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It kicks off at 10:00 Pacific, and kudos to MLB.com for finally giving fans some access. It isn't going to be necessary to hit refresh 40 times in a round, as they will be announcing the picks here.

Of the people the Giants are rumored to take, I'm a Kyle Drabek fan. However, I was geeked on the kid Parmalee before he was linked to the Giants, so I wouldn't be upset if they reached for him at #10. Either Drabek or Parmalee would suit me fine.

Of course, if one of the top prospects fell -- like Miller, Longoria, or Hochevar -- I would love to see Sabean take a Diamondbacks/Angels approach and nab the best available player, budget be damned.

I'd also like a magic bean that makes me know what I'm talking about when it comes to the amateur draft. It's fun to speculate, though, even if the speculation is wild.

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First Post!
And my wife thought nothing good would come of my being on the Internet this late.

OK, with that out of the way, here are some thoughts:

1.) I love having draft picks. It's nice being able to participate in all the rampant speculation and hope around this time of year.

2.) Daniel Bard is my preference of the folks linked to the Giants. He has a nice combination of present skills-future potential.

3.) I like Kyle Drabek, too, and have heard nothing that would scare me away from him in terms of "makeup." He seems a little riskier, though, than Bard. I'd be thrilled if the Giants took either Bard or Drabek.

4.) I have no problem with Chris Parmelee. By all accounts, it's a weak draft. If Sabean and Tidrow decide the cost isn't worth it for someone else, Parmelee seems like a reasonable choice.

5.) I have no idea what I'm talking about.

by Dan from NM on Jun 6, 2006 12:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would have had the first post...
If I had anything to say....

I can't get excited about many people before they're at least in San Jose.

Dancing Guy #4 turns me on.

by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2006 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: First Post!
i guess drabek does have some makeup problems. remembering reading that he had a public intoxication and crashed his suv into a tree at some point, most likely while DUI. I have no problems with a guy who enjoys a cocktail here and there, and his stuff is supposedly better than his dads. i say roll the dice.
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Can the Giants draft Jessica Alba?
The Dodgers are evil.

by irwin on Jun 6, 2006 1:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
She's already on my fantasy team.
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Drabek for me.  If he fails as a pitcher, he can try to make it as a middle infielder.
Lowry and Cain, then wish for more of the same

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 6, 2006 3:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bard?
Seems like BA is backing off the Parmalee talk a bit, although he may still be a backup plan.  Jim Callis' last mock has the Giants picking Bard at #10 with HS C Max Sapp at #33.  I don't know what to make of Bard.  He looked great early in the season then hit a horrendous slump.  He pitched better down the stretch and pitched much better than Miller in the playoffs over the weekend.  I've seen many scouting reports putting his velocity in the low 90's, but I read a comment about him last night that has him throwing "easy 96 heat."  I think I would prefer Drabek, but who know?

If we take Bard at #10, I would pick a high ceiling HS pitcher like Matt Latos, Caleb Clay or even Dellin Betances at #33, although Betances might still be there at #89.  I know the Giants are very interested in upgrading their organizational catching as well they should be.  I projected Sapp as a darkhorse for #33 so I wouldn't be upset at that.

On a side note, BA has Hank Conger falling to #34.  I wonder if that's because teams don't think he'll stay at catcher of if they think he wants to go to USC.  If it's the latter, I would think he would fall out of the top 5 rounds altogther.

by DrBGiantsfan on Jun 6, 2006 6:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Bard?
Although if you want someone (and I want Conger) I don't know how much of a consideration that should be.  Matt Cain had already signed a commitment to UMemphis when the Giants drafted him. Ishikawa, of course, famously fell to the low rounds because of a college commitment.  Sometimes you lose the HS players to college, but take em and give it your best shot, I'd say.  Frankly, if he's signable, I wouldn't be all that adverse to taking Conger at #10.  A switch hitting catcher with plus power would be a real jewel if he developed.

by Roger on Jun 6, 2006 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Both BA and MLB.com have Andrew Miller sliding past the Giants. I think I'd be pretty bent out of shape if that were to happen.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 9:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mayo latest musings
In today's column he wrote:
10. San Francisco Giants: Daniel Bard, RHP, University of North Carolina
Bard's name has been mentioned more strongly with the Mariners at No. 5, so the Giants may be left with the other college pitchers, though Miller and Lincecum don't make sense. There's been noise of a deal with Chris Parmelee, a high-school bat, but I still like the Giants sticking with their M.O. and going with the big right-hander.
Previous projection: Bard.

According to him too, Drabek now goes to Dodgers at #7 because their target Clayton Kershaw would go to Detroit at #6.

What's wrong with Lincecum anyway?  He seems to be very highly rated as a pitcher, some say he could come to the majors and pitch later this season.  The main complaint I've read is that he has an unusual delivery, however, it hasn't affected him because they also say he has a rubber arm.

Link:  http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20060605&content_id=1489090& vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp

Lowry and Cain, then wish for more of the same

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 6, 2006 9:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
does it piss anybody elsee off that the dodgers are picking ahead of us even though they have this "loaded" farm system?
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 9:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
It pisses me off that they breathe the same air we breathe and share the same earth.  :^)
Lowry and Cain, then wish for more of the same

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 6, 2006 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Drabek's my first choice.  Miller (if he slips) or Parmelee would be fine with me.

I'll be upset if we take Bard.

I'm mostly going to be doing stuff on SFDugout.com, so have fun you guys!

by BruteSentiment on Jun 6, 2006 9:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
MiLB.TV?

Wow, really cashing in on this thing.

(Remember when I said I couldn't get excited about anyone past San Jose?  Yeah well I can't, but I'm bored.)

Dancing Guy #4 turns me on.

by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2006 10:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Hello from the SFDugout.com Draft Day War Room!

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 6, 2006 10:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
The Pacifica kid goes to the Rockies. Oof.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hochevar to the Royals
Reynolds to the Rockies
Longoria to the DRays

by SerpentX on Jun 6, 2006 10:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Damn, for a few minutes I got my hopes up about Miller.

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 10:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Miller to Detroit
Yeah, I'm looking at MLB draft tracker and they seem to be a few minutes ahead of you. LA takes Kershaw.

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how unglamorous
is jimmie lee's job?
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Tigers are going in the right direction, and that was the only pick they could make, in my opinion.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's Lincecum
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 10:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: It's Lincecum
nice call
"Do you want to know the terrifying truth, or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?" Mark McGwire

by MeSoKrabby on Jun 6, 2006 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Man, this pace wipes itself with the NFL's.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
On the Clock...
"Do you want to know the terrifying truth, or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?" Mark McGwire

by MeSoKrabby on Jun 6, 2006 10:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
I can't take this....

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
drabek me
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 10:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lincecum
OK, what do we think? All I've heard is: awesome stuff, horrible mechanics.

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 10:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Hrm. Nostockjustbonds has a better feed than the rest of us.

I'll take it, though.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
I was wondering what took you guys so long.
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
98 in the 9th?
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 10:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Would have rather had Drabek, but Lincecum isn't the safe choice we all were wary of.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
It's hard to believe that Lincecum is any riskier than a high-school pitcher, esp. one with "makeup" problems (though I love that term).

