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Quickly, on this slow news day....

Doug at Westwood Blues has a good article about Will Clark and the Hall of Fame up at his site. I can't figure out how to link just to that specific post, so you'll have to scroll down to the post from December 18th. His non-Will stuff is usually unintelligible nonsense, so scroll quickly. Once you get there, though, you'll find an entry that'll make you think, and some more fine links about Will's shot at the Hall. (Of course, I'm kidding with the above dig on Doug's writing. His nonsense is usually quite understandable.)(See, there I go again. I kid because I care.)

Keeping with the memorabilia theme from yesterday, I offer an almost-relevant anecdote. I sent Will Clark a self-addressed, stamped postcard back in 1986. It was a postcard with a portrait of Will on the front, with the idea being he would sign it and drop it in the mail. Sure enough, the postcard came just a couple of weeks later, with a personalized autograph...and the postmark stamped right on his face.

Looking back, it had to have been a Dodger fan working at the post office. The postmarks on postcards are almost always stamped on the side without a picture, and the postmark was centered a bit too perfectly over his face. So, bravo, Mr. or Mrs. Dodger Fan. You got me. If there is anything resembling justice in this world, the drifter I stabbed in a knife fight outside of a Barstow tavern was your son.

Comment starter: What's your favorite piece of Giants memorabilia/merchandise? I love my Smokey the Bear/cartoon Atlee Hammaker poster, but nothing can top my bobblehead with Charlie Brown in a Giants uniform.

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Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
Somewhere in my manse, I possess a photograph of Will Clark with my buddy taken on Photo Day in 1986 or 1987.  That photo can still make me sentimental about what Will Clark represented to the franchise during that era.  He was the symbol of hope for the future.  I also have a Will Clark beer mug somewhere, which is appropriate seeing as it is his favorite beverage.  

by out machine on Dec 28, 2005 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
Grant, many thanks for the link.  

Here is the permalink for that post.

pitchers and catchers report February 17th!

by Fog City Blues on Dec 28, 2005 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
Put your cursor over the time stamp ("Posted x:xx PM") and you should see the link.
pitchers and catchers report February 17th!

by Fog City Blues on Dec 28, 2005 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
Bah. I should have figured that out on my own. Thanks.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 28, 2005 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

lol....
I never associated you with Westwood blues... Almost as suprising a revelation as my recent discovery that I went to high school with Maroon 5 (seriously)
Whatever happened to that girl I knew, she was just like you- but was way more into me

by kenshin1 on Dec 28, 2005 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
I have a full-sized autographed cardboard cut-out of The Thrill. My wife's wonderful great aunt gave it to me. My prized possession, really.

During the season-ending Dodger series in '04, I drove around town with it in the passenger seat. Only three honks, but lots of puzzling looks.

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by tomzilla on Dec 28, 2005 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
Bless Will Clark -- he also signed my only Will Clark rookie card, which I sent to him w/ a SASE and then waited w/ incredible concern until it returned. (Worth $5 in mint, Beckett kept telling me.)

My favorite, though, is my William Van Landingham, 1994 Fleer, autographed. I had 9 of 'em, enough to fill a page in a book, and the center one was returned to me signed upon my request. Good man, that guy, and supposedly good taste in music, too.

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by lyricalkiller on Dec 28, 2005 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
I have two favorites.  One being the Chevron promotional Bay Bridge series poster from 89 with the giants guy and the A's guy stepping across the bay to face off.  Every kid that grew up in the bay area in the 80's remembers those.  The second is an old school Giants pennant from who knows (late 70's or early 80's) - by itself it doesn't sound too exciting but it's interesting because San Francisco is spelled "San Francsco"   Who knows, maybe it's even worth something.  Oh, I also still have two of the KNBR promo orange signs that say "Humm" on one side and "Baby" on the other.

by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2005 3:12 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
Oh Yeah! The Bay Bridge poster. Good times.
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by lyricalkiller on Dec 28, 2005 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
Dude that's hilarious.  I'd never known how common those posters were in 1989, but I assure you that no other kids outside of Portland, Oregon had one.  My dad worked for Chevron and got me one and had it framed.  I loved that thing.  I also have an old school poster that's got about ten holes at each of the three different points where I pushed the "push-pins" into my bedroom wall.  Recently though, I'm partial to my MLB.com-bought "San Francisco Giants Ave." street sign.

by Kent @ McCovey Chronicles on Dec 28, 2005 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
My mom found me one at a garage sale, already framed. Still have it....

