Wright out, Sanchez in?
Jamey Wright could officially be history, at least as a starter ... the papers are abuzz about the possibility of pulling him from the rotation. Stuff in the Merc and Chronicle from Wednesday.
The stories infer multiple replacment "options," but the name they zoom in on is Jonanthan Sanchez. As we all know, he's been starting in Fresno. I guess we can thank the Stanton deal for that.
Hennessey gets dismissed as a possiblity because his arm isn't stretched out for the job. Taschner isn't mentioned, but I'll bet the same logic applies.
Would you give the kid his chance, and if so, how long would you wait?
I'm torn. Much as I like Sanchez, I think Hennessey deserves a shot -- call it an irrational, playground-like sense of fairness. And while Sanchez has shown ice-water veins in the majors so far, is he ready to make it through a big-league rotation two or three times?
Wright's next turn in the rotation could conceivably be skipped, since the Giants have today off. So the 5th spot would reappear on Saturday the 19th, if I'm doing the math right. Against the Dodgers, no less.
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Re: Wright out, Sanchez in?
Bring Sanchez up in September.
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But as a fan who is willing to cut the rope with Wright, who was only a stop gap measure in my mind with the potential that we could sell high on him at the trading deadline or offseason, I would welcome Sanchez into the rotation, he has had success at the major league level and a lot of fans are eager to see how he does.
Fair, shmair, if Hennessey was striking out guys left and right while also doing everything else his stats look like, then it would be fairer if he got the first nod, but Sanchez at least is striking out a lot of guys per IP than Brad, nearly double the rate.
How Brad can do well with such a lousy k-rate, well, I'm waiting for the wheel to fall off, few pitchers succeed with rates like that (one with the Giants before, Rueter), and I prefer the strikeout guy, John "the Count" Montefusco remains my gold standard for a pitcher (sad, I know :^): strikeouts and more strikeouts. Then we won't need these gold-glove infielders who can't hit and get some bombers who can hit.
Oh, peeked at his Fangraph stats and his BABIP is lower than low, it should bounce back to .300 and kill his other stat lines, particularly his high walk rate. He's also a little low on homers as well, so that should bump up too. Recipe for disaster.
Not that Sanchez is that much better a picture with his high walk rate and low BABIP as well, but at least he is striking out a lot. Looking at his in-season pattern, he first struck out a lot, dipped as teams figured him out, then pushed his way back to "normal", which is a great sign that he adjusted back against the hitters. I would just rather bet on the strikeout pitcher to do well.
Plus I hope he'll be in the rotation in 2007, 2008 at the latest, so this would be a great audition for him, like it was for Cain last season.
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Aug 10, 2006 12:14 PM PDT reply actions
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by howtheyscored on Aug 10, 2006 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
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A 14 year old boy...
by howtheyscored on Aug 10, 2006 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
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Glavine's wins and the fact that he plays for a NY team makes him a contenda.
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Aug 10, 2006 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
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Voters usually go by W-L, ERA, and K (in that order), and Webb looks like the clear-cut favorite there as well.
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Schmidt doesn't have the wins the voters like, he'll have to win each game going forward to have any chance, but with Webb injured, it is possible.
I think Webb is the front runner now but if he's out for the rest of the season or even a month, he's probably out. Next would be Chris Carpenter and Brad Penny. Schmidt too if he gets the win streak. Pedro would also need a win streak. Carlos Zambrano will get some votes but teams who are losers normally don't get the award, he would have to win the ERA title too to win it.
Maybe they give it to Jeff Francis for having a sub-4 ERA while pitching in Colorado? :^)
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Aug 10, 2006 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
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Don't forget that many times good groundball pitchers have more success the less they try to strikeout every batter they face...see Derek Lowe.
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It makes absolutely zero sense to call up Sanchez because Hennessey's not stretched out. Sanchez has started twice for Fresno - once he didn't make it out of the 2nd inning (throwing 51 pitches total) and the second he threw five innings (74 pitches). Last time Hennessey got a spot start, he went 6 innings and threw 80 pitches.
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Rueter
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by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 10, 2006 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
The...
by howtheyscored on Aug 10, 2006 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Although...
I don't even know anymore
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by EliminateMe on Aug 10, 2006 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Aug 10, 2006 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
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Gets it. ;)
I meant Hennessey - sorry. I see our 2007 rotation as Cain, Lowry, Morris, Hennessey, and Sanchez - with Linecum up by the middle of the year or September. Its time to see if Hennessey can fulfill that role.
I'd rather see Correia...
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by GiantJim on Aug 10, 2006 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
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They have to make up their mind about Benitez, seriously. They should stick Chulk and Correia in the late inning roles right now. And replce Wright with either Hennessey or Correia. Also, I wouldn't mind them sending Wilson down to Fresno and get some closing experience. Start audtiioning for next year's team.
by GiantJim on Aug 10, 2006 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
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Correia might be a good closer for the reason your said, plus he seems capable of inducing a ground ball on occasion. Being able to get both Ks and GIDPs is nice from your closer.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 10, 2006 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Aug 11, 2006 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
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...but since when has that bothered Felipe?
let sanchez learn in AAA
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As for Sanchez, I'd rather wait until next month to call him up to start any games so he can get more starts in the minors first.
by BarryR on Aug 10, 2006 2:35 PM PDT reply actions
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by W8ingForATitle on Aug 10, 2006 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone tell me if my math is wrong
- Both Sanchez and Hennessey were in the bullpen for an extended period of time.
- Hennessey is the long-reliever/emergency starter.
- Sanchez was mostly a one-inning guy.
1 + 2 + 3 = obviously Sanchez is the guy who can handle 5+ innings.
You left one out:
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I prefer Hennessey as the 5th starter. Maybe I agree with Keenlow. Maybe I agree with Wedge on it being the "right" thing to do. Martin, I'm just don't see strikeouts as being the deciding factor in judging a ML pitcher. But I think DrB has already argued with you on that point. And I agree with W8ting about Correia.
Next year, assuming Schmidt wants the ridiculously big bucks, I hope our starters are Cain, Lowry, Morris, Hennessey, & Sanchez. If Schmidt will accept a reasonable offer, I'd leave Sanchez in AAA to start with, then see how he does there; if he does well and one of our big 5 falters or is injured, he's the replacement.
by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Aug 10, 2006 4:40 PM PDT reply actions
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by W8ingForATitle on Aug 10, 2006 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
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Studies have shown that strikeouts matters: the higher the strikeouts, generally, the better the ERA, particularly when combined with controlling walks and having a ratio of at least 2 times the strikeouts than walks given up. That is what the DIPS theory is all about, what the pitcher controls, how he can show skill.
And there's a reason the strikeout king has been celebrated, from Christy Mathewson, to Walter "Big Train" Johnson, to Bob Feller, to Sandy Koufax, to Nolan Ryan, to Roger Clemens.
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Aug 11, 2006 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Aug 10, 2006 4:41 PM PDT reply actions
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by GiantJim on Aug 10, 2006 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Wright is only batting...
Now THAT is depressing.
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You can have all the fellas who pitch 95+ and strike out about a batter per inning - I will take the fella who rolls up wins or at least keeps his club in the game.
And who came up with the term QUALITY START as a pitcher going at least 6 innings allowing 3 runs or fewer? Was it Scott Boras?
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where are you getting your "analysis" from ? You sound like every old-time cliche rolled together.























