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But Kline is *left-handed*! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

"Oh, my goodness. This guy's choking on something!" Forks were dropped. People stood to see what was going on.

"Wait, he's not just choking," the same voice yelled. "He also has a poisonous coral snake in his left boot!"

The crowd that was slowly gathering took a sudden step back. Choking is interesting. Snakes are freaky. The afflicted stranger couldn't breathe, yet he had to remain motionless, hoping the snake wouldn't bite.

"What do we do?"

"Get the snake out first!"

"No, you have to do the Heimlich maneuver first, then the snake!"

"But if you jar him too much trying to get the food out, the snake will bite."

"Understood. However, there just isn't much time for anything when a man is running out of air. You have to take that risk!"

The crowd instantly split into factions. There was the pro-snake removal faction. There was the pro-Heimlich faction. They started to shout at each other. A man emerged from the shadows, and jumped on the lunch counter.

"Enough!", the man screamed. "Don't you people realize what's going on here? Have you lost sight of the big picture? We need to act. We need to act NOW!" Almost everyone in the restaurant started to feel instant shame. There was a man that needed help, and here they were, squabbling over just how to hel...

The mystery man on top of the lunch counter continued. "If I'm not mistaken, I think these are the last of the buffalo wings on this man's plate. Good god. Are you people insane?" Brows were furrowed. Shame gave way to confusion.

"You, do you work here?"

"Yes. Yes, I do."

"Good. How are we doing on buffalo wings?"

"Uh, we still have a couple of boxes of regular buffalo wings in the freezer."

The mystery man exhaled as if he hadn't taken a breath in a week. He rolled his eyes. This wasn't much of a problem at all.

"I mean, we have regular buffalo wings, but I think those were the last of the extra-spicy wings."

The mystery man's eyes closed, and his head tilted back. Nothing's going to be easy today. "I'm sorry. What did you just say?"

"Yeah. We haven't had a shipment in a while."

"I...I...there's not much time. Is there a phone in the restaurant?"

"Of course. It's right under the clock there."

The mystery man picked up the phone, and pounded three numbers.

"What city? The whole damned Bay Area. The number? Lady, I need you to listen, and I need you to listen good. I need the number of every Chili's around." He was put on hold, but was able to force a smile at the still-confused throng of onlookers. He had a plan.

"Yes, is this the San Rafael Chili's? Thank god. Look, I'm calling from a restaurant in San Francisco, and I need uncooked extra-spicy buffalo wings. Is that something you carry?  Right...  Mm-hmm.... Hey, I don't care how old the wings are, but I need them, like, yesterday. Right.... okay... I can understand that. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to send a taxi over with more cash than you would think I'd be willing to pay for old buffalo wings. But that's just how I roll. You're going to put the frozen wings in the car, and I'm going to avoid a complete meltdown. Do you understand? Thank you, oh, thank you. If you aren't rewarded in this life, you will be in the next. Thank you."

He hung up the phone, and jumped back on the counter. "People! Everything is going to be okay! We are going to get more buffalo wings!" He hopped down, arms thrust towards the heavens in the universal sign of triumph. Yesssss! He ran out of the diner, pumping his fists, grinning ear to ear. No one else could even say a word.

Meanwhile, the man died BECAUSE WE NEED HITTING AND STARTING PITCHING, YOU FREAK! DO YOU UNDERSTAND? THE SNAKE REPRESENTED OFFENSE AND THE FOOD LODGED IN THE THROAT WAS STARTING PITCHING, OR VICE VERSA, I DON'T CARE! QUIT FUTZING AROUND WITH THE BULLPEN, BRIAN, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY! WHAT KIND OF SICK MANIAC WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE ANOTHER TEAM CASH TO EVEN OUT A TRADE LIKE THIS? RARARHHGHGHG.... GRRENEFNNNGGGGRRRRR....

The skinny: Given the choice of Steve Kline at the $4M we're essentially paying for him, or giving LaTroy Hawkins to another team for free and applying that $4M to the solution to a real problem while hoping the remaining and talented bullpen members can avoid wetting the bed, it doesn't seem like much of a choice at all. Hawkins was much better than Kline last year against left-handed hitters. Man. Talk about buying a new Glade Plug-in for a bathroom on the Hindenburg....

