rhp
Honorable mention: Culberson, Romo, Matos, Bocock, Sandoval, Witter, Snyder, Tanner, Downs

Instant analysis: literally nothing in AAA or AA, but one of the most talent-rich (pending) organizations High-A on down.

it's always noonan somewhere

by sectionop92 on Dec 11, 2007 10:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
  1. Angel Villalona
  2. Nate Schierholtz (if he still qualifies)
  3. Tim Alderson
  4. Madison Bumgarner
  5. Eugenio Velez
  6. Emmanuel Burriss
  7. Henry Sosa
  8. Nick Noonan
  9. John Bowker
  10. Pablo Sandoval
  11. Wendell Fairley (if Scheirholtz doesn't qualify)
I wonder where I should have put Merkin Valdez on that list though...
Coming to you from The Land of Many Beers.

by WalrusMan on Dec 11, 2007 11:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
According to BA, All players who haven't exceeded the major league rookie standards of 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched (without regard to service time) are eligible.

Schierholtz had 112 at bats this season so he is eligible.

by Cainer on Dec 12, 2007 12:17 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
My guess (not necessarily my choice):
  1. Villalona
  2. Alderson
  3. Bumgarner
  4. Sosa
  5. Schierholtz
  6. Velez
  7. Noonan
  8. Fairley
  9. Burriss
  10. Bowker

by GiantFan on Dec 12, 2007 4:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
  1. Villalona - Youth + upside = BA luv.
  2. Scheirholtz - MLB ready after big year.
  3. Alderson - Youth + Stuff + Command...and those glorious few pro innings...
  4. Bumgardner - Top 10 pick
  5. Sosa  
  6. Tanner - interchangable with Sosa IMO.
  7. Noonan - Great pro debut with all-around game. Not that much older than Big V.
  8. Fairley - Crazy tools, gotta be top 10.
  9. Burriss - Bounced back in low A, but a little one-dimentional.
  10. Misch - MLB ready lefty.
  11. Sandoval - One of my favs, but couldn't sneak him in.
Pretty confident in this list. 10-20 are all very close, so I can't go much further with as much confidence. The system is suddenly looking very strong.

by Birdman on Dec 12, 2007 1:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

John Boy Bowker
After a superb 2007 season at AA John Bowker should receive plenty of attention. Here is to hoping he builds upon his 2007 breakout season and gets a call up to The City this year.

by wilriv21 on Dec 12, 2007 5:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: BA's Organization Top Ten Prospects
We should pawn off Sosa. He's overvalued by BA and was in the futures game, I think his value is as high as it's ever going to be right now.

by BradIsMyBrother on Dec 14, 2007 2:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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