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
I was writing that from a financial POV, but his questionable mechanics (supposedly, like I really know) might make him a questionable pick.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
we've already got a relief pitcher with an oh-so-not-smooth delivery (accardo). am curious to see what tim "freak of nature" lincecum looks like.

by Bred on Albany Hill on Jun 6, 2006 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Sweet! Linecum's college stats were the best of the lot!

by Aadik on Jun 6, 2006 10:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BA has Lincecum as the #2 Draft Prospect
and says:
Lincecum has a resilient arm; he throws constantly, often long-tossing the day after his starts. His unorthodox delivery has been described as resembling a pinwheel as he rocks back, makes his body do most of the work and seemingly brings his lightning-quick arm along for the ride. It gives him deception and tremendous stuff, and he has never complained of soreness or pain, nor has he missed a start. His delivery, resilient arm, size and stuff remind many scouts of Angels set-up man Scot Shields, and most scouts think Lincecum will thrive in a relief role. His present stuff rivals any pitcher in the draft, and he should move quickly. Lincecum's father helped develop his mechanics.
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So he projects as a reliever?
color me disappointed.
Vizcaino? 1st base? WTF?

by The Balls of Summer on Jun 6, 2006 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Drabekl #18 to Phils

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 10:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
There goes Parmalee.

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 10:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

drabek fell like....
ben wallace's free agency stock
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 10:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Okay, y'all have a better feed than I do. I'm just going to refresh this page. I'm still on #16.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
I really hope he makes it. 5'10 righty who throws upper 90's with a crazy delivery and a 12 to 6 curve? If he can deliver he could be my favorite Giant ever to watch pitch.

by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 10:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
BTW- Just looking around he was in the mix for a top 5 and there was even some consideration for the first pick. I'm actually pretty excited about this.

by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
The guys on MLB TV are like deer in headlights.  There is no polish here.  It is worth checking out just to see the poor guys.  High factor of unintentional comedy.

by out machine on Jun 6, 2006 10:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Supplemental pick = some crazy overdraft, like Nate Schierholtz. Just a WAG, though.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Bard is still out there after 24 picks ... Any other top players still available?

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 10:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
where do you get this fast track pick results?
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
I followed Grant's link above & it led me to a java window ... something like "MLB Draft Tracker."

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Go here and click on the DraftCaster link

by SerpentX on Jun 6, 2006 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Good gravy, that's much better.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
That'd be cool if we got Bard too.

by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Lincecum
You have to have some pretty dodgy control to walk 4.5 per 9 in NCAA, no?

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Lincecum
yes.
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goo
Vizcaino? 1st base? WTF?

by The Balls of Summer on Jun 6, 2006 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bard gone
to the Red Sox.
Vizcaino? 1st base? WTF?

by The Balls of Summer on Jun 6, 2006 10:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Daniel Bard went 28th after being the concensus pick of the Giants.

Thought Sabean would go against the grain, I would have to think that he chose Lincecum because of the talk that Lincecum could come in and pitch in the majors later this season.

Lowry and Cain, then wish for more of the same

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 6, 2006 10:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
The DRays will have a sick offense in three years...

Crawford, Upton, Young, Gomes, Longoria...

David
SPORTSZILLA - kickass sports writing

by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 10:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone ever seen
so many pitchers drafted in the 1st round?
Vizcaino? 1st base? WTF?

by The Balls of Summer on Jun 6, 2006 10:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Joba Chamberlain still available
he slips out of the 1st round
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 10:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wisdom from ussm
Dave Cameron has some interesting things to say about Lincecum here: http://ussmariner.com/2006/06/02/amateur-draft/#comments

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 10:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: wisdom from ussm
"...Kerry Wood, but 5 inches shorter, 100 pounds lighter, and with worse mechanics."

Sweet. I'll take two. Seriously.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have I mentioned...
my man crush on Cameron lately?
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
From BA's Draft Blog:
The Giants always play the draft close to the vest and never let out they were on Washington righthander Tim Lincecum, the one player everyone liked but no one would commit to wanting to select. Lincecum went 12-4, 1.94 with an NCAA Division I with 199 strikeouts. His fastball gets into the upper 90s, meaning Lincecum is the type of power arm San Francisco scouting director Dick Tidrow loves. Lincecum, whose $1 million bonus demand dropped him to the Indians in the 42nd round last year, should earn considerably more than that from the Giants, and could end up wearing their uniform before the season ends.

by Aadik on Jun 6, 2006 10:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Kinda surprised the Angels took a C, given the depth in the org at that position - was hoping Coger would fall to the Giants.

by Aadik on Jun 6, 2006 10:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: ESPN article on Lincecum
and his stats here:

Year    ERA  W-L  G/GS CG ShO IP  H  R ER  BB  SO 2B 3B HR Avg. WP HB BK
2004   3.53 10-3 20/18  0  0 112.1  83 55 44  82 161 11  0  5 .207 15  7  3
2005   3.11  8-6 16/16  4  1 104.1  62 40 36  71 131  9  3  4 .179 11 10  0
Totals 3.32 18-9 36/34  4  1 216.2 145 95 80 153 292 20  3  9 .194 26 17  3

by Bred on Albany Hill on Jun 6, 2006 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Also, the Dodgers were rumored to be thinking Morris at 7- the fact that he's available at 26 is probably huge for them. Given Logan White's success - a "take players the Dodgers are targeting" strategy sounds pretty good to me.

by Aadik on Jun 6, 2006 10:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
For the Giants' supp. pick, I love Steven Wright, though he's dropped a lot today...
David
SPORTSZILLA - kickass sports writing

by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 10:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
It's a small draft class, but I wouldn't want to paint it.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
I love that guy. He's hilarious!
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm warming to the pick
seems to me, anytime you can get a player that was rumored to go #1 at #10, it's a pretty good day.
Vizcaino? 1st base? WTF?

by The Balls of Summer on Jun 6, 2006 10:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: I'm warming to the pick
The more I read, he seems like the ultimate high risk/ High reward guy. Red flags include that he routinely through 120-140 pitches, yet never iced his arm after starts because he says it doesn't get sore. In fact, I read where he usually plays long toss on days after starts.

Freak of nature, or injury waiting to happen?

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excitement warmer
K/9 of over 14!

Fourteen strikeouts per nine innings!

Vizcaino? 1st base? WTF?

by The Balls of Summer on Jun 6, 2006 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone got a direct link to....
Linecum video?  Like to see what his delivery actually looks like after hearing the description.
Dancing Guy #4 turns me on.

by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2006 10:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Anyone got a direct link to....
There's some action shots at Google images. Looks like he's really rearing back.

http://images.google.com/images?q=Tim+Lincecum&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

mlb.tv...
has a vid.  to my completely untrained eye, his motion looks funky but not THAT weird.
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ummm....
what are the mlb.tv dudes talking about?
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 10:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I just watched the scouting video
I'm not seeing anything freakish in his delivery.  A peculiar little wiggle on his follow-through, but nothing that makes me shiver.  What am I missing?

by SerpentX on Jun 6, 2006 10:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

linky?
Dancing Guy #4 turns me on.

by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2006 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't find a direct link, its a popup.
Just go to the Draft Tracker and look under "Recap Round 1"

by SerpentX on Jun 6, 2006 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has...
something weird going on with the manner in which he cocks his arm.
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I just watched the scouting video
I agree. It kind of looks like Kevin Brown. I also like to see the fastball between 95 and 97.

by malarky on Jun 6, 2006 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was on the java window for a second...
And figured it was paused between the first and supplemental round.
Dancing Guy #4 turns me on.

by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2006 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tools
I think Lincecum was rated as having both the best fastball and best breaking ball among the college pitchers, according to BA.

