Hall of Fame Position on Barry's 756 Ball
I wrote to the Hall of Fame a while back expressing my dissatisfaction with their participaton in Ecko's defacement of the #756 ball (copy of my message below):
Department:
info@baseballhalloffame.org
Subject:
Home Run Ball #756
Question and/or Comment:
I am very perturbed that the Baseball Hall of Fame is participating in the very public "attention grabbing" situation with Mr. Ecko. As a museum, it should be about preserving pieces of baseball history as memorabilia. Participating in Mr. Ecko's scheme to deface the ball in question for the sole purpose of making attention grabbing headlines and making a statement about his feelings about Mr. Bonds is very distasteful on the museum's part. The right thing to do by the Hall of Fame would've been to inform Mr. Ecko that you would accept the ball as long as it was intact and not defaced. It is shameful for the museum to be involved in this publicity stunt. The Board of Directors of this museum should apologize to the public for getting involved in this.
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Below is the Hall of Fame's response:
Dear Friend:
Thank you for your letter regarding Barry Bonds' 756th home run baseball which is being donated to the museum. Thank you for taking the time to express your views and we apologize for the delay in returning a reply.
We understand your consternation in the Museum accepting this donation, but we strongly believe it is a relevant and important artifact that belongs in Cooperstown. As an American history museum, our core mission is to tell the story of baseball history, both in the context of how it unfolds on the field, and also as it relates to American culture.
As you know, the baseball from Bonds' 756th home run is being donated with an asterisk affixed to it. We do not condone defacing artifacts and would have preferred the baseball be donated in its natural state. We were willing to look beyond that in this instance, because of the historical relevance connected to the baseball. We will explain why it is defaced and what led to it being donated to the Museum in that condition.
In our opinion, the baseball speaks to many significant parallels between baseball and culture in 2007, some of which include: a representation of baseball fans' sentiments about the home record, for a one-week period in September 2007; a symbol of the adversity Barry Bonds had to endure in passing Hank Aaron to become the all-time home run champion, and; the passion baseball fans have for baseball history, as evidenced by the popularity of the online poll, in which 10 million votes were cast during a one-week period.
When this artifact is eventually donated and placed on display in the Museum, the entire story -- from when the baseball left Barry Bonds' bat and ended up in Cooperstown -- will be presented fairly and balanced with facts and not supposition: We share baseball history through exhibits and let our visitors interpret their own feelings.
Additionally, please know we have several other artifacts graciously donated by Barry Bonds from his career, including his historic 755th and 756th home runs.
We hope this sheds some light into our thinking. Thanks again for sharing your opinion, which we value.
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Re: Hall of Fame Position on Barry's 756 Ball
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Pardon me, but I've heard this fair and balanced bullshit once before. By any chance is an ex-Fox News suit or born-again Republican the head of the Hall of Fame?!?
As a matter of fact...
that observation of yours was a little too accurate to be a guess, right?
by nick @ McCovey Chronicles on Nov 2, 2007 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Re: As a matter of fact...
by PacBellBoozer on Nov 2, 2007 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 2, 2007 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
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Because if I just started an all-out flame war with nothing but a snarky comment regarding the usage of "fair and balanced" than I fear for what this place is becoming.
For the record, it's appropriate to discuss both a poster and Dwight cutting their unit while peeing into a soda can, but it isn't right to make a perfectly valid comment about the leadership in this country? Is that correct?
by PacBellBoozer on Nov 2, 2007 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
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by nick @ McCovey Chronicles on Nov 3, 2007 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
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I really don't get it. If they mean the ball, they're full of shit, because Bonds didn't donate either one. If they mean the homeruns, they're full of shit because you can't donate or have a literal moment in time preserved in a museum.
Who wrote that response letter? Can they be shot? I mean shot with the "smart" gun. I think they could use it.
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by PacBellBoozer on Nov 2, 2007 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
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-Vardibidian.
