Carlos Pena

by hammystyle on Mar 9, 2006 3:42 PM PST Comment 23 comments

From Peter Gammons' Weblog on espn.com.

"One of the tough things in the Tigers' camp is that it appears Carlos Pena will get released so the club will have to pay him only a sixth of his $2.8 million salary. Pena still has great power, and when he finds his way to another team and makes some adjustments, he can still be a big offensive player."

Interesting to know. Although I think the Giants are committed to giving Niekro a shot.

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Re: Carlos Pena

Platoon! Make Sweeney the fifth OF

The Dodgers ARE evil.

by irwin on Mar 9, 2006 3:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

When...

was the last time Sabean actually did something we wanted him to?

Fill up the holes in your full heart with details

by kenshin1 on Mar 9, 2006 3:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: When...

I usually like his small moves, it's his big moves that I usually don't like.

Trades: I like all of last years trades, except the Winn trade. Though I would have dealt players earlier.

Alfonzo for Finley was fine.

I liked the Jamey Wright signing [but I wouldn't be virtually guaranteeing him a spot]. And the Todd Greene signing. I could live with the Vizquel. Sweeney was ok as well.

The Dodgers ARE evil.

by irwin on Mar 9, 2006 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Those are good examples...

but I meant "moves we, the lunatic fringe, specifically advocated beforehand". HA! I pulled of a lawyer trick

Fill up the holes in your full heart with details

by kenshin1 on Mar 9, 2006 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Those are good examples...

Damn you...yeah, he is pretty lousy at reading my mind.

Maybe I'll just start advocating horribly stupid moves, so that they won't happen.

Here goes: The Giants need a lefty 1B - Darrin Erstad could fit the bill. Let's send them Cain for him.

The Dodgers ARE evil.

by irwin on Mar 9, 2006 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: When...

"Fire that Colletti and send him through the gates of hell" and viola, now he's the Dodgers GM.

Go Giants!!!

by Martin BiasedGiantsFanatic on Mar 9, 2006 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: When...

>and viola, now he's the Dodgers GM

Frank Viola is the Dodgers GM? Sweet Music to my ears!

"Jefe, would you say I have a plethora of piñatas?" - El Guapo

by leftymalo on Mar 9, 2006 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: When...

His first official move was to appoint new Assistant GMs Steve Sax and Kevin Bass.

"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Mar 10, 2006 12:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: When...

As a former viola player in HS orchestra AND a former HS French student....that would be "voila."

C'est rien. Jouez aux baseballs maintenant.

by Lyle on Mar 11, 2006 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: When...

I still like the Morris signing.

My girlfriend drafted me because I did well on the the wonderlick test

by Goofus on Mar 10, 2006 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Carlos Pena

no. Pena is basically a slightly more polished version of Niekro. He would probably be a little better than Lance this year, but not worth the $2 million+ we'd have to pay for him. That's money that would probably be much better spent on a more significant midseason (unless Sabean really screws up).

"Baseball is life, the rest is just details."

by nick on Mar 9, 2006 4:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

That bit about saving money...

...the Tigers are assuming he would be picked up on waivers, no? If he clears waivers the Tigers would end up paying most of his salary, wouldn't they?

"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Mar 9, 2006 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: That bit about saving money...

I suppose so. If that were the case, I'd definitely advocate picking him up. But if he cleared waivers he'd probably drop to some other team first... this isn't Tom Goodwin we're talking about here. Pena has some value - in fact, he has just a touch more than Niekro. I would never pay 2.3 million for him, but I'd gladly give up 20% of that.

"Baseball is life, the rest is just details."

by nick on Mar 9, 2006 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: That bit about saving money...

Nice Tom Goodwin reference.

My girlfriend drafted me because I did well on the the wonderlick test

by Goofus on Mar 10, 2006 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Carlos Pena

who hits right-handed pitchers better than Niekro. [so it seems. I am not sold that Niekro's huge platoon split will hold up]

The Dodgers ARE evil.

by irwin on Mar 9, 2006 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Carlos Pena

I'd love the Giants to pick up Pena. While I like his power and his potential, its his glove I like most. I'm just spoiled by all these years watching a gold glove at first. Perhaps Niekro will turn into a quality glove but he's not there yet.

by Sayhey on Mar 9, 2006 4:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Re: Carlos Pena

I think Pena would be a great idea.

by Dan from NM on Mar 9, 2006 6:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Forgetting something, aren't we?

The other when is, "When was Gammons actually right about something?"

"When I think of how many times the Enemy has tried to kill Gary Busey..."

by multiphasic on Mar 9, 2006 9:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Re: Forgetting something, aren't we?

i think he once wrote something along the lines of "Hank Aaron currently holds the home run record with 755." I'm pretty sure he got that right.

"Baseball is life, the rest is just details."

by nick on Mar 10, 2006 5:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Carlos Pena

There's no way in hell we get a 1B with a career batting average of .243. Even if he is better than Niekro (which he clearly is - better OBA and power, unless Detroit is some kinda pseudo-canadian colorado)

by zenbitz on Mar 10, 2006 10:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Re: Carlos Pena

If he is better than Niekro, why not get him? It costs next to nothing.

Check out his L/R splits.

Also, Comerica is very much a pitchers park.

If someone asks you to take an extreme tequila shot, *say no*.

by irwin on Mar 10, 2006 10:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Carlos Pena

I'm not saying we should or shouldn't get him.
I'm saying that I know my Sabeans and it's a moot point. No way would he sign a guy who's batting average was that low. Unless he was a slick fielding catcher. Even then.

by zenbitz on Mar 10, 2006 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs