My heart is like a Lionel Richie song right now
I have no idea what the Angels want with Edgardo Alfonzo, but they're welcome to him. There was never a way to get rid of the lump without taking on another contract, and usually the ideas were just as reprehensible as Fonzie. Eric Milton. Kaz Matsui. Yick and yick.
Steve Finley actually fills a need for this team. In an outfield with two old 'n' brittles, a fourth outfielder who can play centerfield is going to get a lot of playing time. He had an awful, putrid season in 2005, and isn't likely to get better. But what if he does? The good Finley is only a year removed from the wreck the Angels saw. The Giants aren't counting on Finley to be their clean-up hitter; they're counting on him to be vintage Armando Rios. And if he falls on his face, oh well. It was a good try.
At the end of April, I came up with marginally funny joke. When Alfonzo hit his next solo home run, I was planning to comment with a Jabba the Hutt quote in the gameday thread: "Manchy kabook noonee Solo!" See? Jabba the Hutt's fat, and Alfonzo is kinda fat. D'ya get it? After you wipe the tears from your eyes, the rest of the post will be waiting for you.
But Alfonzo NEVER HOMERED AGAIN. The offensive nothingness he closed the last five months of his Giant career with was amazing. It was one of the most complete collapses in recent history. It was Ron Burgundy finally agreeing to eat the cat poop, chomping on it, knowing that the elevator of his career had reached the basement. It was five months of eating cat feces, all spread out over summer months, all broadcast over television and radio. Also, Alfonzo did not have a good season.
There is a worry that Steve Finley, who is bound by the laws of physics to only hurt the Giants, will use this opportunity to give us the ultimate sendoff. Maybe he's in his lair right now, feeding live bunnies to his pet boa constrictor ("Wrangles"), and wondering just how he can top Jose Cruz Jr.'s artistry. Yeah, that's a concern, but I can live with it. The only way Finley could top Alfonzo's damage to this organization is with a roofie, a burlap sack, and a trip to the coast with Matt Cain. Finley's reputation as a Giant killer can't extend that far, can it? Can it? Hold me....
Another concern I almost had was related to Alfonzo's performance. As in, what if Alfonzo had a good season for the Angels? Would I be able to sleep with that much injustice in the world? That concern was short-lived. Alfonzo is done. Worrying about something like that is like worrying about Maury Wills taking advantage of Jason Schmidt's slow delivery.
This is a great move for the Giants, even if Finley does his best Ricky Ledee impersonation. Finley turned down a three-year deal from the Giants to go with the Angels. Now he's on the Giants, he doesn't get that expensive third year, he didn't harm the team with last year's performance, and we were able to dump an overpriced saddle sore in the process. The fates threw us a bone on this one, and it really doesn't matter if there is any marrow left.
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Secret weapon
Nice to see the G-Men haven't given up on the 40+ theory of roster development.
by leewhee on Dec 21, 2005 6:08 PM PST reply actions
Yay team
Finley as a fourth outfielder sounds real good.
To paraphrase what others have said on this site: It's like going to bed with Jack White and waking up with Meg White.
Indeed...
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Seriously, a good trade from the Giants point-of-view. While the money is a wash, the power upgrade and legit centerfield defense that Finley brings is a big bonus to the Giants. Does open up the back up infielder position. Is Richie still available? I'd like to see Aurilia and Olivo signed to the backup positions Sabean talks about in the article. That would leave just the hole in the starting rotation. Perform some more magic, Brian?
Aurilia
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Both sides win
Both teams have recent suckage from these players that is too painful to remember. From my POV, the Alfonso suckage has a longer track record and I have some hope that Finley can outperform last year.
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They're dancin in the street /
All night long (All night)
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Are you feeling down and lonely
Feeling Like you can't go on....
just rememer Love Will Find A Way!
Or in EdLardo's case
Let Your FAT ASS SHOW YOU THE WAY
by E Ticket on Dec 21, 2005 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
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This is easily my favorite move of the offseason. Damn. I'm buying Sabean a drink if I ever meet him.
!!!!J!J!J!J!J!!!
This is easily my favorite move of the offseason. Damn. I'm buying Sabean a drink if I ever meet him.
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The Baseball Cods have smiled upon us this xmas!
by E Ticket on Dec 21, 2005 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
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Plus, given its Finley, he's going to end up hitting .000 just to continue cursing the Giants.
