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Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.
And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the San Francisco baseball dream.
I have a dream that one day this team will rise up and finally win a championship: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that the Yankees are a bunch of grabby championship hogs."
I have a dream that one day on the fog-kissed hills of San Francisco, the sons of former Jamey Wright supporters and the sons of former Brad Hennessey supporters will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that one day even the East Bay, a region sweltering with a special kind of insanity that can only be created by following the Warriors, will be transformed into an oasis of Giants fandom.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the chemically-enhanced star they root for, but by how many cars they tip over when the chemically-enhanced star wins a championship for them.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day, down in Southern California, with its vicious Dodger partisans, with its general manager having his moustache dripping with the words of "my friend, Tommy Lasorda" and "loaded farm system" -- one day right there in Southern California, little Dodger heathen boys and heathen girls will be made fun of for letting the Giants win the World Series.
I have a dream today!
Unfortunately, that dream would need to start with the Giants winning the division. And I can't predict that in good conscience.
NL West
Dodgers 88-74
Giants 85-77
Padres 81-81
Diamondbacks 76-86
Rockies 71-91
Both the Giants and Dodgers have injury concerns. Both teams have defensive concerns. Jeff Kent starts his steep decline.........now. Brett Tomko's art requires a level of pathos only continued losing can provide. J.D. Drew and Nomar Garciaparra will injure each other by hugging in that manly way, where you quickly pull the other guy close and kind of whomp on his back. Yet, one can easily rebut each of these perceived faults with similar problems for the Giants.
Where some of the pessimism comes from: when choosing between a very old and brittle team, and a sorta old and brittle team, it makes sense to choose the latter. Where the rest of the pessimism comes from: I can't see Barry Bonds making it through the season intact. If Bonds plays 125 games, I see no reason why the Giants can't win 90 games, but that's not something to count on. Hope for, absolutely, but not count on.
I like the Giants rotation; I really do. Jason Schmidt has looked great this spring, and Noah Lowry is still underrated. I've made my positive outlook on Matt Morris, at least in the short-term, known. Matt Cain might not be Tom Seaver yet, but he should be better than Kirk Rueter. Jamey Wright's family loves him very, very much.
I like the Giants bullpen, too. If Armando Benitez can't find what he has lost, I'm confident a young arm will be able to take his place. The Fresno bullpen will provide some fine emergency help, as it did last season.
There's a bad feeling floating around, though, and I can't shake it. The fanboy in me wants to override it, and throw daisy petals around while predicting 95 wins. It could happen. In a just universe, it should happen. Maybe we can make it happen if we concentrate real hard like the freaks in Dark City. I just can't sugarcoat my doubts.
The good news is I'm often terribly wrong. I kind of pride myself on it.
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But that was...wow....amazing. How long have you been working on that?
Actually...
And to all y'all haters: Who here picked the Giants in spring of '97. Me, that's who. I have street cred you couldn't even begin to fathom when it comes to picking the Giants. So back the hell off. I will quit this damn site, and give it to, I don't know, Kenshin, or something.
I just can't predict to Bonds to be healthy. It's almost a superstition thing.
by Grant Brisbee on Apr 1, 2006 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
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And it is a good dream, and one to be rewarded. But like you, I can't see this team winning 80 - let alone 95. When old teams collapse, they do so brutually - and I worry that this year has "Arizona ThirteenAndAHalfBacks 2004" written all over it.
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"Do you know what it takes to pick the Dodgers to win the division on McCovey Chronicles? It takes BRASS BALLS to pick the Dodgers to win the division on McCovey Chronicles."
by paleepalou on Mar 31, 2006 1:49 PM PST reply actions
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Alec Baldwin
by paleepalou on Mar 31, 2006 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
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"I believe I did what honor dictated, and that belief sustains me... Except for a slight desire to be dead, which I'm sure will pass."
by Josh from Hollywood on Mar 31, 2006 2:07 PM PST reply actions
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OT: What is the MCC opinion of Carlos Lee? Melvin Mora?
