Yay, us!
You probably have a lot of things going on right now. Work or school. Obstacles in your personal or family life. It ain't easy, and now you have a holiday that's impossible to ignore. If you're taken, you might be stressing out over the execution of well-thought out plans. You might be trying to figure out a way to explain why there aren't plans, and doing it in a fashion that exonerates you completely. If you're single, you have a whole day to ponder the state of the non-union. It's a day to ponder subjects with some serious heft. Am I going to die alone? Is there someone out there for me? Hygiene: more important than I give it credit for?
So, on a day like this, it would be cruel and irresponsible to give you another thing to think about. It's Jeff Fassero's turn in the projection rotation, but I'll wait a day. That's just too much to take on right now. Forget I even brought it up. When things settle down, you'll probably be grateful to take a few hours to really dig into the subject of Jeff Fassero. Not now, though. We all understand it's not the time.
It would be more appropriate now to write a valentine of my one, albeit one of a platonic nature. The contracts of Duane Kuiper and Mike Krukow were extended for five years, which is just about the best news of the offseason. Anyone who has listened to other announcing teams around the league knows how fortunate we are. More than a few teams have some real duds calling 162 games for them.
Sure, Kruk can get a little overzealous with the eliminator pen. And, yes, there comes a time when we're more interested in a fourth-inning at-bat than the 45th kid with ice cream all over their face. But when it comes to the important parts of calling a baseball game, the combination has the art down. With an almost perfect balance of knowledge, humor, and familiarity, Kruk and Kuip are almost always entertaining to listen to, and they make the game better. That's really the only question to ask when evaluating announcing crews. Do they make the game more enjoyable to watch or listen to? The answer for Kruk and Kuip is a resounding "yes".
Every so often, though, Krukow would be the national color guy for a Fox game in San Francisco. Maybe there were some ideas kicking around in the brain of a weasely Fox executive, as he wondered how much it would take to steal Krukow away. And if you're Krukow, you have to wonder about the grass on the other side of the fence. It's only human, no matter how content he might be with the Giants. The contract extension takes away the chance of Krukow becoming the next Bob Brenly or Joe Morgan in the next five years. Krukow knows baseball, and he knows how to relate the knowledge without coming off as arrogant. He also drives fans of the A's and Dodgers up the wall, so he must be doing something right.
Kuiper already left once, cheating on us with the expansion Colorado Rockies in 1993. The experiment didn't last, mercifully, and Kuiper returned to announce real baseball. He's the best play-by-play man of any former player out there, and it isn't really close. Where most ex-jocks are content to sit on the sidelines of a broadcast, offering opinions when prompted, Kuiper sounds like he went to school to announce. He sounds like he was doing the same things as Jon Miller when he was younger, which was sitting in the upper deck of an empty stadium with a tape recorder, calling the game. Dude's smooth.
Oh, and we also have Jon Miller, who will certainly go down as one of the all-time great announcers in baseball history. Dave Flemming is a toolsy prospect, and the early returns are certainly positive. It's an embarrassing amount of depth, and the extensions guarantee we'll enjoy it for a while. Sometimes being Giants fan isn't all angst and black storm clouds....
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Ode To Love
Roses are never orange,
And violets are seldom black.
But Barry's swing is still sweet;
He'll carry us on his back.
by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Feb 14, 2006 1:15 PM PST reply actions
Amen.
Grant, this post gives me a chance to say something I've long wanted to say, which is that the Padres announcers are so insanely bad that it has almost -- almost but not quite -- made me hate the Friars even more than the evil ones. I don't even know what their names are, but they suck sooooo bad. There are just so many examples but the best I can think of is during the first game at Petco one of those dweebs actually begged for a ball to drop. Like was actually going "please drop, puhlllleaseeeee DropPPPP!" which is just pathetic.
I have no problems with homey announcers, but begging for balls to drop is the stuff of overcommitted fans who've had too much to drink. And I have myself for that.
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We are really lucky.
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like Ted Leitner who
gets so excited that
his brain
can't keep up with his
cementances errrr sentences
huh?