I hope the Giants keep him as a starter. He's risky, but he's a damn-high-upside kinda guy.

Also, BA rated Lincecum as No. 2 in its Top 200 draft prospects a couple of weeks ago. Not bad.

by Dan from NM on Jun 6, 2006 10:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Maybe we can turn himinto a Mike Remlinger that we hold on to.
"Do you want to know the terrifying truth, or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?" Mark McGwire

by MeSoKrabby on Jun 6, 2006 10:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Just watched the mlb.tv feed...
Stupid pop up blockers...

Anyways, looks liek the only weird thing is that he drops his arm down and slings it around.  Instead of just separating bck he separates down.

Dancing Guy #4 turns me on.

by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2006 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

umm...
is the draft happening right now?
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 10:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
I think its taking a break between rounds
hung up on '02

by BondsApologist on Jun 6, 2006 10:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Chamberlain? Beato?
We really need a hitter, though.

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 10:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Suppl Pick
I know some are wanting a position player, but I would be happy to get Joba here. Two top arms would do wonders for our organizational pitching.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 10:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lincecum
Wow. Tons of strikeouts... Lots of walks... Looks a lot like a right-handed Scott Kazmir--from last season. Not this season. I wonder what the OBP-against ended up being?

http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/pitchers.pl?player=lincecum&style=Contains&submit=Search&t eam=any

David
SPORTSZILLA - kickass sports writing

by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 10:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Dodgers took Mattingly's kid. No one was sure where he'd go in the first five, so this seems like a bold move.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

OOOH
overdraft!
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Burriss? Know nothing about him.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Compare Joba to Steven Wright. I'd want to know how much suckier the WAC was than the BigXII, and I'd want to know if scouts think Wright isn't for real for some reason.
David
SPORTSZILLA - kickass sports writing

by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 10:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
First reaction: Burriss sounds like Marcus Sanders: a leadoff hitter who may have to move to second.

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 10:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
"Upside is Luis Castillo"?

Well, that doesn't wet my whistle.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 10:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I object to the Burriss pick
If only because his batting stance resembles Niefi.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 11:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
"Focuses on working counts and wreaking havoc".

Well, that wets my whistle.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 11:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Yeah - this looks like a "small ball" pick - I'd have been more happy with Andersen.

by Aadik on Jun 6, 2006 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
He hit .360 this past season, his only good one in three...

Emmanuel Burriss

Doesn't look like much power, but he walks and makes contact.

David
SPORTSZILLA - kickass sports writing

by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 11:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
So this past season was his first to post an OPS over .751? Hmm.. Would have rather had Joba.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lincecum's Bonus
Needs to improve his grill.

by seyheystretch on Jun 6, 2006 11:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

MLB.com coverage
They really need to work on the clips they show of the draft picks. Pitchers throwing junk in some random at-bat. Hitters not hitting pitches or grounding out. Show some actual highlights, WTF?
"Do you want to know the terrifying truth, or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?" Mark McGwire

by MeSoKrabby on Jun 6, 2006 11:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprisingly pleased
How long does Brian have to wait before he can trade them for Latroy Hawkins though?

by Peter Bean on Jun 6, 2006 11:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Chamberlain goes to the Yankees, finally.

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 11:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Burriss
clearly has the Vizquel head-first-slide-into-first-base thing down.

by SerpentX on Jun 6, 2006 11:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

From the comments on MLB
"Strong Cape season"

Which means he can handle a wooden bat.  Nice.

Vizcaino? 1st base? WTF?

by The Balls of Summer on Jun 6, 2006 11:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can anyone provide a link
to see video of Lincecum?
Vizcaino? 1st base? WTF?

by The Balls of Summer on Jun 6, 2006 11:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

scroll up, BoS
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Can anyone provide a link
Nasty curve.

Will Carroll pimped him in his Under The Knife column today, too, which is nice. Will's a mechanics nut, so if he thinks he's a "steal no matter where he goes," I'm happy.

by Peter Bean on Jun 6, 2006 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Can anyone provide a link
From the side angle, you can really how far his arm goes back.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
that link wasn't working earlier.

Doesn't look too funky to me.

Vizcaino? 1st base? WTF?

by The Balls of Summer on Jun 6, 2006 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Thanks
I think it's the short factor that soured people on him more than the delivery. Hell, Mark Prior was supposed to have the greatest mechanics in history. They don't know nothing.  Injuries just happen.

by Roger on Jun 6, 2006 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
54. Cardinals (for type A Morris)
-------------------------------------
So is that the pick the Giants would have had?

I'm thinking $27M and an early 3rd rounder weren't worth the Bearded Wonder.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 11:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Joba....
worst body type ever
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 11:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tigers
Bonderman, Verlander, Zumaya, Andrew Miller. Damn.

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 11:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Tigers
How about Cain, Lowry, Lincecum. If it works it could be an interesting mix.

by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez
Lowry
Cain
Sanchez
Lincecum

Nice.

Vizcaino? 1st base? WTF?

by The Balls of Summer on Jun 6, 2006 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Sanchez
Lowry
Cain
Lincecum
Joaquin
Sanchez

Sweet!

Lowry and Cain, then wish for more of the same

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 6, 2006 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Sanchez
Lowry
Cain
Linecum
Sanchez
Loriano

oh wait a minute...

by DividedByZero on Jun 6, 2006 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sickels' community mock draft
The guy picking for the Devil Rays ended up with both Lincecum and Burriss as well, at #3 and #47, for what it's worth. It's probably not worth much.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2006/6/5/11404/19965

"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 11:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Burriss
Based on the article Serpentx posted I am just going to assume he's Eckstein with about twice the natural ability.

by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 11:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Burriss
But only half the grit!

by groug on Jun 6, 2006 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Burriss
Chone Figgins who can play shortstop.

by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cards
take Thomas Furnish with the Matt Morris pick.

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 11:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cards
Furnish might be better than Morris now, but his clubhouse presence isn't even in the same league.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
FYI-

We've got Emmanuel on the phone right now, and should have an interview up sometime today or tomorrow.

by BruteSentiment on Jun 6, 2006 11:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Remind him that he'll have to follow in the footsteps of such Giant legends as Johnnie Lemaster and Niefi Perez.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
He was going to sign at George Washington, but a week before the signing, the coach there, Jeff Wagner, went to Kent State, and so he decided to follow Wagner there.

He hopes to play shortstop in the pros...he patterns his game after Jose Reyes and Roberto Alomar, and he's really looking forward to getting the chance to meet Omar Vizquel.

Nice kid.  The Baron did the interview, really liked him.

by BruteSentiment on Jun 6, 2006 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
More on Lincecum from that Mariners blog, just before the Kerry Wood reference:
Lincecum has crazy, lights out stuff.  His fastball is 95-98, and he maintains his velocity late in games.  His curveball has some serious drop, and he throws it with power.

I saw a video of him somewhere and I'm no expert but his delivery didn't seem that out of sorts to me.  I'm pretty excited about this pick the more I hear and think about it.  He clearly was one of the top pitchers in the draft, with talk of him possibly in the Top 5.  There was a mock draft on MLB.com that mentioned his name often for the first 10 picks, which caught my attention.

