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can Bonds pull a HR?

Anyone know something about the mechanics of hitting? If Bonds' swing is mostly or all upper body now, I'm wondering if it's actually easier for him to go opposite field rather than pull, for homerun power. I know nothing about the mechanics of hitting unless Krukow is explaining things, but it seems to me that turning on an inside pitch requires healthier legs, whereas going opposite field is more just a natural "uncoiling" of the body that isn't so demanding on bad knees.

Of course, I'm just talking about HR's here. Even if there's a shred of truth to this that doesn't necessarily mean that opposing pitchers shouldn't continue to pitch him primarily away or play the shift against him. Obviously, if you're the other team you want to get him out, not just prevent the homerun. But when Barry has pulled, he's hit mostly grounders or low line drives. I can only recall one fly ball that might have gone out in a different park.

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Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
The front leg is the plant leg. Same for a hitter as a pitcher.  

You plant it, and uncoil your hips around it.  If you think of the body as a series of levers, you will get a better idea

Going the other way per se, shouldn't have anything to do with it as that is mostly a function of where the bathead meets the ball during the swing.

Going the other way as you mean it means swinging with the upperbody primarily and not driving through with the hips against the plant leg.  Its almost an inside out swing.  Only really strong guys  like Bonds can hit it out of the park that way. Most guys just hit weak fly balls, texas leaguers, or soft liners/groundballs.

Clear as mud I bet, huh?

by E Ticket on Apr 27, 2006 7:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
Clear as mud I bet, huh?

Who cares. I just wrote this diary to distract you from your misery over the Giants, E. Heh.

by non sequitur on Apr 27, 2006 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
Does a hobby horse have a wooden d!ck?

by mxmob33 on Apr 27, 2006 8:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna go with "yes".
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f***ing amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 27, 2006 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
This wasn't your question, but he's not getting much to hit inside.  He's getting pitches to hit on the very outside of the plate.  Even he, 3 years ago, would have a hard time pulling these pitches over the right field wall.  Pedro!!  Take note.

by allfrank on Apr 27, 2006 9:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
You're right, allfrank, all he's getting right now are pitches away. The funny part is that this is all because of the early scouting reports, which said he still had the same bat speed, and could still get around on the inside pitch. Joe Morgan said as much on the Sunday Night game a couple of weeks ago, and Bob Melvin alluded to it during the series in MethLab, I mean Arizona.

So everybody started pitching him away, and Barry did what he does better than any athlete I've ever seen -- he adjusted. Now, as you said, he's looking away and not trying to pull those pitches. So, instead of off-the-end-of-the-bat fly balls, he's hitting them out. So now, of course, it's "He can't pull the ball anymore" from the haters. He keeps htting them out to LF, guys are gonna try to bust him in again, and then he'll start pulling the ball again.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f***ing amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 27, 2006 9:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
What I've wondered if the knees would bother his coverage of the outer half of the plate, making it tough to get his legs into those swings.

I've never seen so many all arms swings from Bonds as this season, and I don't think it's because he's all of a sudden getting fooled more in 3 weeks than he does in an entire season.

I'm just wondering if he has confidence to plant that front leg in the correct position to cover those outside pitches.

I'd be the best at everything, if only there weren't so many people better than me. Or, if everyone died, just for a few seconds.

by Daniel on Apr 27, 2006 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
I think he'll be able to cover those outside pitches as long as he doesn't try to pull them. If Bonds flicks a few more outside pitches into the left field bleachers, maybe opposing pitchers will experiment throwing inside more (with strikes, not just brushbacks). That would actually be step 2 in treating Bonds as if he were just a normal great hitter and not Superman. Step 1 would be to stop intentionally walking him in ridiculous situations.