Yup, I'm down in SoCal and it's pretty much Vin or the Mighty 1090. Senility or just flat incompetence. Makes Greg Papa seem synonymous with John Keats.
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by lyricalkiller on Feb 15, 2006 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
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hahahahah. how prescient they were. disgusting, twangy-nasaly old bastards.
by E Ticket on Feb 14, 2006 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
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I misread that at first and thought you were talking about the years of Leslie Nielsen. Which actually would have been pretty entertaining.
"Surely you don't think Feliz should bat cleanup!"
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btw...wtf happened with greenwald anyway? he goes to nyy, retires and then last season he shows up on an As telecast?
actually, when alou retires he will join kruk in the booth
"hey man...he threw a ball twice in a row..ELIMINATE HIM!
no.... i couldn't resist! heheheheheh
by E Ticket on Feb 14, 2006 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
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Abundance of riches
Fleming has really grown on me... he would be the smartest and least annoying guy in a lot of broadcast booths across the country.
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Have you heard him filling in for Tolbert on KNBR? He's got a good breadth of knowledge, especially in discussing the Winter Olympics.
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Kuip, by the way, has the game's best home run call. "OOOOUTTA HERE!"
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As much as I hate the evil in blue I have to say that Vin Scully is pretty entertaining. Maybe not in a "this guy is a great announcer" kind of a way but maybe in a "that was one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard and I kinda liked it" sorta way. I was watching on mbl.tv last season when we put up 4 runs in the first inning, and he says "...and as the national anthem still reverberates through chavez ravine, the Giants have already staked themselves to a 4 nothing leaaaad." I guess it's not the same without the voice.
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by tk on Feb 14, 2006 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
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The guys from the d-backs (don't know their names) are awful, just terrible.
by amoose on Feb 14, 2006 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
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by non sequitur on Feb 14, 2006 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
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Oh, and I just assumed that replacing Steve Lyons with any other human being in the world would improve the quality of the broadcast team by default. That was before I heard Mark Grace.
by Fog City Blues on Feb 14, 2006 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
er, what was said above
I'm reluctant to admit it, but if they weren't there (almost) every night, I'd go to the ballpark much more often. Their being here will probably be especially important in a post-Bonds world.
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by E Ticket on Feb 14, 2006 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
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by E Ticket on Feb 14, 2006 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
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Uh, sure I do. I was just, you know, taking creative license.
In fact, I knew his name had two "m"s, spelled it correctly the first time, and didn't just go back and edit the post. That's how good I am.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 14, 2006 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
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If the Giants announcing team is Led Zeppelin, then Vin Scully is Black Sabbath, the Cubs announcers are Motley Crue, and the Padres announcers are Spinal Tap. That would make the A's announcers... Audioslave?
by David A. Arnott on Feb 14, 2006 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
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by David A. Arnott on Feb 14, 2006 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
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I'd say that Flemming would be John Paul Jones, putting out a steady back beat of information. Kuiper would be John Bonham, doing the same but going out on his own now and then. After that it gets harder. I'll give Krukow to Jimi Paige and Miller to Robert Plant.
Any arguments?
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by David A. Arnott on Feb 14, 2006 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
I know Miller is respected...
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Sincerely,
roberalejanranez mercucamriejadaez
by E Ticket on Feb 14, 2006 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
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by EliminateMe on Feb 15, 2006 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
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And, it's not "Flemming" to me, it's just plain flegm.
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But it's a deep crew when he is barely a bench player.
Anybody notice Ted Robinson calling speed skating? Weird.
BB
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by E Ticket on Feb 14, 2006 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
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Or Buck Martinez and Jim Palmer doing Orioles games.
When I first heard Flemming this year I didn't like him. It sounded like he was trying too hard to talk like he was on radio. He got a lot better as the season progressed, though.
As much as I love Kruk and Kuip my soft spot is still for Greenwald. But we've been blessed with astonishingly great announcers for nearly two decades.
As for Valentine's Day, FTD failed to deliver the flowers I ordered to my gf's workplace. Damn them!