Burriss is in the mode of what Sabean has already said that baseball is shifting to, that of speed again, and shown by all the speed demons he has percolating up the farm system.

Lowry and Cain, then wish for more of the same

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 6, 2006 11:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
This "shifting to speed" thing -- does that make any sense at all? I just don't get it.

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the emphasis on the power/patience model...
might make quality speed players much more affordable and attainable.
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: the emphasis on the power/patience model...
Hmmm, okay ... except that power/patience is the model for a good reason.

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well hold on
You want major leaguers with power and patience. But you want prospects on the happy side of the defensive spectrum, so they have somewhere to slide to. If you're already a 1B in high school, you've got nowhere to go.

by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Well hold on
I was thinking more of a major-league talent evaluation philosophy rather than a draft day philosophy. But it does cut both ways, I think; if Burriss can't cut it as a shortstop, will his bat be able to carry him at any other position?

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

why?
a player can contribute offensively as easily with speed and average as with power and patience
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: why?
In theory, sure. But how many guys can hit like Ichiro? It would be lovely to see more Eckstein- or Brett Butler-style players -- guys who play a defined role in a good offense -- but you'd be doomed if you tried to build around them.

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: why?
I thought that was a myth!  Seriously, is there another team in the majors that's got as little power production out of 1b/3b/RF as we have in the last 10 years. Sabes consistently undervalues power in my opinion.

by Roger on Jun 6, 2006 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
What I took it to mean is that baseball has had cycles of when teams emphasized speed over power.  Think Wills and Brock in the 60's, Rickey, Coleman, and Raines in the 80's, where the top base stealers steal close to 100 bases.

Also, given that the Giants homepark is a big drag on power - 90/100 for HR, particularly bad on LHH not named Barry Bonds - perhaps Sabean thought that he would build the Giants on speed since power doesn't work as well at home.  Snow, for example, as maligned as he was by some home fans, he still averaged around 25 AB/HR on the road during the 2000's  until last season - that works out to about 25 HR in a full season, which was good, though not great power, for a 1B.  

Lowry and Cain, then wish for more of the same

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 6, 2006 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
If the Giants want to pick up someone that can play catcher and hit, look for Aaron Bates of NC State sometime in first ten rounds. His stats weren't as good as expected this year, and he mostly played 1B, but he can catch and he's a big guy who can hit. (He played at Mitty and then San Jose State and then transferred in case anyone recognizes the name.)

by Josh from The New Giant Thrill on Jun 6, 2006 11:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Gone to the Red Sox in the third round (pick 83)...

by Josh from The New Giant Thrill on Jun 6, 2006 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
I would like to see Matt La Porta 1B from Florida or Lars Anderson 1B HS California.  Both guys have plus power and provide solid defense.  Holes in their swings, but offer high potential.  IF both around in third round, we need to jump on them.
By baseball standards, the intentional walk is boring ... Yet Bonds has turned it into an art form

by jfucsd10 on Jun 6, 2006 11:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Good call. They have to make it through another fifteen picks or so ...

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I predict...
we take a pitcher in the 3rd
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tim Worrell's awful return...
I'm sorry to go off topic, but I figured someone on here may have heard who the Giants have sent down to AAA so that they could re-activate the king of the blown game, Tim Worrell.

I've heard its most likely to be Brian Wilson or Jonathan Sanchez, both of whom have pitched much better than Worrell.  Hopefully the Giants just have a change of heart and release Worrell.  He's been an even worse signing than Matt Morris.

by ololo3 on Jun 6, 2006 11:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Tim Worrell's awful return...
Worrell signed a two year deal. He won't get cut.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Tim Worrell's awful return...
You know, I'm thinking of a Washington righty that might just be able to do a better job in the seventh inning right now... ;)

by antinous on Jun 6, 2006 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our guy Burriss
Nice guy, easy to talk to, sounds eager to play for us. Brutesentiment hit the highlights of my brief discussion with him. Looking forward to seeing him up here.

Now I have to remember to breathe...I always get jittery when doing interviews.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 6, 2006 11:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Our guy Burriss
Last interview I ever did was Darren Lewis for a 11th-grade English project. He was renting a house on my block, and I slipped a note through his mail slot. I didn't follow baseball like I do now, so all of my questions were worthless.

I kind of wish I still had that paper, though.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Coming up on our Eyre consolation prize
...which comes right after our Worrell throwaway.
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Coming up on our Eyre consolation prize
D-backs take Dallas Buck with the Worrell pick
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Bates goes at #83 to BoSox. Bummer.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 11:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Clayton Tanner
Local LHP out of De La Salle

by SerpentX on Jun 6, 2006 11:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
ckayton tanner???
By baseball standards, the intentional walk is boring ... Yet Bonds has turned it into an art form

by jfucsd10 on Jun 6, 2006 11:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

any word on this kid?
tanner?
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: any word on this kid?
Did we just draft someone from the cast of "Full House" ?

by Aadik on Jun 6, 2006 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
anybody know anything? bout this local kid?
By baseball standards, the intentional walk is boring ... Yet Bonds has turned it into an art form

by jfucsd10 on Jun 6, 2006 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
USA Today article about our #1 pick.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/baseball/2006-05-23-washington-lincecum-focus_x.htm

"Why you gotta be cardin' my hos?" - Charlie Hayes

by stevieg on Jun 6, 2006 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Uninspiring, but I guess they all are at this point.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 11:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Valaika to Reds
Well, the only Gaucho whose name I could remember is now on WKRP...  Bye, Valaika.  It was a nice fantasy for a while.

Everyone who prognosticated that the Giants would start going for upside HS arms starting in the third was clearly insane.  Not that they weren't right, but I tend to think most of you people are nuts anyway.

"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 11:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tanner
"Easy delivery, sneaky fastball, and a feel for a tight, hissing breaking ball. Quality three pitch mix and upside with the fastball."

http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=33933&Sport=3

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 11:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually...
Actually, Tanner does sound inspiring, since that commitment issue seems like another Ishikawa-esque, signability drop that Sabes can hurl loads of dough at.  Isn't Pepperdine by and large a prestige program?

Is it just me, or is Sickels' darling Lars Anderson still on the board?

"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 11:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The downside of playing for Pepperdine
is that you have to attend Pepperdine.

by SerpentX on Jun 6, 2006 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's wrong...
with pepperdine?
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Imagine if "Dr" James Dobson
George Pepperdine was no James Dobson. True, it's technically Church of Christ affiliated, but you wouldn't know by being here. Probably the skimpiest dressed female students you'll find is here in Malibu.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Two words
Sting also teaches music here. It's a pretty unique place to go to school.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: The downside of playing for Pepperdine
It must be tough attending college on the shores of Malibu.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: The downside of playing for Pepperdine
I believe, on the shores of Malibu, you tend not to attend anything.
"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the shores of malibu
i work off the third street promenade in santa monica, and sometimes go for lunch up PCH into malibu... it is hard has hell to go back to work.

the only thing that gets me back is grant's 1pm posting... showing some man-love for our leader.

