Initial reactions
Instant reactions to a baseball draft are pretty much worthless. So, in order to properly enjoy the day, I've forced personal approval of the first day of the draft down my own throat. Here's how I did it:
Part 1 - Tim Lincecum
With a pick in the top third of the draft, you don't want to hear the newfound prospect referred to as a "no. 2 or 3 starter", or, "comparable to Woody Williams". You want pyrotechnics and flash. "Comparable to Mark Prior dipped into the River Styx", or, "Downside is as a no. 1 starter who shoots lightning bolts from his eyeballs." The guy linked to the Giants before the draft, Daniel Bard, was the former. Tim Lincecum is closer to the latter.
The knowledgeable Dave Cameron pegs him as:
It wasn't intended to be a flattering comment, but it gives you an idea of the stuff Lincecum features. Because he has an electric arm and is less than six feet tall, he must by law also be compared to Roy Oswalt. This is the well-documented Larry Bird Corollary, expanded to cover short pitchers in a different sport. This is not to be confused with the Pedro Martinez Conundrum, which covers every skinny Dominican with a changeup and 90+ fastball.
From a purely emotional standpoint, I'd love to see the kid get a chance to relieve for the Giants right away. He could come up and join Jeremy Accardo, Jonathan Sanchez and Brian Wilson as a member of a dominant bullpen for the future and present. It would be the stuff of legends, and maybe a ballpark poster giveaway or two. It would be a hard throwing bunch, to say the least.
That probably wouldn't be the rational thing to do. He's just finished an arduous college campaign that saw him worked like Livan Hernandez. He averaged about 4.5 BB/9, which has to be indicative of some control problems that still need to be ironed out. I wouldn't feel comfortable tossing him into the fire just yet. Plus, his stamina supposedly is an asset, as the talking heads on MLB.com's draft show mentioned he maintained his velocity well into his starts. This means he should be given every chance to start, and given all the time in the world to develop.
He's a risk. Funky delivery. Pretty obvious control problems. Heavy workload. I say Billy Wagner, you say Matt Anderson, but the arm is there. The idea he can help the Giants this year is a little far-fetched, but at least that possibility is in the back of our minds.
Other links (Thanks to DeadTeddy8):
Video of Lincecum
His collegiate stats
Part II - Emmanuel Burriss
Don't know a thing about him. I've seen the 100 seconds of video MLB.com had to offer, and he seemed like he used a baseball bat when at the plate. I'm pretty confident in that assessment. I've convinced myself to dream, though, and forecast the following two hitters atop the San Francisco lineup in 2009:
Marcus Sanders - 2B - .300/.420/.450, 72 SB
Emmanuel Burriss - SS - .290/.410/.440, 60 SB
Likelihood of happening? Just a little better than the Giants drafting Bradford Hinckley-Foster in the 3rd round of the 2024 draft, which would not only require John Hinckley and Jodie Foster to have a kid this year, but to have a kid who is preternaturally gifted in baseball as well. The idea, though, of having speed and on-base talent at the top of the order, and having the offensive production come from the middle infield, is a beautiful dream for sure.
I buy lottery tickets, too. I know the odds, and I'm a rational guy, but I think it's worth a dollar to spend five minutes thinking about what I'd do with the money. Big house. Indoor movie theatre. Outdoor batting cage. I've got plans. That isn't to say Burriss is such a long shot to succeed, that he's analogous to a lottery ticket. It's just pointing out the imagination I can have when wishcasting, and it's why I'm excited about the first two picks of the draft.
I'm curious as to the thoughts of the McCognoscenti. Was there a mid-rounder that caught your eye?
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Re: Initial reactions
by dangjackson on Jun 6, 2006 4:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 4:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 4:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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And also, apparently, insane and hyperactive. Nearest comparison: Dee Dee from "Dexter's Lab".
by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 4:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeez Grant...
Anyways I think Lincecum (did I spell that right?) would be an interesting addition to the bullpen, although perhaps not yet We've got plenty of relievers.
by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2006 4:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Initial reactions
by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 4:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LINCECUM!
I saw this guy pitch against Arizona about a month ago, and all I can say is: GET EXCITED. While he gave up a few runs (including a very loud homer) he found a groove and struck out about 12 guys and looked downright nasty.
He did just come off a season where he threw a lot of innings, so I think he needs to rest now and we shouldn't think of him as a bullpen savior. He can and should be a starter and has the potential to be a very good one. He throws hard, has movement, and features several pitches. I expect to see him break into the rotation next september as a trial, and be on the team full time by 2009, if not sooner.
by wjackalope on Jun 6, 2006 4:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Also a high walk ratio can be a red flag. Certainly it's a deterrent to a fast track up to the big club.
Anyhow, I prefer to be skeptical rather than opitmistic. Because if I'm wrong, as usual, then things are good-great for the Giants.
by GiantJim on Jun 6, 2006 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Aadik on Jun 6, 2006 4:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: ummm
BB
by BlackDougal on Jun 6, 2006 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum and Burriss
- I really hope they eventually try him at starter, but wouldn't mind the old Johan Santana treatment at all.
- 5' 10" 150 lbs + Weird Delivery + 98 mph + Best Curve in College + insane antics like walking around on his hands instead of his feet = Maybe my favorite Giant pitcher ever (if he can bring it).