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by E Ticket on Dec 21, 2005 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
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by E Ticket on Dec 21, 2005 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
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Carry on.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 21, 2005 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
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by E Ticket on Dec 21, 2005 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
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I'm pretty sure Finley is done
But the worst part is I think it might have been better to just cut Alfonzo and not have to play Finley at all.
by Nick Schulte on Dec 21, 2005 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
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by E Ticket on Dec 21, 2005 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
I think you're right again, Nick.
6 to 1, half a dozen to another, whether Finley for Alfatso is better than cutting Egleado and going with a cheap sub.
by GiantJim on Dec 22, 2005 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
The White Whale!
This is just like those holiday movies -- everything looks dim just before Christmas ("Sorry Timmy, but daddy can't afford to get you a lefthand-hitting 4th outfielder with power this year"). But then, from out of nowhere, Santa Stoneman brings us the gift we wanted.
It's just like that saying goes, "Every time a fat, overpaid, underachieving sack of shit is traded for a useful commodity, an angel gets its' wings."
And if you're happy, just think how Sabean feels. Finley has eluded him for so long. It's gotta be sweet for him right now, to get rid of one problem for a guy he loves. Besides, if Sabes had gotten his way last year, we'd be paying BOTH OF THEM right now, and probably have no Alou.
by Josh from Hollywood on Dec 21, 2005 6:47 PM PST reply actions
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by prospecthound on Dec 21, 2005 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
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by prospecthound on Dec 21, 2005 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
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It's a Festivus Miracle!
You're calling him a useful commodity, well I just think all he does is push either Linden, Ellison, or Ortmeier back into the minors.
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Is this a bad thing. I look at as a two birds with one stone if its magellan. he needs to be brat-slapped like the little spoiled frat-rat that he is
by E Ticket on Dec 21, 2005 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
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Finley .222/.271.374
Ellison .264.316/.361
Linden .216/.280/.333
Ortmeier .136/.269/.136
While Ortimeier's is a small sample size, I think he needs more minor league work, while Linden and Ellison won't learn any more down there. And Ellison is my clear choice between the two for defensive purposes alone, but also seems to be a benifit in the hitting department compared to Linden.
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by E Ticket on Dec 21, 2005 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
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Yeah... like maybe Dr. Ruth.
by E Ticket on Dec 21, 2005 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
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by keithr on Dec 21, 2005 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
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by ElkoGiantsFan on Dec 21, 2005 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
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Agreed
All four veteran outfielders will be free agents after this season... I pray that we can pencil Linden into one starting outfield spot so that we'll only have to overpay free agents for two spots.
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Meow
Nice doing business with you; we can all be rid of our disappointments, then shrug when our new players underperform, since, hey, better than the guy we traded away.
Back to the cat poop...
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(Doesn't work with Firefox, unforutnately....)
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 21, 2005 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
Angel fan reaction
"Frosty the No-Man: STEVE FINLEY has been traded
By Rev Halofan
Posted on Wed Dec 21, 2005 at 09:43:27 PM EST
It is official and every fan of the team can cheer on this move.
Arrogant Piece of Trash- I mean Centerfielder Steve "Frosty" Finley has been traded to the San Francisco Giants for infielder Edgardo Alfonzo. Alfonzo is making $6 million in 2006, and is owed a $1 million installment of his initial signing bonus on January 31.
Finley will make $7 million in 2006, but if he makes 600 Plate Appearances in 2006, his $1 million buyout turns into another year at $7 million.
Thanks for pushing the eject button, Bill Stoneman. You might've saved Arte $7 million 2007 dollars.
The worst case scenario is that Robb Quinlan gets squeezed when management feels they oughtta play the salary-sapping Alfonzo more often.
The best case scenario is that if Alfonzo has any bounceback at all, he is platooning with McPherson by May."
by Exiled in Brooklyn on Dec 21, 2005 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
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And so will we.....
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errrrrrrrr. Wrong Answer. Worst case scenario is everytime fatass comes to the plate with runners in scoring position. Second worse case scenario is when he comes up with runner on first and less than two outs. Third worse case scenario...any other time he comes to the plate.