The Kid Stays in the Picture
That being said, I liked Joe in general. He was dead-weight, but he had a good sense of humor ("I had a no-hitter going for most of high school. For most of high school, I had no hits.") and he absolutely SCHOOLED Jon, Kruk, and Kuip on Barry's walkoffs after Bobby passed away. "Where have you been Barry Bonds, I've been worried SICK about you!" is arguably the greatest call of the Barry era.
KNBR insists on replaying Kuip's call, which was good as always, but it wasn't sufficiently epic for what was truly an epic homer. It's a shame that Angel got so thoroughly doghoused that his one great moment as a Giants broadcaster got tossed in the dumpster.
It lives on as my Windows startup sound, of course, displacing even "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that," which more accurately captures the essence of my computer.
by multiphasic on Feb 15, 2006 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
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by David A. Arnott on Feb 15, 2006 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
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then the 6th inning... alou starts running laps to the mound. i mutter a couple of "ah shits." turn the ribs over. "we got a 7 run lead--relax" i say to myself
7th inning. we're on the 5th pitcher of the game, 3rd in the inning. a couple of "fuckin idiot" cause one my neighbors to look over and ask: "time for a change?" i throw a spatula at him.
8th inning. the ribs are burnt.. i forget to put the corn on. walker mopes in from the pen, the remains of a cha-cha bowl hanging from his goatee, to pitch to a left-handed pitch hitter. i throw a paving block through the fence, and accidently kill a squirel. a guy from 5 blocks away phones to ask us to keep it down.
9th inning. the bbq has exploded and set one of the dogs on fire. alou has made his 10th pitching change of the game. beneitiz comes in and walks in the go-ahead run. the fence is now demolished. i can hear firetrucks and police sirens now. kruk eliminates both balldudes and a kid with an ice cream cone.
bottom of the ninth. kruk says: "hey, this one's in the bag, bonds is due up 3rd this inning." I start to simmer down just a bit. durham reaches on a hbp. feliz grounds into double play. bonds is intentionally walked. mo hits one into the centerfield alley but bonds snaps a hammy between 1st and 2nd. niekro is lifted for jose v to pinchhit who pops up on the first pitch. kuip screams "and we're going home!" kruk reminds us there is still a lot of baseball to go and prompltly eliminates felipe and sabaen. there is a swat team breaking down my front door and the fire department fails to salvage anything but the television.
i hear there is an inmate team at san quentin. I think i can still a curve for a strike.
yeah. giants baseball. its what for dinner
by E Ticket on Feb 14, 2006 8:03 PM PST reply actions
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Either that, or he's chanelling ee cummings through Ray Ratto.
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Those years with McCarver in orange and black...glad that's over.
by zachls on Feb 14, 2006 11:04 PM PST reply actions
Count yourselves lucky...
That being said...count yourselves sooooooo very lucky. As an unfortunate resident of SUCKRAMENTO I have to put up with that idiot Napier for all things sports in this god-forsaken cow town. I know what you're saying, but it's the crappy NBA, only half the number of games, but what you don't realize is that because it's the only game in town, it gets covered all day, every day, year round. This idiot has the local radio and TV by the ballz and not in a good way.
Thank god for Kruk and Kuip providing some insightful, intelligent, and downright hilarious commentary. Maybe the screaming pale tomato will learn something from the boys that do it do it like rockstars.
"IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT...YOU DON'T LIKE NBA BASKETBALL !!!" ~ I think I'm going hurl
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Pete
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I always liked Ted Robinson. Kruk & Kuip, Ted & Flem. There you go. Save some money and spend it on pitching.
by Bigshot on Feb 16, 2006 9:08 AM PST reply actions
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While I agree that Miller seems more like a "hired hand" than Kruk and Kuip, keep in mind he grew up in the bay area and was a Giants fan.
His stories of playing strat-o-matic and calling the games as a kid make believe he has a true love for the game.
Personally, I like the fact that he's not afraid to call a player out when he does something wrong.

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