- I can already see the story in SI during our 2009 World Series winning season about how Lincecum is the tiny insane guy with the cheese, Cain is the big, hefty, stoic guy and Lowry is the charismatic competitive lady's man. They're totally different but they get along because they all love to pitch!
Only other guy who really caught my eye was Rohinger, the SS from Oklahoma. He seemed like he could rake.
by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 4:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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I can already see the sitcom based on their life! It'll be called Three Aces and they'll have wacky adventures together.
by groug on Jun 6, 2006 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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The one in the back, per Wiki, is known as the Rear Admiral. I did not know that.
by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Lowry
Lincecum
Sanchez
Perreira
One can dream.
by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we throw....
by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2006 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Can we throw....
by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Lincecum and Burriss
like this:
Cain
Lincecum
Lowry
Sanchez
Pereira
by kingaro on Jun 8, 2006 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 4:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In fairness
by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: In fairness
by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael McBryde
by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 5:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Michael McBryde
by BleacherEd on Jun 6, 2006 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by EliminateMe on Jun 6, 2006 5:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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I don't understand the pick: Stolp
Pill took a big step forward the past year, although he still fans too much for my liking. Can he keep improving? Paul and Osguera are both lefty pitchers one year removed from serious injuries, who put up great K/9 and K/BB lines the past year. Good bullpen material.
by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 5:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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When does the blog get renamed "Waiting for Gib"?
by BruteSentiment on Jun 6, 2006 5:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Or...
by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2006 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Or...
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by leftymalo on Jun 7, 2006 12:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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I heard he (Lincecum) maintained 98 until the later innings, and recently pitched something ridiculous like 20 innings in 5 days, involving 2 complete games, and a relief effort in between. They were also saying he was doing crazy things like pushups and weight training directly after his starts.
He sounds a bit like Mitch Williams on crack.
Lets hope his arm doesn't blow itself out, as he seems not to have any control of his body or mind. Then again theres no better way of scaring the crap out of hitters by putting a wild high 90's thrower on the mound, especially with a funky delivery. At the very least we could use him as an asassin.
by DaveK on Jun 7, 2006 2:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by covenant on Jun 7, 2006 10:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by groug on Jun 7, 2006 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
more on tanner
by irwin on Jun 7, 2006 3:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by irwin on Jun 7, 2006 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm kinda excited about
by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 7, 2006 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
from ba
--- Sounds good
4 116 SF Ben Snyder lhp Ball State IN
Snyder's older brother Brad is an Indians outfield prospect who went 18th overall in the 2003 draft. Ben won't go that high, but he should go in the first five rounds because he's a classic pitchability lefthander with a strong competitive makeup. His forte is throwing four pitches for strikes. His fastball usually ranges from 85-88 mph and occasionally touches 90, but he can put it where he wants. Even when it sits at 84-86 mph, he gets by with his ability to sink, cut and command it. His curveball is average, and he enhances it by adding and subtracting velocity from it. His changeup is a good weapon, though at 81-82 mph it could use more separation from his fastball. If his changeup doesn't have its normal sink, it gets hit. He also throws a cut fastball that he calls a slider. The top prospect in the Great Lakes League last summer, Snyder has additional bargaining power. He's a draft-eligible sophomore after redshirting in 2004.
--- Sounds like Misch
5 146 SF Michael McBryde of Florida Atlantic FL
-- I kinda like this pick, if they think he can come back from the injury
6 176 SF Ryan Rohlinger ss Oklahoma OK
Rohlinger has been one of the steadiest and most versatile players in the Big 12 for three seasons. He started at second base, shortstop and left field for the Sooners before settling in at third base. He has good bat control and some power, but his bat would fit better at second or short than it would at third in pro ball. A 21st-round selection by the Cardinals in 2005, he'll go much higher as a senior sign this year.
-- As a general rule, I don't like seniors
7 206 SF Brett Pill 1b Cal State Fullerton CA
Scouts haven't warmed to Brett Pill (a Yankees 45th-rounder last year) as had been expected because the tall first baseman has pressed to hit for power and wound up hitting just five homers after slugging nine a year ago. Pill is patient, has plenty of leverage in his swing and is an above-average defender at first base.
-- Not a fan.
10 296 SF Ryan Paul lhp Cal State Fullerton CA
Fullerton's sleeper could be 6-foot-6, 225-pound lefthander Ryan Paul, who came to the Titans out of Pierce Junior College in Los Angeles. Paul has been drafted three times. The Braves took him in the 42nd round in 2002 out of Moorpark High in suburban Los Angeles, and after missing 2003 he was picked again out of Pierce in 2004 (47th round, Mets) and 2005 (28th round, Tigers). He hasn't had a stint longer than two innings all season as the main set-up man to Pestano, but he has shown command of a high-80s fastball and sweepy slider from a low three-quarters slot, and he could improve his stock after taking over the closer role in Pestano's absence.
-- I kinda like this pick - I wonder if he will start or relieve
13 386 SF Brad Boyer 2b Arizona AZ
Infielder Brad Boyer's best attributes are his speed and versatility, as he's played the outfield, second and third base in college. His best bet is to be a utility player.
by irwin on Jun 7, 2006 3:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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