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That's perfectly in line with the other comment I got about the intended meaning of that poorly written sentence, and it makes sense, too. Thanks to both of you for clearing that up for me.
by howtheyscored on Nov 2, 2007 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
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That would be Linguistics that is required major for posting on this site.
by howtheyscored on Nov 2, 2007 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
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I hope the first lesson is all about irony. :)
by BruteSentiment on Nov 2, 2007 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
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by howtheyscored on Nov 2, 2007 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
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A lot of spare time that would otherwise be filled up with power drinking and breathless bonging -- that is the requirement.
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by giantsrainman on Nov 2, 2007 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
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To bad some here think that attacking the grammar of a post is a good way to attack the substance of the post. What all those that do this fail to realize is that using this tactic really just proves that they can not refute the substance of the post.
by giantsrainman on Nov 2, 2007 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Darn if I missed the point again
;-)
Re: Darn if I missed the point again
;-)
by giantsrainman on Nov 2, 2007 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
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And even 30+ years ago, that individual English professor was most likely a jerk more than anything else, not the least of all for failing to understand the difference in academic training between his old students and his new ones, but also for penalizing so heavily, but also not the least of all for failing to recognize content in the first place.
Why do I even care? Whatever. I don't need to defend the study of English. It's not like I can get it any respect anyway. It's the single most looked down upon field of study there is. "So, you want to be a teacher? How cute." "You know you can't do jack with an English degree, right?" "Stop learning about spelling and grammar and do something useful!" "It's not as hard or as worthwhile as math." Whatever. People will think what they think about what I choose to love, and it's not my fault that they base most of that on crap that's been criminally out of date for decades.
by howtheyscored on Nov 2, 2007 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
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You have my appology for the disrespect I have caused you to feel.
by giantsrainman on Nov 2, 2007 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
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by howtheyscored on Nov 2, 2007 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Quit your carping
Re: Quit your carping

by howtheyscored on Nov 2, 2007 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
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We don't want to kill Moggs...just fishwhip him back to "reality".
by PacBellBoozer on Nov 3, 2007 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
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Head Up
At that point he offered to come speak to my classes as well, though I politely declined. Anyway, I'm not sure if that helps, but it can be a pretty good comeback when all else fails, I've found, if someone wants a practical reason for why English matters.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Nov 3, 2007 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 2, 2007 9:10 PM PDT reply actions
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Apparently Ecko was going to have the ball branded so that the mark could not be removed.
It really saddens me that some yahoo prick wants to make some sort of silly statement about the steroids issue by doing this. The item is *baseball history*, and for that reason alone should not be marked in any way prior to going into the Hall.
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I know it won't ever happen that way because the asterisk will be the biggest tourist attraction the Hall had since, I don't know, Ted Williams's head... but really...
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It's that arrogance on his part that really steams me----that he would have that much disrespect to the point where he felt the need to make some sort of stupid point.
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It was a publicity stunt, no more, no less. Could it be that he was looking for a way to get his mug on the tele (for relatively cheap, no less) for the better part of a week or two while making what I find an interesting commentary on modern day memorabilia?
HE GOT YOU TALKING ABOUT HIS BRAND AND THAT'S ALL HE WAS TRYING TO DO! For quite some time, when people hear the name Mark Ecko, they'll make an instant connection with that piece of rawhide. As many of the drugged up Hollywood starlets can attest...sometimes bad publicity is better than no publicity at all.
by PacBellBoozer on Nov 3, 2007 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
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by VidaWantsYourCar on Nov 3, 2007 9:15 AM PDT reply actions
as history buff...
Couldn't they hide the asterisk?
It seems to me that showing the ball with the asterisk could encourage future acts of douche baggery.
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For those that think Ecko's stunt is shameful, it pales in comparison to racially segregating the game or the black sox scandal, and those parts of the game are well-chronicled at the HoF.
I just hope when they disply the ball, they tell the story of the asterisk from a balanced perspective that includes discussion of the "steroid era" and not just Bonds.
From the HoF's point of view, the defaced ball will probably be much more a point-of-interest and generate much more discussion than it would have been.
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A historical retrospective of the "steroids era" will be necessary - at some point in the future, when time has given us a better perspective on what it really meant. But a minor fashion designer should not be made into an integral part of that, or any other exhibit.

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