Dodgers fans eat their young.

by redhornet78 on Jun 6, 2006 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, but...
You're looking at around 3:00 or 4:00 today. FYI.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Actually...
Still there. I'm kind of hoping he's still there at #116. Only thirteen picks left.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
yea he is and we are comin up again soon, he is local.

by kingaro on Jun 6, 2006 12:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lincecum...
Three things:
  1. Anybody know the phonetic pronunciation of his name?
  2. All those concerns about pitch counts and mechanics, sure, but Will Carroll writes today that he will "be a steal no matter where he is picked." The only player in the draft Carroll mentioned. I'll take it.
  3. Drabek: Enjoy a cocktail, fine, but man, I hate drunk drivers.
Saving countless runs with my defense

by lyricalkiller on Jun 6, 2006 12:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Lincecum...
Lynn-see-come.

The BA Drabek article said his crash was coming home from practice, so I don't think it was a DUI.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Lincecum...
If it was...then yeah you can chalk that up to "personal problems".

by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Lincecum...
Although this Kyle Drabek fellow is sounding more and more like a person I'd like to party with.

by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Lincecum...
I used to use boof towels before drama rehearsal. Does that count as "makeup issues"?

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Lincecum...
Are you implying Drabek has acne?  'Cos if so, good on Sabes--we don't need some kid with a spotty record.
"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Lincecum...
He says he passed out from dehydration, from not drinking water at practice.

So 'officially' it wasn't a DUI.

But we are talking a high school football practice.  I wouldn't be surprised if the coach occasionally spiked the Gatorade with Skyy.

by BruteSentiment on Jun 6, 2006 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Lincecum...
By the way, upon further review, Lincecum wasn't the only player Carroll mentioned. I'm just an idiot.
Saving countless runs with my defense

by lyricalkiller on Jun 6, 2006 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Lars Anderson is still on the board because apparently there are some signability issues.  he wants a seven figure signing bonus and teams are balking at that.  GIVEN THAT, ITS ALMOST CERTAIN THAT SABEAN WILL WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM.  SAME WITH LA PORTA WHO IS being represented by Boras.
By baseball standards, the intentional walk is boring ... Yet Bonds has turned it into an art form

by jfucsd10 on Jun 6, 2006 12:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Do the GMs take a siesta...
...in between rounds?
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 12:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Do the GMs take a siesta...
No, Ricciardi just punched out Theo.  Something to do with with whether Mal from "Firefly" was cooler than Han Solo.  Their parents have been called, and we'll be back on track on in a second.
"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Sabean was willing to sign Ishikawa for near-7 figure bonus a few years back, with inflation it should be easily over 7-figure in today's money.  If this Lars guy is any good, Sabean might take a flier on him in a later round (he nabbed Ishikawa in the 21st round I think or was it 20th?).

I found out where videos of prospects are.  You need to pull up the popup window for the draft (I clicked to listen to the draft) and to the right there is a link saying "Draft Prospects A-M".

Don't know if my memory is playing tricks on me, but if you look at the video for him, near the end they switch the view to his right side and his throwing motion made me think of Greg Maddux.  Anybody else see that?  If not, did you see anyone else?

Lowry and Cain, then wish for more of the same

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 6, 2006 12:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Factoid
Tanner got a 1560 on his SAT!!

Wow!  If nothing else, he can help teach the dumb guys how to do analogies and understand parabolas, which is good for fielding fly balls.

Right?

by Peter Bean on Jun 6, 2006 12:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap.
1560? I love the pick now. That's just the kind of elitist I am.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Holy crap.
Ummm...

You guys realize the new SATs go up to 2400, right?

"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Holy crap.
No. No I didn't.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Holy crap.
Yup, last year they integrated the SAT II Writing into the basic SAT.  800 more points, primarily essay.  Hopefully, Tanner picked as his subject, "Why I Intend to Betray My College in Pursuit of the Almighty Buck."
"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Holy crap.
Ha, here I was thinking it was the old 1600 scale from back when I was in high school ... <shakes cane at all the kids> GET OFFA MY YARD!

by tk on Jun 6, 2006 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Holy crap.
Don'f forget: no more analogies, either. They're mostly useless, anyway.
David
SPORTSZILLA - kickass sports writing

by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Holy crap.

Analogies:Useful in Every day life

::
X : Closing baseball games

X is
a) Armando Benitez
b) Armando Benites
c) Mandos, The Hand Of Fate
d) Pedro Felix

by zenbitz on Jun 6, 2006 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Holy crap.
MST3K baby!  Love it.

by Lipssan1 on Jun 6, 2006 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben Snyder
LHP from Ball State

by SerpentX on Jun 6, 2006 12:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ben Snyder at 116
per BA:
137. Ben Snyder, lhp
School: Ball State. Class: So.
Hometown: Bellevue, Ohio
B-T: L-L. Ht.: 6-2. Wt.: 200. Birthdate: 7/20/85.

Scouting Report: Snyder's older brother Brad is an Indians outfield prospect who went 18th overall in the 2003 draft. Ben won't go that high, but he should go in the first five rounds because he's a classic pitchability lefthander with a strong competitive makeup. His forte is throwing four pitches for strikes. His fastball usually ranges from 85-88 mph and occasionally touches 90, but he can put it where he wants. Even when it sits at 84-86 mph, he gets by with his ability to sink, cut and command it. His curveball is average, and he enhances it by adding and subtracting velocity from it. His changeup is a good weapon, though at 81-82 mph it could use more separation from his fastball. If his changeup doesn't have its normal sink, it gets hit. He also throws a cut fastball that he calls a slider. The top prospect in the Great Lakes League last summer, Snyder has additional bargaining power. He's a draft-eligible sophomore after redshirting in 2004.

Woody II?

Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 12:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Ben Snyder at 116
At this point, Misch II.  If he can gain a couple MPH, hopefully Lowry II.  Otherwise, Loogy MCMXVII.
"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Ben Snyder at 116
actually, he looks like he'll get more K's than Woody, as he average nearly a K per inning last season (though an era near 5)
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Ben Snyder at 116
Snyder still K's about 1 per inning. Not sure if Woody did that at any level. This season as a sophmore:

109.1 IP
101 H    
108 K
40 BB

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Ben Snyder at 116
To be fair, Woody probably average a K per inning in middle school.

by Aadik on Jun 6, 2006 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, he didn't
Of course, back in the nineteenth century the pitcher had to lob the ball underhand to the batter.

by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Ben Snyder at 116
my thoughts exactly
"Do you want to know the terrifying truth, or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?" Mark McGwire

by MeSoKrabby on Jun 6, 2006 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
This Lincecum kid sounds fairly promising.  I wonder what 40 year old journeyman we'll end up trading him for...

by ololo3 on Jun 6, 2006 12:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

David Wells
if you really must know.

by SerpentX on Jun 6, 2006 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off the charts
Apparently, Marcus Lemon's "off the charts in terms of makeup."  Sort of the Tammy Fay Baker of the middle infield.
"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 12:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Or Tammy Lynn Sytch
What Sabean wants, Sabean gets.

by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Or Tammy Lynn Sytch
and what he wants is more cowbell
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this lincecum guy needs...
a nickname, no way in hell i can pronounce that.
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Errr... oh boy?
Drabek may have gotten drunk during practice, but Lincecum clearly does mass amounts of coke before interviews.

"People call me a freak of nature," Lincecum said. "It's not unusual for me to just start dancing around out of the blue. I like to do back flips and walk around on my hands."

Um.  Uh-huh...  huh?