Seeing whether teams start to pitch him differently will certainly make his ABs especially interesting, for me, even if it's painful to watch him hobble around. There was a brief period of this type of suspense last season which lasted maybe two games. When he came back he was good but still a little rusty, and the Dodgers found they could get him out with fastballs. Getting Bonds out with fastballs! You knew it would end as soon as he got his timing back and it did when he splash hit that Kuo fellow.

by non sequitur on Apr 28, 2006 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
maybe opposing pitchers will experiment throwing inside more

Uh, which is what Josh from Hollywood said above.

by non sequitur on Apr 28, 2006 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
So I understand that if Bonds hits a few HRs to left-field the pitchers will eventually adjust and start pitching him inside. My question is: do we really want that right now? I mean, it looks like Barry's physical limitations precludes him from turning on the inside pitches and depositing them in McCovey Cove.

So, right now, I think that we want opposing pitchers to pitch Barry away - and we want Barry to understand that and hit to left field (whether that's only using his arms or whatever). BUT, after the pitchers adjust and start pitching inside again (whenever that is, and if I were the next team we face I'd do it immediately) is Barry physically capable of adjusting back to that and driving inside pitches again? Do we think that he will "get better" soon and then he can handle inside pitches? Or will warmer weather help eventually? Is he just "rusty" right now?

What's the common wisdom here, gang?

Waiting for Travis, Nate, Marcus, and Frandsey

by Lyle on Apr 28, 2006 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
"it looks like Barry's physical limitations precludes him from turning on the inside pitches and depositing them in McCovey Cove."

I don't know where you get that. If he was physically able to spin on inside pitches two weeks ago (2 bullets to RF in AZ off Batista, a seed off the RF wall in SF), then why not now? The only reason he hasn't pulled a HR is becuase he's hit 4 or 5 balls well enough, but just too low.

Remember, as I said above, it was only 2 weeks ago everybody was saying he could still turn on inside pitches, but didn't have the drive in his legs to hurt you on an away pitch. Joe Morgan said it in LA, Bob Melvin in AZ, guys on ESPN, etc. Just because he's proven the latter half of their argument wrong doesn't mean the former is wrong, too. Also, his 4 HRs in Spring training? All to RF, and a couple of them real mammoth shots.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f***ing amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 28, 2006 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
The only possible worry I could see (besides him completely breaking down physically, of course) is that his newfound ability to drive the outside pitch is based on him just sitting on it. That could leave him open inside. Of course, then he could just sit there, but then he would effectively be a guess hitter, who have to sit location on each pitch. That wouldn't mean he couldn't still hit for power, but that he would be much more inconsistant than we've ever seen him.
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f***ing amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 28, 2006 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
if bonds can hit dingers to the opposite field, than what about just hitting to the opposite field, away from the shift?

totally destroys that defense

by bacci40 on Apr 27, 2006 10:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
Uh, I don't ever see any mention of the ever-closing circle of legal damnation surrounding our man Barry. I know ignorance is bliss-hell, that's my credo- but has anyone noticed the latest move on the part of the judicial lynch mob? In a nutshell- Anderson rats out Barry , or goes to jail. Which is something he stated he did not want to do the last time he was pressed for info. What say all of you?
victorfrankenstein

by victor frankenstein on Apr 28, 2006 4:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
I think this falls into the category of "when it happens we will discuss it." I know I can't predict what Anderson is going to do.

And, yes, Bonds can pull a homerun. I hope we see some pitches on the inside from pitchers who have decided he can't.

yob

by Sayhey on Apr 28, 2006 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's easier for Bonds to pull a HR
Than it is to go opposite field. His current injury makes it doubly so. Don't worry about this.
Matt Cain - master of the intentional balk

by Salemicus on Apr 28, 2006 8:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?
Anderson doesn't have to "rat out Barry or go to jail." He merely has to repeat his testimony from the first GJ appearance...yeah, I gave PED's to other athletes, but not to Barry. Yeah, I prepared drug calendars for Barry, as I did for any prospective drug user. But Barry didn't use as far as I know, and if he did, I have no knowledge of it. And oh yeah, I gave him cream and clear, just like I did Gary Sheffield. And I didn't tell either guy what they were. Maybe they knew, maybe they didn't. I don't know.

by TimSchultz on Apr 28, 2006 9:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: can Bonds pull a HR?

Tank yoo velly much, Massa Teem. I go back in kitchen now. Evelything OK.

victorfrankenstein

by victor frankenstein on Apr 28, 2006 6:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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