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OK
That was good. Real good. I feel much better now. And a little hungry.

by Dan from NM on Dec 6, 2005 8:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: OK
got any wings?

by xanthan on Dec 6, 2005 8:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: But Kline is *left-handed*! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
I thought that the bit was going to be a meditation on LaTroy Hawkins and whether he was a choker or merely snake-bit.

But I think you nailed the essential issue. Sabean seems to feel that with a few bullpen tweaks, everything's going to be O.K.

"Offerman is a guy who can clearly still hit. His numbers don't indicate that this year." -Steve Lyons, FOX baseball announcer

by Minstrel on Dec 6, 2005 8:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Choker vs. snake-bit
Ha... that fits pretty well, doesn't it?
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Dec 6, 2005 8:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I want to play devil's advocate...
...and say that "giving LaTroy Hawkins to another team for free and applying that $4M to the solution..." was not really an option, in that no one out there wanted to pick up that contract. This may not be 100% true, however, and even if it is, it just makes the Williams trade look that much worse. So, I guess I'll give up trying to defend Sabean on this one. Never mind.

I'm such a sucker... I got excited when Sabean started talking about adding a righthanded reliever. The Giants already had plenty of guys who can get lefties out, and this would make it harder for Alou to justify changing pitchers five times in an inning. I should have realized that Sabean only wanted to sign a righty so he could trade another righty for a lefty in an unbalanced trade. What was it kenshin said? Oh yeah: <sigh>

"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Dec 6, 2005 9:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

ouch
I really think it's time to put Sabean out of his misery.  I'm not sure if he realizes Barry Bonds is like 68 years old, and he's simply totally blew the last couple of seasons for this team.

Seriously -- call Ned and see if he wants Sabean and Alfonzo for Jayson Werth and a front office intern to be named later.

by alon91 on Dec 6, 2005 9:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not If You Were the Last Junkball Pitcher on Earth
In this analogy, Mike Flanagan is the manager of the San Rafael Chili's, right? Or is it Peter Angelos? Just wanted to make sure.

So, we've exchanged a middling has-been of a relief pitcher, one who spends his off days hanging out at Borders, for a middling has-been of a relief pitcher who apparently will spend his off-days at the Punch Line.

To summarize:

Hawkins-Williams-Aardsma-Hawkins+Kline+Worrell+extra payroll+(Morris-extra payroll)=Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2004 St. Louis Cardinals! Meh. Brian Sabean has once again squeezed blood from the stone of mediocrity.

by Kitspool on Dec 6, 2005 10:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

PURF Genius
You guys aren't seeing the big picture - this is a feint within a feint.

Here is what will happen:

1.) The O's suck like we all know they will.
2.) As such, there is no pressure on Hawkins and he pitches like he did in Minnesota.
3.) His pending free agency puts him on the block.
4.) Desperate for "proven" relief help, Ned Coletti, our double secret agent in deep cover in LA, sends some of that prime, young LAD talent to Baltimore for Hawkins.
5.) Hawkins wilts in the heat of the pennant race, thus simultaneously handing the division to SF and hurting future LAD teams.

The Dodgers ARE evil.

by irwin on Dec 6, 2005 11:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That would be PURE genius
which, clearly I am not.
The Dodgers ARE evil.

by irwin on Dec 6, 2005 11:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get it
The Worrell-signing diary posts have gone ballistic - both in numbers and tone - and now Grant's joining in the fray. I don't know, I'm having a real hard time understanding why everyone's so all worked up about this trade.

I mean, what happened: We lost one heavy-duty quality LHR to free agency, so we acquire another (more on that later); in order to be able to do that (since a replacement wasn't available through free agency) we trade our RH set-up man; and in order to be able to do that we sign another FA RH set-up man to replace him. Nothing intrinsically flawed in the global scheme of things, seems to me. We had a strong bullpen - and still do. We had great depth and could withstand an injury or two - and still do. We were in position to give up one of the young relievers as part of a trade for a hitter - and still are.