"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 12:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Errr... oh boy?
if you are doing the interview, how do you respond to that?
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Errr... oh boy?
"Mr. Lincecum, what would be unusual? One or two examples would be fine."

by Gordo on Jun 6, 2006 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Errr... oh boy?
I thought it was only southpaws who were allowed to talk like that.
"Look at that: I didn't even know I had a dime in the shoe." - F.Alou

by EliminateMe on Jun 6, 2006 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where's the Sock?
It wouldn't mind seeing the Giants draft a power hitter.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 12:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Where's the Sock?
And what the Sock wants ...

by Evan on Jun 6, 2006 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

stan conte's kid....
is he garbage or what?
bring back alex sanchez to contaminate jose vizcaino's piss test.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jun 6, 2006 12:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Shirely Manson and Butch Vig...
Are they Garbage or what?
"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

with the 146th pick in the draft
the Giants select Michael McBryde, CF Florida Atlantic U

anyone, anyone...Bueller...

Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 1:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Michael McBryde?
Looks like a speedy CFer, which our system was heretofore desperately lacking.

Whatever.  He's no Michael McDonald.  Now that white guy's got soul.

"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 1:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Well, Florida Atlantic did produce a major leaguer for us already, if I'm not mistaken....

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 1:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
When do the Lewis & Clark rounds start?
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
You guys are too funny. I was wondering when the Marvin Benard-Joey Dyche jokes would start.

Whenever someone says Lewis Clark is a Division II powerhouse or whatever it reminds of how Citizen Dick was loved in Europe.

by Dan from NM on Jun 6, 2006 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
they really did have a huge following in Belgium.
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: McBryde
So I wonder if he was drafted as a CF or as a closer?

by BleacherEd on Jun 6, 2006 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: McBryde
Maybe another Accardo type. Fifth round seems high for that type of player though.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: McBryde
given that Accardo wasn't drafted at all -- great signing, by the way!

by Roger on Jun 6, 2006 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: McBryde
it looks like has hasn't played much this season. only 3 games as of May 26.
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: McBryde
Only a few appearances in 05-06... I'm guessing he was injured.

Also... lots of strikeouts once he started doing some relief work... I wonder if the Giants view him more as a pitcher.

I'm a little intrigued.

"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah... what Ed and nostocks said...
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: McBryde
They mentioned on the broadcast that he had a bad hamstring injury all year. They said he was one of the fastest players in the draft and throws in the low 90's.

by malarky on Jun 6, 2006 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Hmmm, Matt Latos still on the board? It would be a nice pick here
The Dodgers are evil.

by irwin on Jun 6, 2006 1:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
more makeup issues, looks like
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
His makeup issues: Getting pissed when his teammates make errors. I'm OK with that.

I think Walden is also still available, he would be good as well

The Dodgers are evil.

by irwin on Jun 6, 2006 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Anyone else amused that the Brewers took a guy whose last name is Brewer?
David
SPORTSZILLA - kickass sports writing

by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 1:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Legacy pick
It's actually Bernie's kid.
"Look at that: I didn't even know I had a dime in the shoe." - F.Alou

by EliminateMe on Jun 6, 2006 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a German soccer club
Called Wolfsburg. They employed as their manager a man named Wolfgang Wolf. If ever there was a match made in heaven, that's it.

by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: There's a German soccer club
My alltime favorite is still when Steve Axman was the head football coach of the Northern Arizona Lumberjacks.

by Voodoo Chile on Jun 6, 2006 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keith Law's ESPN Insider writeup on Lincecum
It is tougher for me to get excited about Lincecum as a Top Ten pick if he projects as a reliever, but man... look at those Cape Cod numbers. 42 strikeouts and four walks in 19 1/3 innings. This guy is special.

"The circus freak among this year's top prospects, Lincecum might not even reach 5-foot-10 in heels, weighs less than Old Weird Harold, and has a delivery that draws comparisons to a catapult, but his one-two combination of a mid-90s fastball and an outstanding downer curveball might be the best two-pitch tandem in the draft. He has a simple plan: get ahead with two fastballs, then put hitters away with the deuce. However, Lincecum's size, unorthodox delivery, heavy workload -- he threw relief in midweek games four times this spring, and threw eight or more innings seven times -- and mediocre control all point toward a bullpen role in the pros. The limited data on Lincecum as a reliever supports the argument; in the Cape Cod League last summer, Lincecum threw 19.1 innings across 16 relief appearances, allowing one run, walking four batters and fanning 42. If the team that drafts him does put him in the pen, he's likely to be the first 2006 draftee to reach the majors."

"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 1:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Keith Law's ESPN Insider writeup on Lincecum
Why does his heavy workload point him towards the bullpen? I guess the constant use wouldn't be unusual for him, but if he is going 8 innings at a time for his college team, why can't he start for the Giants?

by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...
Tough to argue with your logic there, hammy. I guess he may be arguing that his arm won't be able to take much more of a heavy workload.
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not one game, it's the season
140 IP vrs 220 IP
The Dodgers are evil.

by irwin on Jun 6, 2006 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rohlinger (SS)
had good numbers at OU this season.

.377-12-63, .598 slg%, .444 obp, only 23 k's

http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&SPID=201&SPORT_TAB_SEL=04&SPSID=2 710&DB_OEM_ID=300&ATCLID=224139

Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 1:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Rohlinger (SS)
Now that's a good pick. Rohlinger and Lincecum are the only two guys I'm happy about so far.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Where is the Justin Fuller pick?

Next round, for sure.

by Grant on Jun 6, 2006 1:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Brett Pill, 1b Fullerton (206)
Has a stance reminiscent of Pujols.
We're going to win the World Series.

by Punch Rockgroin on Jun 6, 2006 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Brett Pill, 1b Fullerton (206)
Pill (Fullerton St.) and Rohlinger (Okla.) should be playing in the super regionals this weekend... might be able to catch a glimpse of them on ESPN/ESPN2

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2462715

"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Brett Pill, 1b Fullerton (206)
From my limited following of NCAA baseball, I'm pretty sure Pill can rake. Which makes me happy.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
crap...8th round: ..Latos or Walden...please,please,please
The Dodgers are evil.

by irwin on Jun 6, 2006 1:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
looks like these guys are going to college
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

can one of you knowledgeable
draft people <cough> irwin, for instance <cough> write a summary dairy of our future trade bait after the draft?
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 1:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Once my rage subsides
I'll see what I can put together, but there seems to be less info out this year. MLB.com has a lot less [ and very different] info than they had before.
The Dodgers are evil.

by irwin on Jun 6, 2006 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
ok, Tidrow is just trying to piss me off now.
The Dodgers are evil.

by irwin on Jun 6, 2006 1:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Do you want me to pass him a note?
"I'm going to be looking for a lot of showing of the balls from now on." - FELIPE ALOU 5/4/06

by Brian Sabean on Jun 6, 2006 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

shouldn't...
you be feverishly concentrating or least pretending to, brian?
You look like I need a drink

by kenshin1 on Jun 6, 2006 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: shouldn't...
I delegate very well.
"I'm going to be looking for a lot of showing of the balls from now on." - FELIPE ALOU 5/4/06

by Brian Sabean on Jun 6, 2006 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Matt Klimas in the 8th round, C from Texarkana
drafted 36th round last year by KC
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Matt Klimas in the 8th round, C from Texarkana
Good to know that his ABs are all integers. You like to see that in a prospect.
"Look at that: I didn't even know I had a dime in the shoe." - F.Alou

by EliminateMe on Jun 6, 2006 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hee hee
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Brian Bocock SS, Stetson U
Honestly, that pick was just about the name. I don't know the first thing about the kid.
"I'm going to be looking for a lot of showing of the balls from now on." - FELIPE ALOU 5/4/06

by Brian Sabean on Jun 6, 2006 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Brian Bocock SS, Stetson U
He's made 17 errors so far this season.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Why not take a shot at Andersen at this point ?

