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Brian Who?

I used to have poor eyesight. Without corrective lenses, I couldn't do anything. Then Kevin Frandsen was called up to the majors. Now I have 20/20 vision.

Exaggerating? Just a little. But a lot of die-hard Giants fans have been waiting for something like Frandsen's arrival, so forgive us if we overreact. The horrors of the Giants farm system have been well documented here. Because I don't like other humans, allow me to present a list of the best position players to be developed by the Giants since the "You've Gotta Like These Kids!" days of 1986:

C - Doug Mirabelli
1B - Damon Minor
2B - Mike Benjamin
SS - Royce Clayton
3B - Bill Mueller
LF - Marvin Benard
CF - Chris Singleton
RF - Armando Rios

Twenty years. That list draws from twenty years of drafting and foreign-born free agents. Twenty years. I think I've even compiled this exact list before, but I'm doing it again because it will never cease to amaze me. Two decades. About a thousand players drafted, and a couple hundred more signed as international free agents. That's the list of the successes.

So now the Giants have a prospect who is:

  1. A position player who shot through the minors.
  2. A local kid.
  3. Constantly compared to San Francisco favorite Robby Thompson.

And we all have stars in our eyes. That's a good thing. I could hardly think of a worse time to be cynical. Frandsen is ready to start right now? Sure, I can believe that. Frandsen is going to be an All-Star next year? Hey, I don't see why not. Frandsen's road to 4,257 hits will be marked with two different 60-game hitting streaks? Makes sense to me.  Watching an organizational product go 3-for-4 in his debut will always be a special kind of excitement.

The Giants had a great series against the Diamondbacks, taking two out of three. Frandsen was on base in every game. The organization desperately needs help from the farm to make it through the post-Barry era, and they could use a little help right now. It's a nice time to have a young player to hope for.

An objective analyst might expect an aggressive rookie like Frandsen to struggle in his initial turn with the big club. Maybe that's a logical thing to think. But logic's going to have to go stag for this dance. When the competition is Pedro Feliz and Ray "Hamstrings of Polenta" Durham, it's probably a healthy thing to start up with the irrational wishcasting.

Now don't get hurt like Brian Wilson did, Kevin.

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Re: Brian Who?
Man, Marvin Bernard - what a guy. Couldn't hit the high fastball, but what a guy. My favorite non-Barry giant over the years.

by Aadik on May 1, 2006 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Benard
I believe some mean-spirited individual who posts here occasionally (read: Grant) coined the nickname "circus-midget" for Benard.
Prediction for the 2006 Giants season: Pain

by kenshin1 on May 1, 2006 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Benard
To be fair, its not entirely inaccurate. But damnit, Marvin had no business being a major league ballplayer, yet somehow managed it for 7 years. He deserves props for that, if not for his play in CF.

by Aadik on May 1, 2006 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Benard
I have a real hard time believing that was me. I'm much too family-friendly to use that term in my writing. At home with friends, sure, but I really doubt I was responsible for that description here.

by Grant Brisbee on May 1, 2006 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Benard
Fair enough. In related news, I may have found out Mr Bernard's calling..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Yayo

Note the first line.

by Aadik on May 1, 2006 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Benard
Whenever he would try to catch a fly in CF, my Mom would cry "Short little legs".

But she's a nice person, really.  Who just happens to honestly believe that you must consume human baby flesh to work in the Dodgers organization.

by zenbitz on May 1, 2006 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Benard
Who just happens to honestly believe that you must consume human baby flesh to work in the Dodgers organization.

she must have read my signature.

Dodgers fans eat their young.

by redhornet78 on May 1, 2006 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Benard
Remember the "Fightin' Hydrants"? Benard, Rios, and I think FP Santangelo was the third. Was that a Kruk coinage? It sure sounds like him...
"Look at that: I didn't even know I had a dime in the shoe." - F.Alou

by EliminateMe on May 1, 2006 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Benard
Felipe Crespo was a hydrant as well.

by zpinnoch on May 1, 2006 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, Marvin
This reminds me of one of my favorite Waiting for Boof lines:

"The Blue Jays signed Marvin Benard to a minor-league contract. Good luck, Marvin, and here's hoping you make it back to the big leagues soon. Don't let this opportunity pass you by. If it does pass you by, it was probably because you first broke in, froze, and then raced back to wave your arms at it. The Skydome can use your unique brand of pluck, and I'm rooting for you."

by antinous on May 1, 2006 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah
I would say "way to cherry pick the years to exclude Matt Williams" but all he would do is take the place of the next best name on the list.