"The best case scenario is that if Alfonzo has any bounceback at all, he is platooning with McPherson by May."
errrrrrr. Wrongo again monkey spanker. Best Case Scenario is if he gets lost on the San Diego Fwy and ends up in Tiajuana gorging himself to death on tamale pies and tequilla shooters with ice-cream floats
by E Ticket on Dec 21, 2005 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
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by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Dec 22, 2005 5:51 AM PST up reply actions
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It would be surprising if Finley went from a prime production year to garbage in one year's time, 40 years old or not. But it would be absolutely astounding if Alfonzo bounced back from essentially a five year slump which is progressingly getting worse.
by Josh from Hollywood on Dec 21, 2005 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
The more I think about
Hey we traded ElLardo. :)
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That is due to severe vision impairment caused by addictive monkey-spanking. However the FDA just approved a Rx that will restore vision for serial monkey-spanker. It comes with a warning:
Caution: Continued use of this medication will restore vision. The Bad News is that when sight is restored you will see a fat fucking lump of shit at 3B. This will cause your team to be a bunch of suck-ass losers AND create serious erectile dysfunction.
by E Ticket on Dec 21, 2005 7:18 PM PST reply actions
I'm turning 36 on Thursday...
It matters not if Finley sucks or curses our ballpark. It matters only that he has a pulse.
I will now mold a clay bust of Brian Sabean while singing "Hello".
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Sir/Madam, I fell out of my chair upon reading this:)
by David A. Arnott on Dec 21, 2005 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
Ha!
Yes, at this point I have stronger opinions about the "Hello" video than I do about this trade. I didn't want to look at Alfonzo anymore and I don't have much hope for Ellison, but I don't know how you can sugarcoat .222/.271/.374 at age 40.
Maybe this is that one case of a brutal season at age 40 that in no way marks the end of a productive career. And I guess there's nothing to lose but a million dollar buyout next year. This trade was probably the best Sabean could do with Alfonzo, so fair play to him.
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Anyone else see this quote from Sabean?
Moises can also play other positions? What other positions? I can think of one -- LF. I've always thought the Alou at first base idea was pretty foolish and wouldn't be considered, but this sounded like maybe Sabean was considering it.
by Josh from Hollywood on Dec 21, 2005 8:46 PM PST reply actions
Where's the power?????
167 PA
147 AB
37 hits
4 doubles
1 triple
ZERO HR!
11 RBI
.293 slugging (ouch!!!)
All stats for Finley at King and 3rd. Maybe there has been a reason for not wanting to play for the Giants.
Nice Surprise
As far as Anaheim's side of the deal, I don't fully understand their excitement, outside of getting rid of a miserable dissapointment. Alfonso brings nothing of value to their team. They thought highly enough of McPherson to let Glaus and his oft-injured big bat leave town, albiet for a ridiculous contract. Fatso does nothing but provide a lump of lard to draw from when cooking up a little bacon for the pregame meal...and you guys thought he had no value.
Almost forgot to mention the Ron Burgundy quote in the post, obviously inspired by my sig. Good looking out Grant.
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by Grant Brisbee on Dec 21, 2005 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
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by W8ingForATitle on Dec 21, 2005 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
Disconcerting Thought
What if Sabean decides to make this move: now that he "has" a CF and (apparently) negotiations to sign Winn to a long-term contract is not going anywhere, he decides to trade Winn to another team for a starting pitcher or lefty power? I guess it depends on which player we get but given how dissatisfied we have been with recent trades, needless to say, I'm a bit worried about this scenario.
Am I being silly? Maybe someone can just tell me off and say "Don't be ridiculous, cousin Larry" and I'll feel better, but I have this pit in my stomach telling me that this might happen.
by Martin BiasedGiantsFanatic on Dec 21, 2005 10:37 PM PST reply actions
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And by the way....it's "I don't want to spoil the party so I'll go, I would hate my dissapointment to show." Get your 40 year old music right! (Coming from an 18 year old, that should be an insult.)
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I'd be lying but what if? :^)
Eh, I've given up trying to keep up with young whippersnapper's memories since my younger brother, by only 5 years, who watched the same Star Trek shows I watched, could quote lines from each show and know the title of each one as well.
But yes, not only is it an insult but I'm ashamed since I'm a big Beatles fan. Well, I buy a lot of Beatles paraphrenalia, like t-shirts at Target, plus all their albums and books but it's not like I'm obsessed or anything. :^D
And, in the end, the love you take, is equal to the looove, you make...
by Martin BiasedGiantsFanatic on Dec 23, 2005 3:34 AM PST up reply actions
Rejoice
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Plus, as Nick astutely noted, the Giants save $1M on 2006 payroll because the buyout happens after the season, so the Giants now have an extra mil to spend on players.
by Martin BiasedGiantsFanatic on Dec 22, 2005 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
More grit
Is there any chance Finley actually gets 600 plate appearances and kicks in his third year guarantee?
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And it's true that all that happens is the club option turns into a mutual option, meaning the worst that can happen is that we want him back and he rejects us.

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