Latroy Hawkins was one of the most unpopular players on the team. Not just among the ESPN-board-type hysterics, but here too. Partly, because trading Jerome for him was a stunner. Partly, because his performance in Chicago had been so poor. Partly, because his salary was so out of line with anything we'd been paying non-closers (and seemingly came at the expense of making other improvements in the team). But most importantly, because his performance with us was so uneven and unsettling. Sometimes dominant, sometimes horrible, always the sense that he'd totally lost his confidence and the dread that you didn't know which of the Hawkins you were getting that day.

Steve Kline was one of the best LH relievers out there for a while. Here's what ESPN wrote about him at the end of 2004: "One of baseball's most effective lefthanded relievers, Kline mixes a hard slider and a sinking fastball. He is not afraid to run deep counts rather than throwing something over the heart of the plate, and he can also get key double plays with his sinker... Before the injuries, Kline was a key reliever for the National League champions, allowing runs in only eight of his 67 outings and going the entire season without allowing an earned run at home".

There had been reports on the Giants interest in Kline for a couple of years. They had a chance to sign him a year ago, but let him get away. Perhaps because they seriously miscalculated where the reliever market was going (if I'm not mistaken, the $5.5/2yrs deal he signed with Baltimore is almost exactly what Worrell signed for with Philly a year earlier - and Sabean admitted last week that he'd made a huge mistake in not re-signing Worrell because of money). Or perhaps because they were worried (and rightly so) about the torn tendon in Kline's finger. But his second-half numbers last year, like Worrell's, were fine. And while my mention elsewhere of his 4-year history with Matheny was immediately greeted with ESPN-board-like scorn, I don't think its insignificant at all.

No one here thinks that we should have re-signed Eyre at $11m/3yrs (even assuming he would have agreed). The mistake with Eyre was not signing him to an extension a year earlier, when he would have agreed to two years for much less money. The mistake with Hawkins was acquiring him in the first place, particularly with a $4.35m salary looming in 2006. The mistake with Worrell was letting him get away after the 2003 season and thinking Herges could fill in if Nen didn't come back. Thats a lot of mistakes, for sure - but given where we were at the end of the 2005 season, with Eyre leaving and Hawkins as our top setup guy, putting Worrell and Kline in place instead of Eyre and Hawkins isn't bad at all. And cheaper, even if we covered the difference in salaries in the O's deal, because Worrell is much less expensive than Eyre (and I agree with Pants Man that its unlikely that just unloading Hawkins' salary was possible, plus the reduced depth would have made it riskier to use one of young relievers in a trade).

Will it work out? Who the hell knows. But it seems to me that getting Worrell and Kline instead of a Hawkins we didn't trust and an Eyre we couldn't (and shouldn't, at those numbers) have re-signed is pretty good. It certainly isn't anything worth tearing our hair out over.

The question is what happens elsewhere. If we don't sign Matt Morris or someone else for the front of the rotation, or if we don't trade for a hitter - that's when I'll be tearing my hair out. What's left of it, that is.

by FavoriteSpring on Dec 7, 2005 12:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Er...
Wrote so damn much, and only now I see that right at the top I wrote Worrell-signing instead of Kline-trade...

by FavoriteSpring on Dec 7, 2005 12:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I don't get it
Well, I would say the reason I am disappointed is for a few reasons you didn't mention.

1.) They didn't have to give up a draft pick AND give AZ a pick by signing Worrell early.

2.) Kline was NOT one of the best LH relievers - he was one of the best LOOGY's. [last few years he has been good against LH only, at one point he was quite versatile]. Plus, he would appear to be a jerk at first glance.

3.) Ahh, Taschner? He battled back from injuries that had him near retirement, pitched phenominally in AAA, pitched quite well in MLB, and now he is a longshot to make the 2006 roster? What message does that send to him? To the other rest of the Giant's farmhands?

4.) I think SF would have been better off eating Hawkins salary whole instead of getting Kline. Why? What happens if Kline sucks? Do you have any doubt that it would be August before a kid like Taschner, Burres, Threets, Reina, Coutlangous or Misch is given a shot? Paying that contract may suck the Giants into the sunk cost problem.