Purely pathetic.  The only list uglier than this is one that is restricted to MLB players developed by the Sabean regime.

Please go away Pedro.

by The Balls of Summer on May 1, 2006 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Yeah
A 25 man roster of the best players signed by the Giants farm system since the Sabean era (1997)would be pretty frightening.

And please Sabes, be gentle in your retort.

by GiantJim on May 1, 2006 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Yeah
You mean gentle like I was with your mom last night?
VETZ4EVA!!!

by Brian Sabean on May 1, 2006 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking
more like you were with Matheney's agent.

by GiantJim on May 1, 2006 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't mean to cherry pick...
...but I kind of did, now that you mention it. I always associate Williams with the '86 crowd of Clark/Thompson, even though he didn't come up until later.

Still, that doesn't hurt the point much.

by Grant Brisbee on May 1, 2006 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Didn't mean to cherry pick...
Williams first came up the next year in '87, so it's still almost 20 years.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f***ing amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on May 1, 2006 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Brian Who?
Since he tested positive, shouldn't there be an asterisk next to Rios' name?
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by Goofus on May 1, 2006 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

You mean,
he was better before he went on roids?

by GiantJim on May 1, 2006 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you
for giving me an excuse to post this again:

DFA Womack!

by Fog City Blues on May 1, 2006 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Thank you
Dammit, who designed the numbers on those Pirates uniforms? Is that a seven, or a two that didn't heat-transfer completely? Or maybe it's a question mark without the dot, like Youppi's.

by leftymalo on May 1, 2006 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Thank you
I miss Youppi!
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f***ing amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on May 1, 2006 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Youppi!
Now the Habs' mascot. I'm convinced that whatever bad karma the Nationals franchise is suffering is because they dumped him but kept Livan.

Why don't the Giants acquire him? (Youppi, not Livan.) He's orange, and he's got a better schtick than Lou Seal.

by Kitspool on May 1, 2006 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Youppi!
Youppi for Pedro, straight up.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f***ing amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on May 1, 2006 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Brian Who?
hey, bernard turned out ok...err, on second thought.

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by zachls on May 1, 2006 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Brian Who?
Kirt Manwaring was a pretty fair catcher too, don't recall how he would compare with Mirabelli.

Deivi Cruz could go on the list as well, if I remember right, you can put him at 2B in place of Benjamin probably, he at least started for a while, I don't think Benji ever moved beyond utility status (maybe in Pittsburgh though).

Plus if you stretch Benjamin to 2B, Pedro Feliz should go in at 1B over Minor.  

Bench could include Yorvit Torrealba, Chris Magruder and Adam Hydzu.  I also like Greg Litton and Steve Scarscone, but only one of them fell into this period probably.  Mike Aldrete?  Steve Decker?  Seems like there should be a few more who would qualify, though, as to Grant's point, no big shakes in any case.

Yeah, Go Frandsen!!!

by obsessivegiantscompulsive on May 1, 2006 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Brian Who?
Aldrete was in that '86 group, and Scarsone came up withe Phils. Other than, I agree.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f***ing amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on May 1, 2006 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manwaring
was actually drafted the same year as Matt Williams.
Please go away Pedro.

by The Balls of Summer on May 1, 2006 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Brian Who?
The fact is all these players could be on the list because they share the same quality, poor major league skills. Just listing the players who should be on the list or not makes me want to puke. Puke, that's a funny word, can I use that?

Cruz we lost to Rule 5 so I don't know how much time he saw before that. Aldrete seems like a good mention, but I was a youngster when he was playing and I didn't pay close attention to those funny things called stats back then.

As for the hydrants, they all sucked and they shouldn't be compared to fire hydrants because hydrants are actually very helpful and a necessity while those three(four) were more like...those green mailboxes, I guess we need them, but they don't do anything special, and they are ugly.

"Do you want to know the terrifying truth, or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?" Mark McGwire

by MeSoKrabby on May 1, 2006 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Guys you forgot
You forgot to mention Calvin Murray and JR Phillips.  They were supposed to be huge.  How did they fare?

by slcgiant on May 1, 2006 7:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Not so huge.
"Look at that: I didn't even know I had a dime in the shoe." - F.Alou

by EliminateMe on May 1, 2006 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone see the Mirabelli interview?
About how he flew from SF to BOS and rode in a cop car changing on the way to the park at 100 mph.

He's a comedian.

Grant for GM!

by WalrusMan on May 1, 2006 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

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