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by nick @ McCovey Chronicles on Mar 31, 2006 2:13 PM PST reply actions
Screw that....
Derek Lowe and Grady Little together again just seems like a Giants Division title to me.
Giants win by 4 games.
Sugar is cheap
Giants 85-79
Dodgers 85-79
D-backs 79-85
Padres 78-84
Rockies 73-89
I've given the matter a lot of objective consideration, and I truly believe that the Giants will win the one-game tiebreaker.
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"My predictions.
Giants 105-57 (Barry hits 49 homers)
Dodgers 88- 74
Padres 82-80
D'backs 75-87
Rockies 40-122 (this is one awful team)
Giants sweep Cardinals and Mets to win NL Championship
Giants win in seven against the Yankees on a dramatic 9th inning home run by Bonds off Rivera. He retires. Rivera not Bonds.
But, then I ALWAYS predict the Giants are going to win it all."
Yes, it is cut and paste from the other thread, but if Grant can rip off MLK, Jr., I can rip off myself. No points for originality, but lots for continued belief in the glorious future of the franchise. Unlike, some who won't be mentioned ... again ... Grant.
Honestly, I just don't see the Giants breaking down like they did last year. If they stay reasonably healthy, they compete and I like their chances. Very likely a good old Giants-Dodgers race down to the wire, but one the good guys win this time.
My nightmare is some rabid baseball fan, egged on by the self-righteous sports media, tries to pull a "Tonya Harding" on Barry in order to "save baseball" and the season is in the toilet.
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Dodgers 80 wins
Padres 72 wins
Rockies 65 wins
Giants 88 wins.
Boo! Hiss!
My prediction:
Giants 105-57 (stolen from Sayhey)
D'backs 84-78
Padres 78-84
Rockies 72-90
Dodgers 70-92
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For the record, I think they'll be awful this season. Like last year, but without that late season play-off tease.
by Punch Rockgroin on Mar 31, 2006 3:23 PM PST reply actions
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by gdog @ McCovey Chronicles on Mar 31, 2006 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
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This is a team whose questions center around staying healthy over the course of 162 games, not one that doesn't have the talent to go far in the playoffs. They win the division, they can win it all.
I don't care if they win it with 65 wins...
Just get there, kids... it don't have to be pretty.
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Our starters 1-5 are better than theirs. Our Outfield is clearly better than theirs (Only Drew would even make our squad). We have a better offense. They have an edge in bullpen assuming Gagne is back to 90%. They probably have a defensive edge in the OF and its a wash on the infield.
Worst case scenario for either team is what happened last year (Giants win 75 games and Fodgers win 71).
We have one more edge. The Fodgers are the most vile vermin ever to participate in organized or disorganized professional or amateur sports. Edge to Giants.
It may be close, but our team is simply better. Duck the Fodgers.
by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2006 3:40 PM PST reply actions
Lowry signs
by gdog @ McCovey Chronicles on Mar 31, 2006 3:43 PM PST reply actions
BREAKING NEWS!!
Pitcher Noah Lowry has reached preliminary agreement on a four-year contract with the San Francisco Giants, a baseball source told ESPN.com.
The deal is believed to be worth more than $9 million guaranteed and includes a fifth-year option that could bring the total value of the contract to about $17 million. If the option is exercised it will take Lowry through the 2010 season, when he becomes eligible for free agency.
No Whammy, No Whammy...
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by PacBellBoozer on Apr 2, 2006 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
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by orangeandblackattack on Mar 31, 2006 3:53 PM PST reply actions
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Fantastic predictions! I couldn't agree with you more.
Sincerely,
Dayne Perry
(You should be ashamed)
wait a minute......
by paleepalou on Mar 31, 2006 4:14 PM PST reply actions
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Good Evil Verdict
Schmidt Lowe Schmidt
Morris Penny Tie
Lowry Perez Lowry
Cain Tomko Cain
Wright Seo Seo.