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 28, 2005 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
I still have those KNBR "HUMM BABY" placards (from the 87 playoffs as I recall).
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f***ing amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Dec 28, 2005 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
My favorite is the baseball my then 12 year-old daughter gave me a couple of years ago for Christmas with the carefully forged Barry Bonds signature. She did an unnervingly good job.  

by NearestNorwich on Dec 28, 2005 3:45 PM PST reply actions  

That is awesome.
I hope you gave her a raise in her allowance.

by olympicjosh on Dec 28, 2005 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: That is awesome.
and hide the checkbook
The Dodgers ARE evil.

by irwin on Dec 28, 2005 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

lol...
I could barely write block text at 12, let alone cursive.
Whatever happened to that girl I knew, she was just like you- but was way more into me

by kenshin1 on Dec 28, 2005 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Awwww
already training to be a doctor at 12...so darling.
The Dodgers ARE evil.

by irwin on Dec 28, 2005 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: lol...
Fortunately, as a doctor you won't need either skill, Kenshin...

by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Dec 29, 2005 6:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Chili
I still have my Chili Davis folder (like this one of the great Dan Plesac) from 1988.

Damn... I was 18 in 1988.  This would be much more charming if I was 8 or 9...

"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Dec 28, 2005 4:00 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Chili
I never predicted a Plesac reference on this site.  I love that Plesac was the face of the franchise.  

by out machine on Dec 28, 2005 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
I have an old "K" that was signed by Kelly Downs. My sister and her friends set up a K corner and after the game waited by the player's parking lot for someone -- anyone -- to give an autograph. K. Downs had a career high in strikeouts that night, so he stopped and signed all the Ks in exchange for them giving him one. I was so psyched I sent him a card with an SASE (which Beckett assured me was worth no less than a penny) and he sent it back signed.
This probably doesn't count, but last year I went to visit my girlfriend's parents in Phoenix. Her dad has awesomes seats to the Dbacks and the family took me to see a game. Anyway, I saw Lowry win in dramatic fashion (he got out of a bases loaded jam; Winn hit two homers) but the next afternoon, when I didn't go, M. Cain scored his first career victory. I have the unused tickets saved and I was thinking maybe one day I'd try to get Cain to sign one -- and as payment will offer him the other for his stash.

by SFfaninNYC on Dec 28, 2005 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
My least favorite item is a pair of those horrible cheap foam orange stick things from the 2003 playoff game featuring the total meltdown of both Ponson and Cruz Jr.  I should probably burn them or something.

by Lorrimer on Dec 28, 2005 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

Speaking of Least Favorite Items ...
I still have two sets of ThunderStix® from the 2002 playoffs.

By the way, how embarrased should we all be that the homepage for thunderstix.com features a picture of a Giants game.

pitchers and catchers report February 17th!

by Fog City Blues on Dec 28, 2005 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
When I was a kid I loved my McCovey sweatshirt that had a picture of his rookie card on the front and the back of his 81 fleer card on the back.  I'd still wear it if I hadn't outgrown it when I was ten.

by keithr on Dec 28, 2005 7:20 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
Any of those folks who point at statheads and say "you don't even like baseball, you just like spreadsheets" need only look at this thread. Big shoutout to baseball.
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by lyricalkiller on Dec 28, 2005 8:33 PM PST reply actions  