The Dodgers ARE evil.

by irwin on Dec 7, 2005 1:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I don't get it
  1. I call BS on ESPN's quote. Kline has had three effective seasons amongst six mediocre-to-bad ones. I blame Tony LaRussa's myth-making oratory skills and Bruce Jenkins and the like for putting too much stock in dirty caps.
  2. Yes, the Giants were overpaying for Hawkins, but at least they were overpaying for a quality pitcher. If they actually worked to get bargains at other positions, Hawk's salary wouldn't be an issue. It would be similar to how the Red Sox can afford Manny's outrageous salary even though no one is worth that much basically because they're ridiculously underpaying Papi. Together, they come out to about $28mil, or the going rate. From what I've read and recall, Hawkins was battling injuries last year that hadn't affected him before, which could account for his skyrocketing walk rate. His numbers from 2002-04 indicate that, when healthy, he's a fantastic short reliever, and though paying double digit millions on only two relievers is sketchy, HawkMando had the potential for being a lights out duo. Purely in terms of performance, a full season of HawkMando would easily improve upon EyreWalk.
  3. With Worrell and Kline versus Hawkins and whomever, we possibly get cheaper (God knows Sabean might sign Jeff Nelson for 3mil) at the cost of getting significantly older. Not only that, where I see these moves departing from Classic Sabes is that I think we actually have a better idea of what Hawk will do next year as opposed to Worrell or Kline. In the past, Sabean chose certainty (Tucker) over ceiling (Linden). I mean, in the one situation when it seemed like he SHOULD go with "supposed certainty", he ditched the principle in favor of "veteran savvy". And then on top of THAT, there's the dreaded Buy High Sell Low silliness. Why not keep Hawk around and try to leverage him at the deadline if we don't need him?
  4. The move reeks of "We need a Capital L Lefty!" or "We need to make A Move!"

by David Arnott on Dec 7, 2005 2:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I don't get it
I'm afraid that I'm in strong agreement with the sentiment expressed above that this board is in heavy need of a dose of Vagisil.  The Williams trade, an epic exercise in stupidity has absolutely nothing to do with exchanging Hawkins for Kline. We did not trade Williams for Kline we traded Hawkins for Kline.  Using LOOGY as an epithet is downright silly, when Felipe uses half the pen this way and when Hawkins himself is a ROOGY- well actually he isn't truly a ROOGY because that implies that Hawkins actually gets someone out in a pressure situation. Hawkins was not a quality pitcher for us, he was a jekyl and hyde gas can, and any defense of him as being of value must start with an acknowledgement of this. I like Jack Taschner just fine, but even as one of the primary boosters of the kids I find the serendipitous opinion that we can go into the season totally reliant on him to be mind boggling. Finally, all this hand wringing over this not addressing every last freaking need of the team is just glib nonsense, particularly when a yeast infection is going to break out over every other move that's made, from signing Morris to rule 5 pick ups.

by prospecthound on Dec 7, 2005 6:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We had rule 5 pick ups?!!!?!
WHAT THE #(@*@#()
"Medio-core, not forsaken/ the [team] we're make'n/ will leave you with the feeling of indifference"

by kenshin1 on Dec 7, 2005 6:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I don't get it
Good call, prospect hound. The only thing that disappoints me about this move is this: When we traded for LaTroy, it looked like a disaster from day one, because we knew he'd be an overpaid reliever that we were stuck w/ for 2006. Then everybody got high and started making passes at their brother's wife's relievers, and all of a sudden Hawkins at $4.5 looked moveable, looked like we could dump some cash and take advantage of our bargain bullpen. We didn't do that -- we just took on the same money in Kline. I'm just disappointed that out of all this we're still basically paying $16 million for a bullpen when we could probably get by at about $12.
Saving countless runs with my defense

by lyricalkiller on Dec 7, 2005 7:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I don't get it
Because simply put, as I tried to demonstrate in the diary, Kline isn't close to the reliever that Hawkins is - and never has been. My god, his best K/BB ratio over the last 4 years isn't as good as Hawkins' worst! He's a product of a A St.Louis defense, which was exposed brutally last year. As a talent for talent deal- its absolutely awful. No one is discussing Kline-Jerome Williams - we are saying that Kline to Hawkins is simply stupid if you aren't saving the salary.

