More Eugenio Velez stats

by BarryR on Aug 22, 2006 2:44 PM PDT

I found some stats on him for 2004, but nothing before that on two different minot league teams. One he didn't play much on, must have been called up later or something. He shows up at the bottom of the batter list for each team. It does look like he's having a career minor league season at least this year.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/Stats/stats_Rapp_pul.shtml

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/Stats/stats_Anyp_aub.shtml

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Re: More Eugenio Velez stats

he seems kind of old (24 y/o in A ball) to be consider a good prospect, though he is having a pretty good season.

Let me tell you something my friends. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a Giants fan insane.

by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 22, 2006 2:51 PM PDT reply actions

Re: More Eugenio Velez stats

Yeah, he may have only started playing in 2004 for some reason, so not sure why the late start, But anyway, did find a site with photos of him as well.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mwlguide/sets/72057594064998711/

by BarryR on Aug 22, 2006 2:55 PM PDT reply actions

Re: More Eugenio Velez stats

Looks like a ballplayer to me.

One thing you can say, he's doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing against younger competition. Where does he go next year? San Jose?

by mxmob33 on Aug 22, 2006 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: More Eugenio Velez stats

from what I read, the Giants got him in a Rule 5 draft (minor league version) and were going to send him to Fresno, but sent him to Augusta instead, though I don't know why.

It seems like the team in August does have a lot of guys in their early to mid 20's, but I'm not sure if that's just a team thing, or a league wide situation.

Let me tell you something my friends. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a Giants fan insane.

by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 22, 2006 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: More Eugenio Velez stats

Top prospects in the low-A Sally League are typically 19-21 years old, unless they are recently signed draft picks who are college seniors. Any older and they are already getting ripe on the vine for stardom, though still could become a nice journeyman.

Oy, back to the sig that was working better: Go Giants: Winn it all with Feliz

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Aug 22, 2006 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions

I'll repost this here too

Steve was right - he changed his name

http://juniorjays.blogspot.com/

http://thebaseballcube.com/players/V/Eugenio-Vancamper.shtml

The Dodgers are evil.

by irwin on Aug 22, 2006 4:07 PM PDT reply actions

Re: I'll repost this here too

Great find. No wonder I couldn't find more info. since a site I saw, had (Vancomper) after his name and not (Vancamper) and couldn't fid anything more on that name. Maybe he's a late bloomer.

by BarryR on Aug 22, 2006 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I'll repost this here too

His name was Vancamper? Maybe he got tired of being nicknamed 'Beethoven'...

"The first point is whether my brain is still operating...I'll figure that out after the season." - Felipe Alou

by EliminateMe on Aug 22, 2006 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I'll repost this here too

Or "Hovenbeet."

"Mow bwiefings?" "More briefings."

by stobgopper on Aug 22, 2006 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: I'll repost this here too

Wow, and I thought mine was stretching it.

"The first point is whether my brain is still operating...I'll figure that out after the season." - Felipe Alou

by EliminateMe on Aug 22, 2006 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: More Eugenio Velez stats

I know that age is a big question mark on this guy but i'm pretty excited about him. At least he has been a good find for the Giants in the rule 5. If it were up to me I would really try to test him next year and move him either to AA or AAA.

I have a question. When you take a guy in the rule 5 I know your not aloud to move him down, but are you aloud to move him up? Because I've been wondering why the Giants havn't promoted him given his numbers and his age.

by Keenlow on Aug 22, 2006 5:58 PM PDT reply actions

Re: More Eugenio Velez stats

24 years old is old for high-A, let alone low-A, he's dominating because he is that much more experienced and physically developed than the players in that league. If they thought he was any good, he would have been promoted already.

Oy, back to the sig that was working better: Go Giants: Winn it all with Feliz

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Aug 22, 2006 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: More Eugenio Velez stats

Players selected in the minor league portion of the Rule 5 draft, unlike the major league portion, can be assigned any where.

by steve S on Aug 22, 2006 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: More Eugenio Velez stats

What's keeping us from taking the entire D'Back's farm system, then?

by allfrank on Aug 23, 2006 7:37 AM PDT reply actions

Re: More Eugenio Velez stats

Few players with much potential are available in the Rule 5 draft. Players are not eligible for the Rule 5 draft until for the first two or three full seasons (depending upon the player's age when he first signed). A team can protect 40 players on its 40-man roster, and another 35 or so on its AAA roster annother 25 or so on its AA roster. A year ago, the Giants had only about a dozen players whom they could have lost in the double-A portion of the Rule 5 draft, and maybe a third of them ended up being released from the organization during spring training.

by steve S on Aug 23, 2006 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions