One through five.
This is the sixth installment of a riveting investigation into how the Giants are shaping up next year. The third base discussion can be found here, catcher discussion here, first base is here, outfield here and the middle infield is discussed here. In the movie of this series, both Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman are in talks to play myself.
With Kirk Rueter going to the DL with a pulled suck muscle, the Giants called on grizzled minor league vet Brian Cooper to start a game. He pitched well, but the bullpen blew it for him. It remains to be seen whether he will be voted a World Series share.
The rotation was supposed to be, and stop me if you've heard this one before, a strength this year. With Bonds out, there was concern about the offense. While not setting the world ablaze, the collective offensive output has not been embarrassing. The bullpen had a miserable start, but has pitched much better over the past two months. But the starting pitching, oh, that starting pitching.
Here's how we entered the season:
#2 - A flame-throwing journeyman who finally put it all together.
#3 - A solid, inning-eating youngster who could take it to the next level any day now.
#4 - A likeable human horseshoe who left his ability to be a good pitcher at his ex-girlfriend's house in the late `90s, and can't work up the nerve to call her to get it back.
#5 - A young lefty who used a plus-changeup to sail through the National League last season.
#2 - A flame-throwing journeyman who finally put it all together, only to step back and realize there were two leftover pieces. Now, what were those for....
#3 - A young lefty who lost his plus-changeup, but found it on his path to becoming a true ace, Giants style, complete with control issues and high pitch counts.
#4 - A young pitcher currently with more heart than ability.
#5 - A young pitcher currently with more heart than ability.
Jerome Williams, an above-average pitcher at every level he has every pitched at, had a bad couple of months. Obviously, he was immediately traded for an expensive reliever on a team that didn't really want him anymore. It stands to reason the Giants could have procured an Alfredo Simon-type prospect, or even the real thing, and packaged him with the closest thing the Giants had to a Ricky Ledee-style player, which they certainly do have in Michael Tucker. That's what the Giants got for an expensive reliever on a team that didn't really want him anymore. You'd think the market had been set. Now, the Giants need pitching, and the free-agent market is going to consist of Jeff Fassero and 42 pitchers who will be paid tens of millions more than they're worth. Williams might have helped. But I digress. The rash caused by that trade is going to need more than penicillin.
Schmidt and Lowry are the only givens in the 2006 rotation. The rest of the staff is up in the air. Kevin Millwood might come cheap enough, but he'll most likely get the 4 year/$32 M contract the free-agent starters from last year found on their hotel room pillow like a little mint. AJ Burnett is a good pitcher, soon to be a multi-millionaire, and will still get the multi-millions even after his elbow goes "sprooooing!" and shoulder goes "ker-floooosh!", which might have happened in the past thirty seconds. (Note: Not true, as ESPN does not have a story about Burnett's serious injury. Please check again in thirty seconds.)
Hennessey is looking better, but has an incredibly limited track record of success in the minors. Kevin Correia combines Tomko's good stuff with Tomko's penchant for gopher balls, and wraps that package up with dodgy control. Matt Cain is 20, and should not be counted on for anything. If he happens to bust out, that's a privilege, not a right. Jesse Foppert is...oh, right. Ahem. David Aard...oh, right. The rest of the farm system would need to produce a major surprise in order to help the rotation more than the above pitchers.
So, where now? Give your best guess as to the rotation of the 2006 Giants, because I give up. Schmidt, Lowry, maybe Hennessey, and?
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My Guess.....
- Schmidt
- Lowry
- a. Free Agent Signed righty or b. Tomko
- a. Hennessey or b. Free Agent Signed lefty
- Umm......Fassero?
Can't count on Cain?
- Schmidty
- Lowry
- Padilla
- Lohse *
- Cain
Interesting deal...
OPS by month for Fonzie:
April - .996
May - .643
June - .590
July - .445
August - .604
Here's to a scorching road trip that convinces someone to make a run at him before August 31st.
My prediction
Schmidt
Lowry
Cain
Tomko (surprise, surprise)
Free Agent who makes us say, "Why him?"
This was my exact guess
I am assuming that the Giants will sign Tomko under the "you have to follow Tomko closely to know how good he can be" philosophy, although they could also employ the "you have to follow Tomko closely to know how maddening he is" strategy and run away. Either way they should offer him arbitration. Which they won't.