by Aadik on Dec 7, 2005 7:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I don't get it
  1.  Hawkins is better than Kline - Giants get worse
  2.  We have a number of arms that might be good enough in the bullpen for the league  minimum who are now blocked
  3.  We didn't save much money (~800K is my guess, their difference in salaries)
  4.  This team has other needs that trading Hawkins could have addressed
  5.  Now Felipe will have all the lefties and righties he needs to screw with the bullpen
I don't really see much in the way of positives here.

by Nick Schulte on Dec 7, 2005 8:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I don't get it
Don't forget we sent Cash too, so the salaries aren't different.
So who's ready to commit Sabeanocide?

by WalrusMan on Dec 7, 2005 8:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't very clear
I haven't seen exactly how much cash we're sending, but Hawkins is slated to make $4.4M plus incentives next year and Kline $3.0M.  If we even out those salaries it's $3.7M each, plus Hawkins' incentives, which I hope we don't have to pay.  So we save $700K plus incentives.  About $800K-$850K if Hawkins isn't a closer, which he wouldn't have been for us.  

If we do have to pay half of Hawkins incentives now, then that's just plain stupid, especially because he'll get a lot more as the Orioles closer.

by Nick Schulte on Dec 7, 2005 9:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: But Kline is *left-handed*! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
I vote for Steve Kline's Official MCC Nickname to be Buffalo Wing.

by David Arnott on Dec 7, 2005 2:16 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: But Kline is *left-handed*! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
I'm in on it.
So who's ready to commit Sabeanocide?

by WalrusMan on Dec 7, 2005 8:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: But Kline is *left-handed*! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
DO IT NOW!  THERE'S NO TIME!!

Sincerely,

Jack Bauer

by Skaldheim on Dec 7, 2005 8:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: But Kline is *left-handed*!
In related news, the USS Caine will be docked in McCovey Cove next season. Wax statues of Jose Ferrar and Humphrey Bogart will be on loan from the Wax Museum as part of the season long celebration of Barry's last year in a Giant uniform. The USS Caine will be renamed the USS Bonds.  One lucky fan will be chosen at random before each game next season.  The lucky fan will have 5 minutes to find a "stolen bowl" of strawberries hidden in the refrigrator in the Officer's Mess.  If the fan succeeds, Captain Felipe is not allowed to carry his two steal ball bearings, nor make more than 2 pitching changes during the course of the game.  If the fan fails to discover the missing strawberries, Bonds gets to pencil himself out of the lineup, and the team gets to mutiny at anytime after the 4th pitching change or the bottom of the 1st inning, whichever comes first; or upon entrance to the game of any pitcher for whom such appearance will be his 45th of the week.

The smoking lamp is lighted

That is all

i porked my username, but wtfgas anyway?

by E Ticket on Dec 7, 2005 9:32 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Grant, I think I love you
A manly love, one man for another, a dude's love. Seriously, that was gold.

by Marc Normandin on Dec 7, 2005 11:31 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

If only....
...there were a sabermetric way to express just how uncomfortable that makes me. Squirms Over Replacement, or something.

by Grant on Dec 7, 2005 4:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: If only....
glad to see it had the desired effect

by Marc Normandin on Dec 13, 2005 11:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: But Kline is *left-handed*! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
I just don't think this is a big deal.  We traded Eyre and Hawkins for Kline and Worrell, and saved $1-2M.  It's a relatively minor switch.

I think the reason people are going ballistic is they see the Marlins' fire sale and the Thome dump passing them by, and want to get in on it.

Jury's still out on this winter -- if we get Morris and Wells and a decent lefty bat (sigh...probably Daryle Ward), it will be an ok winter.

However, the ugly truth is that teams are upping their budgets because they are making more profits.  If we're staying the same, we're losing ground.

Just one time before I die

by Katman on Dec 7, 2005 3:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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