by Aadik on Jun 6, 2006 2:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Hopefully for you they have already sounded him out as to what he wants in a bonus and essentially negotiated the contract while all the other teams have already told him he's not on their draft list.  Then the Giants can pick other players that they like before picking him with a later pick.
Lowry and Cain, then wish for more of the same

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 6, 2006 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DFA him
"Favorites include: Los Angeles Dodgers (team)"
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: DFA him
Isn't Noah Lowry a Dodger fan?
We're going to win the World Series.

by Punch Rockgroin on Jun 6, 2006 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: DFA him
As opposed to "Los Angeles Dodgers (flavor of ice cream)"?
"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Ryan Paul's bio:
"Favorites include: Los Angeles Dodgers (team)"

Here's one farmhand I hope flames out horribly.

by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: From Ryan Paul's bio:
Lowry was a Satan-worshipper, too, in his SoCal youth.

by Roger on Jun 6, 2006 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: From Ryan Paul's bio:
alright. I should give our organizational re-education programs at least a chance to work.
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: From Ryan Paul's bio:
He can also learn to hate Ludwig Von.
"Look at that: I didn't even know I had a dime in the shoe." - F.Alou

by EliminateMe on Jun 6, 2006 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Round 10 pick
A left-handed college relief pitcher. Looks like this is his 4th time being drafted.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

After the 10th round or so...
...don't the GMs just start saying "I'll take...that guy over there. What's his name? Yeah, him."
"Look at that: I didn't even know I had a dime in the shoe." - F.Alou

by EliminateMe on Jun 6, 2006 2:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn it
what will we do now. the Dodgers took a Lewis & Clark player, Justin Fuller, just ahead of us. Sabes an Tidrow are scrambling in the warroom
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 2:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Marvin "Gib" Hobson, RHP, NC State
The organization needs another Marvin in the system.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Marvin "Gib" Hobson, RHP, NC State
It's been too long, hasn't it?
"Look at that: I didn't even know I had a dime in the shoe." - F.Alou

by EliminateMe on Jun 6, 2006 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Conventional wisdom:
Select the best Marvin still available.
"Look at that: I didn't even know I had a dime in the shoe." - F.Alou

by EliminateMe on Jun 6, 2006 2:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Conventional wisdom:
Wow, this kid sucks.

http://gopack.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2005-2006/teamcume.html

Maybe he's way ahead of the pack on veteran saavy though.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Conventional wisdom:
He had a good Cape Cod League:
Summer league: Pitched for Bourne of the Cape Cod League in 2005 and finished second in the leauge in wins with a 6-1 record and a 2.55 ERA ... Made eight appearances, all starts, and worked 49 1/3 innings ... Allowed just 39 hits, walked seven and struck out 52. Pitched for Waterloo in the Northwoods League in 2004, compiling a 203 record with a 4.00 ERA in 11 starts.

by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how can you say that?
Gib "started and went four shutout innings February 5 vs. Delaware State, allowing three hits and striking out five, and got the win in a prearranged three-way pitching split ..."

results, baby!

Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Conventional wisdom:
We are talking 11th round here...
"Look at that: I didn't even know I had a dime in the shoe." - F.Alou

by EliminateMe on Jun 6, 2006 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Conventional wisdom:
He is 6-3, and did well against kids using wooden bats... ah, crap. I can't get past the k/bb barely over 2/1. But hey, he went 10-2... cripes.
David
SPORTSZILLA - kickass sports writing

by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

COMPETITION TIME!
Who will be the first prospect from this year's draft to post on McCoveyChronicles.com? Guess the name and win our fabulous prize - one million dollars*!

* one million dollars payable in McCovey Bucks#.

#McCovey bucks refers to Confederate McCovey Bucks, as issued by the People's Republic of Salemicussia.

by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 2:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
I'm pleased with the Lincecum pick and I would love to see the Giants take a Johan Santana approach, breaking him into the majors in the bullpen (where most scouts say he could pitch right now and working him into the rotation. His mechanics are strange though he doesn't having a history of injury problems and that would keep his innings low for the first couple seasons.
DFA Everybody

by JakeS on Jun 6, 2006 2:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Matt Weston, OF, U of Houston
big bat, few K's, fewer BB's
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Matt Weston, OF, U of Houston
He had an abysmal season at the University of San Diego before transferring.
David
SPORTSZILLA - kickass sports writing

by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Matt Weston stats
One can only hope he becomes the next Dave Kingman. I like to see the Giants taking a chance on some power though. Tired of the Dyche/Bowker/Copeland type picks.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Matt Weston, OF, U of Houston
Looks like his stats were very comparable to Lincoln who went 4th overall.

by malarky on Jun 6, 2006 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Matt Weston, OF, U of Houston
Doh. I guess it isn't a great comparison then.

by malarky on Jun 6, 2006 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Jordan Walden went to the Angels
he'll sign, Latos won't.
The Dodgers are evil.

by irwin on Jun 6, 2006 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

College Stats
Those of you linking to difficult-to-read stats pages might want to consider bookmarking Boyd's World.

http://www.boydsworld.com/data/

Clearer layout. Easy searches. Sweet.

David
SPORTSZILLA - kickass sports writing

by David Arnott on Jun 6, 2006 2:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: College Stats
Pitchers' Abuse Points for Lincecum for 2005 was huge, over 400,000 when being over 100,000 is the mark of an elevated amount of abuse.
Lowry and Cain, then wish for more of the same

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 7, 2006 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Bradley Boyer, 2b, Arizona
Frandsen with speed
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Bradley Boyer, 2b, Arizona
As opposed to Burriss, who is Frandsen with a LOT of speed.

Both Boyer and Burriss seem willing to take a walk, too. We have dramatically improved our organization's depth at middle infield today.

"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Decent walk rate
A fair number of strikeouts. Not a lot of power.

by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
Haven't seen this anywhere here yet, MLB.com posted column on the first 2 picks:  http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060606&content_id=1491049&vkey=draft200 6&fext=.jsp

Here's a snippet on Lincecum that I thought was informational:

Dick Tidrow, San Francisco's vice president of player personnel, was also high on the pitcher's versatility as a starter or reliever.

"We like his arm, his stuff and his athleticism," said Tidrow. "He's got a power arm with good breaking stuff. He's a fast mover who can pitch in either a starting or relief role."

Lincecum has been described by scouts as mature and ready to pitch at a higher level. In addition to his break-the-sound-barrier fastball and "hammer" of a curve with its vicious downward arc, he also owns a good slider, which he can use as a first-pitch strike.

Knutson says Lincecum, who turns 22 on June 15, also has the perfect mind-set for the mound.

"He loves to pitch and is very competitive," said Knutson. "He wants to win and was an excellent teammate for three years. I can't find anything bad about him in his abilities as a pitcher."

Of course, Knutson is biased being Lincecum's college coach.