I have no idea what sort of free agent Sabean will go after. Tomko was a bargain in 2004, but rumor has it that we only signed him because Darren Oliver was asking for too much money. So who knows? Pencil in "Jamey Wright" as my "Why him?" dark horse, though.
Scary
And besides, don't you think it would be therapeutic for the Giants to sit down in an arbitration session with Tomko and spell out all of their frustrations with him? Perhaps they'll put together a video montage of Tomko meltdowns, and compile quotes from this site.
Question, slightly off topic, but related...
About the same time that
Oh, then he got moved to the bullpen.
Merkin in Relief
06 - they go in house
Lowry
Hennessey
Correia
Cain
If they are out of it in mid June, deal Schmidt and recall Misch or Burres. I wouldn't be suprised if Valdez is now a reliever for good, but they may also want to limit his innings.
Rotation
Lowry
Cain
Rain
Pray for a hurricane!
by The Balls of Summer on Aug 8, 2005 4:28 PM PDT reply actions
06-Excuse My Ignorance
Schmidt
Tomko-I think, if he wants to be back here
Lowry
Hennesy
Free Agent in the #2-5 quality. If Tomko does not come back, maybe Correia is your #5.
Not too exciting. But maybe Cain can make his way in, if he has a big spring and the rest of the rotation looks set.
If the offense is better, they will coast with what they have and try to bolster at the trade deadline.
Well, color me fuschia and call me witty...
Schmidt
Lowry
Hennessey (Sabean loves quality starts towards the end of the season. all it'll take is one or two more for him to be pencilled in)
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free agent TBA
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Corriea (because I just busted fried undisclosed amounts of brain matter thinking of someone else)
Knowing Sabean...
- Lowry
- Jason Jennings
- Cain until he gets injured, then Correia
- Hennessey until he gets injured, then Misch
- Cal Eldred
By August next year
Brian Cooper
Matt Kinney
Seung Song
Steven Randolph
Or do you prefer
Lance Niekro
Joe Niekro
Phil Niekro
JT Snow
Jack Snow
by The Balls of Summer on Aug 8, 2005 5:22 PM PDT reply actions
Pulled suck muscle
I don't know whether I should laugh or cry, but I'm laughing. I wasn't around in the Boof days... can someone confirm that Grant was this amusing when the Giants didn't suck? I'd hate to think that this site will go to hell when the team turns it around. Or that it won't even be an issue until 2013.
Jason Jennings
Schmidt
Lowry
Jennings
Hennessey
Revolving Door
Loiza might be a possibility. Maybe one of the Twins' back-of-the-rotation guys. Cain late in the year. Merkin if he has a great spring. Correia if he has a string of good starts at the end of this year.
The Boof Days
jonathan sanchez
sanchez is now pitching in norwich....his k/bb is over 4-1
while he might not be ready in 06 (he needs to work on endurance) he may end up getting the call
in mid 06
it looks like both simon and merkin are staying in the pen
Where did you find Sanchez to Norwich?
Next year
We're looking at Paul Byrd as our free agent acquisition.
honestly
Paul Byrd is my secular god
by lyricalkiller on Aug 9, 2005 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Give me Millwood!
Still, give us Millwood and the rotation looks great:
Schmidt
Millwood
Lowry
Hennessy
Cain
Dump Rueter. Dump Tomko. Dump the idea of using Correia as a starter. Dump Fassero.
Really, these are not difficult decisions. Concerned about the payroll? Don't be. You've only got 1-2 more years of Bonds before this franchise takes a very long, dark rebuilding phase in which we can cut that salary back plenty as we get young. Please, Sabean - PLEASE - make one last good run at this thing. You put your eggs in this aging basket - fine, can't change that now. But I hope he has the sense to sign a really solid #2 starter. If not, it's all for waste.
In the context of everything I've just said, even the Randy Winn trade makes sense. Even (gulp) the Latroy Hawkins trade is lessened from a total F- to a more palatable C-... The Giants need to make one last, desperate run at a championship with this group. Lock, load, take your shot. If the wheels come off next year, begin the purging...
06 Rotation
- A true ace - having rediscovered his control;
- A young lefty who changes up the hitters who were catching on to him;
- A mid-level free agent, either Tomko or Padilla (I really liked what I saw of Padilla a couple years ago);
- A young pitcher whose ability catches up with his heart;
- Either a really young pitcher with lots of ability or ?

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