Matt Garza For Delmon Young Blockbuster Close
This is a joke right?
I know we can put together a package better than that.
Say Lowry, Velez, and Hennessey???
I don't know, just thought I'd see if anyone has any more info about this rumor or if anyone else feels like the Twins are pillaging the Rays.
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Re: Matt Garza For Delmon Young Blockbuster Close
Twins def pillaged?
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Sanchez /= Garza, not even close
Jason Bartlett isn't small shakes either.
This is a pretty solid deal for both teams.
by awesomer @ McCovey Chronicles on Nov 28, 2007 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
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I think this was a very fair trade for both sides, perhaps a BIT in the Twins' favor. Not entirely sure.
Just a year ago,
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by howtheyscored on Nov 29, 2007 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
ML trading is back
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by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Nov 28, 2007 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
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Absolutely one of the classic comics ever. Then they turned it into a shirt!
i wish they'd also make on of happy ladies with steaks.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Nov 30, 2007 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
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And Jason Bartlett is already a better than average major league shortstop. It's really not such a heist.
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Also, Bartlett just turned 28 so he's no tyke. He OPSed a cool .700 in his first full year so what makes him so shiny?
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Lowry, meanwhile, has had an increasing walk rate and a decreasing K rate for the last 3 years, to the point that he walked as many as he struck out last year. I'm not saying he doesn't have any trade value. But he doesn't have any trade value to a smartly run organization like the Devil Rays, who already had 4 starters better than Noah Lowry even before this trade (Price, Kazmir, Shields, Niemann).
Jason Bartlett is nothing to write home about, especially after 2007, but in 2006 he had an OPS of .760 (including an OBP of .367) while playing above-average defense in a tough AL Central. The Rays were one of the worst teams in the baseball last year turning balls in play into outs, and Bartlett should help that.
A league average shortstop at major league minimum? I'll take two, please.
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by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Nov 29, 2007 7:23 AM PST up reply actions
I used my last pick to take Tim Lincecum at $1
by awesomer @ McCovey Chronicles on Nov 29, 2007 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
What makes Bartlett so shiny?
Defensively, he is very good, about 10 runs above average.
So in total, offense and defense, slightly, 0-5 runs above average. This is before adjusting for the fact that he plays SS. If you're conservative, give him 5 runs for playing SS, and he is 5-10 runs above average, 0.5 to 1 win above average. A more aggressive adjustment, 10 runs for playing SS, and he is 10-15 runs above average, 1-1.5 wins above average.
To cap this, he has only 2 years of service time. So, an average to above average player earning a bargain salary. Shiny.
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IMO, without doing more research
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If the deal was for Young alone, I still think the Twins in this deal ... never mind getting a future centerfielder of the future and an adaquate middle infield backup in harris.
nice more Billy Smith
by jfucsd10 @ McCovey Chronicles on Nov 28, 2007 1:14 PM PST reply actions
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Steroid suspension notwithstanding, I'd be shocked if the Rays FO wasn't able to flip Rincon for something pretty useful, considering how teams tend to wildly overvalue proven relief pitching.
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However, Matt Garza was just about a step below Homer Bailey prospect-wise. He did nothing in his first season to disappoint really and he's still one of the better young pitchers. The dude has the cieling of a dominant one, may end up a very good two.
The rays said they wanted another shortstop to challenge brignac for the shortstop job next year. Bartlett is cost controlled, great defensively and though he has the pop of a flan in a cupboard, he's still a valuable player. They may move brignac to second and play that combo up the middle with Longoria and Pena on the wings. That's a good infield.
As far as the future centerfielder of the future who would actually probably step in and start in center, he's actually about the same type of player as Torii Hunter. Probably more walks and not quite as good defense.
This is a good move for both teams, but i think Smith has the upper hand in this one.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Nov 28, 2007 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3131988&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 29, 2007 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
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Sets up a great winter meetings
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- Santana has one year left on his contract and he might opt to hit the market if he cant get Zito+ dollars.
- Santana cooled off for much of August and September. Maybe a concern, maybe not.

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