Lowry and Cain, then wish for more of the same

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Jun 6, 2006 3:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

From his bio:
"2004 (Sophomore ):

Stolp grew from a middle reliever into one of Pacific's most dominating pitchers in 2004. Eric finished the season with a 2-8 record and a 7.44 ERA."

Err...

by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This guy
will be the first to post here.

by SerpentX on Jun 6, 2006 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at our bullpen
This guy will be the first to make the majors.

by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: From his bio:
Good god, what did the stats for the non-dominating pitchers look like?
"Look at that: I didn't even know I had a dime in the shoe." - F.Alou

by EliminateMe on Jun 6, 2006 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: From his bio:
Matt Morris
The Dodgers are evil.

by irwin on Jun 6, 2006 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dweeb alert!
He smiles like his braces came off two days ago.

Man, Burriss is totally going to give him power wedgies, 'cos Burriss wreaks havoc...

"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I look at this guy's stats and shake my head
He's almost 22, he's a righty, he's not particularly tall, and he's been lit up in college. He can strike men out but he's incredibly wild. I know it's the low rounds now, but I don't understand. Dunno, maybe this guy can throw 100mph or something.

by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I look at this guy's stats and shake my head
Yeah, this really has the look of a scouts pick rather than a stats pick. There must be something there that they think they can build on.
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LaOverrated LaRepresentedbyanasshole
LaPorta finally off the board in the 14th, to Boston.
"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 3:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Andrew Barbosa, LHP
This kid is 6'8", 220 from Riverview HS, Florida
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 3:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Andrew Barbosa, LHP
Kids that tall generally have no idea where they're throwing the ball. I like it.

by mxmob33 on Jun 6, 2006 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I'd sign for fifty bucks and a plane ticket
he'll need more than $50 if ends up in SJ. rent here is ridiculous.
Satan wears a Dodger cap.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 6, 2006 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Pucetas RHP, Limestone College
Although the Giants seem to think he's a lefty...

by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 3:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And the D-Rays take...
RHP James Brown.  His delivery has been described as "funky."
"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 3:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: And the D-Rays take...
Yeah, but he lands on the good foot.
"Look at that: I didn't even know I had a dime in the shoe." - F.Alou

by EliminateMe on Jun 6, 2006 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HUAH!
Dancing Guy #4 turns me on.

by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2006 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lasorda is such a f-ing blowhard
Who is Francisco Ortiz and why doesn't he have a school?

by Salemicus on Jun 6, 2006 4:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Jeff Stallings, RHP, North Carolina State
Had TJ surgery a year ago... let's hope he's one of those guys who comes out stronger on the other side. I guess it's worth an 18th round pick to find out.
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Jeff Stallings, RHP, North Carolina State
Stallings was NCSU's Friday night starter in 2004.  He could be the next Brian Wilson, or better.

by DrBGiantsfan on Jun 6, 2006 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
There goes Lars Anderson.  Again to the Red Sox.
"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Jun 6, 2006 4:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Draft philosophy
Through 18 rounds... 15 college players, 1 JC, and 2 high schoolers. Wow.
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 6, 2006 4:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
I know.  I can't believe we took any high schoolers.  

by orangeandblackattack on Jun 6, 2006 4:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's still going on?
I wonder what round the average big leaguer was drafted in.
Dancing Guy #4 turns me on.

by WalrusMan on Jun 6, 2006 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Open Draft Thread
So - the usual Giants pitch em all and let god sort em out philosophy ?

by Aadik on Jun 6, 2006 4:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget
The eight SS/2B guys we took. Seriously though, I kind of like the idea of just going all out on SS to make sure we have some organizational depth there.

by hammystyle on Jun 6, 2006 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Day two picks so far
Tyler Graham, CF, R/R, Oregon St U

http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=24962&SPID=1962&DB_OEM_ID=4700&ATCLID=1 30939&Q_SEASON=2005
http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/hitters.pl?player=tyler+graham&style=Contains&submit=Search&am p;team=any

Adam Paul, RHP, UNC Wilmington

http://www.uncw.edu/athletics/2005-06%20Baseball/paul_adam.htm
http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/pitchers.pl?player=adam+paul&style=Contains&submit=Search& team=any

Steven Calicutt, LHP, East Tenn St U

http://www.etsubucs.com/sports/baseball/rosters/displayPlayer.asp?PLAYER_ID=1383
http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/pitchers.pl?player=calicutt&style=Contains&submit=Search&t eam=any

Note: Although drafted as a pitcher, Calicutt is also an outfielder. Hitting stats here:

http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/hitters.pl?player=calicutt&style=Contains&submit=Search&te am=any

Robert Felmy, RF, L/L, U Georgia

http://georgiadogs.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/felmy_bobby00.html
http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/hitters.pl?player=felmy&style=Contains&submit=Search&team= any

Eddie Crow, RHP, Sitka HS

Info?

Jeffrey Walters, RHP, Olympia HS

Info?

Joseph Moos, SS, R/R, Williston HS

Info?

Shane Matthews, RHP, East Carolina U

http://ecupirates.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/mathews_shane00.html
http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/pitchers.pl?player=shane&style=Contains&submit=Search&team =East+Carolina

Sean Van Elderen, RF, R/R, Mesa St College

http://www.mesastate.edu/athletics/mens/Baseball/profiles.htm (scroll down)
Stats?

Dusty Harvard, CF, L/R, Natrona County HS

Info?

Nick Liles, 2B, R/R, Scotland HS

Info?

Daryl Maday, RHP, U Arkansas Fayetteville

http://www.hogwired.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=30676&SPID=2415&DB_OEM_ID=6100&ATCLID=227 667&Q_SEASON=2005
http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/pitchers.pl?player=maday&style=Contains&submit=Search&team =any

Matthew McMurtry, LHP, Minnesota St U-Mankato

http://www.msumavericks.com/player_bio.php?aid=1116)
http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/pitchers.pl?player=mcmurtry&style=Contains&submit=Search&t eam=any

Matthew Fairel, LHP, Winter Haven HS

Info?

Christopher Siewert, C, R/R, U Tennessee

http://utsports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/siewert_chris00.html
http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/hitters.pl?player=siewert&style=Contains&submit=Search&tea m=any

Jared Cranston, LHP, U Nebraska Lincoln

http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=104&SPID=33&DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=228347&am p;Q_SEASON=2005
http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/pitchers.pl?player=cranston&style=Contains&submit=Search&t eam=any

Adam Cowart, RHP, Kansas St U

http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3231&SPID=222&DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=10 4873&Q_SEASON=2005
http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/pitchers.pl?player=adam+cowart&style=Contains&submit=Search&am p;team=any

Matthew Downs, 3B, R/R, Shelton St CC

Info?

Lance Salsgiver, CF, R/R, Harvard U

http://gocrimson.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/salsgiver_lance00.html
http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/hitters.pl?player=salsgiver&style=Contains&submit=Search&t eam=any

Note: also pitches. http://www.boydsworld.com/cgi/pitchers.pl?player=salsgiver&style=Contains&submit=Search& team=any

Ryan Butner, RHP, Hialeah Senior HS

Info?

Lee Darracott, SS, R/R, Vernon Regional JC

http://www.vernoncollege.edu/baseball/darracott.html
Stats?

Jonathon Amaya, CF, R/R, Diamond Bar HS

Info?

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