Rotation = Giants 2 to Dodgers 2.
Corriea Houlton Correia
Fassero Carter Fassero
Taschner Kuo Taschner
Munter Osoria Munter
Kline Baez Baez
Worrell Brazoban Worrell
Benitez Gagne Gagne
Bullpen = Giants 5 and Dodgers 2.
Lineup:
Matheny Navarro Matheny
Niekro Garciaparra Garciaparra
Durham Kent Kent
Vizquel Furcal Furcal
Feliz Mueller Mueller
Bonds Cruz, Jr? Bonds
Winn Lofton Winn
Alou Drew Tie
Lineup = Giants 3 and Dodgers 4
Bench
Greene Alomar Greene
Sweeney Saenz Sweeney
Vizcaino Robles Robles
Finley Ledee Finley
Ellison Werth/Repko Ellison
Bench = Giants 4 and Dodgers 1
Conclusion:
The Dodgers' slightly better line up will not be enough to make up for their lack of depth and weak bullpen. Dodgers will start strong, but grow weaker over the season. Giants will beat them out for the division title in the final week of the season.
by orangeandblackattack on Mar 31, 2006 4:29 PM PST reply actions
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by nostocksjustbonds on Mar 31, 2006 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
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Well, injuries aside--either I'll look good or I won't have any control over what happens--I believe that the division will go like this:
Giants
Dodgers
Padres
D-Backs
Rockies
To add some fun to things, I think that the baseball Gods and one angry and motivated Barry Bonds (demi-God) will take the Giants to the World Series. I mean, isn't this just one of those kinds of years?
I'm not happy with our age, but Giants to greater heights.
Go Giants!
by Kent @ McCovey Chronicles on Mar 31, 2006 6:06 PM PST reply actions
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Bonds plays = 120+ Games:
Giants Boatrace this most malignant of divisions.
Bonds plays = < 81 Games:
Tune into The World Series of Pinnochle
Big Road Apple Sports hosted by Mike "Drooling" Lupica
Bonds = >80 but < 120 it could be intersting...or not. It will depend on how Felipe and Jobu mangle the pitching staff this year.
Despite protestations from Magowan and Company.
We are still a one-trick pony. :(
As for the Orcs from Mt Blue Doom: May they go ye forth and engage in self-copulation.
As for the Padroxback pudding pie:
Who The F-bomb Gives A S-bomb
by E Ticket on Mar 31, 2006 7:28 PM PST reply actions
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by prospecthound on Mar 31, 2006 8:56 PM PST reply actions
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Duck the Fodgers!
by zachls on Mar 31, 2006 11:47 PM PST reply actions
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I also think orangeandblackattack has the analysis down cold. The Giants are a better team, and should win the division* (*void where prohibited by mental health professionals. Your experience may vary. Contest ends Oct. 1st. If ballgame persists for longer than four hours, consult a physician).
Grant, I think it's healthy that you have some skepticism about the Giants this year. How could we not after last year? And yet..... I've been to the Lorraine Motel; I've looked up at the balcony; and I can safely say that, although the dreamer may be gone, the Dream is STILL ALIVE.
San Francisco: 91-71
Los Angeles: 87-75
Arizona: 80-82
San Diego: 71-91
Colorado: 68-94
D'backs, Pads, and Rockies only have one good starter each (Estes is the Pads #2! nuff said). I think Barry will be Barry, just slightly less often. Cain will finish 3rd in the Rookie of the Year balloting. Lowry will establish himself. Munter will be the saviour of the bullpen. Niekro will be acceptable. Vizquel will still flash the leather. Matheny will still surprise you doubters. Frandsen will shine in his 3-week fill-in stint as our starting 2B, giving us hope for next year and a reality check for Durham. Jack Taschner's mom will post on MCC. On the strength of our pitching, we'll beat the Mets in the NLDS and the Cards in the NLCS.
by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Apr 2, 2006 12:42 PM PDT reply actions

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