G's Merchandise
You know how the Giants Dugout stores sell copies of the all-black, polyester, early-80s jerseys with orange cursive "Giants" on the front? Well, my dad has one he bought Back In The Day(tm), circa 1982. About five years ago, I stole it from him. Stole may be too harsh a term, since he ultimately gave the theft his blessing, but in any event it's mine, now. I brought it with me to college in New York. I wore it when I saw the Giants face Roger Clemens in Yankee Stadium. It's my shirt of choice when I go to Giants games. I don't think anyone else notices that it's not a recent throwback, and was in fact purchased when the Giants were actually wearing the thing, but that's okay. Because I know.

by David A. Arnott on Dec 28, 2005 8:33 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
How about a little shout out for the Croix de Candlestick?

by Exiled in Brooklyn on Dec 28, 2005 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
I still have mine from the last night game at the 'Stick (9/29/99). Which is hilarious, because it was 70 degrees with no wind that evening, and the game didn't go into extra innings. But still a nice memory.

by Kitspool on Dec 28, 2005 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
My favorite little piece of Baseball history is my ticket to the earthquake game of the 1989 Series. I suppose it could have been my least favorite, but my wife and I took our two kids to the game (they sat on our laps in our upper deck seats) and all four of us were ok after the quake hit. My three year old thought a monster was under the stadium and shook it. Anyway, my ex has her ticket and I have mine as evidence of a once in a lifetime experience.

by Sayhey on Dec 28, 2005 10:17 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
I like my "Giants Blvd" metal sign above my door, and a couple assorted signs they handed out at the first Fiesta Gigantes. A crazy half-monkey half-octopus stuffed Lou Seal is hanging off my lamp.

One of my absolute favorites though- an old copy of "Comeback" (the Dave Dravecky biography) and a free t-shirt from my first game at the 'stick as a kid (complete with ketchup and mustard stains from a dropped hot dog).

by ironchefcurry on Dec 29, 2005 3:39 AM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
that was a GREAT book. I think the Giants fan version of the moonwalk would have to be Dravecky's comeback start -- a weekday afternoon game against the Reds no less, right?
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by lyricalkiller on Dec 29, 2005 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
crud...moon landing, that is, not moonwalk. The Giants version of the moonwalk would probably be the jig Glenallen Hill always seemed to be doing when he was tracking flyballs in the wind/sun.
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by lyricalkiller on Dec 29, 2005 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Tito Fuentes ...
I have a golf tee signed by Tito Fuentes. He came to St. Brendan's and taught us how to bunt ... yep, right up there by Twin Peaks!

Years later, I was playing in a celeb golf tourney ... Tito is there ... over a beer, I re-told the bunting story ... and low and behold, he pulls a tee out of his "fro", signs it, and gives it to me.

Hmmmmmm, don't hear of too many ballplayers heading to a grammar school to show kids how to bunt these days.

Thanks Tito! Drag bunt from the left side .........

by hnlkenny on Dec 29, 2005 8:13 AM PST reply actions  

Re: Tito Fuentes ...
How does one autograph a friggin' golf tee.  That sounds only slightly less difficult than writing the lord's prayer on a grain of rice.
www.waitingfortbg.com (under contstruction)

by Goofus on Dec 29, 2005 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
My favorite is a ticket stub from the Brian Johnson Game (which is really the Rod Beck Game, IMHO) from 1997. Still had it in my pocket when I went to Vegas a couple of weeks later and kicked butt, cementing its status as Infinitely Lucky Item. So I had it laminated at Kinko's. Of course the dumbass there laminated the wrong side of the ticket, so it's saved for all eternity, just mostly charred and unreadable.

Peter Baum

I got one word for you: "youneverknow"

by senorvegas on Dec 29, 2005 8:45 AM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
Ouch. I would stick said Kinko's employee is in laminator upside-down, methinks.
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by tomzilla on Dec 29, 2005 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
I don't know if this counts, but I bought a Neifi Perez game used bat on e-bay.  The dang thing is cracked, which might explain why he can't hit.

by zenbitz on Dec 31, 2005 4:10 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Quickly, on this slow news day....
A Pacific Sock Exchange poster featureing Clark and Mitchell looking...um...shall we say BADASS!?!

by Kid Fu on Jan 1, 2006 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

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